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| Started by | Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> |
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| First post | 2014-06-03 16:52 +0000 |
| Last post | 2014-06-03 16:58 +0000 |
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Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-03 16:52 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-06-03 12:56 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 19:35 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-04 16:15 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-05 08:36 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-04 19:25 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 15:05 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 03:47 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-05 17:45 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-05 20:06 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-05 20:09 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 15:25 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-07 10:58 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-07 08:38 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-08 09:41 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 15:55 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-07 23:10 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-06 08:28 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 02:14 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-07 02:54 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 15:34 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-05 17:38 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 16:03 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 08:25 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 16:32 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-08 16:05 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 17:00 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-09 13:49 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 21:27 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-09 15:46 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-09 00:56 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-09 18:39 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-09 06:17 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 16:58 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-09 11:02 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-10 09:49 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-09 18:47 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-10 14:07 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-10 02:17 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-10 02:03 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-10 07:23 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-10 22:28 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 17:21 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-10 18:09 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-11 17:17 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-11 15:00 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 17:30 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 22:22 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 17:33 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-12 10:23 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-09 20:39 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-10 07:21 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-11 08:51 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 16:37 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-09 20:34 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Kaltsas, Alexander <macdude22@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-10 08:27 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-10 14:49 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Kaltsas, Alexander <macdude22@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-10 14:20 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-10 22:25 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 05:20 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 16:53 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 17:48 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 08:48 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:17 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 17:17 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 19:58 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 22:29 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 12:09 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-08 19:34 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 19:59 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 20:03 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 12:47 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 17:00 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:30 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 02:39 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 18:14 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-09 13:59 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 16:35 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 18:53 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 15:58 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 18:15 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-09 14:52 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-10 11:11 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 16:06 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-10 18:43 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 12:55 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 16:14 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 17:05 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 05:16 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 16:05 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 18:32 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 16:18 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-10 18:40 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-11 15:46 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 17:02 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 16:26 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-10 10:09 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Kaltsas, Alexander <macdude22@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-10 12:13 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-10 10:46 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-11 15:55 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-10 18:25 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 19:56 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-10 21:53 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-11 09:27 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 19:29 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-11 16:10 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 12:08 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 19:28 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 16:53 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 17:04 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 19:26 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:02 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 22:29 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:50 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 22:55 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 16:54 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 12:47 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:33 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:35 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 19:57 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 22:29 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 18:11 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 20:31 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 17:16 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 18:48 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 17:25 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 19:39 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-09 15:49 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 22:06 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 17:53 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-10 19:59 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 22:40 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-10 07:20 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 17:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Kaltsas, Alexander <macdude22@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-10 12:48 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:39 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:53 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-10 22:38 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-11 19:35 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-11 17:39 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-11 13:42 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-11 18:09 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-12 20:24 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-11 09:33 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 02:43 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-11 03:05 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 03:47 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-11 16:55 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-11 17:23 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 19:30 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-12 00:22 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-12 00:46 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 19:26 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 17:28 