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  A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement.  Juan I. Cahis <jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-08 20:31 -0500
    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement.  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-08 18:59 -0700
      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) - 2015-04-09 02:41 +0000
        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-08 20:12 -0700
          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-04-09 01:18 -0400
            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-08 22:31 -0700
              Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 14:00 +0000
                Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-09 08:53 -0700
                  Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 17:24 +0000
                    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-09 10:48 -0700
                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-09 14:39 -0400
                        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 23:01 +0000
                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 22:59 +0000
                        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 10:08 -0400
                          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-10 15:22 +0000
                            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 11:58 -0400
                              Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 11:27 +0000
                                Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 09:21 -0400
                                  Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 10:42 -0400
                                  Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 15:39 +0000
                                    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 13:01 -0400
                                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 14:18 -0400
                                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 21:57 +0000
          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 13:39 +0000
            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-09 08:51 -0700
              Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 17:21 +0000
                Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-09 13:27 -0400
                  Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 22:53 +0000
                    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 10:12 -0400
                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-10 20:00 -0700
                  Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. David Fritzinger <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-10 09:22 -0400
                    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-10 15:19 +0000
                    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. David Fritzinger <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-10 13:46 -0400
                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 11:24 +0000
                Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-09 10:39 -0700
                  Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 22:54 +0000
      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-08 21:30 -0700
        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-08 21:52 -0700
      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. David Fritzinger <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-09 10:58 -0400
        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-09 09:00 -0700
          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-09 12:02 -0400
            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-09 09:16 -0700
          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 17:34 +0000
          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. David Fritzinger <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-09 18:46 -0400
        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 17:31 +0000
      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-09 12:17 -0700
        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-09 12:35 -0700
          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-09 17:30 -0700
            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-09 18:17 -0700
            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-09 18:54 -0700
            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 17:08 -0400
          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-09 22:10 +0100
            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 17:11 -0400
              Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-09 23:06 +0100
                Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-10 00:48 -0400
            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-10 11:55 +0000
              Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-04-10 10:59 -0400
                Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-19 08:33 +1200
                  Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-04-19 17:33 -0400
                  Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-19 16:53 -0500
                    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-19 22:59 +0100
                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 15:24 -0700
                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-20 12:21 -0500
                        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-20 14:44 -0500
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                    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-20 10:51 +1200
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                    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-20 03:40 +0000
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        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-10 00:41 -0400
    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-09 14:06 +1200
      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-09 12:00 -0400
    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 12:50 +0000
      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-09 10:19 -0400
        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 10:41 -0400
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#72896 — A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement.

Dear friends:

I understand that Yosemite today's update replaces Aperture and iPhoto by a
new Apple product. 

But are Aperture or iPhoto *deleted* from the Mac's hard disk when
upgrading? Or can both products be used after upgrading?

If you did the upgrade, could you check this issue for me?

Thanks a lot again. 

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#72899

On 2015-04-09 01:31:54 +0000, Juan I. Cahis said:

> Dear friends:
> 
> I understand that Yosemite today's update replaces Aperture and iPhoto by a
> new Apple product.
> 
> But are Aperture or iPhoto *deleted* from the Mac's hard disk when
> upgrading? Or can both products be used after upgrading?
> 
> If you did the upgrade, could you check this issue for me?
> 
> Thanks a lot again.

I never installed Aperture as I have a Lightroom-Photoshop workflow. 
However, I had iPhoto, unused, in mothballs, and gathering dust in my 
Applications folder. It has vanished since my update to OSX 10.10.3, 
and seems to have gone off to that wasteland for End of Life apps.
I imagine that since Aperture was payware Apple cannot arbitarily 
remove it from an owner's hard drive. It can just make it inoperable 
with future OSX updates.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#72903

