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Unison Now a Crashmeister

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First post2015-05-05 20:42 -0700
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  Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-05 20:42 -0700
    Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-05-05 23:36 -0500
    Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-05-06 00:48 -0400
      Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister android <here@there.was> - 2015-05-06 06:59 +0200
      Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-05 22:23 -0700
        Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-05-06 06:57 -0400
    Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister billy@MIX.COM - 2015-05-06 10:56 +0000
      Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-06 10:42 -0700
        Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister android <here@there.was> - 2015-05-06 20:16 +0200
        Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-06 15:44 -0700
          Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister android <here@there.was> - 2015-05-07 04:58 +0200
    Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2015-05-06 14:06 -0500
      Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-06 15:46 -0700
        Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2015-05-06 22:07 -0500
          Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-06 21:19 -0700
    Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-07 08:36 -0400
      Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-07 07:25 -0700
        Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-07 09:31 -0700
          Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-07 12:51 -0400
          Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-07 10:50 -0700
      Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister billy@MIX.COM - 2015-05-07 16:42 +0000
        Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-07 12:51 -0400
        Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-07 10:51 -0700
        Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-08 08:49 -0700
          Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-08 13:22 -0400
          Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-09 12:24 -0700
          Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister Bogus - 2015-05-09 12:23 -0700
            Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-05-10 12:13 -0700
              Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-10 13:20 -0700
                Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2015-05-10 19:36 -0500
                  Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-11 09:31 -0700
                    Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-11 13:26 -0400
          Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-11 17:47 -0700
            Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-17 09:43 -0700
              Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-05-17 19:05 -0700
                Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-18 08:02 -0700
    Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-24 09:49 -0700
      Re: Unison Now a Crashmeister gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-08 08:53 -0700

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#75003

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2015-05-07 16:42 +0000
Message-ID<mig4l4$5mr$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#74996
Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> writes:

> 2. Clear the cache (~/Library/Caches/Unison[ 2])

I have ~/Library/Caches/com.panic.Unison2/

There is also ~/Library/Application Support/com.panic.Unison2/

> 3. There is no "Preferences" folder for Unison that I can find.

~/Library/Preferences/com.painc.Unison2.plist

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#75004

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2015-05-07 12:51 -0400
Message-ID<D4qdnYHLaN-QBdbInZ2dnUU7-I2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#75003
On 2015-05-07 12:42, billy@MIX.COM wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> writes:
>
>> 2. Clear the cache (~/Library/Caches/Unison[ 2])
>
> I have ~/Library/Caches/com.panic.Unison2/
>
> There is also ~/Library/Application Support/com.panic.Unison2/
>
>> 3. There is no "Preferences" folder for Unison that I can find.
>
> ~/Library/Preferences/com.painc.Unison2.plist

Doh!

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#75009

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2015-05-07 10:51 -0700
Message-ID<2015050710513728563-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#75003
On 2015-05-07 16:42:12 +0000, billy@MIX.COM said:

> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> writes:
> 
>> 2. Clear the cache (~/Library/Caches/Unison[ 2])
> 
> I have ~/Library/Caches/com.panic.Unison2/
> 
> There is also ~/Library/Application Support/com.panic.Unison2/
> 
>> 3. There is no "Preferences" folder for Unison that I can find.
> 
> ~/Library/Preferences/com.painc.Unison2.plist
> 
> Billy Y..

Oh good.  There now in line for a thrashing...

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#75144

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2015-05-08 08:49 -0700
Message-ID<2015050808493957112-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#75003
I've deleted the following in this order, run the program a few times, 
producing crashes and then moved on:

1) subdir: ~/Library/Caches/Unison 2/

2) subdir: ~/Library/Caches/com.panic.Unison2/

3) files: ~/Library/Preferences/com.panic.Unison2.plist cousins

	There were 3 or 4 files like the one above except they have random 
letters after plist (e.g. ".eZr9xl" and the like), including one with a 
lockfile extension.  Killed all of them.