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:24 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-10 22:32 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 17:29 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2014-06-11 16:35 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-11 22:40 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-12 03:42 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-12 19:47 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-12 18:28 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-12 22:11 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 17:37 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-11 23:11 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-11 22:44 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-11 17:18 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-12 14:36 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-12 02:44 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-12 19:44 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-12 16:04 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-13 09:40 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-13 09:10 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-13 17:26 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 12:51 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-14 11:13 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 15:24 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-14 14:13 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 19:47 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-14 18:24 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 20:55 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-14 19:25 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 23:03 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-14 23:43 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 18:09 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 17:02 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 18:52 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-14 19:04 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 21:45 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-14 23:00 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 00:03 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-14 23:01 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 04:24 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-15 00:38 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 16:18 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-15 18:28 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 18:02 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 17:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-15 12:25 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-11 20:33 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-12 02:34 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-12 00:47 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-11 09:34 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-12 20:24 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-12 18:51 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-13 00:14 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-13 02:44 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-13 18:04 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-13 14:16 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-13 13:49 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-13 19:21 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 12:51 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-14 02:18 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 15:24 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-14 04:44 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 19:47 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-14 15:17 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 19:53 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-15 12:25 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 19:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-16 15:19 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-16 17:04 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-16 18:11 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-16 17:19 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-16 17:28 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 17:46 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 17:29 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-17 09:12 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-16 17:39 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-17 16:45 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-17 09:12 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-14 07:49 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-13 22:01 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-14 09:12 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 11:54 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-14 15:04 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 14:13 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-14 15:35 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 15:31 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-14 17:42 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 16:54 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-14 18:06 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 18:01 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 10:33 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 18:57 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 18:39 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 10:40 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 00:57 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 12:56 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 04:37 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 16:15 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 07:48 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 19:30 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 10:05 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 18:39 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 10:30 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-16 15:51 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-17 08:11 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-17 13:53 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-18 09:10 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-18 00:06 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-18 10:27 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-18 01:02 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-18 17:15 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-18 08:00 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-18 19:29 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-18 13:11 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-18 23:34 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-19 10:51 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-19 21:31 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-19 21:08 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-20 12:02 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-21 15:00 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-22 08:53 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-18 12:12 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-18 23:09 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-18 18:38 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-19 08:37 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 10:35 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 07:55 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 22:07 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 13:46 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 10:12 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 05:34 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 17:51 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 15:10 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-16 15:18 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 07:33 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 23:03 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 17:34 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 10:21 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 10:16 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 07:44 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-15 09:31 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 09:51 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-15 13:17 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 13:49 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 19:19 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 09:59 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 08:09 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 23:17 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 10:47 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 10:10 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 20:36 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 15:45 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-16 12:22 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 15:46 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 19:43 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 21:53 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 10:00 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 07:42 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 18:27 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 09:43 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 19:59 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 19:29 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-13 18:17 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 02:14 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 15:24 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 11:55 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 19:13 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-14 07:47 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 19:22 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-16 17:09 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 18:49 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-14 19:01 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-15 07:27 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 19:28 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-16 17:08 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-14 02:36 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 09:32 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 16:27 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 12:51 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:15 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:32 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 15:44 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 18:30 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:53 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-09 16:13 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-10 08:03 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-10 07:56 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 16:58 +0000
