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  Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-10 13:17 -0400
    Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-04-10 12:38 -0500
    Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-10 14:17 -0400
    Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-04-10 13:04 -0700
      Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-04-11 01:50 +0000
        Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-04-14 05:47 -0700
      Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-10 21:39 -0700
      Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-11 10:06 -0400
        Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-04-11 22:44 +0000
    Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 11:49 +0000
      Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-11 10:38 -0400
        Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 15:58 +0000
          Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-11 18:31 -0400
            Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-11 21:17 -0400
              Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-12 08:56 -0400
    Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-04-11 15:23 +0000
      Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-04-11 13:09 -0500
        Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 14:58 -0400
          Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-04-12 15:27 +0000
    Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2015-04-12 13:43 +0000
    Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits "Rogers" <J.Rogers@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 09:44 -0400
      Re: Yosemite .3 update  whacked some apps and limits claudel@sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) - 2015-04-12 14:21 +0000

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#73017 — Yosemite .3 update whacked some apps and limits

1Password (v5):	Lost registration data. Had to re-enter license.

Unison (2.1.x: Lost license data and all newsgroups and rules.  Not sure 
where to recover them from (low priority).  (I have the license key).

Max number of files I can open simultaneously in a test program is 254. 
  Down from 2558 as reported in an earlier thread.
issued ulimit -n 4000.  Can now open 3998.

XQuartz fails to run.  Re-installed.   Wireshark can't find the 
ethernet... (seen that before I think, so maybe ok).

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#73021

Bummer.  Thus far I haven't seen any problems with the update on two 
Macs, but I don't use any of the software you mentioned.  Good luck!

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#73026

On 4/10/15, 1:17 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> XQuartz fails to run.  Re-installed.

I opened XQuartz and it offered me an update. In extracting the update, 
it got hung up, with XQuartz using a lot of CPU. I quit.

The installer for the new version is in Documents. I'll bet it couldn't 
be installed with XQuartz running, but that's what it tried to do when I 
clicked the button.

I don't remember why I installed XQuartz.

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#73030

On Apr 10, 2015, Alan Browne wrote
(in article<XpKdnQAR5v0smLXInZ2dnUU7-QGdnZ2d@giganews.com>):

> 
> 
> 1Password (v5): Lost registration data. Had to re-enter license.

I haven’t had that problem at all.
> 
> 
> Unison (2.1.x: Lost license data and all newsgroups and rules. Not sure
> where to recover them from (low priority). (I have the license key).

Actually Unison 2.2 works *better* in 10.10.3 - I can actually use it now.
> 
> Max number of files I can open simultaneously in a test program is 254.
> Down from 2558 as reported in an earlier thread.
> issued ulimit -n 4000. Can now open 3998.

I override my ulimit anyway..
> 
> XQuartz fails to run. Re-installed. Wireshark can't find the
> ethernet... (seen that before I think, so maybe ok).

Hm… I’ll have to try this.

--
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they 
are genuine."
- Abraham Lincoln

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#73041

On 2015-04-10, tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> wrote:
> 
>> XQuartz fails to run. Re-installed. Wireshark can't find the
>> ethernet... (seen that before I think, so maybe ok).
>
> Hm??? I???ll have to try this.
>

No problem here with XQuartz.  No updated needed and it worked fine..


-- 
Come, muse, let us sing of rats!
		-- From a poem by James Grainger, 1721-1767

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#73232

On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 9:51:37 PM UTC-4, tmo1138 wrote:
> On 2015-04-10, tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> wrote:
> > 
> >> XQuartz fails to run. Re-installed. Wireshark can't find the
> >> ethernet... (seen that before I think, so maybe ok).
> >
> > Hm??? I???ll have to try this.
> >
> 
> No problem here with XQuartz.  No updated needed and it worked fine..

Oh goody!  Your little cunt must be dripping with pleasure.

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#73049

On 2015-04-10 20:04:04 +0000, tmo1138 said:

> On Apr 10, 2015, Alan Browne wrote
> (in article<XpKdnQAR5v0smLXInZ2dnUU7-QGdnZ2d@giganews.com>):
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 1Password (v5): Lost registration data. Had to re-enter license.
> 
> I haven’t had that problem at all.

Nor I.

>> Unison (2.1.x: Lost license data and all newsgroups and rules. Not sure
>> where to recover them from (low priority). (I have the license key).
> 
> Actually Unison 2.2 works *better* in 10.10.3 - I can actually use it now.

Cool; I'll give it a try.

