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Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?

Started byDon Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
First post2014-04-27 17:25 -0700
Last post2014-05-02 19:48 -0400
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  Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-04-27 17:25 -0700
    Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-27 20:29 -0400
    Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-04-27 18:05 -0700
    Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-04-27 18:10 -0700
      Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-04-27 18:53 -0700
    Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-28 16:47 +0000
      Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-04-28 11:32 -0700
        Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? android <here@there.was> - 2014-04-28 21:30 +0200
        Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-29 09:17 +1200
          Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-29 03:02 +0000
            Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 17:04 -0400
        Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-28 22:22 +0000
          Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-28 19:23 -0400
            Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-04-28 18:32 -0700
              Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 16:38 -0400
        Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-29 03:00 +0000
          POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2014-04-29 08:36 +0200
            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-29 19:10 +1200
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2014-04-29 10:49 +0200
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-30 09:21 +1200
                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 17:23 +0000
                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-02 17:27 +0000
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2014-04-30 15:28 +0100
                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-30 14:52 +0000
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 16:28 -0400
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 16:39 -0400
            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-29 03:18 -0400
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-29 19:22 +1200
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-29 10:05 +0100
                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-04-29 10:23 -0400
                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-30 09:16 +1200
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-29 17:28 -0400
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 16:28 -0400
            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-29 20:47 +0000
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-04-29 20:27 -0500
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-29 21:42 -0400
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-30 14:19 +0000
                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-04-30 17:50 -0500
                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-30 23:36 +0000
                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-04-30 17:50 -0700
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-01 13:13 +1200
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-04-30 21:15 -0700
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-01 18:22 +1200
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 17:11 +0000
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 17:09 +0000
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2014-04-30 08:41 +0200
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-30 03:17 -0400
                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2014-04-30 09:47 +0200
                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-30 04:54 -0400
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2014-04-30 11:32 +0200
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-04-30 06:51 -0700
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-01 09:27 +1200
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 18:00 -0400
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2014-05-02 10:00 +0200
                            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-02 09:48 +0100
                            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-02 10:07 -0400
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 17:16 +0000
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-30 14:09 +0000
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 17:14 +0000
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-30 14:14 +0000
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-04-30 19:18 +0000
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 17:06 -0400
            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?) John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-05-01 18:56 -0400
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-05-02 12:23 +1200
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-05-02 10:34 -0400
              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-05-01 18:25 -0600
                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-02 01:46 +0000
                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-02 05:48 +0000
                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-02 03:20 -0400
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP android <here@there.was> - 2014-05-02 10:50 +0200
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-02 06:04 -0400
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP android <here@there.was> - 2014-05-02 12:14 +0200
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 17:39 +0000
                            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-02 18:32 +0000
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-02 10:55 -0500
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-02 16:50 +0000
                            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-03 11:30 -0500
                              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-03 16:45 +0000
                                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-04 11:43 -0500
                                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-05 20:41 +0000
                                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-06 12:32 -0500
                                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-06 17:41 +0000
                                        Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-07 12:25 -0500
                                          Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-08 00:10 +0000
                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-07 20:32 -0400
                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-05-08 04:29 +0000
                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) dyera@not.freeshell.org.invalid - 2014-05-08 14:40 +0000
                                              Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-05-10 07:16 -0700
                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-08 16:14 -0500
                                              Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-08 21:42 +0000
                                                Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-09 12:15 -0500
                                                  Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-09 18:42 +0000
                                                    Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-10 16:42 -0500
                                                      Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-11 01:08 +0000
                                                        Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-11 16:40 -0500
                                                          Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-05-11 17:52 -0700
                                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-12 11:39 -0500
                                                          Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-05-11 21:25 -0400
                                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-12 11:53 -0500
                                                          Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-12 10:29 +0000
                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-09 03:45 +0000
                                              Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-09 09:30 -0400
                                                Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-09 18:17 -0400
                                                  Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-09 19:28 -0400
                                                  Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-10 13:30 +1200
                                              Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-05-12 00:12 +0000
                                                Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-05-11 21:32 -0400
                                                  Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-05-12 04:00 -0700
                                          Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2014-05-08 11:42 +0200
                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-08 16:33 -0500
                                            Re: Of what value is Usenet? (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-09 03:43 +0000
                                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-07 19:27 +0000
                                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-08 15:55 -0500
                                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-08 22:16 +0000
                                            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-09 11:35 -0500
                                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-09 16:20 +0000
                                            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-10 13:43 -0500
                                              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-11 04:20 +0000
                                                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-11 15:01 -0500
                                                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-12 14:27 +0000
                                                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-12 17:24 +0100
                                                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-12 17:38 +0000
                                                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-12 20:58 +0000
                                                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-12 21:33 +0000
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-02 17:17 +0000
                            Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-03 12:10 -0500
                              Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-03 23:13 +0000
                              Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-08 03:49 +0000
                                Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-08 16:02 -0500
                                  Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-09 09:22 +1200
                                  Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-09 01:20 +0000
                                    Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-09 11:43 -0500
                                      Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-09 18:36 +0000
                                        Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-10 17:47 +0000
                                          Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-11 19:38 +0100
                                            Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-11 19:05 +0000
                                              Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-11 20:13 +0100
                                                Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-11 23:17 +0000
                                                  Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-12 10:01 +0100
                                                    Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-12 10:48 +0000
                                                      Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-12 15:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-12 17:22 +0100
                                                          Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-12 20:34 +0000
                                                          Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-12 20:57 +0000
                                                Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-12 02:20 +0000
                                          Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-11 15:14 -0500
                                        Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-10 13:53 -0500
                                          Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-10 20:29 +0000
                                            Re: Usenet enters the ring!  NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-05-11 16:21 -0500
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP android <here@there.was> - 2014-05-04 20:08 +0200
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-02 13:17 -0400
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 22:08 +0000
                            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-02 18:35 -0400
                            Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-03 00:02 +0000
                              Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-03 09:37 -0400
                                Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-03 17:09 +0000
                                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-03 13:23 -0400
                                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-05-05 13:30 -0700
                                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP John White <jccw@comcast.net> - 2014-05-05 16:41 -0400
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-02 13:55 +0000
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP android <here@there.was> - 2014-05-02 16:10 +0200
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-05-02 10:37 -0400
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-02 10:48 -0400
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-02 11:09 -0400
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-02 17:06 +0000
                          Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-02 17:23 +0000
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 17:34 +0000
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-03 12:01 +1200
                  Re: POP3 vs. IMAP dyera@not.freeshell.org.invalid - 2014-05-02 17:00 +0000
                    Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-02 13:19 -0400
                      Re: POP3 vs. IMAP dyera@not.freeshell.org.invalid - 2014-05-03 16:29 +0000
                        Re: POP3 vs. IMAP Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-03 12:46 -0400
          Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 16:35 -0400
            Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 17:27 +0000
              Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-02 17:41 -0400
                Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 22:14 +0000
                  Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-02 18:46 -0400
                  Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-05-02 23:33 +0000
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#59066 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-05-01 13:13 +1200
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<010520141313140739%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#59065
In article <ljs5ms$9hu$1@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
wrote:
> In article <slrnlm2vhj.avm.timmcn@sugaree.local>,
>  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> >  
> > goodbye to your data if you don't have a local backup (although watch 
> > out for iCloud, it will delete your data off of your hard drive if you 
> > decide not to live the Apple Way, as I found out the hard way- iCloud 
> > doesn't store a backup of your data, it stores your data and your apps 
> > get the data from there, not from your local storage).
> 
> Sounds to me like an *EXCELLENT* reason to avoid iCloud like plague...

