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  Safari freezes whole system me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-04-18 17:46 +0000
    Re: Safari freezes whole system awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-04-18 11:14 -0700
      Re: Safari freezes whole system Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-21 18:27 -0700
    Re: Safari freezes whole system Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-04-18 18:52 -0700
      Re: Safari freezes whole system me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-04-20 13:26 +0000
    Re: Safari freezes whole system billy@MIX.COM - 2015-04-19 05:10 +0000
    Re: Safari freezes whole system Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-18 23:24 -0700
    Re: Safari freezes whole system J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-20 11:49 -0400
    Re: Safari freezes whole system Jack Shown <jackshown@gmail.com> - 2015-04-21 17:39 -0700

#73414 — Safari freezes whole system

I was browing a web page with Safari. This one, specifically:
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/taking-back-detroit/explore-detroit.html

...when my whole Mac froze up. I could move the mouse pointer but no 
response from any mouse clicks or keyboard input. After about a minute I 
initiated a sysdiagnose (ctl-optn-cmd-shift-.), and after about 15 
minutes even the mouse pointer was frozen. So I forced a powerdown and 
reboot. 

I can't see anything in the system long from between when the freeze 
started and when I initiated the sysdiagnose. Any ideas?

-----

Apr 18 08:32:41 Macintosh com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
(com.apple.imfoundation.IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent): The 
_DirtyJetsamMemoryLimit key is not available on this platform.
Apr 18 08:32:41 Macintosh com.apple.iCloudHelper[36245]: objc[36245]: 
Class FALogging is implemented in both 
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/FamilyCircle.framework/Versions/A/FamilyCircle 
and 
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/FamilyNotification.framework/Versions/A/FamilyNotification. 
One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined.
Apr 18 08:32:41 Macintosh com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
(com.apple.imfoundation.IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent): The 
_DirtyJetsamMemoryLimit key is not available on this platform.
Apr 18 08:32:42 --- last message repeated 1 time ---
Apr 18 08:32:42 Macintosh.local AddressBookSourceSync[36209]: Stream 
0x7ff07b736390 is sending an event before being opened
Apr 18 08:33:23 Macintosh com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
(com.apple.imfoundation.IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent): The 
_DirtyJetsamMemoryLimit key is not available on this platform.
Apr 18 08:33:47 --- last message repeated 1 time ---
Apr 18 08:33:47 Macintosh.local networkd[201]: -[NETClientConnection 
scrubParametersForEntitlements:] client com.apple.WebKi.30960 setting 
source application without entitlement
Apr 18 08:34:18 --- last message repeated 1 time ---
Apr 18 08:34:55 Macintosh kernel[0]: IOHIDSystem posted stackshot event 
0x37
Apr 18 08:34:56 Macintosh.local sysdiagnose[36699]: symtracefile: 
/Library/Logs/stackshot-syms.log
Apr 18 08:34:56 Macintosh.local stackshot[93]: 2015-04-18 08:34:56.155 
sysdiagnose[36699:2927982] symtracefile: 
/Library/Logs/stackshot-syms.log
Apr 18 08:34:56 Macintosh.local sysdiagnose[36699]: Initiated via 
stackshot. Using pid [11900] of frontmost app 'Safari'.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#73415

