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| Started by | sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> |
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| First post | 2015-03-16 15:24 +0000 |
| Last post | 2015-03-20 03:42 +0000 |
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Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-16 15:24 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-16 11:29 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 15:39 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-16 15:57 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 16:21 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-17 08:23 +1200
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-17 12:34 +1300
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-17 11:32 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 11:05 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-16 21:26 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 21:46 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 11:04 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 14:05 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 12:04 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 15:07 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-17 11:38 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:34 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-18 07:48 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-16 18:45 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-16 09:07 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comte <electrc-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-16 09:00 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 16:22 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-16 09:37 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2015-03-16 09:45 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-16 09:55 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-16 14:03 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 10:58 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 14:05 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 12:02 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 15:07 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-18 00:55 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 16:47 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 10:54 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 14:05 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 12:01 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-18 00:53 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:26 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-18 00:51 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-18 11:11 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-16 12:06 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 19:30 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 10:51 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-17 11:36 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-17 16:14 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 16:24 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-17 17:41 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:01 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-17 21:52 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 23:06 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 19:14 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-18 00:06 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 20:17 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-17 23:16 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 23:47 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 19:51 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-18 00:01 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-18 00:05 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-18 00:04 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-17 22:35 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 23:12 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-17 17:52 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 14:05 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:31 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 12:07 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 15:08 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Raymond Wiker <rwiker@gmail.com> - 2015-03-17 21:18 +0100
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 16:20 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Raymond Wiker <rwiker@gmail.com> - 2015-03-17 21:23 +0100
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 23:05 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 21:59 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-19 13:47 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-17 12:28 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-18 00:01 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 21:56 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-19 13:44 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 22:01 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-19 01:07 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-19 13:48 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 21:31 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 12:45 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-17 17:37 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 18:59 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-17 21:59 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-17 22:34 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 23:12 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 23:11 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-18 00:14 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-18 00:24 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-17 22:33 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 10:44 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 14:05 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 11:55 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 15:07 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 21:53 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-19 01:07 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-18 22:09 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:38 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 21:41 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-19 13:42 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-18 00:13 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 21:40 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-18 22:05 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-19 10:18 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:13 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Raymond Wiker <rwiker@gmail.com> - 2015-03-17 21:14 +0100
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 23:04 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 21:33 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-19 13:41 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 21:20 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-19 13:37 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-17 12:09 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-17 21:42 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-17 22:33 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-18 00:25 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-18 07:13 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 10:43 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 14:05 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 11:48 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 14:56 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-18 00:22 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-18 00:20 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-18 00:56 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-16 13:55 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-16 17:57 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-16 14:32 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-17 12:34 +1300
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-16 21:25 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-16 20:29 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-17 11:40 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 14:19 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-17 13:21 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-17 10:46 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-17 13:53 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:18 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-17 15:44 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:56 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-17 16:10 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-17 22:21 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-18 12:58 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-18 13:21 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-18 12:07 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-18 12:53 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-18 13:26 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-18 18:30 -0400