Data on the iCloud servers is backed up by Apple, just like any other
server provider, but the iCloud service is not really meant to be a
backup solution as such. It's an internet data storage solution.

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#59068 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromDon Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
Date2014-04-30 21:15 -0700
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<ljsho4$v1b$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#59066
In article <010520141313140739%YourName@YourISP.com>,
 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> In article <ljs5ms$9hu$1@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
> wrote:
> > In article <slrnlm2vhj.avm.timmcn@sugaree.local>,
> >  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> > >  
> > > goodbye to your data if you don't have a local backup (although watch 
> > > out for iCloud, it will delete your data off of your hard drive if you 
> > > decide not to live the Apple Way, as I found out the hard way- iCloud 
> > > doesn't store a backup of your data, it stores your data and your apps 
> > > get the data from there, not from your local storage).
> > 
> > Sounds to me like an *EXCELLENT* reason to avoid iCloud like plague...
> 
> Data on the iCloud servers is backed up by Apple, just like any other
> server provider, but the iCloud service is not really meant to be a
> backup solution as such. It's an internet data storage solution.

Thanks, but I want my data available 24/7/365, on my terms, at my whim, 
on any (or no) notice, accessed the way I want to access it, regardless 
of whether or not I happen to have a network connection active at the 
moment I decide I want to do something with it. 