4) ~/Library/Preferences/com.panic.Unison2.plist

That's where I am now.  I have yet to start meddling with this one or 
its contents:

5) ~/Library/Application Support/com.panic.Unison2/


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#75150

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2015-05-08 13:22 -0400
Message-ID<UpqdnX5pmdpbbdHInZ2dnUU7-b-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#75144
On 2015-05-08 11:49, gtr wrote:
> I've deleted the following in this order, run the program a few times,
> producing crashes and then moved on:
>
> 1) subdir: ~/Library/Caches/Unison 2/
>
> 2) subdir: ~/Library/Caches/com.panic.Unison2/
>
> 3) files: ~/Library/Preferences/com.panic.Unison2.plist cousins
>
>      There were 3 or 4 files like the one above except they have random
> letters after plist (e.g. ".eZr9xl" and the like), including one with a
> lockfile extension.  Killed all of them.
>
> 4) ~/Library/Preferences/com.panic.Unison2.plist
>
> That's where I am now.  I have yet to start meddling with this one or
> its contents:
>
> 5) ~/Library/Application Support/com.panic.Unison2/

No issue with 5.  I just erased everything and cleared the trash. 
Re-started with no issues.

Repeat the entire process without re-starting the app between steps.

Re-install the s/w if you can.

(I just did all of them.  Didn't lose the settings or the group list 
either ... can't find where they're buried offhand).

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#75220

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2015-05-09 12:24 -0700
Message-ID<2015050912243957084-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#75144
On 2015-05-09 19:23:32 +0000, Bogus said:

> Current Status:

Yeah, that was me, I had to reset my "who am I" status as well, as many 
other things I imagine.

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#75223

FromBogus
Date2015-05-09 12:23 -0700
Message-ID<2015050912233229546-@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#75144
Current Status:

Deleted the following in this order:

1) ~/Library/Caches/Unison 2/

2) ~/Library/Caches/com.panic.Unison2/

3) ~/Library/Preferences/com.panic.Unison2.plist cousins

	There are also 3 or 4 files like the one above except they have random 
letters after plist, including one named ...plist.lockfile.

4) ~/Library/Preferences/com.panic.Unison2.plist

4a) Just found this one:
	~/Library/Application Support/Unison_2
	~/Library/Application Support/Unison (roadrunner)

5) ~/Library/Application Support/com.panic.Unison2/
	Went in here and deleted all .db files.  Restarted Unison2 and 
hand-entered my preferred 4-5 newsgroups.

Additionally I went to a year-old back up via Time-Machine and go the 
version of Unison2 that I used then.

The program continues to operate this way: I run it, it crashes and 
spits out a display of the crash-guts.  Then I run the program again, 
it gives me an option so send an email to the developer, I hit escape, 
enter the program and things run fine throughout the session.

The next time I attempt to run the program, it dies anew.

I note that when I run the program all my preferences for server, font 
size, etc, including probably 150 different "rules" (including flags, 
killfiles, etc.) remain in place. I do have so much filtering/ruling, 
I'm wondering if the nit isn't in there somewhere.  Unfortunately I've 
not been able to figure out where they are kept, nor server settings 
either.
-- 
I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed us 
with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use. 
-- Galileo

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#75292

FromMichael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Date2015-05-10 12:13 -0700
Message-ID<vilain-AD2A00.12134610052015@news.individual.net>
In reply to#75223
In article <2015050912233229546-@news.giganews.com>, Bogus wrote:

> Current Status:
> 
> Deleted the following in this order:
> 
> 1) ~/Library/Caches/Unison 2/
> 
> 2) ~/Library/Caches/com.panic.Unison2/
> 
> 3) ~/Library/Preferences/com.panic.Unison2.plist cousins
> 
> 	There are also 3 or 4 files like the one above except they have random 
> letters after plist, including one named ...plist.lockfile.
> 
> 4) ~/Library/Preferences/com.panic.Unison2.plist
> 
> 4a) Just found this one:
> 	~/Library/Application Support/Unison_2
> 	~/Library/Application Support/Unison (roadrunner)
> 
> 5) ~/Library/Application Support/com.panic.Unison2/
> 	Went in here and deleted all .db files.  Restarted Unison2 and 
> hand-entered my preferred 4-5 newsgroups.
> 
> Additionally I went to a year-old back up via Time-Machine and go the 
> version of Unison2 that I used then.
> 
> The program continues to operate this way: I run it, it crashes and 
> spits out a display of the crash-guts.  Then I run the program again, 
> it gives me an option so send an email to the developer, I hit escape, 
> enter the program and things run fine throughout the session.
> 
> The next time I attempt to run the program, it dies anew.
> 
> I note that when I run the program all my preferences for server, font 
> size, etc, including probably 150 different "rules" (including flags, 
> killfiles, etc.) remain in place. I do have so much filtering/ruling, 
> I'm wondering if the nit isn't in there somewhere.  Unfortunately I've 
> not been able to figure out where they are kept, nor server settings 
> either.

