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Changing video file type witout re-encoding (MKV)

Started byJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
First post2015-04-26 14:42 -0400
Last post2015-04-28 03:43 +0000
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  Changing video file type witout re-encoding (MKV) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-26 14:42 -0400
    Re: Changing video file type witout re-encoding (MKV) Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 15:49 -0400
      Re: Changing video file type witout re-encoding (MKV) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-26 21:43 -0400
        Re: Changing video file type witout re-encoding (MKV) Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-27 08:22 -0400
          Re: Changing video file type witout re-encoding (MKV) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-27 13:51 -0400
            Re: Changing video file type witout re-encoding (MKV) billy@MIX.COM - 2015-04-27 23:01 +0000
              Re: Changing video file type witout re-encoding (MKV) Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-27 19:51 -0400
                Re: Changing video file type witout re-encoding (MKV) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-27 22:13 -0400
                Re: Changing video file type witout re-encoding (MKV) billy@MIX.COM - 2015-04-28 03:43 +0000

#74174 — Changing video file type witout re-encoding (MKV)

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2015-04-26 14:42 -0400
SubjectChanging video file type witout re-encoding (MKV)
Message-ID<553d31b1$0$41664$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>
As certain video programming does not support .MKV file types, one needs
to convert files to a supported format.

While Handbrake does the job, it only does it by re-encoding the video.
(there is a pass through option for audio, but not for video).

I did a cursory look for a utility that can just unpack a MKV and repack
the same content into a different container type such as .MOV .AVI or
whatever.

I looked into MKVtools, but like handbrake, it appears to rebuild the
contents instead of just changing container (and the test version is
useless since it embeds its watermark which means it re-encodes the
video and modifies it).

Any hints on a simple utility that can just change the container file
format (or even split the MKV contents into video, audio, subtitles etc)
files ?

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#74197

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-26 15:49 -0400
Message-ID<553d4130$0$29427$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#74174
In article <553d31b1$0$41664$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>,
 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> As certain video programming does not support .MKV file types, one needs
> to convert files to a supported format.
> 
> While Handbrake does the job, it only does it by re-encoding the video.
> (there is a pass through option for audio, but not for video).
> 
> I did a cursory look for a utility that can just unpack a MKV and repack
> the same content into a different container type such as .MOV .AVI or
> whatever.
> 
> I looked into MKVtools, but like handbrake, it appears to rebuild the
> contents instead of just changing container (and the test version is
> useless since it embeds its watermark which means it re-encodes the
> video and modifies it).
> 
> Any hints on a simple utility that can just change the container file
> format (or even split the MKV contents into video, audio, subtitles etc)
> files ?

ffmpeg -i filename.mkv -c:v copy -c:a copy output.avi

man(1) ffmpeg
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#74266

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2015-04-26 21:43 -0400
Message-ID<553d943c$0$6719$c3e8da3$460562f1@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#74197
On 15-04-26 15:49, Warren Oates wrote:

> ffmpeg -i filename.mkv -c:v copy -c:a copy output.avi


Many many thanks. Took a while to get a working ffmpeg executable (and
no man page), but I got it working. To extract only the video, I had to
have a -an flag to it otherwise ffmpeg would not work.

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#74309

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-27 08:22 -0400
Message-ID<553e2a0f$0$14083$b1db1813$e2fc9064@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#74266
In article <553d943c$0$6719$c3e8da3$460562f1@news.astraweb.com>,
 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 15-04-26 15:49, Warren Oates wrote:
> 
> > ffmpeg -i filename.mkv -c:v copy -c:a copy output.avi
> 
> 
> Many many thanks. Took a while to get a working ffmpeg executable (and
> no man page), but I got it working. To extract only the video, I had to
> have a -an flag to it otherwise ffmpeg would not work.

Oh. Sorry. I was thinking ffmpeg (some version) shipped with OS X. I 
remember now that it's one of the things I instantly build on any new 
Mac system (along with ncftp and an updated rsync).

