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OT: Lenovo does it for you!

Started bynmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello)
First post2015-02-19 12:33 -0700
Last post2015-02-21 18:11 +0000
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  OT: Lenovo does it for you! nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-02-19 12:33 -0700
    Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-19 16:45 -0500
      Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-20 13:24 +1300
        Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 20:39 -0500
          Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-19 17:59 -0800
            Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-02-20 09:37 -0700
              Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-20 09:42 -0800
                Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-02-20 11:02 -0700
                Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-20 20:21 +0000
          Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-19 18:22 -0800
            Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-02-19 21:39 -0500
              Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-20 07:25 -0500
                Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-02-21 03:34 +0000
                  Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-21 18:21 +1300
                    Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-21 01:16 -0800
                    Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-21 15:33 +0000
                    Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-02-22 01:35 +0000
                      Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-22 15:45 +1300
                        Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-22 01:55 -0800
            Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-20 17:14 -0500
          Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-02-19 21:36 -0500
            Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-20 07:27 -0500
              Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-21 09:49 +1300
                Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-21 09:53 -0500
          Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-20 19:08 +1300
            Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-02-20 09:40 -0700
        Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-19 17:58 -0800
          Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-20 07:29 -0500
            Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-21 09:50 +1300
            Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-20 13:31 -0800
      Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! billy@MIX.COM - 2015-02-23 18:27 +0000
      Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-03-03 09:39 -0800
        Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-03 09:43 -0800
        Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-03 18:02 +0000
          Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-03 10:14 -0800
          Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-03-03 11:54 -0800
            Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-03 12:03 -0800
              Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-03 20:56 +0000
            Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-04 09:23 -0700
          Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-04 09:08 -0700
            Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-04 16:27 +0000
        Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-04 09:07 -0700
    Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-02-19 22:43 +0000
      Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-02-20 21:11 -0800
        Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-02-21 18:11 +0000

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#69959 — OT: Lenovo does it for you!

Fromnmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello)
Date2015-02-19 12:33 -0700
SubjectOT: Lenovo does it for you!
Message-ID<1m03c1f.13oxmg919lkst6N%nmassello@yahoo.com>
Why wait for your computer to be infected with malware when you can have
the full PC experience right out of the box? 

<http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/>

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#69966

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2015-02-19 16:45 -0500
Message-ID<54e65960$0$54687$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#69959
On 15-02-19 14:33, Neill Massello wrote:
> Why wait for your computer to be infected with malware when you can have
> the full PC experience right out of the box? 
> 
> <http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/>


This is one of the HUGE advantages Apple has over competition for both
computers and iDevices. No manufacturer or wireless network allowed to
add thyeir bloatware onto the Apple device and everyone gets the same OS
irrespective of whom they bought the device from.

And this also means that when Apple issues software updates, everyone
can install them. In the case of Android, software updates are first
sent to hardware manufacturers who *can* then decide to generate a
hardware specific update which is then sent to wireless carriers who
*can* then decide to issue an update (containing their own bloatware) to
their customers.

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#69970

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2015-02-20 13:24 +1300
Message-ID<200220151324090386%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#69966
In article <54e65960$0$54687$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 15-02-19 14:33, Neill Massello wrote:
> > 
> > Why wait for your computer to be infected with malware when you can have
> > the full PC experience right out of the box? 
> > 
> > <http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-mid
> > dle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/>
> 
> This is one of the HUGE advantages Apple has over competition for both
> computers and iDevices. No manufacturer or wireless network allowed to
> add thyeir bloatware onto the Apple device and everyone gets the same OS
> irrespective of whom they bought the device from.
> 
> And this also means that when Apple issues software updates, everyone
> can install them. In the case of Android, software updates are first
> sent to hardware manufacturers who *can* then decide to generate a
> hardware specific update which is then sent to wireless carriers who
> *can* then decide to issue an update (containing their own bloatware) to
> their customers.

Apple has / does install their own "bloatware" though ... things like
Garageband, Dashboard, that silly "@" on a spring icon, etc. that few
people actually use / interested in, or in some cases don't even know
exists.

Whenever I'm setting up a new Mac removing the excess rubbish from the
Dock is one of the tasks on the list.

