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Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?

Started byDon Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
First post2014-04-27 17:25 -0700
Last post2014-05-02 19:48 -0400
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  Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-04-27 17:25 -0700
    Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-27 20:29 -0400
    Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-04-27 18:05 -0700
    Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-04-27 18:10 -0700
      Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-04-27 18:53 -0700
    Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-28 16:47 +0000
      Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-04-28 11:32 -0700
        Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? android <here@there.was> - 2014-04-28 21:30 +0200
        Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-29 09:17 +1200
          Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-29 03:02 +0000
            Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 17:04 -0400
        Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-28 22:22 +0000
          Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-28 19:23 -0400
            Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-04-28 18:32 -0700
              Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 16:38 -0400
        Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-29 03:00 +0000
          POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2014-04-29 08:36 +0200
            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-29 19:10 +1200
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2014-04-29 10:49 +0200
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-30 09:21 +1200
                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 17:23 +0000
                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-02 17:27 +0000
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2014-04-30 15:28 +0100
                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-30 14:52 +0000
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 16:28 -0400
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 16:39 -0400
            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-29 03:18 -0400
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-29 19:22 +1200
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-29 10:05 +0100
                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-04-29 10:23 -0400
                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-30 09:16 +1200
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-29 17:28 -0400
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 16:28 -0400
            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-29 20:47 +0000
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-04-29 20:27 -0500
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-29 21:42 -0400
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-30 14:19 +0000
                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-04-30 17:50 -0500
                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-30 23:36 +0000
                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-04-30 17:50 -0700
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-01 13:13 +1200
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-04-30 21:15 -0700
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-01 18:22 +1200
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 17:11 +0000
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 17:09 +0000
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2014-04-30 08:41 +0200
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-30 03:17 -0400
                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2014-04-30 09:47 +0200
                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-30 04:54 -0400
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2014-04-30 11:32 +0200
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-04-30 06:51 -0700
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-01 09:27 +1200
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 18:00 -0400
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2014-05-02 10:00 +0200
                            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-02 09:48 +0100
                            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-02 10:07 -0400
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 17:16 +0000
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-30 14:09 +0000
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 17:14 +0000
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-30 14:14 +0000
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-04-30 19:18 +0000
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 17:06 -0400
            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-05-01 18:56 -0400
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-05-02 12:23 +1200
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-05-02 10:34 -0400
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-05-01 18:25 -0600
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-02 01:46 +0000
                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-02 05:48 +0000
                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-02 03:20 -0400
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP android <here@there.was> - 2014-05-02 10:50 +0200
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-02 06:04 -0400
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP android <here@there.was> - 2014-05-02 12:14 +0200
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 17:39 +0000
                            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-02 18:32 +0000
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-02 10:55 -0500
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-02 16:50 +0000
                            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-03 11:30 -0500
                              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-03 16:45 +0000
                                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-04 11:43 -0500
                                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-05 20:41 +0000
                                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-06 12:32 -0500
                                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-06 17:41 +0000
                                        Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-07 12:25 -0500
                                          Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-08 00:10 +0000
                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-07 20:32 -0400
                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-05-08 04:29 +0000
                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) dyera@not.freeshell.org.invalid - 2014-05-08 14:40 +0000
                                              Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-05-10 07:16 -0700
                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-08 16:14 -0500
                                              Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-08 21:42 +0000
                                                Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-09 12:15 -0500
                                                  Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-09 18:42 +0000
                                                    Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-10 16:42 -0500
                                                      Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-11 01:08 +0000
                                                        Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-11 16:40 -0500
                                                          Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-05-11 17:52 -0700
                                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-12 11:39 -0500
                                                          Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-05-11 21:25 -0400
                                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-12 11:53 -0500
                                                          Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-12 10:29 +0000
                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-09 03:45 +0000
                                              Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-09 09:30 -0400
                                                Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-09 18:17 -0400
                                                  Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-09 19:28 -0400
                                                  Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-10 13:30 +1200
                                              Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-05-12 00:12 +0000
                                                Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-05-11 21:32 -0400
                                                  Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-05-12 04:00 -0700
                                          Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2014-05-08 11:42 +0200
                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-08 16:33 -0500
                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-09 03:43 +0000
                                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-07 19:27 +0000
                                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-08 15:55 -0500
                                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-08 22:16 +0000
                                            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-09 11:35 -0500
                                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-09 16:20 +0000
                                            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-10 13:43 -0500
                                              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-11 04:20 +0000
                                                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-11 15:01 -0500
                                                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-12 14:27 +0000
                                                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-12 17:24 +0100
                                                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-12 17:38 +0000
                                                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-12 20:58 +0000
                                                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-12 21:33 +0000
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-02 17:17 +0000
                            Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-03 12:10 -0500
                              Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-03 23:13 +0000
                              Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-08 03:49 +0000
                                Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-08 16:02 -0500
                                  Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-09 09:22 +1200
                                  Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-09 01:20 +0000
                                    Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-09 11:43 -0500
                                      Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-09 18:36 +0000
                                        Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-10 17:47 +0000
                                          Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-11 19:38 +0100
                                            Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-11 19:05 +0000
                                              Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-11 20:13 +0100
                                                Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-11 23:17 +0000
                                                  Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-12 10:01 +0100
                                                    Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-12 10:48 +0000
                                                      Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-12 15:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-12 17:22 +0100
                                                          Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-12 20:34 +0000
                                                          Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-12 20:57 +0000
                                                Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-12 02:20 +0000
                                          Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-11 15:14 -0500
                                        Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-10 13:53 -0500
                                          Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-10 20:29 +0000
                                            Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-11 16:21 -0500
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP android <here@there.was> - 2014-05-04 20:08 +0200
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-02 13:17 -0400
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 22:08 +0000
                            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-02 18:35 -0400
                            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-03 00:02 +0000
                              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-03 09:37 -0400
                                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-03 17:09 +0000
                                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-03 13:23 -0400
                                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-05-05 13:30 -0700
                                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP John White <jccw@comcast.net> - 2014-05-05 16:41 -0400
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-02 13:55 +0000
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP android <here@there.was> - 2014-05-02 16:10 +0200
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-05-02 10:37 -0400
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-02 10:48 -0400
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-02 11:09 -0400
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-02 17:06 +0000
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-02 17:23 +0000
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 17:34 +0000
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-03 12:01 +1200
                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP dyera@not.freeshell.org.invalid - 2014-05-02 17:00 +0000
                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-02 13:19 -0400
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP dyera@not.freeshell.org.invalid - 2014-05-03 16:29 +0000
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-03 12:46 -0400
          Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 16:35 -0400
            Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 17:27 +0000
              Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-02 17:41 -0400
                Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 22:14 +0000
                  Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-02 18:46 -0400
                  Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-05-02 23:33 +0000
                    Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-02 19:48 -0400