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2014-06-16 15:19 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1lnca2m.7xd2nrxc45uhN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #60997 |
Darrin Doc O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote: > For your reference, records indicate that > jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote: > > > Heady dreams such as the more realistic less-financially motivated (and > > certainly not for everyone) part time hobby approaches I've mentioned, > > and you ignore when you claim I've mentioned no alternative paths > > forward? > > If you really believe that is the way to go, GO DO IT THAT WAY. I look > forward to seeing your results. Until then, though, don't presume you > can tell me that it is in any way a "realistic" way to accomplish what > I have outlined. Or just keep sitting on the sideline and use MacSOUP > until the day it goes the way of MT-NW because yet another developer > dropped it in favor of another "hobby". > > > It is the others you mention who have tried to point out more grounded, > > more likely to succeed approaches. > > Again, your definition of success/failure is not rational in this > context. As much as you expect me to work for nothing, I'm telling you > flatly that that is *not* going to happen. Even $20K for the effort > involved is a big discount. There is no "success" in lowering the > price further. If you can't process this simple fact, we have nothing > to left to discuss. You keep ignoring that I've been crystal clear in multiple posts that I don't expect many would take on such a project for uncertain and minor financial rewards, at best. That changes nothing though: you've set yourself up for certain failure, and you cannot seem to process that while you might not want to take another approach (and certainly you don't have to - no one so far as I see, is telling you what you must do), your current strategy is doomed, not least of which because of your inflexibility. Hell, you won't even put out free PR! Just crazy... -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-16 17:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lnn82o$gqq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #61008 |
For your reference, records indicate that jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote: > You keep ignoring that I've been crystal clear in multiple posts that I > don't expect many would take on such a project for uncertain and minor > financial rewards, at best. No, I’m just baffled that you keep saying it while trying to label it as a realistic option. Have you considered the simple possibility that there really is *no* realistic way to drive innovation in Usenet software? That’s certainly my null hypothesis, and Signal is my investment in testing that. If you have some other *workable* method, offer it, because I don’t see any point in your beating the horse you know to be dead. > That changes nothing though: you've set yourself up for certain failure, > and you cannot seem to process that while you might not want to take > another approach (and certainly you don't have to - no one so far as I > see, is telling you what you must do), your current strategy is doomed, > not least of which because of your inflexibility. Hell, you won't even > put out free PR! > > Just crazy... I will do what works. Past evidence has not show undirected PR to work. If you have a better method, *offer it*. Stop trying to tell me that *I* must do more, or that *I* must charge less, or that *I* have set myself up for failure. You clearly *still* have no idea the fullness of what I’m doing, despite my having told you directly many times. So, again, if you want an outcome that is different than what you say is inevitable, tell me what *you* are willing to do to change it. -- dn ƃuᴉʞool ǝɹɐ sƃuᴉɥʇ
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2014-06-16 18:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <160620141811375137%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #61027 |
In article <lnn82o$gqq$1@dont-email.me>, Doc <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote: > For your reference, records indicate that > jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote: > > > You keep ignoring that I've been crystal clear in multiple posts that I > > don't expect many would take on such a project for uncertain and minor > > financial rewards, at best. > > No, I’m just baffled that you keep saying it while trying to label it as > a realistic option. Have you considered the simple possibility that > there really is *no* realistic way to drive innovation in Usenet software? > That’s certainly my null hypothesis, and Signal is my investment in > testing that. If you have some other *workable* method, offer it, because > I don’t see any point in your beating the horse you know to be dead. > > > That changes nothing though: you've set yourself up for certain failure, > > and you cannot seem to process that while you might not want to take > > another approach (and certainly you don't have to - no one so far as I > > see, is telling you what you must do), your current strategy is doomed, > > not least of which because of your inflexibility. Hell, you won't even > > put out free PR! > > > > Just crazy... > > I will do what works. Past evidence has not show undirected PR to work. > If you have a better method, *offer it*. Stop trying to tell me that *I* > must do more, or that *I* must charge less, or that *I* have set myself > up for failure. You clearly *still* have no idea the fullness of what > I’m doing, despite my having told you directly many times. So, again, > if you want an outcome that is different than what you say is inevitable, > tell me what *you* are willing to do to change it. He, and sandman, and billy-boy, and the Canadian geezer whose name escapes me at the mo, are willing to do *bugger* *all* about it, except carp and express bafflement that you are unwilling to do the job for nothing, on account of having bills to pay. All they are prepared to do is jibber from the sidelines like monkeys. Action? Fuck me no, that's too much like hard work. Put some money where their mouths are - even with the certainty that they get it back if the funding effort doesn't reach a target? Fuck me no. Newsreaders should be free with unlimited support - or perhaps £1.99 if you're lucky. -- "The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place." - Douglas Adams
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-16 17:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <c08n9gFqecnU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61028 |
On 2014-06-16, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > > He, and sandman, and billy-boy, and the Canadian geezer whose name > escapes me at the mo, are willing to do *bugger* *all* about it, except > carp and express bafflement that you are unwilling to do the job for > nothing, on account of having bills to pay. > > All they are prepared to do is jibber from the sidelines like monkeys. > Action? Fuck me no, that's too much like hard work. Put some money > where their mouths are - even with the certainty that they get it back > if the funding effort doesn't reach a target? Fuck me no. Newsreaders > should be free with unlimited support - or perhaps £1.99 if you're > lucky. +1 -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | billy@MIX.COM |
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| Date | 2014-06-16 17:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lnn9fs$d50$2@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #61031 |
In comp.sys.mac.system Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote,
quoting Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>:
> > He, and sandman, and billy-boy, and the Canadian geezer whose name
> > escapes me at the mo, are willing to do *bugger* *all* about it, except
> > carp and express bafflement that you are unwilling to do the job for
> > nothing, on account of having bills to pay.
> >
> > All they are prepared to do is jibber from the sidelines like monkeys.
> > Action? Fuck me no, that's too much like hard work. Put some money
> > where their mouths are - even with the certainty that they get it back
> > if the funding effort doesn't reach a target? Fuck me no. Newsreaders
> > should be free with unlimited support - or perhaps £1.99 if you're
> > lucky.
>
> +1
-1
Mr Streater is, at least in my case (I will only speak for myself),
thoroughly confused some helpful suggestions with not tossing some
money at something I not only do not want, but do not need.