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#69972

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-02-19 20:39 -0500
Message-ID<54e69051$0$32456$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#69970
In article <200220151324090386%YourName@YourISP.com>,
 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> Apple has / does install their own "bloatware" though ... things like
> Garageband, Dashboard, that silly "@" on a spring icon, etc. that few
> people actually use / interested in, or in some cases don't even know
> exists.

What was the thing on the spring? I've honestly never ever understood 
Dashboard. Some people use Garbageband, I guess.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#69975

FromAlan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
Date2015-02-19 17:59 -0800
Message-ID<mc64e1$vvf$1@news.datemas.de>
In reply to#69972
On 2015-02-20 01:39:28 +0000, Warren Oates said:

> In article <200220151324090386%YourName@YourISP.com>,
>  Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> 
>> Apple has / does install their own "bloatware" though ... things like
>> Garageband, Dashboard, that silly "@" on a spring icon, etc. that few
>> people actually use / interested in, or in some cases don't even know
>> exists.
> 
> What was the thing on the spring? I've honestly never ever understood 
> Dashboard. Some people use Garbageband, I guess.

The spring was simply a Dock representation of a shortcut to a web page.

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#70022

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2015-02-20 09:37 -0700
Message-ID<200220150937393074%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#69975
In article <mc64e1$vvf$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
<alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:

> On 2015-02-20 01:39:28 +0000, Warren Oates said:
> 
> > In article <200220151324090386%YourName@YourISP.com>,
> >  Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Apple has / does install their own "bloatware" though ... things like
> >> Garageband, Dashboard, that silly "@" on a spring icon, etc. that few
> >> people actually use / interested in, or in some cases don't even know
> >> exists.
> > 
> > What was the thing on the spring? I've honestly never ever understood 
> > Dashboard. Some people use Garbageband, I guess.
> 
> The spring was simply a Dock representation of a shortcut to a web page.
 
And has been replaced by a globe of the Earth showing the Western
Hemisphere.

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#70027

FromAlan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
Date2015-02-20 09:42 -0800
Message-ID<mc7rm3$j0k$1@news.datemas.de>
In reply to#70022
On 2015-02-20 16:37:39 +0000, Michelle Steiner said:

> In article <mc64e1$vvf$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
> <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-02-20 01:39:28 +0000, Warren Oates said:
>> 
>>> In article <200220151324090386%YourName@YourISP.com>,
>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Apple has / does install their own "bloatware" though ... things like
>>>> Garageband, Dashboard, that silly "@" on a spring icon, etc. that few
>>>> people actually use / interested in, or in some cases don't even know
>>>> exists.
>>> 
>>> What was the thing on the spring? I've honestly never ever understood
>>> Dashboard. Some people use Garbageband, I guess.
>> 
>> The spring was simply a Dock representation of a shortcut to a web page.
> 
> And has been replaced by a globe of the Earth showing the Western
> Hemisphere.

On Mavericks (my OS) if you drag a web address straight to the Dock you 
still get a spring.

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#70029

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2015-02-20 11:02 -0700
Message-ID<200220151102519791%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#70027
In article <mc7rm3$j0k$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
<alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:

> > And has been replaced by a globe of the Earth showing the Western
> > Hemisphere.
> 
> On Mavericks (my OS) if you drag a web address straight to the Dock you 
> still get a spring.

In Yosemite, it's the globe.

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#70032

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-02-20 20:21 +0000
Message-ID<ckpj9iF5hnoU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#70027
On 2015-02-20, Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
> On 2015-02-20 16:37:39 +0000, Michelle Steiner said:
>> In article <mc64e1$vvf$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
>> <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>>> On 2015-02-20 01:39:28 +0000, Warren Oates said:
>>> 
>>>> What was the thing on the spring? I've honestly never ever understood
>>>> Dashboard. Some people use Garbageband, I guess.
>>> 
>>> The spring was simply a Dock representation of a shortcut to a web page.
>> 
>> And has been replaced by a globe of the Earth showing the Western
>> Hemisphere.
>
> On Mavericks (my OS) if you drag a web address straight to the Dock you 
> still get a spring.