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#59102 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-05-02 17:23 +0000
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<slrnlm7l46.fag.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#59016
In message <300420140921364770%YourName@YourISP.com> 
  Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> In article <1lkv1yf.1pi9s3p19vmkuaN%befr@eaglesoft.de>, Bernd Fröhlich
> <befr@eaglesoft.de> wrote:
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Although they have been getting larger, email providers usually have a
>> > limited mailbox storage space (and in some cases that limited space also
>> > has to include your website data, cloud backup, etc.), whereas the
>> > amount of space on your own computer is virtually unimited. A big email
>> > or many emails left sitting on the server can cause new emails to be
>> > bounced back with a "mailbox full" error.
>> 
>> Good point.
>> My mail-archive dates back into the last century and has a size of about
>> 100000 mails / 3GB.

> Personally I can't be bothered keeping emails, including work ones -
> once I've dealt with them, they get deleted. I've never need to go back
> to any old emails.

Really?

I get: Invoices, payment notifications, receipts, and personal mail,
none of which I want to delete. I still have emails from my dad and
step-mom who have both died. I have emails that are 20+ years old.

I used to spend time trying to decide what email to save, but it as a
large time sync. I don't delete any email now as it's simpler to keep
everything that figure out what I want to keep.

Every now and then I go through and delete some of the list mail or
subscription mail in large batches (using smart folders). Still have
over 5GB though.