Which means local storage. If, for whatever reason, I don't have my data 
on my local drives, it's utterly worthless to me under several sets of 
circumstances, no matter how well it might be backed up, stored, 
protected, etc. 

Which means that, at least for me, cloud storage is absolutely out of 
the question. (But that hasn't changed since the first time I heard of 
the concept, so... <shrug>)

-- 
Security provided by Mssrs Smith and/or Wesson. Brought to you by the letter Q

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#59069 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-05-01 18:22 +1200
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<010520141822547776%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#59068
In article <ljsho4$v1b$1@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
wrote:
> In article <010520141313140739%YourName@YourISP.com>,
>  Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > In article <ljs5ms$9hu$1@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
> > wrote:
> > > In article <slrnlm2vhj.avm.timmcn@sugaree.local>,
> > >  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > goodbye to your data if you don't have a local backup (although watch 
> > > > out for iCloud, it will delete your data off of your hard drive if you 
> > > > decide not to live the Apple Way, as I found out the hard way- iCloud 
> > > > doesn't store a backup of your data, it stores your data and your apps 
> > > > get the data from there, not from your local storage).
> > > 
> > > Sounds to me like an *EXCELLENT* reason to avoid iCloud like plague...
> > 
> > Data on the iCloud servers is backed up by Apple, just like any other
> > server provider, but the iCloud service is not really meant to be a
> > backup solution as such. It's an internet data storage solution.
> 
> Thanks, but I want my data available 24/7/365, on my terms, at my whim, 
> on any (or no) notice, accessed the way I want to access it, regardless 
> of whether or not I happen to have a network connection active at the 
> moment I decide I want to do something with it. 
> 
> Which means local storage. If, for whatever reason, I don't have my data 
> on my local drives, it's utterly worthless to me under several sets of 
> circumstances, no matter how well it might be backed up, stored, 
> protected, etc. 
> 
> Which means that, at least for me, cloud storage is absolutely out of 
> the question. (But that hasn't changed since the first time I heard of 
> the concept, so... <shrug>)

Being on a dial-up connection, I'm certainly not arguing with you on
that. I don't want to use silly cloud-based systems either.  :-)

Even with broadband connections, here in New Zealand most of
over-priced plans have silly data caps, which makes using cloud systems
(storage or apps like Office 365) rather silly or even more expensive.

Even using multiple computers (say a work one and a home one) it's
still far easier and cheaper just to use a USB drive of some sort.

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#59095 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-05-02 17:11 +0000
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<slrnlm7kdt.fag.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#59065
In message <ljs5ms$9hu$1@dont-email.me> 
  Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
> In article <slrnlm2vhj.avm.timmcn@sugaree.local>,
>  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:


>> goodbye to your data if you don't have a local backup (although watch 
>> out for iCloud, it will delete your data off of your hard drive if you 
>> decide not to live the Apple Way, as I found out the hard way- iCloud 
>> doesn't store a backup of your data, it stores your data and your apps 
>> get the data from there, not from your local storage).

> Sounds to me like an *EXCELLENT* reason to avoid iCloud like plague...

And yet, a dearth of facts.

-- 
Mister Teatime had a truly brilliant mind, but it was brilliant like a
fractured mirror, all marvelous facets and rainbows but, ultimately,
also something that was broken. --Hogfather

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#59093 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-05-02 17:09 +0000
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<slrnlm7k9v.fag.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#59024
In message <slrnlm0kcd.9s9.timmcn@sugaree.local> 
  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 20:47:16 +0000 (UTC), Lewis 
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>
>> That's simply not true. POP3 is generally huge and messy. People leave 
>> mail on servers, and that is ONE file. With the mail volume most 
>> people get, that can be several tens or hundreds of MB per day. Leave 
>> mail on the server for a week and you are parsing through a single 
>> file than can easily be half a gig.

> "Most people?"  Most people don't get anywhere near hundreds of MB per 
> day in e-mails.

That's why I said tens or hundreds. One or two attachments a day will
easily push you into the 'tens' and a large volume of mail will easily
push you into the hundreds.

I run a mail server, I know how much mail people get.

> Heck, I use e-mail as my primary communication method, get a hundred
> or so a day and unless files are attached probably don't hit more than
> a couple of MBs most days.

You are not a typical user. TYPICAL users get videos in their
email, then complain that they can only send 25MB or smaller
attachments.

-- 
'I'll see you all tomorrow. If there is one.'