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#73070

On 2015-04-10 16:04, tmo1138 wrote:
> On Apr 10, 2015, Alan Browne wrote
> (in article<XpKdnQAR5v0smLXInZ2dnUU7-QGdnZ2d@giganews.com>):
>
>>
>>
>> 1Password (v5): Lost registration data. Had to re-enter license.
>
> I haven’t had that problem at all.
>>
>>
>> Unison (2.1.x: Lost license data and all newsgroups and rules. Not sure
>> where to recover them from (low priority). (I have the license key).
>
> Actually Unison 2.2 works *better* in 10.10.3 - I can actually use it now.

Does it download multipart binaries properly now?

Let's see...

Nope.  It's still shit.

(if there many parts and I have unison set to DL 8 parts at a time, then 
8 parts should be DL'd concurrently.  2.2 does not do that).

>>
>> Max number of files I can open simultaneously in a test program is 254.
>> Down from 2558 as reported in an earlier thread.
>> issued ulimit -n 4000. Can now open 3998.
>
> I override my ulimit anyway..
>>
>> XQuartz fails to run. Re-installed. Wireshark can't find the
>> ethernet... (seen that before I think, so maybe ok).
>
> Hm… I’ll have to try this.
>
> --
> "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they
> are genuine."
> - Abraham Lincoln

Your quote delimiter needs a space after the two dashes.
"-- ", not "--".

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#73111

On 2015-04-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> Actually Unison 2.2 works *better* in 10.10.3 - I can actually use it now.
>
> Does it download multipart binaries properly now?
>
> Let's see...
>
> Nope.  It's still shit.

I don't use Unison for binaries.. so I couldn't imagine 10.10.3 resolving that.

Perhaps when Hogwasher 5 comes out of beta you'll have a mac-based solution
again.


-- 
All things being equal, you are bound to lose.

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#73060

In message <XpKdnQAR5v0smLXInZ2dnUU7-QGdnZ2d@giganews.com> 
  Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:


> 1Password (v5):	Lost registration data. Had to re-enter license.

Not here on 6 Macs with 1Password.

> Max number of files I can open simultaneously in a test program is 254. 

Your test program is broken or badly coded. The hard limit in OS X for
open files has been unlimited for a while, and before that it was 64K.

> XQuartz fails to run.

That would be an XQuartz problem. What do they have to say about it?

(also, less than 1% of 1% of Mac users care about XQuartz).



-- 
Space Directive 723: Terraformers are expressly forbidden from
recreating Swindon.

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#73072

On 2015-04-11 07:49, Lewis wrote:
> In message <XpKdnQAR5v0smLXInZ2dnUU7-QGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
>    Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>
>> 1Password (v5):	Lost registration data. Had to re-enter license.
>
> Not here on 6 Macs with 1Password.
>
>> Max number of files I can open simultaneously in a test program is 254.
>
> Your test program is broken or badly coded. The hard limit in OS X for

It's coded to open (and leave open) as many files as possible until an 
IO error is returned.  See below.

> open files has been unlimited for a while, and before that it was 64K.

See Mezei's Virtual memory thread earlier this week.  Replies by Baker 
and Cruz seem to say different.

If, in a new terminal session:
       Alans-iMac:opsware alanbrowne$ ulimit -a

       core file size          (blocks, -c) 0
       data seg size           (kbytes, -d) unlimited
       file size               (blocks, -f) unlimited
       max locked memory       (kbytes, -l) unlimited
       max memory size         (kbytes, -m) unlimited
       open files                      (-n) 256               <****
       pipe size            (512 bytes, -p) 1
       stack size              (kbytes, -s) 8192
       cpu time               (seconds, -t) unlimited
       max user processes              (-u) 709
       virtual memory          (kbytes, -v) unlimited

You can see the "open files" limit is 256.

Prior to .3 that limit was 2560 (as I last checked during the Mezei thread).

I didn't set that and it has nothing to do with the program coding.  (If 
I set -n to, say, 4000, then I get 3998 open files.).

Just tested it for 8,000 files by changing ulimit -n.  No problem. 
Opened 7998 files.

So, something related to the .3 update changed that limit.

>
>> XQuartz fails to run.
>
> That would be an XQuartz problem. What do they have to say about it?

Runs fine now (the same version).  But had to re-install it.

>
> (also, less than 1% of 1% of Mac users care about XQuartz).

Possibly but I use inkscape occasionally and wireshark from time to time 
so it's an issue.  Others use XQuartz for other things.

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#73082

In message <seydnRJfA-efr7TInZ2dnUU7-LGdnZ2d@giganews.com> 
  Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2015-04-11 07:49, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <XpKdnQAR5v0smLXInZ2dnUU7-QGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>    Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> 1Password (v5):	Lost registration data. Had to re-enter license.
>>
>> Not here on 6 Macs with 1Password.
>>
>>> Max number of files I can open simultaneously in a test program is 254.
>>
>> Your test program is broken or badly coded. The hard limit in OS X for

> It's coded to open (and leave open) as many files as possible until an 
> IO error is returned.  See below.