As Michelle said, in Yosemite, it's now a globe:

<http://jollyroger.kicks-ass.org/yosemite_dock_shortcut.png>

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JR

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#69977

FromDon Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
Date2015-02-19 18:22 -0800
Message-ID<mc65ke$li7$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#69972
In article <54e69051$0$32456$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com>,
 Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <200220151324090386%YourName@YourISP.com>,
>  Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> 
> > Apple has / does install their own "bloatware" though ... things like
> > Garageband, Dashboard, that silly "@" on a spring icon, etc. that few
> > people actually use / interested in, or in some cases don't even know
> > exists.
> 
> What was the thing on the spring? I've honestly never ever understood 
> Dashboard. Some people use Garbageband, I guess.

If I'm thinking of the same thing he is, the "@-on-a-spring" is a 
way-too-complex-to-bother-with way of opening up the current incarnation 
of Apple's "This is the latest version of Mac OS X" web page.

Dashboard was (at least IMO) a great idea that got so much junk loaded 
on top of it that it turned into shit.

-- 
Security provided by Mssrs Smith and/or Wesson. Brought to you by the letter Q

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#69980

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2015-02-19 21:39 -0500
Message-ID<190220152139273765%star@sky.net>
In reply to#69977
Don Bruder:
> Dashboard was (at least IMO) a great idea that got so much junk loaded 
> on top of it that it turned into s**t.

?? I can only assume that you don't know how to use Dashboard.
Dashboard is easily customizable to present only those widgets that the
user wants.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#70006

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-02-20 07:25 -0500
Message-ID<54e727bb$0$29532$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#69980
In article <190220152139273765%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
wrote:

> Don Bruder:
> > Dashboard was (at least IMO) a great idea that got so much junk loaded 
> > on top of it that it turned into s**t.
> 
> ?? I can only assume that you don't know how to use Dashboard.
> Dashboard is easily customizable to present only those widgets that the
> user wants.

That's very true, and I played with it, but I could still never find a 
use for it.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#70042

From"John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net>
Date2015-02-21 03:34 +0000
Message-ID<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-l51md0d31vjd@localhost>
In reply to#70006
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:25:31 UTC, Warren Oates 
<warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <190220152139273765%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Don Bruder:
> > > Dashboard was (at least IMO) a great idea that got so much junk loaded 
> > > on top of it that it turned into s**t.
> > 
> > ?? I can only assume that you don't know how to use Dashboard.
> > Dashboard is easily customizable to present only those widgets that the
> > user wants.
> 
> That's very true, and I played with it, but I could still never find a 
> use for it.

There are a unit conversion widget, a currency conversion widget, 
and an airline flight tracker, all of which I use once in a while. 
If I were still traveling the way I once did I would use them a lot 
more.

-- 
John Varela

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#70046

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2015-02-21 18:21 +1300
Message-ID<210220151821321378%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#70042
In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-l51md0d31vjd@localhost>, John Varela
<newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:25:31 UTC, Warren Oates 
> <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <190220152139273765%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
> > wrote:
> > > Don Bruder:
> > > > 
> > > > Dashboard was (at least IMO) a great idea that got so much junk loaded 
> > > > on top of it that it turned into s**t.
> > > 
> > > ?? I can only assume that you don't know how to use Dashboard.
> > > Dashboard is easily customizable to present only those widgets that the
> > > user wants.
> > 
> > That's very true, and I played with it, but I could still never find a 
> > use for it.
> 
> There are a unit conversion widget, a currency conversion widget, 
> and an airline flight tracker, all of which I use once in a while.

There's an app for that.  ;-)



> If I were still traveling the way I once did I would use them a lot 
> more.

That was another problem with Dashboard ... many of the Widgets are
US-centric making them completely useless for those outside America.
The same thing still happens now with many iOS apps.