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#59031 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

Frombefr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich)
Date2014-04-30 08:41 +0200
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<1lkwqk2.djrpys17ctw3gN%befr@eaglesoft.de>
In reply to#59013
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> Leave mail on
> the server for a week and you are parsing through a single file than can
> easily be half a gig.

That may be so... for a fraction of a percent of users.

So what about IMAP for those users? In a couple of weeks they´ll have
several gigs of data on the server. In a year that would be 26 gig.

Btw:
I´m not saying that IMAP is generally bad.
I´m saying it depends on the user.
For me POP3 is the better choice, for you it´s IMAP.
Nothing to start a war about, just good to have alternatives.

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#59032 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-04-30 03:17 -0400
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<5360a373$0$10072$c3e8da3$69010069@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#59031
On 14-04-30 02:41, Bernd Fröhlich wrote:

> So what about IMAP for those users? In a couple of weeks they´ll have
> several gigs of data on the server. In a year that would be 26 gig.


With IMAP, you can move/drag your emails to a local folder and delete
them from the IMAP store.

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#59033 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

Frombefr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich)
Date2014-04-30 09:47 +0200
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<1lkwtta.1nqdls81wbzqr8N%befr@eaglesoft.de>
In reply to#59032
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> With IMAP, you can move/drag your emails to a local folder and delete
> them from the IMAP store.

So then you have your data fragmented between the server and local
storage.
I prefer to have all my mail in one place.

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#59034 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-04-30 04:54 -0400
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<5360ba36$0$58677$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#59033
On 14-04-30 03:47, Bernd Fröhlich wrote:

> I prefer to have all my mail in one place.

If your "one place" is space limited, then you need to eventually
archive emails elsewhere.

If you pull all your emails to your desktop via POP, they are not
accessible to your iphone/laptop. This is why using Imap becomes
extremely convenient when you have multiple devices accessing the same
mailbox.

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#59035 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

Frombefr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich)
Date2014-04-30 11:32 +0200
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<1lkwy8n.1l8dyylsd0b4iN%befr@eaglesoft.de>
In reply to#59034
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> If your "one place" is space limited, then you need to eventually
> archive emails elsewhere.

My "one place" is my harddisk. For mail-purposes that is "unlimited".

> If you pull all your emails to your desktop via POP, they are not
> accessible to your iphone/laptop.

So what? I don´t need them to be.

And with your previous suggestion:
> With IMAP, you can move/drag your emails to a local folder and delete
> them from the IMAP store.

those files would also not be accessible from your iphone/laptop.

> This is why using Imap becomes
> extremely convenient when you have multiple devices accessing the same
> mailbox.

Sure, IF you need them to be accessible on multiple devices.
I don´t.

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#59038 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

FromMichael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Date2014-04-30 06:51 -0700
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<vilain-E1CE3D.06511830042014@news.individual.net>
In reply to#59035
In article <1lkwy8n.1l8dyylsd0b4iN%befr@eaglesoft.de>,
 befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) wrote:

> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> 
> > If your "one place" is space limited, then you need to eventually
> > archive emails elsewhere.
> 
> My "one place" is my harddisk. For mail-purposes that is "unlimited".
> 
> > If you pull all your emails to your desktop via POP, they are not
> > accessible to your iphone/laptop.
> 
> So what? I don´t need them to be.
> 
> And with your previous suggestion:
> > With IMAP, you can move/drag your emails to a local folder and delete
> > them from the IMAP store.
> 
> those files would also not be accessible from your iphone/laptop.
> 
> > This is why using Imap becomes
> > extremely convenient when you have multiple devices accessing the same
> > mailbox.
> 
> Sure, IF you need them to be accessible on multiple devices.
> I don´t.

Since you don't need to access your email from multiple devices, POP 
will do you just fine *IF* you're not one of those uses who uses their 
INBOX as a folder.  If you file stuff away in folders after you read it 
and keep a clean INBOX, you'll gain nothing from IMAP vs POP unless you 
loose a hard drive or have a senior moment or accidentally delete 
something from your voluminous INBOX.  Then you'll have to rely on your 
Time Capsule's backup to restore your email from the last snapshot.

The huge INBOX isn't a big thing unless you're a sysadmin who has to 
deal with users like you who leave a 10K message INBOX on the servers 
/var/mail.  It's read in and downloaded EVERY TIME the user logs into 
mail.  With IMAP, only the headers are sent to the mail client.  But 
you're protected by TimeMachine, so everything should be fine.  We'll 
stop trying to convince you to switch to IMAP.