Speaking of bickering about irrelevant bullshit.
Billy Y..
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-16 17:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <539f65c7$0$32764$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #61032 |
In article <lnn9fs$d50$2@reader2.panix.com>, billy@MIX.COM wrote: > In comp.sys.mac.system Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote, > quoting Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>: > > > > He, and sandman, and billy-boy, and the Canadian geezer whose name > > > escapes me at the mo, are willing to do *bugger* *all* about it, except > > > carp and express bafflement that you are unwilling to do the job for > > > nothing, on account of having bills to pay. > > > > > > All they are prepared to do is jibber from the sidelines like monkeys. > > > Action? Fuck me no, that's too much like hard work. Put some money > > > where their mouths are - even with the certainty that they get it back > > > if the funding effort doesn't reach a target? Fuck me no. Newsreaders > > > should be free with unlimited support - or perhaps �1.99 if you're > > > lucky. > > > > +1 > > -1 > > Mr Streater is, at least in my case (I will only speak for myself), > thoroughly confused some helpful suggestions with not tossing some > money at something I not only do not want, but do not need. > > Speaking of bickering about irrelevant bullshit. > > Billy Y.. Indeed. I have a newsreader. If I want to deal with one "maintained" by an asshole, I'll download Thoth. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2014-06-16 17:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlpuakd.jj1.mr@irc.sandman.net> |
| In reply to | #61028 |
In article <160620141811375137%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater wrote: > > Darrin "Doc" O'Leary: > > I will do what works. Past evidence has not show undirected PR to > > work. If you have a better method, *offer it*. Stop trying to > > tell me that *I* must do more, or that *I* must charge less, or > > that *I* have set myself up for failure. You clearly *still* have > > no idea the fullness of what I’m doing, despite my having told > > you directly many times. So, again, if you want an outcome that > > is different than what you say is inevitable, tell me what *you* > > are willing to do to change it. > > He, and sandman, and billy-boy, and the Canadian geezer whose name > escapes me at the mo, are willing to do *bugger* *all* about it, About Signal? Yes, that's correct. The project does not appeal to me so I won't do anything for it. As it turns out, the person handling the project turned out to be a really unpleasant person as well, which helped sway me from it. > except carp and express bafflement that you are unwilling to do the > job for nothing, on account of having bills to pay. I'll give you one million dollar if you can find a quote from me telling him he should do it for nothing. > All they are prepared to do is jibber from the sidelines like > monkeys. Action? Fuck me no, that's too much like hard work. You guys are incredible. I've said many times that I have no problem taking actions to achieve what I want. > Put some money where their mouths are I have done exactly that. My "mouth" has said that I want a new news reader and that Signal isn't matching my current desires, and my "money" is following that statement 100% by not funding Signal's development. You can't get much more consistent than that. > even with the certainty that they get it back if the funding effort > doesn't reach a target? Fuck me no. Newsreaders should be free with > unlimited support - or perhaps £1.99 if you're lucky. I'd pay $100 for a good news reader without blinking an eye. -- Sandman[.net]
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-06-17 09:12 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1lndnts.hg9k5nzhrmp3N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #61028 |
Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > In article <lnn82o$gqq$1@dont-email.me>, Doc > <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote: > > > For your reference, records indicate that > > jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote: > > > > > You keep ignoring that I've been crystal clear in multiple posts that I > > > don't expect many would take on such a project for uncertain and minor > > > financial rewards, at best. > > > > No, I'm just baffled that you keep saying it while trying to label it as > > a realistic option. Have you considered the simple possibility that > > there really is *no* realistic way to drive innovation in Usenet software? > > That's certainly my null hypothesis, and Signal is my investment in > > testing that. If you have some other *workable* method, offer it, because > > I don't see any point in your beating the horse you know to be dead. > > > > > That changes nothing though: you've set yourself up for certain failure, > > > and you cannot seem to process that while you might not want to take > > > another approach (and certainly you don't have to - no one so far as I > > > see, is telling you what you must do), your current strategy is doomed, > > > not least of which because of your inflexibility. Hell, you won't even > > > put out free PR! > > > > > > Just crazy... > > > > I will do what works. Past evidence has not show undirected PR to work. > > If you