I tried Unison 2.2 and quickly tossed it when it wouldn't download 
anything.  I'm running 2.1.  YOu'll need to pirate it in order to run it 
unless you already have a 2.1 serial #.

-- 
DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...
[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]

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#75293

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2015-05-10 13:20 -0700
Message-ID<2015051013202071694-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#75292
On 2015-05-10 19:13:46 +0000, Michael Vilain said:

> I tried Unison 2.2 and quickly tossed it when it wouldn't download
> anything.

I tossed it because it crashed frequently.

> I'm running 2.1.  YOu'll need to pirate it in order to run it
> unless you already have a 2.1 serial #.

I have a 2.1 serial and that's the Unison version I'm trying to get 
going again: 2.1.10.  I've used it successfully since it came out.  I 
gave 2.2 another try just two weeks ago after discussions here.  It 
crashed, I removed it and put 2.1.10 back in place.  Now 2.1.10 crashes 
*every other* time that I start it.

I assume I've developed some corruption in some resource or other.  I 
have an email into Panic in the hopes that they can give me a full list 
of where Unison hides its resources.

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#75309

FromTaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com>
Date2015-05-10 19:36 -0500
Message-ID<crabsaFlggjU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#75293
On 2015-05-10 20:20:20 +0000, gtr said:

> I have a 2.1 serial and that's the Unison version I'm trying to get 
> going again: 2.1.10.  I've used it successfully since it came out.  I 
> gave 2.2 another try just two weeks ago after discussions here.  It 
> crashed, I removed it and put 2.1.10 back in place.  Now 2.1.10 crashes 
> *every other* time that I start it.
> 
> I assume I've developed some corruption in some resource or other.  I 
> have an email into Panic in the hopes that they can give me a full list 
> of where Unison hides its resources.

All I can say is that I'm running Unison 2.2 under Yosemite 10.10.4 and 
I'm experiencing no problems whatsoever.

-- 
James Leo Ryan - Austin, Texas

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#75320

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2015-05-11 09:31 -0700
Message-ID<2015051109312117117-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#75309
On 2015-05-11 00:36:26 +0000, TaliesinSoft said:

> On 2015-05-10 20:20:20 +0000, gtr said:
> 
>> I have a 2.1 serial and that's the Unison version I'm trying to get 
>> going again: 2.1.10.  I've used it successfully since it came out.  I 
>> gave 2.2 another try just two weeks ago after discussions here.  It 
>> crashed, I removed it and put 2.1.10 back in place.  Now 2.1.10 crashes 
>> *every other* time that I start it.
>> 
>> I assume I've developed some corruption in some resource or other.  I 
>> have an email into Panic in the hopes that they can give me a full list 
>> of where Unison hides its resources.
> 
> All I can say is that I'm running Unison 2.2 under Yosemite 10.10.4 and 
> I'm experiencing no problems whatsoever.

Damn, I wish I could figure out how/why.