Until your ISP decides to outsource email (like they did newgroups) and 
only offers IMAP servers.  Then you'll have to find a new ISP.  Apple's 
Mail does both.  Newer email apps only do IMAP (e.g. Sparrow Mail and 
AirMail come to mind) because "everyone uses the Cloud".

-- 
DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...
[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]

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#59058 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-05-01 09:27 +1200
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<010520140927282495%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#59038
In article <vilain-E1CE3D.06511830042014@news.individual.net>, Michael
Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> In article <1lkwy8n.1l8dyylsd0b4iN%befr@eaglesoft.de>,
>  befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) wrote:
> > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > > 
> > > If your "one place" is space limited, then you need to eventually
> > > archive emails elsewhere.
> > 
> > My "one place" is my harddisk. For mail-purposes that is "unlimited".
> > 
> > > If you pull all your emails to your desktop via POP, they are not
> > > accessible to your iphone/laptop.
> > 
> > So what? I don´t need them to be.
> > 
> > And with your previous suggestion:
> > > With IMAP, you can move/drag your emails to a local folder and delete
> > > them from the IMAP store.
> > 
> > those files would also not be accessible from your iphone/laptop.
> > 
> > > This is why using Imap becomes
> > > extremely convenient when you have multiple devices accessing the same
> > > mailbox.
> > 
> > Sure, IF you need them to be accessible on multiple devices.
> > I don´t.
> 
> Since you don't need to access your email from multiple devices, POP 
> will do you just fine *IF* you're not one of those uses who uses their 
> INBOX as a folder.  

That makes no difference at all and has almost nothing to do with POP
vs IMAP.



> If you file stuff away in folders after you read it 
> and keep a clean INBOX, you'll gain nothing from IMAP vs POP unless you 
> loose a hard drive or have a senior moment or accidentally delete 
> something from your voluminous INBOX.  Then you'll have to rely on your 
> Time Capsule's backup to restore your email from the last snapshot.
<snip>

Not actually true, depending on your email application. In my
application I can set the POP to also leave the email on the server for
X days ... which of course makes it similar to IMAP anyway.

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#59060 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-04-30 18:00 -0400
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<1IWdnRvMhZ7z7_zOnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#59038
On 2014.04.30, 09:51 , Michael Vilain wrote:

> Since you don't need to access your email from multiple devices, POP
> will do you just fine *IF* you're not one of those uses who uses their
> INBOX as a folder.  If you file stuff away in folders after you read it

As long as your email client tells the POP server to delete the message 
there (after some delay of days or so), then there is no issue with the 
inbox.

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#59077 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

Frombefr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich)
Date2014-05-02 10:00 +0200
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<1ll0j7m.1w2qgce1ircn0gN%befr@eaglesoft.de>
In reply to#59038
Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> Since you don't need to access your email from multiple devices, POP 
> will do you just fine *IF* you're not one of those uses who uses their
> INBOX as a folder.  If you file stuff away in folders after you read it
> and keep a clean INBOX, you'll gain nothing from IMAP vs POP

Exactly my point.

> unless you 
> loose a hard drive or have a senior moment or accidentally delete 
> something from your voluminous INBOX.  Then you'll have to rely on your
> Time Capsule's backup to restore your email from the last snapshot.

Or pull it back from one of my other backup disks or my usb stick.

> We'll stop trying to convince you to switch to IMAP.

That would be nice.

> Until your ISP decides to outsource email (like they did newgroups) and
> only offers IMAP servers.  Then you'll have to find a new ISP.  Apple's
> Mail does both.  Newer email apps only do IMAP (e.g. Sparrow Mail and
> AirMail come to mind) because "everyone uses the Cloud".

I switched providers three times in the last 10 years. All I had to do
is change the account data and I was done.
Please remind me what you have to do, if you change providers when you
use IMAP.

And for the mail app: I don´t like Apple Mail or Thunderbird or any of
the others, so I wrote my own which works just the way I want it to.