have a better method, *offer it*. Stop trying to tell me that *I* > > must do more, or that *I* must charge less, or that *I* have set myself > > up for failure. You clearly *still* have no idea the fullness of what > > I'm doing, despite my having told you directly many times. So, again, > > if you want an outcome that is different than what you say is inevitable, > > tell me what *you* are willing to do to change it. > > He, and sandman, and billy-boy, and the Canadian geezer whose name > escapes me at the mo, are willing to do *bugger* *all* about it, except > carp and express bafflement that you are unwilling to do the job for > nothing, on account of having bills to pay. > > All they are prepared to do is jibber from the sidelines like monkeys. > Action? Fuck me no, that's too much like hard work. Put some money > where their mouths are - even with the certainty that they get it back > if the funding effort doesn't reach a target? Fuck me no. Newsreaders > should be free with unlimited support - or perhaps £1.99 if you're > lucky. Thanks, but I paid a couple times over (to express thanks over the years) for MacSOUP. And I've paid for many a decently priced piece of shareware. Nor have I shied away from apps over, sometimes well over a few dollars on the iOS app store (if it's a good app, it's worth a decent price to me). I'm more than happy to have paid for well made apps that fill a need or want. Anyway - I wouldn't have put any money into Signal, even if it hadn't been setup to fail by Doc. He's made it clear that it's no MacSOUP replacement, so it's of little interest to me :-) Were I an MT-NW or Thoth afficionado I might've felt different (had it been a realistic project). -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-06-16 17:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <dcGdnVRDPdCR-QLOnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #61040 |
On 2014.06.16, 17:12 , Jamie Kahn Genet wrote: > (to express thanks over the > years) for MacSOUP. And I've paid for many a decently priced piece of > shareware. Nor have I shied away from apps over, sometimes well over a > few dollars on the iOS app store (if it's a good app, it's worth a > decent price to me). I've bought lot's of apps over the years for Windows, OS X, iOS and others for that matter. I don't mind paying. I donate when it's donation ware (for s/w I use regularly (say a dozen times per year)). That's the model I'd support for this project. Otherwise the selling points for the project are meaningless - I've never been prevented from reading, posting, filtering, etc. from usenet on any computer. But hell - saying so just gets you blasted around here. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-06-17 16:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lnprc5$s2k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #61028 |
For your reference, records indicate that Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > Action? Fuck me no, that's too much like hard work. Man, now you’ve gone and made me miss Steve Jobs some more. http://www.impossiblystupid.com/node/80 -- dn ƃuᴉʞool ǝɹɐ sƃuᴉɥʇ
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2014-06-17 09:12 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1lndmdw.z0pths1i9wgx9N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #61027 |
Darrin Doc O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote: > For your reference, records indicate that > jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote: > > > You keep ignoring that I've been crystal clear in multiple posts that I > > don't expect many would take on such a project for uncertain and minor > > financial rewards, at best. > > No, I'm just baffled that you keep saying it while trying to label it as > a realistic option. Have you considered the simple possibility that > there really is *no* realistic way to drive innovation in Usenet software? My saying repeatedly that I don't expect many would be willing to take on a hobby style project, with an uncertain promise of low rewards, for an app servicing a subset of an extreme niche market - is my take on that matter. If you consider a hobby project undertaken primarily for reasons other than monetary considerations to be unrealistic, due to your own financial constraints, or (completely understandably) unwillingness to work on such a project without what you consider appropriate financial reward, then I'd point you in the direction of many a lone developer or team of devs who have undertaken software development for fun or other personal and professional fulfillment. Do or do not undertake such a project on those or whatever terms :-) But when you come here and go on about how your way is the only reasonable way, and it's clear you're setting yourself up for certain failure, even more so than was initially apparent (we now know you've done next to no PR, for example), and you tear down other more realistic paths - even refusing to acknowledge they've been repeatedly mentioned in posts you reply to - well, what did you really expect? Especially when it's all to do with raising certain folk's hopes over the lack of a decent MT-NW/Thoth replacement in 10.9. You irritated some folk, pushed other's buttons when you raised hopes (the MT-NW and Thoth users left out in the cold, recently in 10.9/by the author pulling sales. Me: I still have my favourite client: MacSOUP, and Signal seemed unlikely to serve my needs, so I'm not so bothered in that regard), and then made it clear you were going for failure instead, and you wonder why you've not maybe had the warmest reception here, of late. Hmm... -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-14 07:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lpOdnXcXL9ArqwHOnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #60876 |
