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  Dragged files show up in the corner isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-02-17 12:12 -0800
    Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-17 20:22 +0000
    Re: Dragged files show up in the corner nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-17 15:45 -0500
    Re: Dragged files show up in the corner dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-18 08:25 +1100
      Re: Dragged files show up in the corner isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-02-17 21:03 -0800
        Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-18 05:10 +0000
          Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Jack Shown <jackshown@gmail.com> - 2014-02-18 17:35 -0800
            Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-19 02:21 +0000
              Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Jack Shown <jackshown@gmail.com> - 2014-02-18 18:38 -0800
                Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-19 04:24 +0000
            Re: Dragged files show up in the corner isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-02-18 22:50 -0800
              Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-19 15:50 +0000
                Re: Dragged files show up in the corner isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-02-19 21:41 -0800
                  Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-20 16:11 +0000
                    Re: Dragged files show up in the corner isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-02-20 23:58 -0800
                      Re: Dragged files show up in the corner nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-21 05:52 -0500
        Re: Dragged files show up in the corner dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-18 17:46 +1100
          Re: Dragged files show up in the corner isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-02-18 10:19 -0800
            Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-02-18 14:25 -0500
              Re: Dragged files show up in the corner dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-19 06:56 +1100
              Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-18 20:07 +0000
                Re: Dragged files show up in the corner dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-19 08:22 +1100
              Re: Dragged files show up in the corner "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-02-18 22:16 +0000
              Re: Dragged files show up in the corner isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-02-18 22:47 -0800
                Re: Dragged files show up in the corner David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2014-02-19 14:52 -0600
                  Re: Dragged files show up in the corner isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-02-19 21:57 -0800
                    Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-20 16:19 +0000
            Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-18 19:32 +0000
              Re: Dragged files show up in the corner dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-19 07:41 +1100
                Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-18 21:57 +0000
                  Re: Dragged files show up in the corner isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-02-18 22:40 -0800
                    Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-19 15:47 +0000
                      Re: Dragged files show up in the corner isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-02-19 21:59 -0800
              Re: Dragged files show up in the corner isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-02-18 22:32 -0800
                Re: Dragged files show up in the corner dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-19 18:39 +1100
                  Re: Dragged files show up in the corner isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-02-19 22:10 -0800
                    Re: Dragged files show up in the corner dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-20 20:35 +1100
                      Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-20 16:13 +0000
                        Re: Dragged files show up in the corner dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-21 08:22 +1100
                Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-19 15:56 +0000
                  Re: Dragged files show up in the corner isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-02-19 22:05 -0800
                Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-20 15:01 +0000
            Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-20 14:54 +0000
      Re: Dragged files show up in the corner billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-18 05:37 +0000
    Re: Dragged files show up in the corner John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-02-17 17:07 -0500
      Re: Dragged files show up in the corner isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-02-17 21:00 -0800
    Re: Dragged files show up in the corner Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-18 11:52 +0000

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#56737

In article <bmk2i6Fs153U3@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-02-19, isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
> > In article <bmhqq3Fdm2cU2@mid.individual.net>,
> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2014-02-18, isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
> >> > In article <do_ray_me-B73EED.17462218022014@news.albasani.net>,
> >> >  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In article <isw-18161C.21033917022014@[216.168.3.50]>,
> >> >>  isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > In article <do_ray_me-EC937F.08252718022014@news.albasani.net>,
> >> >> >  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > > Have you set a View Option and Arrange by pref for Finder? 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Not sure what you're asking. I'm unaware of any "view option" for the 
> >> >> > desktop -- it's icons.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Click on the desktop to be in Finder. You should have a menu item 
> >> >> called View. Under that item in a dropdown there should be a sub item 
> >> >> called Arrange by... Select that and you get choices.
> >> >
> >> > That option is available for ordinary folders, but not for the desktop 
> >> > (at least in 10.8.2 ML).
> >> 
> >> Choose: View > Show View Options instead.
> >
> > That is the difference between the desktop choice and the ordinary 
> > folder one, but neither offers the "option" I was originally asking 
> > about, which is "Put the Icon Where The Cursor Was When I Let Go The 
> > Mouse Button".
> 
> That is incorrect. The option you refer to is at View > Show View
> Options > Sort by > None. It works most of the time, but occasionally
> does not work correctly, which is why this thread was started to begin
> with. Saying the option isn't there is disingenuous. The option is
> there; but as is the case with a whole lot of software, there is a bug
> that prevents it from working properly all the time in all cases.