-- 
“The chief obstacle to the progress of the human race is the human race. ” 
   ― Don Marquis

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#59103 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-05-02 17:27 +0000
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<bsi2rcFoeniU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#59102
On 2014-05-02, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <300420140921364770%YourName@YourISP.com> 
>   Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> In article <1lkv1yf.1pi9s3p19vmkuaN%befr@eaglesoft.de>, Bernd Fröhlich
>> <befr@eaglesoft.de> wrote:
>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > Although they have been getting larger, email providers usually have a
>>> > limited mailbox storage space (and in some cases that limited space also
>>> > has to include your website data, cloud backup, etc.), whereas the
>>> > amount of space on your own computer is virtually unimited. A big email
>>> > or many emails left sitting on the server can cause new emails to be
>>> > bounced back with a "mailbox full" error.
>>> 
>>> Good point.
>>> My mail-archive dates back into the last century and has a size of about
>>> 100000 mails / 3GB.
>
>> Personally I can't be bothered keeping emails, including work ones -
>> once I've dealt with them, they get deleted. I've never need to go back
>> to any old emails.
>
> Really?
>
> I get: Invoices, payment notifications, receipts, and personal mail,
> none of which I want to delete. I still have emails from my dad and
> step-mom who have both died. I have emails that are 20+ years old.
>
> I used to spend time trying to decide what email to save, but it as a
> large time sync. I don't delete any email now as it's simpler to keep
> everything that figure out what I want to keep.
>
> Every now and then I go through and delete some of the list mail or
> subscription mail in large batches (using smart folders). Still have
> over 5GB though.

Same here (including emails from my now-deceased father). My default is
to keep everything, for similar reasons. 

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#59045 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

FromHoward.not@home.com (Howard)
Date2014-04-30 15:28 +0100
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<1lkx9ka.qg1hxs165zoycN%Howard.not@home.com>
In reply to#59008
Bernd Fröhlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> wrote:

> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> 
> > Although they have been getting larger, email providers usually have a
> > limited mailbox storage space (and in some cases that limited space also
> > has to include your website data, cloud backup, etc.), whereas the
> > amount of space on your own computer is virtually unimited. A big email
> > or many emails left sitting on the server can cause new emails to be
> > bounced back with a "mailbox full" error.
> 
> Good point.
> My mail-archive dates back into the last century and has a size of about
> 100000 mails / 3GB.

Same here, as IMAP. I can access, read, process my email at any location
- and on my iPad and iphone too. Home or abroad. Also for work I keep
all emails because projects can be ongoing and any potential legal
action means we will be able to keep the record and either defend
ourselves or take action ourselves.

 

-- 
Howard

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#59046 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-04-30 14:52 +0000
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<ljr2nc$6lo$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#59045
Howard <Howard.not@home.com> writes:

> Same here, as IMAP. I can access, read, process my email at any location
> - and on my iPad and iphone too. Home or abroad. Also for work I keep
> all emails because projects can be ongoing and any potential legal
> action means we will be able to keep the record and either defend
> ourselves or take action ourselves.

Yea.  I know I'm going to have trouble getting something fixed
when some support droid emails a note saying, "I'd really rather
talk about this on the phone" (I'm looking at you, Sound Devices)
instead of writing out what they intend to do to solve a problem.

Our voice mail is also delivered as easy-to-share wave files, so
I can say the same thing for calls that hang up instead of leaving
a message (file names are the incoming phone number and date, heh).

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#59049 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-04-30 16:28 -0400
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<2t6dnZSpgvlXwfzOnZ2dnUVZ_rMAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#59005
On 2014.04.29, 03:10 , Your Name wrote:
> In article <1lkuvlk.we7paplh2d4N%befr@eaglesoft.de>, Bernd Fröhlich
> <befr@eaglesoft.de> wrote:
>> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>
>>> IMAP can do everything that POP3 can do, but can also do many more
>>> things.
>>
>> Which means, that there are many more potential pitfalls (different
>> default folder names, sync-problems, etc.)
>>
>> POP3 is lean and easy, IMAP is big and (if you´re unlucky) troublesome.
>> Sure, it works, mostly, ... until it doesn´t.
>>
>> Plus (for the paranoid amongst us): I don´t like to have all my mail
>> lying on a server where the snoops can get to it.
>> Yes, I know, if they really want it, they´ll get it, but at least the´ll
>> have to try harder.
>
> Although they have been getting larger, email providers usually have a
> limited mailbox storage space (and in some cases that limited space
> also has to include your website data, cloud backup, etc.), whereas the
> amount of space on your own computer is virtually unimited. A big email
> or many emails left sitting on the server can cause new emails to be
> bounced back with a "mailbox full" error.

My POP account is set to clear e-mails 3 days after they have been 
POP'd.  I haven't even looked at the limit that is offered and I only 
hazily recall the last time someone phoned to say "Your mailbox is 
full!" (sometime back in the early 90's - and that was due to a setup 
error that didn't clear them).