On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 1:47:07 PM UTC-4, Király wrote:
> I was browing a web page with Safari. This one, specifically:
> http://www.nationalgeographic.com/taking-back-detroit/explore-detroit.html
> 
> ...when my whole Mac froze up. I could move the mouse pointer but no 
> response from any mouse clicks or keyboard input. After about a minute I 
> initiated a sysdiagnose (ctl-optn-cmd-shift-.), and after about 15 
> minutes even the mouse pointer was frozen. So I forced a powerdown and 
> reboot. 
> 
> I can't see anything in the system long from between when the freeze 
> started and when I initiated the sysdiagnose. Any ideas?
> 
> -----
> 
> Apr 18 08:32:41 Macintosh com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
> (com.apple.imfoundation.IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent): The 
> _DirtyJetsamMemoryLimit key is not available on this platform.
> Apr 18 08:32:41 Macintosh com.apple.iCloudHelper[36245]: objc[36245]: 
> Class FALogging is implemented in both 
> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/FamilyCircle.framework/Versions/A/FamilyCircle 
> and 
> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/FamilyNotification.framework/Versions/A/FamilyNotification. 
> One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined.
> Apr 18 08:32:41 Macintosh com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
> (com.apple.imfoundation.IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent): The 
> _DirtyJetsamMemoryLimit key is not available on this platform.
> Apr 18 08:32:42 --- last message repeated 1 time ---
> Apr 18 08:32:42 Macintosh.local AddressBookSourceSync[36209]: Stream 
> 0x7ff07b736390 is sending an event before being opened
> Apr 18 08:33:23 Macintosh com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
> (com.apple.imfoundation.IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent): The 
> _DirtyJetsamMemoryLimit key is not available on this platform.
> Apr 18 08:33:47 --- last message repeated 1 time ---
> Apr 18 08:33:47 Macintosh.local networkd[201]: -[NETClientConnection 
> scrubParametersForEntitlements:] client com.apple.WebKi.30960 setting 
> source application without entitlement
> Apr 18 08:34:18 --- last message repeated 1 time ---
> Apr 18 08:34:55 Macintosh kernel[0]: IOHIDSystem posted stackshot event 
> 0x37
> Apr 18 08:34:56 Macintosh.local sysdiagnose[36699]: symtracefile: 
> /Library/Logs/stackshot-syms.log
> Apr 18 08:34:56 Macintosh.local stackshot[93]: 2015-04-18 08:34:56.155 
> sysdiagnose[36699:2927982] symtracefile: 
> /Library/Logs/stackshot-syms.log
> Apr 18 08:34:56 Macintosh.local sysdiagnose[36699]: Initiated via 
> stackshot. Using pid [11900] of frontmost app 'Safari'.


Only half of Mac users use that POS.  Tell you something?

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#73847

On 2015-04-18 18:14:33 +0000, awoolmeyer@gmail.com said:

> Only half of Mac users use that POS.  Tell you something?

Safari is the only web browser that actually renders fonts properly.  
Firefox and Chrome both look like shit.

Why buy a Mac and use OS X, which has the best font rendering of any OS 
ever made, if you're going to spend your time reading weirdly distorted 
fonts?

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#73430

In article <mgu58u$rj3$2@dont-email.me>, me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) 
wrote:

> I was browing a web page with Safari. This one, specifically:
> http://www.nationalgeographic.com/taking-back-detroit/explore-detroit.html
> 
> ...when my whole Mac froze up. I could move the mouse pointer but no 
> response from any mouse clicks or keyboard input. After about a minute I 
> initiated a sysdiagnose (ctl-optn-cmd-shift-.), and after about 15 
> minutes even the mouse pointer was frozen. So I forced a powerdown and 
> reboot. 
> 
> I can't see anything in the system long from between when the freeze 
> started and when I initiated the sysdiagnose. Any ideas?
> 
> -----
> 
> Apr 18 08:32:41 Macintosh com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
> (com.apple.imfoundation.IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent): The 
> _DirtyJetsamMemoryLimit key is not available on this platform.
> Apr 18 08:32:41 Macintosh com.apple.iCloudHelper[36245]: objc[36245]: 
> Class FALogging is implemented in both 
> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/FamilyCircle.framework/Versions/A/FamilyCirc
> le 
> and 
> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/FamilyNotification.framework/Versions/A/Fami
> lyNotification. 
> One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined.
> Apr 18 08:32:41 Macintosh com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
> (com.apple.imfoundation.IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent): The 
> _DirtyJetsamMemoryLimit key is not available on this platform.
> Apr 18 08:32:42 --- last message repeated 1 time ---
> Apr 18 08:32:42 Macintosh.local AddressBookSourceSync[36209]: Stream 
> 0x7ff07b736390 is sending an event before being opened
> Apr 18 08:33:23 Macintosh com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
> (com.apple.imfoundation.IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent): The 
> _DirtyJetsamMemoryLimit key is not available on this platform.
> Apr 18 08:33:47 --- last message repeated 1 time ---
> Apr 18 08:33:47 Macintosh.local networkd[201]: -[NETClientConnection 
> scrubParametersForEntitlements:] client com.apple.WebKi.30960 setting 
> source application without entitlement
> Apr 18 08:34:18 --- last message repeated 1 time ---
> Apr 18 08:34:55 Macintosh kernel[0]: IOHIDSystem posted stackshot event 
> 0x37
> Apr 18 08:34:56 Macintosh.local sysdiagnose[36699]: symtracefile: 
> /Library/Logs/stackshot-syms.log
> Apr 18 08:34:56 Macintosh.local stackshot[93]: 2015-04-18 08:34:56.155 
> sysdiagnose[36699:2927982] symtracefile: 
> /Library/Logs/stackshot-syms.log
> Apr 18 08:34:56 Macintosh.local sysdiagnose[36699]: Initiated via 
> stackshot. Using pid [11900] of frontmost app 'Safari'.