On 2014.06.13, 15:21 , Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2014-06-13, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote: >> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:16:23 -0400, Alan Browne >> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>> >>> On 2014.06.13, 14:04 , Darrin Doc O'Leary wrote: >>>> >>>> For your reference, records indicate that >>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'll pledge cash when he pledges skin in the game. >>>> >>>> What does that even mean in this context? >>> >>> That you take risk on yourself. That is you invest your time and do >>> such a bangup job that we'll all be willing to buy the product. You >>> don't even need to manage that part - toss it at the Apple Store. >> >> Alan, I am curious as to what you do for a living. Did you get your job >> by showing up somewhere and starting to work, hoping you'd do such a >> bangup job that they'd pay you? Did you stop working at some other job >> to do this, giving up half a year's income to do so? Did you have a >> mortgage to pay, a family to provide for, car payments, utilities, >> groceries to buy? Were *you* willing to take the chance that no one >> would pay you for your time and effort? >> >> 'Cuz all those things are what you're asking Doc to do so have "skin in >> the game." If you didn't have the balls to take that risk on yourself, >> then you have no standing to expect someone else to do it. >> >> It's easy to be an ass. Maybe you should set the bar higher for >> yourself. > > His entire argument so far is petty and weak. His is weaker. Here doggie, enjoy big bowl of food then we'll go hunting. Right. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2014-06-13 22:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlpmtem.7ib.mr@irc.sandman.net> |
| In reply to | #60875 |
In article <slrnlpmhtb.s6a.timmcn@sugaree.local>, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:16:23 -0400, Alan Browne > <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> >> On 2014.06.13, 14:04 , Darrin Doc O'Leary wrote: >>> >>> For your reference, records indicate that >>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> I'll pledge cash when he pledges skin in the game. >>> >>> What does that even mean in this context? >> >> That you take risk on yourself. That is you invest your time and do >> such a bangup job that we'll all be willing to buy the product. You >> don't even need to manage that part - toss it at the Apple Store. > > Alan, I am curious as to what you do for a living. Did you get your job > by showing up somewhere and starting to work, hoping you'd do such a > bangup job that they'd pay you? Did you stop working at some other job > to do this, giving up half a year's income to do so? Did you have a > mortgage to pay, a family to provide for, car payments, utilities, > groceries to buy? Were *you* willing to take the chance that no one > would pay you for your time and effort? Are we assuming here that Darrin's full-time job is development of this news client, then? There's a huge difference between "I need a plan to finance my life, my hobbies and my apartment" and "This may be a cool product, I wonder if anyone is interested in buying it?" > 'Cuz all those things are what you're asking Doc to do so have "skin in > the game." If you didn't have the balls to take that risk on yourself, > then you have no standing to expect someone else to do it. Talking as someone that develops software on the side of my professional work, I do so for *me*, and I make enough money on my regular job so that if I want to give a project away for free, I can. Is Darring unemployed and this money is for him to pay his mortage and buy bread to put on the table? > It's easy to be an ass. Maybe you should set the bar higher for > yourself. Darrin should also take note. -- Sandman[.net]
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| From | dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-14 09:12 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <do_ray_me-9E5D20.09121514062014@aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #60878 |
