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Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple

Started byDavid Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com>
First post2014-05-03 13:59 -0400
Last post2014-05-11 19:45 +0100
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  Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-05-03 13:59 -0400
    Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-03 19:23 +0000
      Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-03 16:10 -0400
    Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-03 16:06 -0400
    Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-05-03 15:16 -0500
    Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-05-03 17:26 -0500
    Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-03 19:10 -0400
      Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-04 12:51 +1200
        Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-05-04 08:58 -0500
      Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-10 12:39 +0200
        Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-10 08:43 -0500
          Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-10 11:33 -0400
        Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-11 19:45 +0100

#59130 — Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple

FromDavid Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com>
Date2014-05-03 13:59 -0400
SubjectPhishing attempt, supposedly from Apple
Message-ID<dfritzin-739CDE.13590003052014@news.eternal-september.org>
Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing 
email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple. The subject of the 
email is: "Important Notification", and the content is: "As we strive to 
secure your account, please be informed to upgrade to our latest 
security platform here.
Your privacy and protection is our concern.
Apple Support".
 
If you go to the site by clicking "here" (no, I didn't do that-I just 
looked at the preview in Mail), you will see that they ask for all kinds 
of personal information, including your credit card number and security 
code, mother's maiden name, etc.

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#59131

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-05-03 19:23 +0000
Message-ID<lk3fnm$7fc$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#59130
David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> writes:

> Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing 
> email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple. The subject of the 
> email is: "Important Notification", and the content is: "As we strive to 
> secure your account, please be informed to upgrade to our latest 
> security platform here.
> Your privacy and protection is our concern.
> Apple Support".
>  

Beware of people writing in English that obviously don't know it well.

> If you go to the site by clicking "here" (no, I didn't do that-I just 
> looked at the preview in Mail), you will see that they ask for all kinds 
> of personal information, including your credit card number and security 
> code, mother's maiden name, etc.

And, feel free to enter bogus/insulting/etc data here.  Heh.

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#59133

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-05-03 16:10 -0400
Message-ID<dPidnQE5nIyB0PjOnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#59131
On 2014.05.03, 15:23 , billy@MIX.COM wrote:

>
> And, feel free to enter bogus/insulting/etc data here.  Heh.

I do that manually on occasion when sufficiently moved - but perhaps I 
need to set up an autofill to do it.

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#59132

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-05-03 16:06 -0400
Message-ID<u-udnVLT_pzf0fjOnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#59130
On 2014.05.03, 13:59 , David Fritzinger wrote:
> Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing
> email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple. The subject of the
> email is: "Important Notification", and the content is: "As we strive to
> secure your account, please be informed to upgrade to our latest
> security platform here.
> Your privacy and protection is our concern.
> Apple Support".

I get 2 or 3 per day of these.  They come in English, French, German, 
Italian, Spanish and various eastern European languages.  I open the odd 
one for potential entertainment (filling the fields with comments about 
their mother and so in occasionally therapeutic).

Mainly I ignore and delete them.

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#59134

FromTim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net>
Date2014-05-03 15:16 -0500
Message-ID<slrnlmajlh.imb.timmcn@sugaree.local>
In reply to#59130
On Sat, 03 May 2014 13:59:00 -0400, David Fritzinger 
<dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> wrote:
> Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing 
> email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple. The subject of the 
> email is: "Important Notification", and the content is: "As we strive 
> to secure your account, please be informed to upgrade to our latest 
> security platform here. Your privacy and protection is our concern. 
> Apple Support".

So, not native English speakers then...

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#59136

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2014-05-03 17:26 -0500
Message-ID<CF8AD75D.AA81C%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#59130


On 5/3/14 12:59 PM, in article
dfritzin-739CDE.13590003052014@news.eternal-september.org, "David
Fritzinger" <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> wrote:

> Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing
> email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple. The subject of the
> email is: "Important Notification", and the content is: "As we strive to
> secure your account, please be informed to upgrade to our latest
> security platform here.
> Your privacy and protection is our concern.
> Apple Support".
>  
> If you go to the site by clicking "here" (no, I didn't do that-I just
> looked at the preview in Mail), you will see that they ask for all kinds
> of personal information, including your credit card number and security
> code, mother's maiden name, etc.

Yep, I got the same damn thing. Promptly marked it a s-h-i-t and went on my
way. 

If they don't have my name, f--k em...

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#59138

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-05-03 19:10 -0400
Message-ID<53657752$0$47947$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#59130
On 14-05-03 13:59, David Fritzinger wrote:
> Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing 
> email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple.

Nobody should be using a email client that displays HTML as HTML, and
doesn't have a "view source" option.

"view source" is the best way to see if an email is legit or not. (the
"Received from" headers provide very good information. An Apple email
doesn't come from aol for instance),

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#59140

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-05-04 12:51 +1200
Message-ID<040520141251437417%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#59138
In article <53657752$0$47947$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-05-03 13:59, David Fritzinger wrote:
> >
> > Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing 
> > email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple.
> 
> Nobody should be using a email client that displays HTML as HTML, and
> doesn't have a "view source" option.
> 
> "view source" is the best way to see if an email is legit or not. (the
> "Received from" headers provide very good information. An Apple email
> doesn't come from aol for instance),

Hovering the mouse over the link in many applications will also display
the real address from the source code. That's usually enough to tell
you it's a fake. Even if it doesn't say something completely obvious
like "astrohackers.com", it will usually try hopelessley to hide the
fact with something silly like apple.xyz.ru.

The problem can be legitimate links in email newsletters generated by
places like MailChimp. These often use coded links which then
auto-redirect - the coded link is used by the sender's MailChimp
account for statiscal purposes to see how many people clicked the link.