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#59054 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-04-30 16:39 -0400
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<ieudnXmDZunnwvzOnZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#59049
On 2014.04.30, 16:28 , Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2014.04.29, 03:10 , Your Name wrote:
>> In article <1lkuvlk.we7paplh2d4N%befr@eaglesoft.de>, Bernd Fröhlich
>> <befr@eaglesoft.de> wrote:
>>> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> IMAP can do everything that POP3 can do, but can also do many more
>>>> things.
>>>
>>> Which means, that there are many more potential pitfalls (different
>>> default folder names, sync-problems, etc.)
>>>
>>> POP3 is lean and easy, IMAP is big and (if you´re unlucky) troublesome.
>>> Sure, it works, mostly, ... until it doesn´t.
>>>
>>> Plus (for the paranoid amongst us): I don´t like to have all my mail
>>> lying on a server where the snoops can get to it.
>>> Yes, I know, if they really want it, they´ll get it, but at least the´ll
>>> have to try harder.
>>
>> Although they have been getting larger, email providers usually have a
>> limited mailbox storage space (and in some cases that limited space
>> also has to include your website data, cloud backup, etc.), whereas the
>> amount of space on your own computer is virtually unimited. A big email
>> or many emails left sitting on the server can cause new emails to be
>> bounced back with a "mailbox full" error.
>
> My POP account is set to clear e-mails 3 days after they have been

correction                               1 day

> POP'd.  I haven't even looked at the limit that is offered and I only
> hazily recall the last time someone phoned to say "Your mailbox is
> full!" (sometime back in the early 90's - and that was due to a setup
> error that didn't clear them).
>


-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#59006 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-04-29 03:18 -0400
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<535f525e$0$33595$c3e8da3$9deca2c3@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#59004
On 14-04-29 02:36, Bernd Fröhlich wrote:

> Which means, that there are many more potential pitfalls (different
> default folder names, sync-problems, etc.)

I switched to IMAP a long time ago, when I first got a phone with email
capability. When you access your email from different devices, having a
central mail store accessed/shared by all your devices makes things much
simpler.

I happen to run my own server, so it is not much different from NSA/CSEC
coming into my server to get my imap mail store, then they would any
other mail store on my server.

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#59007 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-04-29 19:22 +1200
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<290420141922589012%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#59006
In article <535f525e$0$33595$c3e8da3$9deca2c3@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-04-29 02:36, Bernd Fröhlich wrote:
> > 
> > Which means, that there are many more potential pitfalls (different
> > default folder names, sync-problems, etc.)
> 
> I switched to IMAP a long time ago, when I first got a phone with email
> capability. When you access your email from different devices, having a
> central mail store accessed/shared by all your devices makes things much
> simpler.
> 
> I happen to run my own server, so it is not much different from NSA/CSEC
> coming into my server to get my imap mail store, then they would any
> other mail store on my server.

They don't have to come into your email server. By secret government
law copies of *ALL* emails are sent direct to their servers for keyword
analysis ... just ask the tin-foil wearers.  ;-)

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#59009 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2014-04-29 10:05 +0100
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<290420141005583476%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#59007
In article <290420141922589012%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> They don't have to come into your email server. By secret government
> law copies of *ALL* emails are sent direct to their servers for keyword
> analysis ... just ask the tin-foil wearers.  ;-)

Which government is that?

-- 
"Once you adopt the unix paradigm, the variants cease to be a problem - you
bitch, of course, but that's because bitching is fun, unlike M$ OS's, where 
bitching is required to keep your head from exploding." - S Stremler in afc

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#59011 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromInvid Fan <invid@loclanet.com>
Date2014-04-29 10:23 -0400
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<290420141023159228%invid@loclanet.com>
In reply to#59009
In article <290420141005583476%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> In article <290420141922589012%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> 
> > They don't have to come into your email server. By secret government
> > law copies of *ALL* emails are sent direct to their servers for keyword
> > analysis ... just ask the tin-foil wearers.  ;-)
> 
> Which government is that?