In article <2015040818595459285-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
Savageduck  <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>On 2015-04-09 01:31:54 +0000, Juan I. Cahis said:
>
>> Dear friends:
>> 
>> I understand that Yosemite today's update replaces Aperture and iPhoto by a
>> new Apple product.
>> 
>> But are Aperture or iPhoto *deleted* from the Mac's hard disk when
>> upgrading? Or can both products be used after upgrading?
>> 
>> If you did the upgrade, could you check this issue for me?
>> 
>> Thanks a lot again.
>
>I never installed Aperture as I have a Lightroom-Photoshop workflow. 
>However, I had iPhoto, unused, in mothballs, and gathering dust in my 
>Applications folder. It has vanished since my update to OSX 10.10.3, 
>and seems to have gone off to that wasteland for End of Life apps.
>I imagine that since Aperture was payware Apple cannot arbitarily 
>remove it from an owner's hard drive. It can just make it inoperable 
>with future OSX updates.
>

Interesting.  I installed the update, and iPhoto is still there.  I've never
used it either.

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#72905

On 2015-04-09 02:41:31 +0000, Brian Gordon said:

> In article <2015040818595459285-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
> Savageduck  <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-04-09 01:31:54 +0000, Juan I. Cahis said:
>> 
>>> Dear friends:
>>> 
>>> I understand that Yosemite today's update replaces Aperture and iPhoto by a
>>> new Apple product.
>>> 
>>> But are Aperture or iPhoto *deleted* from the Mac's hard disk when
>>> upgrading? Or can both products be used after upgrading?
>>> 
>>> If you did the upgrade, could you check this issue for me?
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot again.
>> 
>> I never installed Aperture as I have a Lightroom-Photoshop workflow.
>> However, I had iPhoto, unused, in mothballs, and gathering dust in my
>> Applications folder. It has vanished since my update to OSX 10.10.3,
>> and seems to have gone off to that wasteland for End of Life apps.
>> I imagine that since Aperture was payware Apple cannot arbitarily
>> remove it from an owner's hard drive. It can just make it inoperable
>> with future OSX updates.
>> 
> 
> Interesting.  I installed the update, and iPhoto is still there.  I've never
> used it either.

I have just searched my entire system for iPhoto and all I could find 
was an antique version on an old backup drive. I don't have a trace or 
even a lingering bouquet of my last working edition of iPhoto, which 
was functioning under OSX 10.10.2.

I just checked on *Photos* and it seems to me that Apple has thrown in 
the towel when it comes to digital imaging software. Even on iOS 
devices Pixelmator, Snapseed, and the various Adobe offerings leave 
what Apple has delivered in the dust. That is kind of sad, considering 
the potential they had with Aperture.

Photos is a rudimentary tool for uncritical snapshot shooters. It isn't 
in anyway an Aperture replacement.
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Regards,

Savageduck

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#72909

Savageduck:
> Photos is a rudimentary tool for uncritical snapshot shooters. It isn't 
> in anyway [sic] an Aperture replacement.

Didn't Apple already tell us that? Didn't they tell us that they
cooperated with Adobe to enable import of an Aperture library into LR?

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#72910

On 2015-04-09 05:18:43 +0000, Davoud said:

> Savageduck:
>> Photos is a rudimentary tool for uncritical snapshot shooters. It isn't
>> in anyway [sic] an Aperture replacement.
> 
> Didn't Apple already tell us that?

Not in so many words. They implied that *Photos* would be an iPhoto 
replacement, retaining much of the capability of that program, with 
some of the function of Aperture included. Personally I believe they 
failed both iPhoto and Aperture users.

> Didn't they tell us that they cooperated with Adobe to enable import of 
> an Aperture library into LR?

Actually they didn't tell us that at all. They were encouraging iPhoto 
& Aperture users to see the new app. That Aperture-to-Lightroom 
initiative was taken by Adobe alone, just to benefit Lightroom sales 
and expand CC subscriptions. I think it worked.