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#59142

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2014-05-04 08:58 -0500
Message-ID<CF8BB1B8.AA875%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#59140


On 5/3/14 7:51 PM, in article 040520141251437417%YourName@YourISP.com, "Your
Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> In article <53657752$0$47947$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>, JF
> Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> On 14-05-03 13:59, David Fritzinger wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing
>>> email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple.
>> 
>> Nobody should be using a email client that displays HTML as HTML, and
>> doesn't have a "view source" option.
>> 
>> "view source" is the best way to see if an email is legit or not. (the
>> "Received from" headers provide very good information. An Apple email
>> doesn't come from aol for instance),
> 
> Hovering the mouse over the link in many applications will also display
> the real address from the source code. That's usually enough to tell
> you it's a fake. Even if it doesn't say something completely obvious
> like "astrohackers.com", it will usually try hopelessley to hide the
> fact with something silly like apple.xyz.ru.
> 
> The problem can be legitimate links in email newsletters generated by
> places like MailChimp. These often use coded links which then
> auto-redirect - the coded link is used by the sender's MailChimp
> account for statiscal purposes to see how many people clicked the link.

"Apple <appleid@id.apple.com>" was the bullshit address in this case.

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#59236

FromPaul Sture <nospam@sture.ch>
Date2014-05-10 12:39 +0200
Message-ID<c7c14b-3lf1.ln1@news.chingola.ch>
In reply to#59138
On 2014-05-03, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-05-03 13:59, David Fritzinger wrote:
>> Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing 
>> email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple.
>
> Nobody should be using a email client that displays HTML as HTML, and
> doesn't have a "view source" option.
>
> "view source" is the best way to see if an email is legit or not. (the
> "Received from" headers provide very good information. An Apple email
> doesn't come from aol for instance),

Agreed that an Apple email doesn't come from aol, but with all this cloud
stuff, some mails from large companies are coming from domains that aren't
the ones you would expect.  They should pay more attention to details
like this.


-- 
Paul Sture

The final step of #heartbleed recovery is to call your mother, and advise
her to change her maiden name                                  -- @gojomo

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#59238

FromLloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com>
Date2014-05-10 08:43 -0500
Message-ID<lklaek$223$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#59236
On 2014-05-10 10:39:08 +0000, Paul Sture said:

> On 2014-05-03, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> On 14-05-03 13:59, David Fritzinger wrote:
>>> Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing
>>> email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple.
>> 
>> Nobody should be using a email client that displays HTML as HTML, and
>> doesn't have a "view source" option.
>> 
>> "view source" is the best way to see if an email is legit or not. (the
>> "Received from" headers provide very good information. An Apple email
>> doesn't come from aol for instance),
> 
> Agreed that an Apple email doesn't come from aol, but with all this cloud
> stuff, some mails from large companies are coming from domains that aren't
> the ones you would expect.  They should pay more attention to details
> like this.

Yeah, but if you use the basic rule of "don't click in email", you 
generally don't run into issues.  If I get an email from what is 
supposedly a place that might be of interest, I just go to that place 
outside of email.  If it is legit, the action/info will be there, if it 
isn't then the email was bogus.

Beats the hell out of 'viewing source' and having your eyeballs get 
tired trying to read though all the crap those phoney emails have put 
there imo.

-- 
Lloyd

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#59243

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-05-10 11:33 -0400
Message-ID<gLKdnRgHQeh42_POnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#59238
On 2014.05.10, 09:43 , Lloyd E Parsons wrote:
> On 2014-05-10 10:39:08 +0000, Paul Sture said:
>
>> On 2014-05-03, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>> On 14-05-03 13:59, David Fritzinger wrote:
>>>> Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing
>>>> email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple.
>>>
>>> Nobody should be using a email client that displays HTML as HTML, and
>>> doesn't have a "view source" option.
>>>
>>> "view source" is the best way to see if an email is legit or not. (the
>>> "Received from" headers provide very good information. An Apple email
>>> doesn't come from aol for instance),
>>
>> Agreed that an Apple email doesn't come from aol, but with all this cloud
>> stuff, some mails from large companies are coming from domains that
>> aren't
>> the ones you would expect.  They should pay more attention to details
>> like this.
>
> Yeah, but if you use the basic rule of "don't click in email", you
> generally don't run into issues.  If I get an email from what is
> supposedly a place that might be of interest, I just go to that place
> outside of email.  If it is legit, the action/info will be there, if it
> isn't then the email was bogus.

Yep.  Though on some obvious phishes I can't resist checking out the 
link.  Very often Chrome flags it as a phish in any case.

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#59287

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2014-05-11 19:45 +0100
Message-ID<110520141945127503%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#59236
In article <c7c14b-3lf1.ln1@news.chingola.ch>, Paul Sture
<nospam@sture.ch> wrote:

> On 2014-05-03, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > On 14-05-03 13:59, David Fritzinger wrote:
> >> Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing 
> >> email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple.
> >
> > Nobody should be using a email client that displays HTML as HTML, and
> > doesn't have a "view source" option.
> >
> > "view source" is the best way to see if an email is legit or not. (the
> > "Received from" headers provide very good information. An Apple email
> > doesn't come from aol for instance),
> 
> Agreed that an Apple email doesn't come from aol, but with all this cloud
> stuff, some mails from large companies are coming from domains that aren't
> the ones you would expect.  They should pay more attention to details
> like this.

This is why, in my email client, I specifically implemented phishing
tooltips: hover the mouse over a supposed URL and get a tip telling you
where you will *actually* go if you click it.

-- 
"Once you adopt the unix paradigm, the variants cease to be a problem - you
bitch, of course, but that's because bitching is fun, unlike M$ OS's, where 
bitching is required to keep your head from exploding." - S Stremler in afc

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