There is only one :)

-- 
Chris Mack       "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
'Invid Fan'             - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'

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#59015 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-04-30 09:16 +1200
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<300420140916598140%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#59011
In article <290420141023159228%invid@loclanet.com>, Invid Fan
<invid@loclanet.com> wrote:
> In article <290420141005583476%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
> <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > In article <290420141922589012%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
> > <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > They don't have to come into your email server. By secret government
> > > law copies of *ALL* emails are sent direct to their servers for keyword
> > > analysis ... just ask the tin-foil wearers.  ;-)
> > 
> > Which government is that?
> 
> There is only one :)

Technically there are "three":
  
   - all Western countries bow down to America
   - all Eastern countries bow down to China
   - a few "independent" stragglers like North Korea

;-)

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#59019 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-04-29 17:28 -0400
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<5360198f$0$8098$c3e8da3$3304c218@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#59015
On 14-04-29 17:16, Your Name wrote:

>> > Which government is that?
>> 
>> There is only one :)
> 
> Technically there are "three":


In particular, the "5 Eyes" agreement between England, Canada, USA, New
Zealand and Australia where the "NSA" of each country agree to share
intelligence.

What this really means is that if the Canadian CSEC isn't allowed to spy
on its own citizens, it asks the NSA to do the dirty work, and same
thing for the NSA.

They all have goals of collecting any/all information they can get their
paws on.

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#59050 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-04-30 16:28 -0400
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<2t6dnZepgvlvwfzOnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#59007
On 2014.04.29, 03:22 , Your Name wrote:
> In article <535f525e$0$33595$c3e8da3$9deca2c3@news.astraweb.com>, JF
> Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> On 14-04-29 02:36, Bernd Fröhlich wrote:
>>>
>>> Which means, that there are many more potential pitfalls (different
>>> default folder names, sync-problems, etc.)
>>
>> I switched to IMAP a long time ago, when I first got a phone with email
>> capability. When you access your email from different devices, having a
>> central mail store accessed/shared by all your devices makes things much
>> simpler.
>>
>> I happen to run my own server, so it is not much different from NSA/CSEC
>> coming into my server to get my imap mail store, then they would any
>> other mail store on my server.
>
> They don't have to come into your email server. By secret government
> law copies of *ALL* emails are sent direct to their servers for keyword
> analysis .

Anything crossing the US border almost certainly does.

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#59013 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-04-29 20:47 +0000
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<slrnlm03uk.2d8v.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#59004
In message <1lkuvlk.we7paplh2d4N%befr@eaglesoft.de> 
  Bernd Fröhlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> wrote:
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> IMAP can do everything that POP3 can do, but can also do many more
>> things.

> Which means, that there are many more potential pitfalls (different
> default folder names, sync-problems, etc.)

> POP3 is lean and easy,

That's simply not true. POP3 is generally huge and messy. People leave
mail on servers, and that is ONE file. With the mail volume most people
get, that can be several tens or hundreds of MB per day. Leave mail on
the server for a week and you are parsing through a single file than can
easily be half a gig.

This is horribly inefficient.

> IMAP is big and (if you´re unlucky) troublesome.

Nope. I've been using IMAP exclusively since 1999. Far fewer problems
than POP. So much so that I dropped all support for POP3 in 2001.

> Plus (for the paranoid amongst us): I don´t like to have all my mail
> lying on a server where the snoops can get to it.

The snoops have already gotten it. 

> Yes, I know, if they really want it, they´ll get it, but at least the´ll
> have to try harder.

No they won't, email is sent in the clear. They already have it.


-- 
Two, Four, Six, Eight! Time to Transubstantiate!

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#59024 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromTim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net>
Date2014-04-29 20:27 -0500
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<slrnlm0kcd.9s9.timmcn@sugaree.local>
In reply to#59013
On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 20:47:16 +0000 (UTC), Lewis 
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
> That's simply not true. POP3 is generally huge and messy. People leave 
> mail on servers, and that is ONE file. With the mail volume most 
> people get, that can be several tens or hundreds of MB per day. Leave 
> mail on the server for a week and you are parsing through a single 
> file than can easily be half a gig.

"Most people?"  Most people don't get anywhere near hundreds of MB per 
day in e-mails.  Heck, I use e-mail as my primary communication method, 
get a hundred or so a day and unless files are attached probably don't 
hit more than a couple of MBs most days.  Text takes up very little 
space.

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#59025 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-04-29 21:42 -0400
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<53605514$0$32687$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#59024
On 14-04-29 21:27, Tim McNamara wrote:

> "Most people?"  Most people don't get anywhere near hundreds of MB per 
> day in e-mails. 