Boy MacOS just hates you doesn't it.  Sorta warms my heart.

Does this site work with Chrome or some other non-Webkit browser?

Does this site work with Safari from another account on the same Mac?

Does this site work with Safari from another Mac running the same OS you 
are using (hint: the Apple Store will help with this)?

If you try the site at another location like a Starbucks or, maybe, an 
Apple Store at their Genius Bar, does it freeze?

Just some of the things I'd try...

-- 
DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...
[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]

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#73719

Michael Vilain <vilain@nospamcop.net> wrote:
> Boy MacOS just hates you doesn't it.  Sorta warms my heart.

?

> Does this site work with [... x 3]
> If you try the site at another location like [...]

I don't think the site is the problem. That's just what I happened to be 
doing when the system froze. And it's not repeatable, anyway. I have 
revisited that site without any problem.

I was hoping someone might spot something relevant in the attached 
system log that I couldn't spot.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#73441

Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> writes:

> I was browing a web page with Safari. This one, specifically:
> http://www.nationalgeographic.com/taking-back-detroit/explore-detroit.html

It works of for me.  I'm using AdBlock and DisconnectMe, though.
You might want to give them a try - I see many sites blocked.  Heh.

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#73444

In article <mgu58u$rj3$2@dont-email.me>, me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) wrote:

> I was browing a web page with Safari. This one, specifically:
> http://www.nationalgeographic.com/taking-back-detroit/explore-detroit.html
> 
> ...when my whole Mac froze up. I could move the mouse pointer but no 
> response from any mouse clicks or keyboard input. After about a minute I 
> initiated a sysdiagnose (ctl-optn-cmd-shift-.), and after about 15 
> minutes even the mouse pointer was frozen. So I forced a powerdown and 
> reboot. 

Run with Activity Monitor. Is Safari Web Content seizing all the real memory?

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
Icke's razor: Given two equally plausible explanations, choose the weirder.
That's People's Commissioner Siri Cruz now. Punch!

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#73776

On 4/18/15 1:46 PM, Király wrote:
> I was browing a web page with Safari. This one, specifically:
> http://www.nationalgeographic.com/taking-back-detroit/explore-detroit.html
>
> ...when my whole Mac froze up. I could move the mouse pointer but no
> response from any mouse clicks or keyboard input. After about a minute I
> initiated a sysdiagnose (ctl-optn-cmd-shift-.), and after about 15
> minutes even the mouse pointer was frozen. So I forced a powerdown and
> reboot.
>
> I can't see anything in the system long from between when the freeze
> started and when I initiated the sysdiagnose. Any ideas?
>
> -----
>
> Apr 18 08:32:41 Macintosh com.apple.xpc.launchd[1]
> (com.apple.imfoundation.IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent): The
> _DirtyJetsamMemoryLimit key is not available on this platform.
> Apr 18 08:32:41 Macintosh com.apple.iCloudHelper[36245]: objc[36245]:
> Class FALogging is implemented in both
> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/FamilyCircle.framework/Versions/A/FamilyCircle
> and
> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/FamilyNotification.framework/Versions/A/FamilyNotification.
> One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined.
> Apr 18 08:32:41 Macintosh com.apple.xpc.launchd[1]
> (com.apple.imfoundation.IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent): The
> _DirtyJetsamMemoryLimit key is not available on this platform.
> Apr 18 08:32:42 --- last message repeated 1 time ---
> Apr 18 08:32:42 Macintosh.local AddressBookSourceSync[36209]: Stream
> 0x7ff07b736390 is sending an event before being opened
> Apr 18 08:33:23 Macintosh com.apple.xpc.launchd[1]
> (com.apple.imfoundation.IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent): The
> _DirtyJetsamMemoryLimit key is not available on this platform.
> Apr 18 08:33:47 --- last message repeated 1 time ---
> Apr 18 08:33:47 Macintosh.local networkd[201]: -[NETClientConnection
> scrubParametersForEntitlements:] client com.apple.WebKi.30960 setting
> source application without entitlement
> Apr 18 08:34:18 --- last message repeated 1 time ---
> Apr 18 08:34:55 Macintosh kernel[0]: IOHIDSystem posted stackshot event
> 0x37
> Apr 18 08:34:56 Macintosh.local sysdiagnose[36699]: symtracefile:
> /Library/Logs/stackshot-syms.log
> Apr 18 08:34:56 Macintosh.local stackshot[93]: 2015-04-18 08:34:56.155
> sysdiagnose[36699:2927982] symtracefile:
> /Library/Logs/stackshot-syms.log
> Apr 18 08:34:56 Macintosh.local sysdiagnose[36699]: Initiated via
> stackshot. Using pid [11900] of frontmost app 'Safari'.
>
IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent seems to be for connecting to iChat and maybe 
other stuff.

