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  Ok, you've all been waiting for this. John Kennerson <nobody@isis.cpunk.us> - 2014-05-11 22:30 -0400
    Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-12 08:59 -0700
      Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-05-12 16:12 +0000
        Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) - 2014-05-12 17:28 +0000
          Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-05-13 02:35 -0700
            Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-13 02:49 -0700
        Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2014-05-12 19:33 -0400
          Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-05-13 02:38 -0700
        Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2014-05-13 04:09 +0200
          Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. Jack Shown <jackshown@gmail.com> - 2014-05-19 14:56 -0700
        Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-13 12:39 +0200
          Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-13 14:09 -0400
            Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-14 13:05 +0000
              Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-14 15:52 +0000
      Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-12 17:50 -0400
        Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-12 18:25 -0700
          Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-13 02:01 +0000
          Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. Jack Ryan <mixmaster@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2014-05-12 22:01 -0500
          Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-14 09:29 +1200
            Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-13 23:21 -0400
      Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-05-13 02:35 -0700
    Re: Ok, you've all been waiting for this. "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2014-05-12 18:58 +0200

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#59318 — Ok, you've all been waiting for this.

http://www.telnetbbsguide.com/

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#59319

On 2014-05-12 02:30:33 +0000, John Kennerson <nobody@isis.cpunk.us> said:

> http://www.telnetbbsguide.com/

The last computer I had with TELNET access was my Apple IIe some 30+ years ago.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#59320

In comp.sys.mac.system Savageduck <savageduck1@{removespam}me.com> wrote:
> The last computer I had with TELNET access was my Apple IIe some 30+ 
> years ago.

Your Mac running OS X has always had it.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#59326

In article <lkqru2$79b$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote:
>In comp.sys.mac.system Savageduck <savageduck1@{removespam}me.com> wrote:
>> The last computer I had with TELNET access was my Apple IIe some 30+ 
>> years ago.
>
>Your Mac running OS X has always had it.
>

I use it daily under OS X ...
 
-- 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
| Brian Gordon     -->briang@panix.com<--     brian dot gordon at cox dot net |
+ brianggordon@hotmail.com   Bass: Lexington "Main Street Harmonizers" chorus +
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#59346

On 5/12/2014 10:28 AM PT, Brian Gordon typed:

>>> The last computer I had with TELNET access was my Apple IIe some 30+
>>> years ago.
>>
>> Your Mac running OS X has always had it.
>
> I use it daily under OS X ...

Why no SSH?
-- 
"I'm not a worker ant. I'm like a queen. Or maybe a king. But you never 
hear of king ants." --Sean Bentley
    /\___/\         Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site)
   / /\ /\ \                Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net
  | |o   o| |
     \ _ /        If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link.
      ( )         If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed.
Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer.

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#59348

In article <2NKdndvS2o7meuzOnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> On 5/12/2014 10:28 AM PT, Brian Gordon typed:
> 
> >>> The last computer I had with TELNET access was my Apple IIe some 30+
> >>> years ago.
> >>
> >> Your Mac running OS X has always had it.
> >
> > I use it daily under OS X ...
> 
> Why no SSH?

Many protocols were designed so they could be exercised with the telnet program.

@ telnet www.apple.com 80
Trying 23.203.189.15...
Connected to www.apple.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
GET / HTTP/1.0

HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request
Server: AkamaiGHost
Mime-Version: 1.0
Expires: Tue, 13 May 2014 09:47:36 GMT
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 09:47:36 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 194
Connection: close

<HTML><HEAD>
<TITLE>Invalid URL</TITLE>
</HEAD><BODY>
<H1>Invalid URL</H1>
The requested URL "&#47;", is invalid.<p>
Reference&#32;&#35;9&#46;455832b8&#46;1399974456&#46;20671e85
</BODY></HTML>
Connection closed by foreign host.

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
Icke's razor: Given two equally plausible explanations, choose the weirder.

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#59335

In article <lkqru2$79b$1@dont-email.me>
me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) wrote:
>
> In comp.sys.mac.system Savageduck <savageduck1@{removespam}me.com> wrote:
> > The last computer I had with TELNET access was my Apple IIe some 30+
> > years ago.
>
> Your Mac running OS X has always had it.