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#59078 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2014-05-02 09:48 +0100
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<020520140948202174%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#59077
In article <1ll0j7m.1w2qgce1ircn0gN%befr@eaglesoft.de>, Bernd Fröhlich
<befr@eaglesoft.de> wrote:

> Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> > Until your ISP decides to outsource email (like they did newgroups) and
> > only offers IMAP servers.  Then you'll have to find a new ISP.  Apple's
> > Mail does both.  Newer email apps only do IMAP (e.g. Sparrow Mail and
> > AirMail come to mind) because "everyone uses the Cloud".
> 
> I switched providers three times in the last 10 years. All I had to do
> is change the account data and I was done.
> Please remind me what you have to do, if you change providers when you
> use IMAP.
> 
> And for the mail app: I don´t like Apple Mail or Thunderbird or any of
> the others, so I wrote my own which works just the way I want it to.

Ah, you too!

I wrote mine (see http://www.iletter.org.uk) in case the two touted
"Eudora replacements", MailForge and Eudora OSE, failed, which they
have both done. And it only does POP, although this is largely because
I have never looked into IMAP and know nothing about it.

Mine also works just the way I want it to, although I'm open to feature
requests.

-- 
"Once you adopt the unix paradigm, the variants cease to be a problem - you
bitch, of course, but that's because bitching is fun, unlike M$ OS's, where 
bitching is required to keep your head from exploding." - S Stremler in afc

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#59083 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-05-02 10:07 -0400
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<020520141007269230%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#59077
In article <1ll0j7m.1w2qgce1ircn0gN%befr@eaglesoft.de>, Bernd Fröhlich
<befr@eaglesoft.de> wrote:

> I switched providers three times in the last 10 years. All I had to do
> is change the account data and I was done.
> Please remind me what you have to do, if you change providers when you
> use IMAP.

it's the same. you just configure it with the new provider's info.

however, you do have the option to move some or all of your existing
mail to the new server if you want.

> And for the mail app: I don´t like Apple Mail or Thunderbird or any of
> the others, so I wrote my own which works just the way I want it to.

you could do that with imap too.

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#59097 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-05-02 17:16 +0000
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<slrnlm7knq.fag.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#59038
In message <vilain-E1CE3D.06511830042014@news.individual.net> 
  Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> The huge INBOX isn't a big thing unless you're a sysadmin who has to 
> deal with users like you who leave a 10K message INBOX on the servers 
> /var/mail.  It's read in and downloaded EVERY TIME the user logs into 
> mail.  With IMAP, only the headers are sent to the mail client.  But 
> you're protected by TimeMachine, so everything should be fine.  We'll 
> stop trying to convince you to switch to IMAP.

In fact, a 10K+ INBOX is exactly why I disabled POP3 access over a
decade ago.

> Until your ISP decides to outsource email (like they did newgroups) and 
> only offers IMAP servers.  Then you'll have to find a new ISP.  Apple's 
> Mail does both.  Newer email apps only do IMAP (e.g. Sparrow Mail and 
> AirMail come to mind) because "everyone uses the Cloud".

Johnny-come-latelies, all of them!

-- 
Everything you read on the Internet is false -- Glenn Fleishman

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#59042 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-04-30 14:09 +0000
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<ljr060$cr1$3@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#59034
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes:

> If your "one place" is space limited, then you need to eventually
> archive emails elsewhere.

Here ya go -

http://www.mailsteward.com

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
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#59096 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-05-02 17:14 +0000
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP
Message-ID<slrnlm7kkg.fag.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#59034
In message <5360ba36$0$58677$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com> 
  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-04-30 03:47, Bernd Fröhlich wrote:

>> I prefer to have all my mail in one place.

> If your "one place" is space limited, then you need to eventually
> archive emails elsewhere.

> If you pull all your emails to your desktop via POP, they are not
> accessible to your iphone/laptop. This is why using Imap becomes
> extremely convenient when you have multiple devices accessing the same
> mailbox.

Or if you travel. Or visit other people. Or leave your house. Either you
have no access to your email, or you lug your desktop around in the back
of your car with a 12V inverter and some huge batteries.

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helpful item that weighs less than its operating manual. --Jingo

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#59043 — Re: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-04-30 14:14 +0000
SubjectRe: POP3 vs. IMAP (Was: Re: Obnoxious noises in Apple Mail - how to silence?)
Message-ID<ljr0fu$cr1$4@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#59013
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> writes:

> That's simply not true. POP3 is generally huge and messy. People leave
> mail on servers, and that is ONE file.

There are other storage options.

> No they won't, email is sent in the clear. They already have it.

Encrypting mail with something like pgp does not include headers.
Heh.  As I recall, that ("metadata") is what the NSA claims they
most like.

Billy Y..
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