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| Started by | ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> |
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| First post | 2014-02-24 03:03 +0100 |
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Lion and scrollbar arrows? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-02-24 03:03 +0100
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-02-23 21:42 -0500
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-24 02:46 +0000
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-02-24 14:09 +0100
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-24 16:13 +0000
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-02-24 16:45 +0000
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-24 18:42 +0000
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-02-24 17:09 -0600
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-24 23:13 +0000
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-02-28 04:05 +0000
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-28 04:38 +0000
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-02-27 23:56 -0800
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-02-28 19:12 +0100
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-02-24 16:33 +1300
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-02-24 04:08 +0000
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-02-24 14:59 +0100
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-25 09:30 +0000
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-02-25 14:54 +0100
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-02-24 14:56 +0100
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-24 17:01 -0500
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-02-25 12:21 +1300
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-25 08:47 +0000
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-25 17:06 -0500
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-26 23:24 +0000
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-24 22:29 +0000
Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-02-24 23:39 +0100
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| From | ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-02-24 03:03 +0100 |
| Subject | Lion and scrollbar arrows? |
| Message-ID | <lee994$bsp$1@solani.org> |
Hi I've been forced to switch to Lion on my newly bought MacPro1.1 Xeon DualCore 4x3,0ghz, due to the use of specific software that requires Lion... - But it /does/ irritate me like ... that it isn't possible to have double-arrows in the scrollbars... Is it in any way possible to get the arrows back again in Lion v. 10.7.5...? Lion Tweeks doesn't give the possibility, neither do TinkerTools, Cocktail or Onyx. - A search on the web gives multiple discussions in a variety of fora, but no real help - just 'advicing' on upgrading to Mountain Lion.:-( cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| From | Davoud <star@sky.net> |
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| Date | 2014-02-23 21:42 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <230220142142253172%star@sky.net> |
| In reply to | #56934 |
ErikRS: > I've been forced to switch to Lion on my newly bought MacPro1.1 Xeon > DualCore 4x3,0ghz, due to the use of specific software that requires > Lion... - But it /does/ irritate me like ... that it isn't possible to > have double-arrows in the scrollbars... > > Is it in any way possible to get the arrows back again in Lion v. 10.7.5...? Your knee-jerk reaction against the loss of the double arrows is understandable. We all find changes in new OS versions that we don't like. If you are typical user and not a sorehead, you will become accustomed to the new scheme in a short time and you will forget that double arrows ever existed. They're a poor substitute for a scrolling mouse or trackpad, anyway. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-24 02:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bmvq4tFcqfdU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #56935 |
On 2014-02-24, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote: > ErikRS: >> I've been forced to switch to Lion on my newly bought MacPro1.1 Xeon >> DualCore 4x3,0ghz, due to the use of specific software that requires >> Lion... - But it /does/ irritate me like ... that it isn't possible to >> have double-arrows in the scrollbars... >> >> Is it in any way possible to get the arrows back again in Lion v. 10.7.5...? > > Your knee-jerk reaction against the loss of the double arrows is > understandable. We all find changes in new OS versions that we don't > like. If you are typical user and not a sorehead, you will become > accustomed to the new scheme in a short time and you will forget that > double arrows ever existed. They're a poor substitute for a scrolling > mouse or trackpad, anyway. Indeed. The changes bothered me at first. While I did get accustomed to the changes, they still somewhat irked me until I finally bit the bullet and got myself a Magic Trackpad and learned to use gestures for clicking, dragging, and scrolling. Ever since then haven't missed persistent visible scroll bars or the little arrows at the top and bottom. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-02-24 14:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lefg9i$qhm$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #56937 |
Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2014-02-24, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote: >> ErikRS: >>> I've been forced to switch to Lion on my newly bought MacPro1.1 Xeon >>> DualCore 4x3,0ghz, due to the use of specific software that requires >>> Lion... - But it /does/ irritate me like ... that it isn't possible to >>> have double-arrows in the scrollbars... >>> >>> Is it in any way possible to get the arrows back again in Lion v. 10.7.5...? >> >> Your knee-jerk reaction against the loss of the double arrows is >> understandable. We all find changes in new OS versions that we don't >> like. If you are typical user and not a sorehead, you will become >> accustomed to the new scheme in a short time and you will forget that >> double arrows ever existed. They're a poor substitute for a scrolling >> mouse or trackpad, anyway. > > Indeed. The changes bothered me at first. While I did get accustomed to > the changes, they still somewhat irked me until I finally bit the bullet > and got myself a Magic Trackpad and learned to use gestures for > clicking, dragging, and scrolling. Ever since then haven't missed > persistent visible scroll bars or the little arrows at the top and > bottom. You can have the scrollbars themselves back - also permanently, but no arrows any way... I can't use a trackpad because of various problems with my hands such as problems with my wrist and partially missing parts of two fingers on my right hand. Cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-24 16:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bn19d8Fmd88U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #56963 |