DirtyJetsamMemoryLimit seems to be to avoid memory problems when 
connecting to iOS.

<http://www.nationalgeographic.com/taking-back-detroit/explore-detroit.html> 
seems to download several MB, but when I click Information in Activity 
Monitor, Safari seems to use less memory after loading that page.  Go 
figure!

I think something was fooling your memory management, and restarting 
fixed it.

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#73845

On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 10:47:07 AM UTC-7, Király wrote:
> I was browing a web page with Safari. This one, specifically:
> http://www.nationalgeographic.com/taking-back-detroit/explore-detroit.html
> 
> ...when my whole Mac froze up. I could move the mouse pointer but no 
> response from any mouse clicks or keyboard input. After about a minute I 
> initiated a sysdiagnose (ctl-optn-cmd-shift-.), and after about 15 
> minutes even the mouse pointer was frozen. So I forced a powerdown and 
> reboot. 
> 
> I can't see anything in the system long from between when the freeze 
> started and when I initiated the sysdiagnose. Any ideas?
> 
> -----
> 
> Apr 18 08:32:41 Macintosh com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
> (com.apple.imfoundation.IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent): The 
> _DirtyJetsamMemoryLimit key is not available on this platform.
> Apr 18 08:32:41 Macintosh com.apple.iCloudHelper[36245]: objc[36245]: 
> Class FALogging is implemented in both 
> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/FamilyCircle.framework/Versions/A/FamilyCircle 
> and 
> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/FamilyNotification.framework/Versions/A/FamilyNotification. 
> One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined.
> Apr 18 08:32:41 Macintosh com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
> (com.apple.imfoundation.IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent): The 
> _DirtyJetsamMemoryLimit key is not available on this platform.
> Apr 18 08:32:42 --- last message repeated 1 time ---
> Apr 18 08:32:42 Macintosh.local AddressBookSourceSync[36209]: Stream 
> 0x7ff07b736390 is sending an event before being opened
> Apr 18 08:33:23 Macintosh com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
> (com.apple.imfoundation.IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent): The 
> _DirtyJetsamMemoryLimit key is not available on this platform.
> Apr 18 08:33:47 --- last message repeated 1 time ---
> Apr 18 08:33:47 Macintosh.local networkd[201]: -[NETClientConnection 
> scrubParametersForEntitlements:] client com.apple.WebKi.30960 setting 
> source application without entitlement
> Apr 18 08:34:18 --- last message repeated 1 time ---
> Apr 18 08:34:55 Macintosh kernel[0]: IOHIDSystem posted stackshot event 
> 0x37
> Apr 18 08:34:56 Macintosh.local sysdiagnose[36699]: symtracefile: 
> /Library/Logs/stackshot-syms.log
> Apr 18 08:34:56 Macintosh.local stackshot[93]: 2015-04-18 08:34:56.155 
> sysdiagnose[36699:2927982] symtracefile: 
> /Library/Logs/stackshot-syms.log
> Apr 18 08:34:56 Macintosh.local sysdiagnose[36699]: Initiated via 
> stackshot. Using pid [11900] of frontmost app 'Safari'.
> 
> -- 
> K.
> 
> Lang may your lum reek.

I've had similar problems with Safari (although it is, by far, my favorite browser).  Then, I shutdown Safari and startup Firefox and then continue on my merry way.  Not that that's a solution.

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