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-18 15:55 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-18 23:27 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-18 00:17 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:17 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-17 12:10 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-19 02:40 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-19 13:36 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-19 13:51 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-19 17:08 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-19 17:39 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-03-19 17:00 -0700
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-20 03:39 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-20 00:44 +0000
Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-20 03:42 +0000
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| From | Electric Comte <electrc-comet@mail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-03-16 09:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <me6uln$6ap$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71255 |
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 15:24:42 +0000 (UTC) sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > Since OSX is Unix based, why doesn't Apple continually update the > kernel instead of outdating hardware and software? Linux continues > to update the kernel to keep hardware/software current. I am going > to buy an iMac, but the variety of dates, mid-2010, late 2009, early > 2011, is very confusing. The hardware specs are very good, but it > seems like features are being outdated with constant updates to OSX. > Wouldn't kernel updates keep more hardware current with the latest > OSX? People who are in the "walled in garden of Apple" would still > buy the latest stuff, but for people who want a good used iMac, could > be more assured that buying an iMac would last longer and be more > useful. I have heard that linux runs well on aapl hardware, you don't say if that's an option for you I think yosemite runs on those imacs you mention with no problems
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-16 16:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cmoeb0FovbvU8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71263 |
On 2015-03-16, Electric Comte <electrc-comet@mail.invalid> wrote: > > I have heard that linux runs well on aapl hardware, you don't say > if that's an option for you Not much need to run Linux when OS X is Unix at the corei, is gnerally more problem-free and easier to use than Linux distributions, and most *nix software compiles and runs fine on OS X. > I think yosemite runs on those imacs you mention with no problems Yep. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-03-16 09:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <me70r8$6ap$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71267 |
On 16 Mar 2015 16:22:56 GMT Ye olde AAPL kool-aid guzzler Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > Not much need to run Linux when OS X is Unix at the corei, is gnerally Ha, so you are a prognosticator, the OP never stated their need > more problem-free and easier to use than Linux distributions, and most nowadays this comparison is not true the big difference in linux vs. macosx is that linux can be configured to individual tastes to a finer degree than macosx that finer degree would include easily modifying the source of any app you use on linux
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| From | isw <isw@witzend.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-16 09:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <isw-94D083.09452716032015@news-roam.garlic.com> |
| In reply to | #71271 |
In article <me70r8$6ap$6@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote: > On 16 Mar 2015 16:22:56 GMT > Ye olde AAPL kool-aid guzzler Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > > Not much need to run Linux when OS X is Unix at the corei, is gnerally > > Ha, so you are a prognosticator, the OP never stated their need > > > more problem-free and easier to use than Linux distributions, and most > > nowadays this comparison is not true > > the big difference in linux vs. macosx is that linux can be > configured to individual tastes to a finer degree than macosx Provided that you are in the rather small group of individuals who have the skill and willingness to do that. > that finer degree would include easily modifying the source of any > app you use on linux Ditto, but even moreso. What percentage of Mac (and include Windows if you like) users do you suppose have ever even *used* a compiler, much less know how to actually modify source code and get it running? Isaac
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| From | Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-03-16 09:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <me71te$6ap$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71272 |
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 09:45:27 -0700 isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote: > Provided that you are in the rather small group of individuals who > have the skill and willingness to do that. > > > that finer degree would include easily modifying the source of any > > app you use on linux > > Ditto, but even moreso. What percentage of Mac (and include Windows > if you like) users do you suppose have ever even *used* a compiler, > much less know how to actually modify source code and get it running? You relaize you're supporting my claim that the comparison doesn't apply nowadays, or at least now you do if you sit someone down in front of a mac or linux they login and use the web and maybe spreadsheet or doc editor and media maybe email app but a lot use web email so it's a wash because as you say most stick to the basics and modifying source is inconceivable for them the upside goes to linux just because of the finer degree of configuration and not just in modifying source but editing config files to change default behaviour and sometimes the degree is nauseating but it's there if you have want/need
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-03-16 14:03 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <G5idnYt3vsBBh5rInZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #71276 |
On 2015-03-16 12:55, Electric Comet wrote: > the upside goes to linux just because of the finer degree of configuration > and not just in modifying source but editing config files to change > default behaviour and sometimes the degree is nauseating but it's > there if you have want/need Linux was not designed to be a desktop environment. Just look at all the shitty distros that keep moving the deck chairs w/o improving anything substantial. Linux whether veneered in KDE or Gnome or any of the other varnishes, universally blow. Linux is fantastic in databases, servers, communications (internet and other), controllers, widgets and so on and so forth. It just blows for common people oriented tasks. Further, the heavyweights of the user environment ignore Linux (Adobe, Microsoft, etc.). So creatives and office workers avoid it (or the IT people avoid it for them as they don't want the headaches).
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| From | Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-03-17 10:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <me9pvl$ce2$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71291 |
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:03:08 -0400 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > Linux was not designed to be a desktop environment. Just look at all Non-sequitar > Linux is fantastic in databases, servers, communications (internet > and other), controllers, widgets and so on and so forth. It just > blows for common people oriented tasks. Non-sense > > Further, the heavyweights of the user environment ignore Linux > (Adobe, Microsoft, etc.). So creatives and office workers avoid it > (or the IT people avoid it for them as they don't want the headaches). Microsoft is a heavyweight? Adobe? what would M$ bring to linux? your assertions don't really reflect reality a lot of companies don't see the desktop linux market as big enough but some companies do not have the luxury of eliminating market spaces from their targets
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-03-17 14:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <170320151405513468%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #71373 |
In article <me9pvl$ce2$5@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote: > > Further, the heavyweights of the user environment ignore Linux > > (Adobe, Microsoft, etc.). So creatives and office workers avoid it > > (or the IT people avoid it for them as they don't want the headaches). > > Microsoft is a heavyweight? Adobe? > what would M$ bring to linux? apps that don't suck. openoffice is not fully compatible with microsoft office and there is nothing that comes close to adobe photoshop or lightroom.