Well, I suppose we can disagree over whether an option which does not 
work as advertised should even be called an option.

> >> >> There is also another item under the View menu called Show View 
> >> >> Options, this gives you choices for the desktop too.
> >> >
> >> > But nothing about where to put the icons. There are many more options if 
> >> > opened in an ordinary folder.
> >> 
> >> Choose: View > Show View Options instead.
> >
> > Ditto. No option says to just let the icon drop where it is.
> 
> Incorrect. See above.

OK. It suggests that, but it doesn't always *do* it.

> >> >> I find arrange by date modified to be a convenience for icons on the 
> >> >> desktop because the most recent are always where I expect them, top 
> >> >> rightish.
> >> >
> >> > I use various icon arrangements for various folders, depending. For the 
> >> > desktop, I want icons to go *right where I put them* and *stay there*.
> >> 
> >> Then choose: View Options window > Sort by > None (or Snap To Grid, if
> >> you like).
> >
> > In my original post, I observed that that does not always work on the 
> > desktop, and asked if anyone knew how to fix it.
> 
> And in a reply to you, someone asked how your desktop view settings were
> configured. Then you stated no such settings were available. Others
> tried to show you where those settings are. You never did answer the
> question, and now you are coming full circle (still without answering
> the question). Loop complete.
> 
> >> I've known about Mac OS X's desktop viewing options since they came into
> >> being. I'm a little surprised that any long-time Mac user doesn't know
> >> about them. It seems like some people don't explore software nearly to
> >> the extent that I do.
> >
> > If you've found the "put it right there" choice, I'd like to know where 
> > it is.
> 
> Others have told you previously. I just told you again.

Yes. All of you told me something that *looks like* it should work, but 
sometimes *does not*.

And that is what I wanted advice on how to fix.

> Th fact that it may not work 100% of the time has also been discussed ad
> nauseam.

Yup.

Isaac

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#56746

In message <isw-7F4736.22324618022014@[216.168.3.50]> 
  isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
> In article <bmhqq3Fdm2cU2@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>> On 2014-02-18, isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
>> > In article <do_ray_me-B73EED.17462218022014@news.albasani.net>,
>> >  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <isw-18161C.21033917022014@[216.168.3.50]>,
>> >>  isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > In article <do_ray_me-EC937F.08252718022014@news.albasani.net>,
>> >> >  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> > > Have you set a View Option and Arrange by pref for Finder? 
>> >> > 
>> >> > Not sure what you're asking. I'm unaware of any "view option" for the 
>> >> > desktop -- it's icons.
>> >> 
>> >> Click on the desktop to be in Finder. You should have a menu item 
>> >> called View. Under that item in a dropdown there should be a sub item 
>> >> called Arrange by... Select that and you get choices.
>> >
>> > That option is available for ordinary folders, but not for the desktop 
>> > (at least in 10.8.2 ML).
>> 
>> Choose: View > Show View Options instead.

> That is the difference between the desktop choice and the ordinary 
> folder one, but neither offers the "option" I was originally asking 
> about, which is "Put the Icon Where The Cursor Was When I Let Go The 
> Mouse Button".

Yes, it does. It's not labeled that, of course, it is labeled "Sort by:
none".

> In my original post, I observed that that does not always work on the 
> desktop, and asked if anyone knew how to fix it.

The only way it "doesn't work" is if you drag a group of files and drop
them, in which case the system will spread them out rather than dropping
them into one pile. You can then rearrange them to make one pile if you
like.