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#70051

FromAlan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
Date2015-02-21 01:16 -0800
Message-ID<mc9idf$820$1@news.datemas.de>
In reply to#70046
On 2015-02-21 05:21:32 +0000, Your Name said:

> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-l51md0d31vjd@localhost>, John Varela
> <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:25:31 UTC, Warren Oates
>> <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In article <190220152139273765%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Don Bruder:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dashboard was (at least IMO) a great idea that got so much junk loaded
>>>>> on top of it that it turned into s**t.
>>>> 
>>>> ?? I can only assume that you don't know how to use Dashboard.
>>>> Dashboard is easily customizable to present only those widgets that the
>>>> user wants.
>>> 
>>> That's very true, and I played with it, but I could still never find a
>>> use for it.
>> 
>> There are a unit conversion widget, a currency conversion widget,
>> and an airline flight tracker, all of which I use once in a while.
> 
> There's an app for that.  ;-)

I know! It's called "Dashboard"!

> 
> 
> 
>> If I were still traveling the way I once did I would use them a lot
>> more.
> 
> That was another problem with Dashboard ... many of the Widgets are
> US-centric making them completely useless for those outside America.
> The same thing still happens now with many iOS apps.

Examples?

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#70056

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-02-21 15:33 +0000
Message-ID<ckrmpgFl5d6U5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#70046
On 2015-02-21, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-l51md0d31vjd@localhost>, John Varela
><newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:25:31 UTC, Warren Oates 
>> <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In article <190220152139273765%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
>> > wrote:
>> > > Don Bruder:
>> > > > 
>> > > > Dashboard was (at least IMO) a great idea that got so much junk loaded 
>> > > > on top of it that it turned into s**t.
>> > > 
>> > > ?? I can only assume that you don't know how to use Dashboard.
>> > > Dashboard is easily customizable to present only those widgets that the
>> > > user wants.
>> > 
>> > That's very true, and I played with it, but I could still never find a 
>> > use for it.
>> 
>> There are a unit conversion widget, a currency conversion widget, 
>> and an airline flight tracker, all of which I use once in a while.
>
> There's an app for that.  ;-)

Some people prefer to hit a key to access the widget in Dashboard
relatively quicker than launching an app to do the same thing. I am in
that group. The unit conversion widget is one of the few uses I have for
Dashboard, because it's quick and easy to use. I don't expect all Mac
users to use Dashboard, but I'm certainly glad I can use it. : )

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#70078

From"John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net>
Date2015-02-22 01:35 +0000
Message-ID<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-Wjv5nVUR2354@localhost>
In reply to#70046
On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 05:21:32 UTC, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> 
wrote:

> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-l51md0d31vjd@localhost>, John Varela
> <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:25:31 UTC, Warren Oates 
> > <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > In article <190220152139273765%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Don Bruder:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dashboard was (at least IMO) a great idea that got so much junk loaded 
> > > > > on top of it that it turned into s**t.
> > > > 
> > > > ?? I can only assume that you don't know how to use Dashboard.
> > > > Dashboard is easily customizable to present only those widgets that the
> > > > user wants.
> > > 
> > > That's very true, and I played with it, but I could still never find a 
> > > use for it.
> > 
> > There are a unit conversion widget, a currency conversion widget, 
> > and an airline flight tracker, all of which I use once in a while.
> 
> There's an app for that.  ;-)

Of course. But I can access the widget with a single button press.
 
> > If I were still traveling the way I once did I would use them a lot 
> > more.
> 
> That was another problem with Dashboard ... many of the Widgets are
> US-centric making them completely useless for those outside America.
> The same thing still happens now with many iOS apps.

If you want to convert millimeters to inches or dollars to pounds or
pounds to euros the widgets work equally well on either side of the 
pond. I don't know how well the air carrier tracker works on 
domestic flights outside the US because I've never had a reason to 
try it. I suspect not so well since there may not be a good source 
of timely position data outside the US and Eurocontrol.  

-- 
John Varela

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#70080

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2015-02-22 15:45 +1300
Message-ID<220220151545074336%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#70078
In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-Wjv5nVUR2354@localhost>, John Varela
<newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 05:21:32 UTC, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> 
> wrote:
> > In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-l51md0d31vjd@localhost>, John Varela
> > <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:25:31 UTC, Warren Oates 
> > > <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <190220152139273765%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Don Bruder:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Dashboard was (at least IMO) a great idea that got so much junk
> > > > > > loaded on top of it that it turned into s**t.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ?? I can only assume that you don't know how to use Dashboard.
> > > > > Dashboard is easily customizable to present only those widgets that
> > > > > the user wants.
> > > > 
> > > > That's very true, and I played with it, but I could still never find a 
> > > > use for it.
> > > 
> > > There are a unit conversion widget, a currency conversion widget, 
> > > and an airline flight tracker, all of which I use once in a while.
> > 
> > There's an app for that.  ;-)
> 
> Of course. But I can access the widget with a single button press.