On 2014-02-24, ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> wrote: > > Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2014-02-24, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote: >>> ErikRS: >>>> I've been forced to switch to Lion on my newly bought MacPro1.1 >>>> Xeon DualCore 4x3,0ghz, due to the use of specific software that >>>> requires Lion... - But it /does/ irritate me like ... that it isn't >>>> possible to have double-arrows in the scrollbars... >>>> >>>> Is it in any way possible to get the arrows back again in Lion v. >>>> 10.7.5...? >>> >>> Your knee-jerk reaction against the loss of the double arrows is >>> understandable. We all find changes in new OS versions that we don't >>> like. If you are typical user and not a sorehead, you will become >>> accustomed to the new scheme in a short time and you will forget >>> that double arrows ever existed. They're a poor substitute for a >>> scrolling mouse or trackpad, anyway. >> >> Indeed. The changes bothered me at first. While I did get accustomed >> to the changes, they still somewhat irked me until I finally bit the >> bullet and got myself a Magic Trackpad and learned to use gestures >> for clicking, dragging, and scrolling. Ever since then haven't missed >> persistent visible scroll bars or the little arrows at the top and >> bottom. > > You can have the scrollbars themselves back - also permanently Yes, and I do display them always. > but no arrows any way... Correct. Arrows are gone. I don't miss them; but I don't use a mouse much anymore. > I can't use a trackpad because of various problems > with my hands such as problems with my wrist and partially missing parts > of two fingers on my right hand. That sucks. It's quite a better experience than a mouse, IMO. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) |
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| Date | 2014-02-24 16:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lefsuo$bdv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #56968 |
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > I can't use a trackpad because of various problems > > with my hands such as problems with my wrist and partially missing parts > > of two fingers on my right hand. > > That sucks. It's quite a better experience than a mouse, IMO. Trackpads and the Apple Magic Mouse also make my wrists sore. I use a decade-old Logitech USB mouse with scroll wheel and have never had a complaint with it. -- K. Lang may your lum reek.
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2014-02-24 18:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <240220141842294788%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #56971 |
In article <lefsuo$bdv$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > > I can't use a trackpad because of various problems > > > with my hands such as problems with my wrist and partially missing parts > > > of two fingers on my right hand. > > > > That sucks. It's quite a better experience than a mouse, IMO. > > Trackpads and the Apple Magic Mouse also make my wrists sore. I use a > decade-old Logitech USB mouse with scroll wheel and have never had a > complaint with it. +1 I use a Mighty Mouse. -- "People don't buy Microsoft for quality, they buy it for compatibility with what Bob in accounting bought last year. Trace it back - they buy Microsoft because the IBM Selectric didn't suck much" - P Seebach, afc
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| From | erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-02-24 17:09 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <drache-3581A4.17094424022014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #56976 |
In article <240220141842294788%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > In article <lefsuo$bdv$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> > wrote: > > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > > > I can't use a trackpad because of various problems > > > > with my hands such as problems with my wrist and partially missing > > > > parts > > > > of two fingers on my right hand. > > > > > > That sucks. It's quite a better experience than a mouse, IMO. > > > > Trackpads and the Apple Magic Mouse also make my wrists sore. I use a > > decade-old Logitech USB mouse with scroll wheel and have never had a > > complaint with it. > > +1 > > I use a Mighty Mouse. I have a wireless mouse with no buttons at all. Much easier on old wrists. I can just lean on it 8-) -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2014-02-24 23:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <240220142313441335%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #57017 |
In article <drache-3581A4.17094424022014@news.eternal-september.org>, erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote: > In article <240220141842294788%timstreater@greenbee.net>, > Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > > > In article <lefsuo$bdv$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> > > wrote: > > > > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > > > > I can't use a trackpad because of various problems > > > > > with my hands such as problems with my wrist and partially missing > > > > > parts > > > > > of two fingers on my right hand. > > > > > > > > That sucks. It's quite a better experience than a mouse, IMO. > > > > > > Trackpads and the Apple Magic Mouse also make my wrists sore. I use a > > > decade-old Logitech USB mouse with scroll wheel and have never had a > > > complaint with it. > > > > +1 > > > > I use a Mighty Mouse. > > I have a wireless mouse with no buttons at all. The wired MM is somewhat less fiddley to reassemble after cleaning, and there's no batteries to worry about. -- "The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place." - Douglas Adams