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#56745

In message <isw-4882B6.10194818022014@[216.168.3.50]> 
  isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
> In article <do_ray_me-B73EED.17462218022014@news.albasani.net>,
>  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

>> In article <isw-18161C.21033917022014@[216.168.3.50]>,
>>  isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > In article <do_ray_me-EC937F.08252718022014@news.albasani.net>,
>> >  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > In article <isw-23AAB2.12123917022014@[216.168.3.50]>,
>> > >  isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > > Often (but not always), when I drag a file from some other folder onto 
>> > > > the desktop, the file shows up half off the screen in the upper left 
>> > > > corner, no matter where the cursor is when I let go. If I drag several 
>> > > > files, they wind up in a pile at that location.
>> > > > 
>> > > > Why does that happen, and how can I stop it?
>> > > > 
>> > > 
>> > > Have you set a View Option and Arrange by pref for Finder? 
>> > 
>> > Not sure what you're asking. I'm unaware of any "view option" for the 
>> > desktop -- it's icons.
>> > 
>> 
>> Click on the desktop to be in Finder. You should have a menu item 
>> called View. Under that item in a dropdown there should be a sub item 
>> called Arrange by... Select that and you get choices.

> That option is available for ordinary folders, but not for the desktop 
> (at least in 10.8.2 ML).

Yes it is. I may be "Sort By" but it's been part of the finder since
System 7 days.

>> There is also another item under the View menu called Show View 
>> Options, this gives you choices for the desktop too.

> But nothing about where to put the icons. There are many more options if 
> opened in an ordinary folder.

But again, options on how to sort them.

>> I find arrange by date modified to be a convenience for icons on the 
>> desktop because the most recent are always where I expect them, top 
>> rightish.

> I use various icon arrangements for various folders, depending. For the 
> desktop, I want icons to go *right where I put them* and *stay there*.

That will only happen if there isn't another icon in the way and if
there are no sort options set.

>> Do some preference setting in the settings mentioned above and see 
>> what happens.

> As I said, they are not available for the desktop.

Yes they are.

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#56646

dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> writes, quoting
isw <isw@witzend.com>:

> > Often (but not always), when I drag a file from some other folder onto 
> > the desktop, the file shows up half off the screen in the upper left 
> > corner, no matter where the cursor is when I let go. If I drag several 
> > files, they wind up in a pile at that location.
> > 
> > Why does that happen, and how can I stop it?

Something like this happens to me when dragging anything out of the
downloads folder stack and dropping it on the desktop.  It will always
land higher and to the right (several icons worth of distance) from
where it is dropped.  This is on OS 10.9.1.

> Have you set a View Option and Arrange by pref for Finder? 

I am using the Sort by: Snap to Grid option.  The grid spacing is
set in the middle of the range of choices.  When the above occurs,
the landing position is not aligned on the grid, and frequently it
will be somewhat on top of something else that was already there
(the 20 or so items on the right side of the desktop).

Billy Y..
-- 
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	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
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#56631

On 2/17/14 3:12 PM, isw wrote:
> Often (but not always), when I drag a file from some other folder onto
> the desktop, the file shows up half off the screen in the upper left
> corner, no matter where the cursor is when I let go. If I drag several
> files, they wind up in a pile at that location.

I've seen the same behavior.

Not sure why it happens, but it's usually after I copy a 
file to the desktop that's from another volume. At first, 
I'm thinking "the file didn't copy" -- until I look up into 
the extreme upper-left-hand corner and find it partially 
visible there.

I'm wondering if this has something to do with the 
".dsStore" files?

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#56642

In article <5302881d$0$29172$862e30e2@ngroups.net>,
 John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> wrote:

> On 2/17/14 3:12 PM, isw wrote:
> > Often (but not always), when I drag a file from some other folder onto
> > the desktop, the file shows up half off the screen in the upper left
> > corner, no matter where the cursor is when I let go. If I drag several
> > files, they wind up in a pile at that location.
> 
> I've seen the same behavior.
> 
> Not sure why it happens, but it's usually after I copy a 
> file to the desktop that's from another volume. At first, 
> I'm thinking "the file didn't copy" -- until I look up into 
> the extreme upper-left-hand corner and find it partially 
> visible there.
> 
> I'm wondering if this has something to do with the 
> ".dsStore" files?

I've had that same "didn't copy" suspicion. In my case, the file was 
definitely on the same volume.

ISaac

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#56652

OS X 10.8 used to do that but 10.9 (or some setting...) has fixed it for me.

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