-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#72924

In message <2015040822310167750-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com> 
  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2015-04-09 05:18:43 +0000, Davoud said:

>> Savageduck:
>>> Photos is a rudimentary tool for uncritical snapshot shooters. It isn't
>>> in anyway [sic] an Aperture replacement.
>> 
>> Didn't Apple already tell us that?

> Not in so many words. They implied that *Photos* would be an iPhoto 
> replacement, retaining much of the capability of that program, with 
> some of the function of Aperture included. Personally I believe they 
> failed both iPhoto and Aperture users.

Photos is intended to replace iPhoto *and* Aperture. So far, it's
better than iPhoto.

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#72931

On 2015-04-09 14:00:34 +0000, Lewis said:

> In message <2015040822310167750-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>
>   Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-04-09 05:18:43 +0000, Davoud said:
> 
>>> Savageduck:
>>>> Photos is a rudimentary tool for uncritical snapshot shooters. It isn't
>>>> in anyway [sic] an Aperture replacement.
>>> 
>>> Didn't Apple already tell us that?
> 
>> Not in so many words. They implied that *Photos* would be an iPhoto
>> replacement, retaining much of the capability of that program, with
>> some of the function of Aperture included. Personally I believe they
>> failed both iPhoto and Aperture users.
> 
> Photos is intended to replace iPhoto *and* Aperture. So far, it's
> better than iPhoto.

...and that is yoiur opinion. I think it is a POS, unless you are 
comparing it to its iOS cousin.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#72939

In message <2015040908533822205-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com> 
  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2015-04-09 14:00:34 +0000, Lewis said:

>> In message <2015040822310167750-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>
>>   Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>> On 2015-04-09 05:18:43 +0000, Davoud said:
>> 
>>>> Savageduck:
>>>>> Photos is a rudimentary tool for uncritical snapshot shooters. It isn't
>>>>> in anyway [sic] an Aperture replacement.
>>>> 
>>>> Didn't Apple already tell us that?
>> 
>>> Not in so many words. They implied that *Photos* would be an iPhoto
>>> replacement, retaining much of the capability of that program, with
>>> some of the function of Aperture included. Personally I believe they
>>> failed both iPhoto and Aperture users.
>> 
>> Photos is intended to replace iPhoto *and* Aperture. So far, it's
>> better than iPhoto.

> ...and that is yoiur opinion.

It is also quantitatively better. It does more. It is faster. It is more
stable. Its editing capabilities are better.

> I think it is a POS, unless you are comparing it to its iOS cousin.

It is in all ways better than the most recent version of iPhoto for OS X.

I ran them side by side, in fact. Photos simply kicks iPhoto's ass.

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#72944

On 2015-04-09 17:24:49 +0000, Lewis said:

> In message <2015040908533822205-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>
>   Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-04-09 14:00:34 +0000, Lewis said:
> 
>>> In message <2015040822310167750-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>
>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2015-04-09 05:18:43 +0000, Davoud said:
>>> 
>>>>> Savageduck:
>>>>>> Photos is a rudimentary tool for uncritical snapshot shooters. It isn't
>>>>>> in anyway [sic] an Aperture replacement.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Didn't Apple already tell us that?
>>> 
>>>> Not in so many words. They implied that *Photos* would be an iPhoto
>>>> replacement, retaining much of the capability of that program, with
>>>> some of the function of Aperture included. Personally I believe they
>>>> failed both iPhoto and Aperture users.
>>> 
>>> Photos is intended to replace iPhoto *and* Aperture. So far, it's
>>> better than iPhoto.
> 
>> ...and that is yoiur opinion.
> 
> It is also quantitatively better. It does more. It is faster. It is more
> stable. Its editing capabilities are better.

I guess your expectations for either are not particularly high.

>> I think it is a POS, unless you are comparing it to its iOS cousin.
> 
> It is in all ways better than the most recent version of iPhoto for OS X.

So it is a better POS then?

> I ran them side by side, in fact. Photos simply kicks iPhoto's ass.