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#75321

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2015-05-11 13:26 -0400
Message-ID<iP2dnQ598O-me83InZ2dnUU7-WudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#75320
On 2015-05-11 12:31, gtr wrote:
> On 2015-05-11 00:36:26 +0000, TaliesinSoft said:
>
>> On 2015-05-10 20:20:20 +0000, gtr said:
>>
>>> I have a 2.1 serial and that's the Unison version I'm trying to get
>>> going again: 2.1.10.  I've used it successfully since it came out.  I
>>> gave 2.2 another try just two weeks ago after discussions here.  It
>>> crashed, I removed it and put 2.1.10 back in place.  Now 2.1.10
>>> crashes *every other* time that I start it.
>>>
>>> I assume I've developed some corruption in some resource or other.  I
>>> have an email into Panic in the hopes that they can give me a full
>>> list of where Unison hides its resources.
>>
>> All I can say is that I'm running Unison 2.2 under Yosemite 10.10.4
>> and I'm experiencing no problems whatsoever.
>
> Damn, I wish I could figure out how/why.

I'm too lazy to re-read the thread but did you nuke (AppCleaner) Unison 
and re-install it.  (Do you have the .dmg?).


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#75404

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2015-05-11 17:47 -0700
Message-ID<2015051117471930673-xxx@yyy.zzz>
In reply to#75144
On 2015-05-08 15:49:39 +0000, gtr said:

> I've deleted the following in this order, run the program a few times, 
> producing crashes and then moved on:
> 
> 1) subdir: ~/Library/Caches/Unison 2/
> 
> 2) subdir: ~/Library/Caches/com.panic.Unison2/
> 
> 3) files: ~/Library/Preferences/com.panic.Unison2.plist cousins
> 
> 	There were 3 or 4 files like the one above except they have random 
> letters after plist (e.g. ".eZr9xl" and the like), including one with a 
> lockfile extension.  Killed all of them.
> 
> 4) ~/Library/Preferences/com.panic.Unison2.plist
> 
> 5) ~/Library/Application Support/com.panic.Unison2/

I just got word from Panic that the above files are their total 
resource locations, though I've yet to verify that nothing is actually 
stored within the app itself.

Still the most notable info provided was this: "the one missing part is 
after deleting them all you’ll need to restart your Mac afterwards. The 
more recent versions of OS X have been aggressively caching this type 
of data."

In all attemptes to use 2.2 I simply swapped out the program and ran 
it.  Maybe it would have been wiser to swap, reboot and then run 2.2.

For *whatever reason*, at this point I'm running 2.2, have re-entered 
my favorite usegroups, reloaded all headers and then marked them all as 
read and it seems stable. Wonder of wonders--I'd never gotten 2.2 to 
work properly.

Just a few weeks ago I was asking about caches and TWICE since then it 
seems caches have been the source of some kind of issue.

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#75840

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2015-05-17 09:43 -0700
Message-ID<2015051709430712027-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#75404
On 2015-05-12 00:47:19 +0000, gtr said:

The saga, surprisingly, continues:

> For *whatever reason*, at this point I'm running 2.2, have re-entered 
> my favorite usegroups, reloaded all headers and then marked them all as 
> read and it seems stable. Wonder of wonders--I'd never gotten 2.2 to 
> work properly.
> 
> Just a few weeks ago I was asking about caches and TWICE since then it 
> seems caches have been the source of some kind of issue.

So things went okay with 2.2 for a while, but every time I went from 
one newsgroup to the next I would watch the little whirligig at the 
bottom of the display spin and wait 2-8 seconds while it assesed things 
and then displayed the 4 new messages.  2.1 never acted that way.

Then it began the same crashing with the same error: SIGSERV and 
exception type of SEGV_MAPERR.

Note that all my killfile "rules", my server info, my personalities, et 
al had remained with 2.2.  So now I initated a new version of 2.1 and 
found that here, inexplicably, they were all gone.  Fine; better to 
start clean.

Everything works as always 2.1, it's not slow between newsgroups.  
Eventually I started putting in my killfiles again, whittling them down 
from hundreds to scores.  Then 2.1 began crashing.  I turned off the 
newly added killfiles.  So far--no crashing.

This week's conclusion: There is something about the "rules" entries 
that have issues.  Note that I hand re-entered the various rules, none 
of them particularly complex. So it's not like it's a modified 
file--wherever the hell it may reside, which I still haven't figured 
out, nor did Panic's cserv crew tell me.