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| From | Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-03-17 12:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <me9tni$ce2$17@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71379 |
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 14:05:51 -0400 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > apps that don't suck. examples? > openoffice is not fully compatible with microsoft office and there is > nothing that comes close to adobe photoshop or lightroom. How do you know? You're just chanting aapl-isms
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-03-17 15:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <170320151507456313%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #71397 |
In article <me9tni$ce2$17@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote: > > openoffice is not fully compatible with microsoft office and there is > > nothing that comes close to adobe photoshop or lightroom. > > How do you know? You're just chanting aapl-isms because i've used all the relevant apps.
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-18 00:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mebb12$ibm$2@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #71373 |
On 2015-03-17 17:58:39 +0000, Electric Comet said: > On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:03:08 -0400 > Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > >> Linux was not designed to be a desktop environment. Just look at all > > Non-sequitar The phrase you're groping for is "non sequitur": two separate latin words meaning "it doesn't follow". > >> Linux is fantastic in databases, servers, communications (internet >> and other), controllers, widgets and so on and so forth. It just >> blows for common people oriented tasks. > > Non-sense Sorry, but almost ever person using personal computers agrees with his statement, not yours. > >> >> Further, the heavyweights of the user environment ignore Linux >> (Adobe, Microsoft, etc.). So creatives and office workers avoid it >> (or the IT people avoid it for them as they don't want the headaches). > > Microsoft is a heavyweight? Adobe? Yup. > what would M$ bring to linux? > > your assertions don't really reflect reality They don't "reflect" reality, but they do accord with it. > > a lot of companies don't see the desktop linux market as big enough > but some companies do not have the luxury of eliminating market spaces > from their targets Companies such as... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-16 16:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cmofovFr1flU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71271 |
On 2015-03-16, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote: > On 16 Mar 2015 16:22:56 GMT > Ye olde AAPL kool-aid guzzler Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> Not much need to run Linux when OS X is Unix at the corei, is gnerally > > Ha, so you are a prognosticator, the OP never stated their need Nope, just stating my opinion as a veteran Linux user and software developer. >> more problem-free and easier to use than Linux distributions, and most > > nowadays this comparison is not true Yes, it is. > the big difference in linux vs. macosx is that linux can be > configured to individual tastes to a finer degree than macosx Nope. OS X is more usable in general. There are also fewer problems, fewer compatibility issues, and the problems that do exist are more easily solved or worked around than in Linux systems. > that finer degree would include easily modifying the source of any > app you use on linux You can modify any open source in OS X as well - and there is a lot. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-03-17 10:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <me9po3$ce2$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71274 |
On 16 Mar 2015 16:47:27 GMT Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > Nope. OS X is more usable in general. There are also fewer problems, > fewer compatibility issues, and the problems that do exist are more > easily solved or worked around than in Linux systems. Name some compatibility issues please > > > that finer degree would include easily modifying the source of any > > app you use on linux > > You can modify any open source in OS X as well - and there is a lot. Duh But can I modify preview to change the defaults No app defaults hardcoded is more like aapl steering people away from using it to some other app or trying to reduce support issues in macosx by making all the core apps static Does aapl make a graphics app for sale?
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-03-17 14:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <170320151405503416%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #71370 |
In article <me9po3$ce2$4@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote: > > Nope. OS X is more usable in general. There are also fewer problems, > > fewer compatibility issues, and the problems that do exist are more > > easily solved or worked around than in Linux systems. > > Name some compatibility issues please ios device support. > > > that finer degree would include easily modifying the source of any > > > app you use on linux > > > > You can modify any open source in OS X as well - and there is a lot. > > Duh > But can I modify preview to change the defaults > No > app defaults hardcoded is more like aapl steering people away > from using it to some other app or trying to reduce support > issues in macosx by making all the core apps static one app. nothing is perfect. write your own app to do whatever you want, just like you would have to do in linux. > Does aapl make a graphics app for sale? no. there are many, many exceptional third party graphics apps so there's no need for them to bother. note that none of those run on linux nor will they ever.