...and that doesn't make it a good photo editor/manager. What you are 
saying is, one not so good editor is better than another not so good 
editor. Then I guess the intended user isn't going to be in the market 
for a real photo editor such as Pixelmator, Affinity Photo, PSE, 
Lightroom, or Photoshop.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#72945

Question:

iPhoto has the ability to connect to iPhoto on other computers to copy
selections of photos to the local folders. (poor man's sync).

Does the new Photos have the same ability to connect to a remote iPhoto?

In other words, I have my main iPhoto database on a Snow Leopard
machine. Can Photos on my Yosemite laptop connect to iPhotos on desktop
and copy pictures ?

Or is sneakernet involve, with iPhotos exporting bunch of photos on a
USB key and then you import them on Photos on laptop ? (is is generally
faster anyways).

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#72958

In message <5526c74a$0$41670$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com> 
  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> Does the new Photos have the same ability to connect to a remote iPhoto?

Well, no. There is no connectivity with iPhoto. All your versions of
Photos will show all your photos, however.

> In other words, I have my main iPhoto database on a Snow Leopard
> machine. Can Photos on my Yosemite laptop connect to iPhotos on desktop
> and copy pictures ?

Photos does nothing with iPhoto but a one time read of the iPhoto
Library.

-- 
when you're no longer searching for beauty or love, just some kind of
life with the edges taken off. When you can't even define what it is
that you're frightened of...

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#72957

In message <2015040910481438008-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com> 
  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2015-04-09 17:24:49 +0000, Lewis said:

>> In message <2015040908533822205-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>
>>   Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>> On 2015-04-09 14:00:34 +0000, Lewis said:
>> 
>>>> In message <2015040822310167750-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>
>>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-04-09 05:18:43 +0000, Davoud said:
>>>> 
>>>>>> Savageduck:
>>>>>>> Photos is a rudimentary tool for uncritical snapshot shooters. It isn't
>>>>>>> in anyway [sic] an Aperture replacement.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Didn't Apple already tell us that?
>>>> 
>>>>> Not in so many words. They implied that *Photos* would be an iPhoto
>>>>> replacement, retaining much of the capability of that program, with
>>>>> some of the function of Aperture included. Personally I believe they
>>>>> failed both iPhoto and Aperture users.
>>>> 
>>>> Photos is intended to replace iPhoto *and* Aperture. So far, it's
>>>> better than iPhoto.
>> 
>>> ...and that is yoiur opinion.
>> 
>> It is also quantitatively better. It does more. It is faster. It is more
>> stable. Its editing capabilities are better.

> I guess your expectations for either are not particularly high.

Not relevant at all. I said it was better than iPhoto, you claimed that
was "my opinion." No, it is not my opinion, it *is* better.

>>> I think it is a POS, unless you are comparing it to its iOS cousin.
>> 
>> It is in all ways better than the most recent version of iPhoto for OS X.

> So it is a better POS then?

>> I ran them side by side, in fact. Photos simply kicks iPhoto's ass.

> ...and that doesn't make it a good photo editor/manager.

Where did I say it was? What I said was that it was better than iPhoto.
You chose to argue with me, several times. You were wrong.

> What you are saying is, one not so good editor is better than another
> not so good editor. Then I guess the intended user isn't going to be
> in the market for a real photo editor such as Pixelmator, Affinity
> Photo, PSE, Lightroom, or Photoshop.

The vast majority of Mac users have been using iPhoto exclusively since
it was introduced. Most users do not purchase Aperture, Lightroom, PSE,
or anything else.

-- 
But of course there were the rules. Everyone knew there were rules. They
just had to hope like Hell that the gods knew the rules, too.

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#72996

In article <slrnmie14k.9pt.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> Not relevant at all. I said it was better than iPhoto, you claimed that
> was "my opinion." No, it is not my opinion, it *is* better.