>> open files has been unlimited for a while, and before that it was 64K.

> See Mezei's Virtual memory thread earlier this week.  Replies by Baker 
> and Cruz seem to say different.

> If, in a new terminal session:
>        Alans-iMac:opsware alanbrowne$ ulimit -a

That is not the hard limit.  Try ulimit -Ha instead.

> So, something related to the .3 update changed that limit.

The SOFT limit.

-- 
4 priests, 12 rabbis, and 24 lawyers walk into a bar. Bartender says,
"Is this a joke?"

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#73109

On 2015-04-11 11:58, Lewis wrote:
> In message <seydnRJfA-efr7TInZ2dnUU7-LGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
>    Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2015-04-11 07:49, Lewis wrote:
>>> In message <XpKdnQAR5v0smLXInZ2dnUU7-QGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>>     Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> 1Password (v5):	Lost registration data. Had to re-enter license.
>>>
>>> Not here on 6 Macs with 1Password.
>>>
>>>> Max number of files I can open simultaneously in a test program is 254.
>>>
>>> Your test program is broken or badly coded. The hard limit in OS X for
>
>> It's coded to open (and leave open) as many files as possible until an
>> IO error is returned.  See below.
>
>>> open files has been unlimited for a while, and before that it was 64K.
>
>> See Mezei's Virtual memory thread earlier this week.  Replies by Baker
>> and Cruz seem to say different.
>
>> If, in a new terminal session:
>>         Alans-iMac:opsware alanbrowne$ ulimit -a
>
> That is not the hard limit.  Try ulimit -Ha instead.
>
>> So, something related to the .3 update changed that limit.
>
> The SOFT limit.

Which isn't the point.  The point is that .3 changed it for no good 
reason as well as causing other issues.

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#73127

On 15-04-11 18:31, Alan Browne wrote:

> Which isn't the point.  The point is that .3 changed it for no good 
> reason as well as causing other issues.

I suspect the soft limit gets raised "on demand" by certain utilities.

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#73164

On 2015-04-11 21:17, JF Mezei wrote:
> On 15-04-11 18:31, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> Which isn't the point.  The point is that .3 changed it for no good
>> reason as well as causing other issues.
>
> I suspect the soft limit gets raised "on demand" by certain utilities.

Could be.

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#73077

The update whacked iPhoto for me. I had updated iPhoto to the 
latest 9.6.1 on one of my two 10.10 volumes, but when I was booted on my 
second 10.10 volume, the MAS didn't offer me up the iPhoto 9.6.1 update. 
After installing 10.10.3 on that volume, it said the iPhoro 9.6 was 
incompatible and there was no way to update it. Luckily I was able to 
copy the installed iPhoto 9.6.1 from the other volume to that one.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#73090

On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 15:23:28 +0000 (UTC), Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> 
wrote:
> The update whacked iPhoto for me.

Probably because iPhoto has been replaced with Photos.  New app.  I 
don't use either enough to be able to figure out the differences based 
on utility.

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#73095

In article <slrnmiioqs.3q3.timmcn@sugaree-2.local>,
 Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 15:23:28 +0000 (UTC), Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> 
> wrote:
> > The update whacked iPhoto for me.
> 
> Probably because iPhoto has been replaced with Photos.  New app.  I 
> don't use either enough to be able to figure out the differences based 
> on utility.

If you don't have iPhoto 9.6.3, it will get "whacked." It doesn't get 
deleted (even Apple aren't that Scientologistic) but it gets one of 
those grey circles through it. Even if it's 9.6.2. Assholes. And you 
can't upgrade it anymore, of course. Assholes.

Lightroom is a better app anyway.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#73173

Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you don't have iPhoto 9.6.3, it will get "whacked." It doesn't get 
> deleted (even Apple aren't that Scientologistic) but it gets one of 
> those grey circles through it. Even if it's 9.6.2. Assholes. And you 
> can't upgrade it anymore, of course. Assholes.

How can I get the MAS to offer me iPhoto 9.6.3? I'm guessing since I 
already updated iPhoto to 9.6.3 on one volume, that the MAS thinks I 
already have it and won't offer it to me on the other volume.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#73167

Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

> Unison (2.1.x: Lost license data and all newsgroups and rules.  Not sure 
> where to recover them from (low priority).  (I have the license key).

I didn't have this problem with Unison but oddly, VLC which I use almost
daily, after the update, the OSX came up that "this program was downloaded
from the internet" box, clicked once to run, it's been fine.

The only other thing was the Remote Access/VNC stuff, I have 3 shortcuts on
the desktop to connect to 3 different machine desktops and all of them (or
whatever is underneath) lost the login/password to connect. Re-entered those
and they have been fine since too.

Nothing else besides those two things note worthy.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

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