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| From | Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-03-17 12:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <me9tl8$ce2$16@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71378 |
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 14:05:50 -0400 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > ios device support. Haha, well thank for that, this is a compatibility issue that is managed by aapl > one app. nothing is perfect. write your own app to do whatever you Far as I know most apps have default behaviors that cannot be changed although the mail program does let you change some things but that is more due to historic reasons and the fact that aapl had to work with mail "standards". > no. so then begs the question of why not let the user modify default settings > there are many, many exceptional third party graphics apps so there's > no need for them to bother. plus it throws a bone to ISVs > note that none of those run on linux nor will they ever. Of course you don't know but just lashing out you don't need to but if you must
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-18 00:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mebata$ibm$1@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #71396 |
On 2015-03-17 19:01:21 +0000, Electric Comet said: > On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 14:05:50 -0400 > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> ios device support. > > Haha, well thank for that, this is a compatibility issue that is > managed by aapl > >> one app. nothing is perfect. write your own app to do whatever you > > Far as I know most apps have default behaviors that cannot be changed > although the mail program does let you change some things but that > is more due to historic reasons and the fact that aapl had to > work with mail "standards". Give an example of this... > >> no. > > so then begs the question of why not let the user modify default > settings Because real software design is making choices and not just saying "let the user decide everything". > > > there are many, many exceptional third party graphics apps so there's >> no need for them to bother. > > plus it throws a bone to ISVs > >> note that none of those run on linux nor will they ever. > > Of course you don't know but just lashing out > you don't need to but if you must > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you change the defaults of your undoubtedly open-source Linux-based newsclient to remove all the blank lines at the end of your posts?
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-17 19:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cmrdeeFjeu5U6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71370 |
On 2015-03-17, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote: > On 16 Mar 2015 16:47:27 GMT > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> Nope. OS X is more usable in general. There are also fewer problems, >> fewer compatibility issues, and the problems that do exist are more >> easily solved or worked around than in Linux systems. > > Name some compatibility issues please Many more than I care to list. I don't need to prove anything to you. I have had enough years of direct experience with Linux and OS X to know the difference. >> > that finer degree would include easily modifying the source of any >> > app you use on linux >> >> You can modify any open source in OS X as well - and there is a lot. > > Duh > But can I modify preview to change the defaults > No Just as with any closed source software, which, BTW, exists in Linux as well as Windows, and just about every other platform out there. OS X is no different. > app defaults hardcoded is more like aapl steering people away > from using it to some other app or trying to reduce support > issues in macosx by making all the core apps static That's a pretty silly statement. Preview is a closed source preview application that happens to have very basic editing support. If you dislike they way it works, nobody is stopping you from using something else. Stop bitching and moaning and do what your wonderful Linux operating system mandates of its users: tinker with other (even open source) software until you figure out a better way for yourself. Several alternatives have been mentioned in this thread that you might try. Or just shut up and deal with it. > Does aapl make a graphics app for sale? AAPL is a stock symbol, and stock symbols don't make any software. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-18 00:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mebaq4$i6o$1@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #71370 |
On 2015-03-17 17:54:36 +0000, Electric Comet said: > On 16 Mar 2015 16:47:27 GMT > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> Nope. OS X is more usable in general. There are also fewer problems, >> fewer compatibility issues, and the problems that do exist are more >> easily solved or worked around than in Linux systems. > > Name some compatibility issues please > >> >>> that finer degree would include easily modifying the source of any >>> app you use on linux >> >> You can modify any open source in OS X as well - and there is a lot. > > Duh > But can I modify preview to change the defaults > No > app defaults hardcoded is more like aapl steering people away > from using it to some other app or trying to reduce support > issues in macosx by making all the core apps static > > Does aapl make a graphics app for sale? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you really be this stupid? For instance, is it your marvelous open-source, Linux software that's adding all the blank lines at the end of your posts?
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| From | John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-18 11:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mecf38$oap$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71478 |
On 3/18/15 PDT 12:51 AM, Alan Baker wrote: > On 2015-03-17 17:54:36 +0000, Electric Comet said: > > Can you really be this stupid? > > For instance, is it your marvelous open-source, Linux software that's > adding all the blank lines at the end of your posts? It'd be a small public service to trim.
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-16 12:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <me79ka$m9g$1@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #71271 |
On 2015-03-16 16:37:26 +0000, Electric Comet said: > On 16 Mar 2015 16:22:56 GMT > Ye olde AAPL kool-aid guzzler Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> Not much need to run Linux when OS X is Unix at the corei, is gnerally > > Ha, so you are a prognosticator, the OP never stated their need > >> more problem-free and easier to use than Linux distributions, and most > > nowadays this comparison is not true > > the big difference in linux vs. macosx is that linux can be > configured to individual tastes to a finer degree than macosx > > that finer degree would include easily modifying the source of any > app you use on linux And... ...how many people have shown an interest in EVER wanting to do that?
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