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| From | me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) |
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| Date | 2014-02-28 04:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lep1u0$qe1$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #56976 |
Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > > Trackpads and the Apple Magic Mouse also make my wrists sore. I use a > > decade-old Logitech USB mouse with scroll wheel and have never had a > > complaint with it. > > +1 Ugh. I took my Magic Mouse out of a drawer and tried it out again. Sore tendon after five minutes. Back in the drawer it goes. Maybe out the window would be even better. -- K. Lang may your lum reek.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-28 04:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bnai59Fm391U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57227 |
On 2014-02-28, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote: > Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >> > Trackpads and the Apple Magic Mouse also make my wrists sore. I use a >> > decade-old Logitech USB mouse with scroll wheel and have never had a >> > complaint with it. >> >> +1 > > Ugh. I took my Magic Mouse out of a drawer and tried it out again. Sore > tendon after five minutes. Back in the drawer it goes. Maybe out the > window would be even better. I've never had a mouse give me physical pain; but then I tend to stop using any device at the first sign of discomfort, long before pain sets in, and also adjust my grip and posture so that it doesn't become a problem to begin with. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> |
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| Date | 2014-02-27 23:56 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vilain-AA6325.23560127022014@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57229 |
In article <bnai59Fm391U2@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2014-02-28, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote: > > Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > >> > Trackpads and the Apple Magic Mouse also make my wrists sore. I use a > >> > decade-old Logitech USB mouse with scroll wheel and have never had a > >> > complaint with it. > >> > >> +1 > > > > Ugh. I took my Magic Mouse out of a drawer and tried it out again. Sore > > tendon after five minutes. Back in the drawer it goes. Maybe out the > > window would be even better. > > I've never had a mouse give me physical pain; but then I tend to stop > using any device at the first sign of discomfort, long before pain sets > in, and also adjust my grip and posture so that it doesn't become a > problem to begin with. The Magic Mouse did cause me pain after 45 minutes. Something about the way I had to hold it cause my shoulder to start aching after 45minutes. I took it back to the Apple Store and got the mobile trackpad which I only use rarely when I'm reading lots of stuff. I much prefer the Macally iMouse or the Digital Innovations mouse. It fits my hand and doesn't need any sort of special driver. -- DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... [I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]
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| From | ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-02-28 19:12 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <leqjij$fg4$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #57227 |
Király wrote: > Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >>> Trackpads and the Apple Magic Mouse also make my wrists sore. I use a >>> decade-old Logitech USB mouse with scroll wheel and have never had a >>> complaint with it. >> >> +1 > > Ugh. I took my Magic Mouse out of a drawer and tried it out again. Sore > tendon after five minutes. Back in the drawer it goes. Maybe out the > window would be even better. Huh! Don't do that. - It might hurt the one it hits.:-) Cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2014-02-24 16:33 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <1lhkwqw.bd4zhmgv7dp6N%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #56934 |
ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> wrote: > I've been forced to switch to Lion on my newly bought MacPro1.1 Xeon > DualCore 4x3,0ghz, due to the use of specific software that requires > Lion... - But it /does/ irritate me like ... that it isn't possible to > have double-arrows in the scrollbars... > > Is it in any way possible to get the arrows back again in Lion v. 10.7.5...? None that I've heard about. In Lion, Apple reimplemented the scroll bar controls and the new ones have no support for arrows at all, so there is no hidden setting to be tweaked by third party utilities or "defaults write". I didn't particularly care about that lost feature, as I was normally scrolling with a trackpad or mouse scroll wheel anyway. > Lion Tweeks doesn't give the possibility, neither do TinkerTools, > Cocktail or Onyx. - A search on the web gives multiple discussions in a > variety of fora, but no real help - just 'advicing' on upgrading to > Mountain Lion.:-( Upgrading to a later OS X version won't bring the scroll bar arrows back. One possible solution: if you only need Lion for one application, and really want arrows in scroll bars in as many places as possible _apart_ from that application, you could revert to Snow Leopard as your main OS, and run Lion inside a virtual machine, just for that application. -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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| From | me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) |
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| Date | 2014-02-24 04:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <leegk9$9ob$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #56941 |
David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > One possible solution: if you only need Lion for one application, and > really want arrows in scroll bars in as many places as possible _apart_ > from that application, you could revert to Snow Leopard as your main OS, > and run Lion inside a virtual machine, just for that application. Unfortunately that violates Lion's SLA. Lion is only licensed to run in a virtual machine if the host OS is also Lion. A dual-boot system (Snow Leopard on one volume and Lion on another) would work. -- K. Lang may your lum reek.