It was a joke ... but you can access an app with a single button click
as well if you put its icon in the Dock.



> > > If I were still traveling the way I once did I would use them a lot 
> > > more.
> > 
> > That was another problem with Dashboard ... many of the Widgets are
> > US-centric making them completely useless for those outside America.
> > The same thing still happens now with many iOS apps.
> 
> If you want to convert millimeters to inches or dollars to pounds or
> pounds to euros the widgets work equally well on either side of the 
> pond. I don't know how well the air carrier tracker works on 
> domestic flights outside the US because I've never had a reason to 
> try it. I suspect not so well since there may not be a good source 
> of timely position data outside the US and Eurocontrol.

I didn't say "all". 

From memory (since I don't have Dashboard on this ancient Mac), there
was a Yellow Pages widget, as one example, which was completely useless
to anyone outside the USA.

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#70088

FromAlan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
Date2015-02-22 01:55 -0800
Message-ID<mcc924$cvv$1@news.datemas.de>
In reply to#70080
On 2015-02-22 02:45:07 +0000, Your Name said:

> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-Wjv5nVUR2354@localhost>, John Varela
> <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 05:21:32 UTC, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
>> wrote:
>>> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-l51md0d31vjd@localhost>, John Varela
>>> <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:25:31 UTC, Warren Oates
>>>> <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> In article <190220152139273765%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Don Bruder:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dashboard was (at least IMO) a great idea that got so much junk
>>>>>>> loaded on top of it that it turned into s**t.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ?? I can only assume that you don't know how to use Dashboard.
>>>>>> Dashboard is easily customizable to present only those widgets that
>>>>>> the user wants.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's very true, and I played with it, but I could still never find a
>>>>> use for it.
>>>> 
>>>> There are a unit conversion widget, a currency conversion widget,
>>>> and an airline flight tracker, all of which I use once in a while.
>>> 
>>> There's an app for that.  ;-)
>> 
>> Of course. But I can access the widget with a single button press.
> 
> It was a joke ... but you can access an app with a single button click
> as well if you put its icon in the Dock.
> 
> 
> 
>>>> If I were still traveling the way I once did I would use them a lot
>>>> more.
>>> 
>>> That was another problem with Dashboard ... many of the Widgets are
>>> US-centric making them completely useless for those outside America.
>>> The same thing still happens now with many iOS apps.
>> 
>> If you want to convert millimeters to inches or dollars to pounds or
>> pounds to euros the widgets work equally well on either side of the
>> pond. I don't know how well the air carrier tracker works on
>> domestic flights outside the US because I've never had a reason to
>> try it. I suspect not so well since there may not be a good source
>> of timely position data outside the US and Eurocontrol.
> 
> I didn't say "all".
> 
> From memory (since I don't have Dashboard on this ancient Mac), there
> was a Yellow Pages widget, as one example, which was completely useless
> to anyone outside the USA.

You're assuming that the same widget shipped on Macs bound for other markets...

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#70036

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2015-02-20 17:14 -0500
Message-ID<b6qdnXblorExLHrJnZ2dnUU7-UudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#69977
On 2015.02.19 21:22 , Don Bruder wrote:

> If I'm thinking of the same thing he is, the "@-on-a-spring" is a
> way-too-complex-to-bother-with way of opening up the current incarnation
> of Apple's "This is the latest version of Mac OS X" web page.

No idea what you're referring to.  Probably something seen in the past 
that I deemed not useful.

>
> Dashboard was (at least IMO) a great idea that got so much junk loaded
> on top of it that it turned into shit.

I've got 8 widgets there.  Over the years removed the cruft, downloaded 
and tried out some, rejected most, kept a few, removed those no longer 
wanted.

It's useful to me.


-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
                                   Benjamin Franklin

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