There is no god but your god? That's a stupid statement. I'm no fan of 
relativism, but that kind of blind obeisance to the kool-aid is just 
silly.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#73003

In message <5527d949$0$1622$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com> 
  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnmie14k.9pt.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> Not relevant at all. I said it was better than iPhoto, you claimed that
>> was "my opinion." No, it is not my opinion, it *is* better.

> There is no god but your god? That's a stupid statement. I'm no fan of 
> relativism, but that kind of blind obeisance to the kool-aid is just 
> silly.

You are being stupid. Photos is faster than iPhoto. It has better
editing capabilities than iPhoto. It has better face recognition than
iPhoto. It is, by any objective measure, a better product than iPhoto.

You keep claiming it is not, but have offered not a shred of evidence.
Most the things you've said about Photos are factually incorrect.

Who's drinking what Koolade?

-- 
'Does he have people put to death?' said Mort. SOMETIMES. THERE ARE
SOME THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO, WHEN YOU'RE A KING.

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#73007

In article <slrnmifqnc.vn7.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> You are being stupid. Photos is faster than iPhoto. It has better
> editing capabilities than iPhoto. It has better face recognition than
> iPhoto. 

In relativistic terms, then: who gives a fuck? We don't use those 
"capabilities" so they're not "better." We organize the pictures in 
iPhoto (using, hello, events) and then edit them elsewhere.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#73055

In message <5527f324$0$57960$c3e8da3$c8b7d2e6@news.astraweb.com> 
  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnmifqnc.vn7.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> You are being stupid. Photos is faster than iPhoto. It has better
>> editing capabilities than iPhoto. It has better face recognition than
>> iPhoto. 

> In relativistic terms, then: who gives a fuck? We don't use those 
> "capabilities" so they're not "better." We organize the pictures in 
> iPhoto (using, hello, events) and then edit them elsewhere.

Classic goal post moving there, Warren. Really, worthy of some of our
worst trolls.

I *know* you're not a troll, but you sure do have some sort of stick up
your butt about Photos vs iPhoto.


-- 
Fairy Tales are more than true; not because they tell us that dragons
exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten.

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#73065

In article <slrnmii1an.vn7.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> Classic goal post moving there, Warren. Really, worthy of some of our
> worst trolls.
> 
> I *know* you're not a troll, but you sure do have some sort of stick up
> your butt about Photos vs iPhoto.

No I don't -- I don't use iPhoto at all. I'm just trying to avoid having 
to deal with the oul' Woman's iPhoto v. Photos problems. She's still 
whinging about Eudora (can't blame her really, either, but it's gone, it 
is what it is, you do you, haters gonna hate, talk to the hand, there's 
no there there).

Right now I'm wondering why the fucking 10.3  update is trickling so 
slowly from the sacred App Store 

Pace fanboys, it's not my router nor my wireless; not my ISP nor my 
network settings: it's the App Store being slow. If my internet 
connection was that slow, I wouldn't be able to read my email or send 
this lovely message.

I am that I am.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#73073

In article <55291fd5$0$2945$b1db1813$7968482@news.astraweb.com>,
 Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> Right now I'm wondering why the fucking 10.3  update is trickling so 
> slowly from the sacred App Store 

Replying to myself: so I cancelled the download ("12 hours remaining" - 
assholes) and went to the support page where I could download the "combo 
update" and it comes in at my line speed. This is one of the richest 
companies on earth; you'd think they could afford a faster server and 
some more bandwidth, wouldn't you?

I don't know if the combo update will work.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#73080

In message <55291fd5$0$2945$b1db1813$7968482@news.astraweb.com> 
  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnmii1an.vn7.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> Classic goal post moving there, Warren. Really, worthy of some of our
>> worst trolls.
>> 
>> I *know* you're not a troll, but you sure do have some sort of stick up
>> your butt about Photos vs iPhoto.

> No I don't -- I don't use iPhoto at all.

Then why do you keep insisting that iPhoto is better than Photos.

-- 
Adolescence is the period between childhood and adultery

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