In article <slrnlpmtem.7ib.mr@irc.sandman.net>, Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote: > > In article <slrnlpmhtb.s6a.timmcn@sugaree.local>, Tim McNamara > <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote: > > > On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:16:23 -0400, Alan Browne > > <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >> > >> On 2014.06.13, 14:04 , Darrin Doc O'Leary wrote: > >>> > >>> For your reference, records indicate that > >>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I'll pledge cash when he pledges skin in the game. > >>> > >>> What does that even mean in this context? > >> > >> That you take risk on yourself. That is you invest your time and do > >> such a bangup job that we'll all be willing to buy the product. You > >> don't even need to manage that part - toss it at the Apple Store. > > > > Alan, I am curious as to what you do for a living. Did you get your job > > by showing up somewhere and starting to work, hoping you'd do such a > > bangup job that they'd pay you? Did you stop working at some other job > > to do this, giving up half a year's income to do so? Did you have a > > mortgage to pay, a family to provide for, car payments, utilities, > > groceries to buy? Were *you* willing to take the chance that no one > > would pay you for your time and effort? > > Are we assuming here that Darrin's full-time job is development of this > news client, then? No. The point being made by McNamara does not rely on this assumption. But you seem so consumed by personal vindictiveness that it has led you to misanalyse a whole lot of things. The OP does not at all appear to be any kind of asshole. Don't know about you though, maybe you are just another guy that is prone to burst into wild irrationality. There are many people who can walk the tightrope of rational thinking for a while but who *easily* - all you humans can do this from time to time - fall off somewhere along the line. -- dorayme
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2014-06-14 11:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlpoe8j.8r2.mr@irc.sandman.net> |
| In reply to | #60882 |
In article <do_ray_me-9E5D20.09121514062014@aioe.org>, dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >> That you take risk on yourself. That is you invest your time and do >> >> such a bangup job that we'll all be willing to buy the product. You >> >> don't even need to manage that part - toss it at the Apple Store. >> > >> > Alan, I am curious as to what you do for a living. Did you get your job >> > by showing up somewhere and starting to work, hoping you'd do such a >> > bangup job that they'd pay you? Did you stop working at some other job >> > to do this, giving up half a year's income to do so? Did you have a >> > mortgage to pay, a family to provide for, car payments, utilities, >> > groceries to buy? Were *you* willing to take the chance that no one >> > would pay you for your time and effort? >> >> Are we assuming here that Darrin's full-time job is development of this >> news client, then? > > No. The point being made by McNamara does not rely on this assumption. His point concerned what someone did for a living, comparing the situations. It sort of makes that a pretty logical assumption :) > But you seem so consumed by personal vindictiveness that it has led > you to misanalyse a whole lot of things. WTF??? What on *EARTH* are you basing this on?? Upon whom or what am I taking revenge? For what? > The OP does not at all appear to be any kind of asshole. I didn't think so either until he started telling me whether or not I wanted a new news reader or not, in spite of me being very clear from the very first post that I very much want a new newsreader. > Don't know about you though, maybe you are just another guy that is prone > to burst into wild irrationality. Since that hasn't happened at any point in this thread, I'm going to go ahead and assume you responded to the wrong person here. -- Sandman[.net]
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2014-06-14 15:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <140620141504092126%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #60906 |
In article <slrnlpoe8j.8r2.mr@irc.sandman.net>, Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote: > In article <do_ray_me-9E5D20.09121514062014@aioe.org>, dorayme > <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote: > > > Don't know about you though, maybe you are just another guy that is prone > > to burst into wild irrationality. > > Since that hasn't happened at any point in this thread, I'm going to go > ahead and assume you responded to the wrong person here. Yes it has. Doc said that, like a lot of people, you want something but appear to be unwilling to do anything to make it happen. You then accuse him of lying. I'd call that "wild irrationality". -- "Once you adopt the unix paradigm, the variants cease to be a problem - you bitch, of course, but that's because bitching is fun, unlike M$ OS's, where bitching is required to keep your head from exploding." - S Stremler in afc
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2014-06-14 14:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlpomd6.9ll.mr@irc.sandman.net> |
| In reply to | #60910 |
In article <140620141504092126%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >> > Don't know about you though, maybe you are just another guy that is prone >> > to burst into wild irrationality. >> >> Since that hasn't happened at any point in this thread, I'm going to go >> ahead and assume you responded to the wrong person here. > > Yes it has. Doc said that, like a lot of people, you want something but > appear to be unwilling to do anything to make it happen. That's the lie, yes. I am quite clearly willing to do something to make my wishes come true. The fact that the OP's project doesn't seem to satisfy what I want does not change this. He is basing his incorrect claim of what I want on the fact that I won't pledge on HIS project. > You then accuse him of lying. I'd call that "wild irrationality". No, when someone lies about someone else - calling them liar is very rational. I had given him ample information about both my needs and my readiness to support something that would satisfy them. Please reread what has been written. -- Sandman[.net]