The MAC telnet terminal emulator sux.

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#59347

On 5/12/2014 4:33 PM PT, Anonymous typed:

>>> The last computer I had with TELNET access was my Apple IIe some 30+
>>> years ago.
>>
>> Your Mac running OS X has always had it.
>
> The MAC telnet terminal emulator sux.

Maybe use SyncTerm even though Mac OS X port is old? 
http://syncterm.bbsdev.net/
-- 
"I'm not a worker ant. I'm like a queen. Or maybe a king. But you never 
hear of king ants." --Sean Bentley
    /\___/\         Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site)
   / /\ /\ \                Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net
  | |o   o| |
     \ _ /        If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link.
      ( )         If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed.
Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer.

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#59341

In article <lkqru2$79b$1@dont-email.me>
me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) wrote:
>
> In comp.sys.mac.system Savageduck <savageduck1@{removespam}me.com> wrote:
> > The last computer I had with TELNET access was my Apple IIe some 30+
> > years ago.
>
> Your Mac running OS X has always had it.

The MAC telnet terminal emulator sux.

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#59522

On Monday, May 12, 2014 7:09:27 PM UTC-7, Anonymous wrote:
> In article <lkqru2$79b$1@dont-email.me>
> 
> me@home.spamsucks.ca (Kir�ly) wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > In comp.sys.mac.system Savageduck <savageduck1@{removespam}me.com> wrote:
> 
> > > The last computer I had with TELNET access was my Apple IIe some 30+
> 
> > > years ago.
> 
> >
> 
> > Your Mac running OS X has always had it.
> 
> 
> 
> The MAC telnet terminal emulator sux.

That's about like telling Albert Einstein that, because you don't know anything about the topic, General Relativity sux.

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#59350

On 2014-05-12, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.system Savageduck <savageduck1@{removespam}me.com> wrote:
>> The last computer I had with TELNET access was my Apple IIe some 30+ 
>> years ago.
>
> Your Mac running OS X has always had it.

Outbound TELNET yes, and it can be a very useful diagnostic tool. You can
if you want TELNET to port 119 of your news provider and relive that BBS
style interface for reading and posting news.

OS X also has inbound TELNET, which is disabled by default.   I did enable
inbound TELNET in the Panther/Tiger era just for the heck of it, but it
wasn't easy to do so.  Someone at Apple sensibly thought it wasn't a good
idea so put some obstacles in the way.

-- 
Paul Sture

The final step of #heartbleed recovery is to call your mother, and advise
her to change her maiden name                                  -- @gojomo

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#59351

On 14-05-13 06:39, Paul Sture wrote:

> Outbound TELNET yes, and it can be a very useful diagnostic tool. You can
> if you want TELNET to port 119 of your news provider and relive that BBS
> style interface for reading and posting news.

Considering the NSA's interest in anything encrypted, it is probably
safer these dasy to use telnet instead of SSH :-)

When connected to devices internally, SSH is a waste of computer
resources. And yes, telnet is useful to access routers, ATAs and a whole
bunch of networking equipment.

Interestingly, there are far more (orders of magnitudes) attempts to
connect to SSH port than to the telnet port with brute force login attempts.

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#59354

In message <53725fd2$0$18946$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com> 
  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-05-13 06:39, Paul Sture wrote:

>> Outbound TELNET yes, and it can be a very useful diagnostic tool. You can
>> if you want TELNET to port 119 of your news provider and relive that BBS
>> style interface for reading and posting news.

> Considering the NSA's interest in anything encrypted, it is probably
> safer these dasy to use telnet instead of SSH :-)

Nope, just encrypt everything.

I am hopeful that in the next 5 years I will be able to reject all
connections to my mailserver that are not encrypted, for example.
Already about 2/3 at last count are, but that still leaves a lot, even
on my small mailserver.

> When connected to devices internally, SSH is a waste of computer
> resources.

Yeah, that's what Google thought until they found out the NSA was inside
and tapping their internal connections.