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#75855

FromMichael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Date2015-05-17 19:05 -0700
Message-ID<vilain-C39BF1.19050217052015@news.individual.net>
In reply to#75840
In article <2015051709430712027-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2015-05-12 00:47:19 +0000, gtr said:
> 
> The saga, surprisingly, continues:
> 
> > For *whatever reason*, at this point I'm running 2.2, have re-entered 
> > my favorite usegroups, reloaded all headers and then marked them all as 
> > read and it seems stable. Wonder of wonders--I'd never gotten 2.2 to 
> > work properly.
> > 
> > Just a few weeks ago I was asking about caches and TWICE since then it 
> > seems caches have been the source of some kind of issue.
> 
> So things went okay with 2.2 for a while, but every time I went from 
> one newsgroup to the next I would watch the little whirligig at the 
> bottom of the display spin and wait 2-8 seconds while it assesed things 
> and then displayed the 4 new messages.  2.1 never acted that way.
> 
> Then it began the same crashing with the same error: SIGSERV and 
> exception type of SEGV_MAPERR.
> 
> Note that all my killfile "rules", my server info, my personalities, et 
> al had remained with 2.2.  So now I initated a new version of 2.1 and 
> found that here, inexplicably, they were all gone.  Fine; better to 
> start clean.
> 
> Everything works as always 2.1, it's not slow between newsgroups.  
> Eventually I started putting in my killfiles again, whittling them down 
> from hundreds to scores.  Then 2.1 began crashing.  I turned off the 
> newly added killfiles.  So far--no crashing.
> 
> This week's conclusion: There is something about the "rules" entries 
> that have issues.  Note that I hand re-entered the various rules, none 
> of them particularly complex. So it's not like it's a modified 
> file--wherever the hell it may reside, which I still haven't figured 
> out, nor did Panic's cserv crew tell me.

Maybe there's implementation of regex has a memory leak.  I only have 5 
rules because Unison's killfile filters suck so badly.  2.1 works just 
fine for me.  But my main reader is MTNW, so I'm stuck on 10.8 for how.  
Hogwasher just released a 10.10-compatible version, so I'll see if their 
older release is any good before I migrate off of MTNW.

-- 
DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...
[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]

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#75862

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2015-05-18 08:02 -0700
Message-ID<2015051808025862303-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#75855
On 2015-05-18 02:05:02 +0000, Michael Vilain said:

> Maybe there's implementation of regex has a memory leak.

If so, you'd think I'd have encountered it some time over the past 3 
years or so.

> I only have 5 rules because Unison's killfile filters suck so badly. 
> 2.1 works just fine for me. But my main reader is MTNW, so I'm stuck on 
> 10.8 for how. Hogwasher just released a 10.10-compatible version, so 
> I'll see if their older release is any good before I migrate off of 
> MTNW.

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#75942

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2015-05-24 09:49 -0700
Message-ID<2015052409492163764-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#74946
On 2015-05-06 03:42:17 +0000, gtr said:

> Unison crashes 8-10 times a day for me now.  Always with an error 
> indicated as Exception: SIGSERV and exception type of SEGV_MAPERR.
> 
> Any ideas of how to make it go away?

Yes--turn off all of your "rules" (filters, killfiles), or delete them. 
 The memory crashes will go away.

How you can begin to use "rules" again, I can't say. 

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#76402

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2015-06-08 08:53 -0700
Message-ID<2015060808534510960-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#75942
On 2015-05-24 16:49:21 +0000, gtr said:

> On 2015-05-06 03:42:17 +0000, gtr said:
> 
>> Unison crashes 8-10 times a day for me now.  Always with an error 
>> indicated as Exception: SIGSERV and exception type of SEGV_MAPERR.
>> 
>> Any ideas of how to make it go away?
> 
> Yes--turn off all of your "rules" (filters, killfiles), or delete them. 
>  The memory crashes will go away.
> 
> How you can begin to use "rules" again, I can't say.

Here's how you can get rules to work without it crashing: Get Yosemite 
Cache Cleaner, run the "Deep Cleaning" option including "Clean System 
Cache".

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