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| From | ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-02-24 14:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lefj7m$5ri$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #56945 |
Király wrote: > David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: >> One possible solution: if you only need Lion for one application, and >> really want arrows in scroll bars in as many places as possible _apart_ >> from that application, you could revert to Snow Leopard as your main OS, >> and run Lion inside a virtual machine, just for that application. > > Unfortunately that violates Lion's SLA. Lion is only licensed to run > in a virtual machine if the host OS is also Lion. > > A dual-boot system (Snow Leopard on one volume and Lion on another) > would work. Could do, /if/ the voices needed mentioned in other replies would be available for Leopard/SnowLeopard, - but they aren't.:-( Cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| From | Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-25 09:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1917715054415013422.930959bob_davis_retired-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #56945 |
Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote: > David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: >> One possible solution: if you only need Lion for one application, and >> really want arrows in scroll bars in as many places as possible _apart_ >> from that application, you could revert to Snow Leopard as your main OS, >> and run Lion inside a virtual machine, just for that application. > > Unfortunately that violates Lion's SLA. Lion is only licensed to run > in a virtual machine if the host OS is also Lion. > > A dual-boot system (Snow Leopard on one volume and Lion on another) > would work. Are we sure Apple's SLA is valid in Denmark?
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| From | ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-02-25 14:54 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lei7aq$lo9$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #57061 |
Oregonian Haruspex wrote: > Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote: >> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: >>> One possible solution: if you only need Lion for one application, and >>> really want arrows in scroll bars in as many places as possible _apart_ >>> from that application, you could revert to Snow Leopard as your main OS, >>> and run Lion inside a virtual machine, just for that application. >> >> Unfortunately that violates Lion's SLA. Lion is only licensed to run >> in a virtual machine if the host OS is also Lion. >> >> A dual-boot system (Snow Leopard on one volume and Lion on another) >> would work. > > Are we sure Apple's SLA is valid in Denmark? Indeed it is... It's even written in Danish when you open an Apple installer.:-) - And even if it wasn't, I'd still be under this SLA, since my computers are registered at Apple USA and not Apple Denmark. Cheers, Erik Rihcard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| From | ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-02-24 14:56 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lefj2a$592$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #56941 |
David Empson wrote: > ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> wrote: >> I've been forced to switch to Lion on my newly bought MacPro1.1 Xeon >> DualCore 4x3,0ghz, due to the use of specific software that requires >> Lion... - But it /does/ irritate me like ... that it isn't possible to >> have double-arrows in the scrollbars... >> >> Is it in any way possible to get the arrows back again in Lion v. 10.7.5...? > > None that I've heard about. In Lion, Apple reimplemented the scroll bar > controls and the new ones have no support for arrows at all, so there is > no hidden setting to be tweaked by third party utilities or "defaults > write". > > I didn't particularly care about that lost feature, as I was normally > scrolling with a trackpad or mouse scroll wheel anyway. As already answered to Vaveud and JollyRoger I can't use a normal trackpad - not even a normal mouse will do for me. I only have Kensington trackballs, which I mostly can use - also using the palm of my hand(s). Therefore I normally use the scroll-ring inline in texts and windows, but this isn't always usable when using the scanner software mentioned below. - As I read the possibilities in Lion you can only set the scrollbar scrolling to either 'jump to mouse point' or 'jump to next/previous page'... >> Lion Tweeks doesn't give the possibility, neither do TinkerTools, >> Cocktail or Onyx. - A search on the web gives multiple discussions in a >> variety of fora, but no real help - just 'advicing' on upgrading to >> Mountain Lion.:-( > > Upgrading to a later OS X version won't bring the scroll bar arrows > back. > > One possible solution: if you only need Lion for one application, and > really want arrows in scroll bars in as many places as possible _apart_ > from that application, you could revert to Snow Leopard as your main OS, > and run Lion inside a virtual machine, just for that application. Unfortuantely that won't do. It's moe applications that I need to runa alongside with the use of TTS with multi-lingual voices from a Brother pro network scanner. Both 10.5.x and 10.6.x are supported in the scanner software, but none of the voices I need are usalbe in neither systems. Cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-02-24 17:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <530bc14f$0$33480$c3e8da3$9deca2c3@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #56965 |
On 14-02-24 08:56, ErikRS wrote: > As already answered to Vaveud and JollyRoger I can't use a normal > trackpad - not even a normal mouse will do for me. I only have > Kensington trackballs, which I mostly can use - also using the palm of > my hand(s). Note that scroll bars become important when you have multiple scollable areas inside the same scrollable window. It becomes hard for the software to know which scroll you want to do with mouse/trackpad. The scroll bar makes it explicit which scrollable area you are controlling.
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