When I participate in large CRTC processes, such as the wireless code,
and upcoming wholesale wireless and "Talk TV" on future of television,
on deadline days, one can receive a fairly large amount of material via
email from other participants (especially true for broadcasting which
often includes more images and sometimes some short videos).


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#59044 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-04-30 14:19 +0000
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<ljr0pc$cr1$5@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#59024
Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> writes:

> "Most people?"  Most people don't get anywhere near hundreds of MB per 
> day in e-mails.  Heck, I use e-mail as my primary communication method, 
> get a hundred or so a day and unless files are attached probably don't 
> hit more than a couple of MBs most days.  Text takes up very little 
> space.

My quota is currently set at 4GB.  I'm an extremely active email user,
and I'm currently into about 25% of it.  I believe Convergence's limit
(MTA Apple uses, and me, too) is 10GB.

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#59063 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromTim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net>
Date2014-04-30 17:50 -0500
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<slrnlm2vhj.avm.timmcn@sugaree.local>
In reply to#59044
On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 14:19:24 +0000 (UTC), billy@MIX.COM <billy@MIX.COM> 
wrote:
> Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> writes:
>
>> "Most people?"  Most people don't get anywhere near hundreds of MB 
>> per day in e-mails.  Heck, I use e-mail as my primary communication 
>> method, get a hundred or so a day and unless files are attached 
>> probably don't hit more than a couple of MBs most days.  Text takes 
>> up very little space.
>
> My quota is currently set at 4GB.  I'm an extremely active email user, 
> and I'm currently into about 25% of it.  I believe Convergence's limit 
> (MTA Apple uses, and me, too) is 10GB.

This is one of the limitations of IMAP and for people who get large 
amounts of files via e-mail it can be a problem.  "The cloud" in general 
presents this issue (which is one of the ways "the cloud" intends to be 
profitable: "you have filled your allocation of storage space.  Would 
you like to buy more for only $xx.xx a year?"  And if not, you may kiss 
goodbye to your data if you don't have a local backup (although watch 
out for iCloud, it will delete your data off of your hard drive if you 
decide not to live the Apple Way, as I found out the hard way- iCloud 
doesn't store a backup of your data, it stores your data and your apps 
get the data from there, not from your local storage).

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#59064 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-04-30 23:36 +0000
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<ljs1dk$f43$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#59063
Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> writes, quoting me:

> > My quota is currently set at 4GB.  I'm an extremely active email user, 
> > and I'm currently into about 25% of it.  I believe Convergence's limit 
> > (MTA Apple uses, and me, too) is 10GB.
> 
> This is one of the limitations of IMAP and for people who get large
> amounts of files via e-mail it can be a problem.  "The cloud" in general
> presents this issue (which is one of the ways "the cloud" intends to be
> profitable: "you have filled your allocation of storage space.  Would
> you like to buy more for only $xx.xx a year?"  And if not, you may kiss
> goodbye to your data if you don't have a local backup (although watch
> out for iCloud, it will delete your data off of your hard drive if you
> decide not to live the Apple Way, as I found out the hard way- iCloud
> doesn't store a backup of your data, it stores your data and your apps
> get the data from there, not from your local storage).

I'm not using iCloud.  I was leery of it before reading your message,
and now I'll definitely avoid it.

My server uses RAID storage, and it's backed up daily, and then I do
my own daily backups, too.  One can never have too many backups, heh.

If I come close to my disk quota, I'll be notified.  I could increase
it, but what usually happens is I just archive some mail.  If I really
need something later, I can import it back into mail.  Quotas here are
to prevent any one person from taking down the entire server.  But,
they're hardly the only defense in place for that.

Billy Y..
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#59065 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromDon Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
Date2014-04-30 17:50 -0700
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<ljs5ms$9hu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#59063
In article <slrnlm2vhj.avm.timmcn@sugaree.local>,
 Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:


> goodbye to your data if you don't have a local backup (although watch 
> out for iCloud, it will delete your data off of your hard drive if you 
> decide not to live the Apple Way, as I found out the hard way- iCloud 
> doesn't store a backup of your data, it stores your data and your apps 
> get the data from there, not from your local storage).

Sounds to me like an *EXCELLENT* reason to avoid iCloud like plague...

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