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2014-06-14 15:35 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <140620141535214459%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #60912 |
In article <slrnlpomd6.9ll.mr@irc.sandman.net>, Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote: > In article <140620141504092126%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater > <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > > >> > Don't know about you though, maybe you are just another guy that is prone > >> > to burst into wild irrationality. > >> > >> Since that hasn't happened at any point in this thread, I'm going to go > >> ahead and assume you responded to the wrong person here. > > > > Yes it has. Doc said that, like a lot of people, you want something but > > appear to be unwilling to do anything to make it happen. > > That's the lie, yes. It's not a *lie*, it's *disagreement*, it's *opinion*. By calling it a lie, you're over-reacting - I'd call that "wild irrationality". -- "The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place." - Douglas Adams
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2014-06-14 15:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlpoqvq.9ll.mr@irc.sandman.net> |
| In reply to | #60914 |
In article <140620141535214459%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >> >> > Don't know about you though, maybe you are just another guy that is prone >> >> > to burst into wild irrationality. >> >> >> >> Since that hasn't happened at any point in this thread, I'm going to go >> >> ahead and assume you responded to the wrong person here. >> > >> > Yes it has. Doc said that, like a lot of people, you want something but >> > appear to be unwilling to do anything to make it happen. >> >> That's the lie, yes. > > It's not a *lie*, it's *disagreement*, it's *opinion*. > > By calling it a lie, you're over-reacting - I'd call that "wild > irrationality". No, because he didn't say that I *appear* to be unwilling, he said that I *was* unwilling, as a reply to a post of mine where I said the exact opposite. In short, he replied to a statement of mine saying that the exact opposite of that statement was true, when it isn't. That's lying. Doing it once is an honest mistake, but he repeated it at which point it becomes a deliberate misrepresentation, i.e. a lie. You seem unwilling to go back and see for yourself, so let me help you out here: Darrin "Doc" O'Leary Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal 06/11/2014 <lna09h$ukb$4@dont-email.me> "I do the same, but I also run a business that sees value in what *other* people need and use and want. Right now, I'm trying to see if they really want a new newsreader. Some do, some like you don't, and some people appear to have gone off the deep end." My reply: Sandman 06/12/2014 <slrnlpig98.tbg.mr@irc.sandman.net> "Huh? I very much want a new newsreader." That's me explicitly stating that I want a new newsreader. His reply: Darrin "Doc" O'Leary 06/12/2014 <lnclef$uc3$1@dont-email.me> "No, you don't." That's he claiming, twice, that I don't want a new newsreader, in spite of me clearly saying that I do. At that point, it's no longer a mistake or misunderstanding, it's an outright lie. -- Sandman[.net]
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2014-06-14 17:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <140620141742040671%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #60916 |
In article <slrnlpoqvq.9ll.mr@irc.sandman.net>, Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote: > In article <140620141535214459%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater > <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > Doing it once is an honest mistake, but he repeated it at which point it > becomes a deliberate misrepresentation, i.e. a lie. Rubbish. You don't know what the word means. > You seem unwilling to go back and see for yourself, so let me help you out > here: > Darrin "Doc" O'Leary > 06/12/2014 <lnclef$uc3$1@dont-email.me> > > "No, you don't." And I'd agree with him. > That's he claiming, twice, that I don't want a new newsreader, in spite of > me clearly saying that I do. People say a lot of things, and then it turns out that, when pressed, they back off. Doc was saying that if you want a new newsreader that much, how about you back that up with actions, not words. Any fool can say they might buy something in the future. > At that point, it's no longer a mistake or > misunderstanding, it's an outright lie. He's challenging your assertion. Nothing wrong with that. You remind me of one of my nieces who came to visit. She had an old car that gave out lots of blue smoke. I suggested some cheap repairs to fix that. She declined, saying "it's an old car" and it would "not be worth it". So much for her left-liberal views and a "strong commitment to the environment" (her words). -- "Once you adopt the unix paradigm, the variants cease to be a problem - you bitch, of course, but that's because bitching is fun, unlike M$ OS's, where bitching is required to keep your head from exploding." - S Stremler in afc
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