There was once a GUI version:

http://www.ffmpegx.com/

but I've never used it and it doesn't look like it's being maintained. 
And ffmpeg is an incredibly deep application; I'm not sure how one could 
built all it's complex invocations into a "click-here" app. You can find 
the man page online.

Also -- not sure about subtitles (which you mentioned at one point) in 
avi. You'd probably have to ship a separate file.

But but --

 -an would disable the audio, no? What audio did your avi contain?
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#74355

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2015-04-27 13:51 -0400
Message-ID<553e7710$0$32455$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#74309
On 15-04-27 08:22, Warren Oates wrote:

> There was once a GUI version:
> 
> http://www.ffmpegx.com/

Yeah, in my quest for ffmpeg,  I stumbled on that one. i stumbled on
another ffmpeg download that requires ".7z" decoder instead of zip, so I
had to hunt for such a decoder only to find that the .7z archive didn't
contain a OS-X executable (likely windows or perhaps powerPC - can
PowerPc apps run at the Unix shell ? )

> Also -- not sure about subtitles (which you mentioned at one point) in 
> avi. You'd probably have to ship a separate file.

Not concerned about it so much.

>  -an would disable the audio, no? What audio did your avi contain?

The intent was to merge the stereo audio from DVD, into the 1080p
version whose sound was the original mono. So there was no point in
having the mono audio into the "temporary" file that I would import into
Premiere where I woudl merge in the stereo audio.

Along with colour correction/white balance, it takes about 20 hours to
re-encode that movie.

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#74389

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2015-04-27 23:01 +0000
Message-ID<mhmf4o$m5k$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#74355
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes, quoting
Warren Oates:

> > There was once a GUI version:
> > 
> > http://www.ffmpegx.com/
> 
> Yeah, in my quest for ffmpeg,  I stumbled on that one. i stumbled on
> another ffmpeg download that requires ".7z" decoder instead of zip

Just for the sake of being complete, here's a not so well known one -

http://preview.tinyurl.com/optdgap  -or-
http://help.thelittleappfactory.com/customer/portal/articles/1630-where-can-i-get-the-source-of-your-compiled-ffmpeg-binary-

Which points to -

http://files.thelittleappfactory.com/evom/ffmpegsrc.zip

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#74391

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-27 19:51 -0400
Message-ID<553ecb84$0$41625$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#74389
In article <mhmf4o$m5k$1@reader2.panix.com>, billy@MIX.COM wrote:

> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes, quoting
> Warren Oates:
> 
> > > There was once a GUI version:
> > > 
> > > http://www.ffmpegx.com/
> > 
> > Yeah, in my quest for ffmpeg,  I stumbled on that one. i stumbled on
> > another ffmpeg download that requires ".7z" decoder instead of zip
> 
> Just for the sake of being complete, here's a not so well known one -
> 
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/optdgap  -or-
> http://help.thelittleappfactory.com/customer/portal/articles/1630-where-can-i-
> get-the-source-of-your-compiled-ffmpeg-binary-
> 
> Which points to -
> 
> http://files.thelittleappfactory.com/evom/ffmpegsrc.zip
> 
> Billy Y..

What is that site? Does it have a front page?
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#74394

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2015-04-27 22:13 -0400
Message-ID<553eecc8$0$22367$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#74391
Damned .... after 14 hours of processing, the movie with a silent sound
track.  It's there in the specs, but it doesn't generate ANY sound (the
stereo doesn't indicate arrival of a signal).

But the image is fine, much improved over original so that isn't lost.

I found out CS6 has "audition". It has a "convert to 5.1" "Favourite.
So now, I have to watch plenty of view and do googling to learn what if
can do and if it is of any of use :-)

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#74395

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2015-04-28 03:43 +0000
Message-ID<mhmvkg$96h$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#74391
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> writes:

> > Which points to -
> > 
> > http://files.thelittleappfactory.com/evom/ffmpegsrc.zip

> What is that site? Does it have a front page?

http://thelittleappfactory.com

The Little App Factory have written a few good tools.
RipIt is a DVD ripper, and Evom is a media converter.
I haven't tried any of their others, but these two
work quite well.

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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