Always encrypt. Always.

> And yes, telnet is useful to access routers, ATAs and a whole
> bunch of networking equipment.

Really old networking equipment.

> Interestingly, there are far more (orders of magnitudes) attempts to
> connect to SSH port than to the telnet port with brute force login attempts.

You don't have to brute force telnet, the connections and passwords are
sent in plaintext, so if you've seen the connection, you have the
password.

-- 
Two of the most famous products of Berkeley are LSD and Unix. 
I don't think that is a coincidence

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#59355

Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> writes:

> You don't have to brute force telnet, the connections and passwords are
> sent in plaintext, so if you've seen the connection, you have the
> password.

Again, there is NTLM, Kerberos, ... 

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2941 

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#59333

On 2014.05.12, 11:59 , Savageduck wrote:
> On 2014-05-12 02:30:33 +0000, John Kennerson <nobody@isis.cpunk.us> said:
>
>> http://www.telnetbbsguide.com/
>
> The last computer I had with TELNET access was my Apple IIe some 30+
> years ago.

In terminal (Mac):  telnet

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#59338

On 2014-05-12 21:50:45 +0000, Alan Browne 
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> said:

> On 2014.05.12, 11:59 , Savageduck wrote:
>> On 2014-05-12 02:30:33 +0000, John Kennerson <nobody@isis.cpunk.us> sai
> d:
>> 
>>> http://www.telnetbbsguide.com/
>> 
>> The last computer I had with TELNET access was my Apple IIe some 30+
>> years ago.
> 
> In terminal (Mac):  telnet

...er, OK! However these days TELNET seems so, steam driven.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#59340

In comp.sys.mac.system Savageduck <savageduck1@{removespam}me.com> wrote:

> ...er, OK! However these days TELNET seems so, steam driven.

It still has some vaule.  Example (one of many) -

telnet route-server.he.net

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#59344

On Mon, 12 May 2014 18:25:15 -0700, you wrote:
>
> On 2014-05-12 21:50:45 +0000, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> said:
>
> > On 2014.05.12, 11:59 , Savageduck wrote:
> >> On 2014-05-12 02:30:33 +0000, John Kennerson <nobody@isis.cpunk.us> sai
> > d:
> >>
> >>> http://www.telnetbbsguide.com/
> >>
> >> The last computer I had with TELNET access was my Apple IIe some 30+
> >> years ago.
> >
> > In terminal (Mac):  telnet
>
> ...er, OK! However these days TELNET seems so, steam driven.

Ah but one must appreciate the subtleties of ASCII art.

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#59352

In article <2014051218251563368-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> On 2014-05-12 21:50:45 +0000, Alan Browne 
> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> said:
> 
> > On 2014.05.12, 11:59 , Savageduck wrote:
> >> On 2014-05-12 02:30:33 +0000, John Kennerson <nobody@isis.cpunk.us> sai
> > d:
> >> 
> >>> http://www.telnetbbsguide.com/
> >> 
> >> The last computer I had with TELNET access was my Apple IIe some 30+
> >> years ago.
> > 
> > In terminal (Mac):  telnet
> 
> ...er, OK! However these days TELNET seems so, steam driven.

No more so than USENET.  ;-)

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#59353

On 2014.05.13, 17:29 , Your Name wrote:
> In article <2014051218251563368-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-05-12 21:50:45 +0000, Alan Browne
>> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> said:
>>
>>> On 2014.05.12, 11:59 , Savageduck wrote:
>>>> On 2014-05-12 02:30:33 +0000, John Kennerson <nobody@isis.cpunk.us> sai
>>> d:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.telnetbbsguide.com/
>>>>
>>>> The last computer I had with TELNET access was my Apple IIe some 30+
>>>> years ago.
>>>
>>> In terminal (Mac):  telnet
>>
>> ...er, OK! However these days TELNET seems so, steam driven.
>
> No more so than USENET.  ;-)

I almost said same and deleted it because it's been so long since I've 
seen Telnet that I'm sure usenet (at least due to clients) is far more 
evolved.


-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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