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  Latest OS X David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> - 2014-01-15 11:30 -0800
    Re: Latest OS X nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-15 14:36 -0500
      Re: Latest OS X Tom Joad <no@spam.nl> - 2014-01-15 20:48 +0100
        Re: Latest OS X nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-15 14:51 -0500
          Re: Latest OS X gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-15 17:03 -0800
          Re: Latest OS X Tom Joad <no@spam.nl> - 2014-01-16 20:12 +0100
      Re: Latest OS X Philo D <doozy@earthling.net.invalid> - 2014-01-15 12:52 -0700
        Re: Latest OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-16 08:57 +1300
          Re: Latest OS X Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com> - 2014-01-15 14:12 -0600
            Re: Latest OS X nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-15 15:15 -0500
            Re: Latest OS X Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-01-16 06:47 +0000
          Re: Latest OS X nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-15 15:14 -0500
        Re: Latest OS X ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-01-16 02:35 +0100
          Re: Latest OS X Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-24 21:51 +1000
            Re: Latest OS X ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-04-24 19:45 +0200
              Re: Latest OS X nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-24 14:53 -0400
              Re: Latest OS X dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-04-25 12:20 +1200
    Re: Latest OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-16 08:55 +1300
      Re: Latest OS X Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 20:05 +1000
        Re: Latest OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-19 17:24 +0000
          Re: Latest OS X ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-04-19 20:17 +0200
            Re: Latest OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-19 14:31 -0400
              Re: Latest OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-19 20:54 +0000
            Re: Latest OS X Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-04-19 22:39 -0400
              Re: Latest OS X ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-04-20 13:49 +0200
                Re: Latest OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-20 14:14 +0100
                  Re: Latest OS X ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-04-20 16:21 +0200
                    Re: Latest OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-20 11:21 -0400
                      Re: Latest OS X android <here@there.was> - 2014-04-20 17:37 +0200
                        Re: Latest OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-20 11:42 -0400
                    Re: Latest OS X billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-20 16:16 +0000
                      Re: Latest OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-20 12:50 -0400
                    Re: Latest OS X Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-04-20 15:30 -0400
                      Re: Latest OS X ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-04-20 22:26 +0200
                        Re: Latest OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-21 04:07 +0000
                      Re: Latest OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-20 22:18 +0100
                        Re: Latest OS X billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-21 02:16 +0000
                          Re: Latest OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-21 08:48 +0100
                        Re: Latest OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-21 04:09 +0000
                          Re: Latest OS X Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-25 20:58 +1000
                            Re: Latest OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-27 21:43 +0000
                              Re: Latest OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-27 19:09 -0400
                      Re: Latest OS X dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-21 10:01 +1000
                        Re: Latest OS X ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-04-21 03:15 +0200
                          Re: Latest OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-21 04:11 +0000
                          Re: Latest OS X dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-22 06:59 +1000
                            Re: Latest OS X ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-04-21 23:35 +0200
                              Re: Latest OS X dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-22 11:21 +1000
                                Re: Latest OS X ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-04-22 03:40 +0200
                                  Re: Latest OS X dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-22 13:08 +1000
                                    Re: Latest OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-22 04:13 +0000
                    Re: Latest OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-21 04:00 +0000
                      Re: Latest OS X billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-21 17:29 +0000
            Re: Latest OS X Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-04-20 20:15 -0700
        Re: Latest OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-20 10:07 +1200
          Re: Latest OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-19 18:09 -0400
          Re: Latest OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-19 22:09 +0000
          Re: Latest OS X billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-19 23:54 +0000
    Re: Latest OS X David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> - 2014-01-15 13:07 -0800
      Re: Latest OS X nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-15 16:30 -0500
        Re: Latest OS X John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-01-15 20:16 -0500
          Re: Latest OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-16 01:59 +0000
          Re: Latest OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-15 19:12 -0700
          Re: Latest OS X nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-15 23:03 -0500
          Re: Latest OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-16 18:17 +1300
      Re: Latest OS X Fred McKenzie <fmmck@aol.com> - 2014-01-15 17:09 -0500
      Re: Latest OS X Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 20:07 +1000
    Re: Latest OS X David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> - 2014-01-15 15:16 -0800
      Re: Latest OS X J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-15 18:27 -0500
      Re: Latest OS X nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-15 18:37 -0500
      Re: Latest OS X dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-01-16 14:02 +1300
        Re: Latest OS X Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com> - 2014-01-15 22:23 -0600
          Re: Latest OS X Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> - 2014-01-16 12:43 +0000
            Re: Latest OS X "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> - 2014-01-16 15:14 +0000
              Re: Latest OS X Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-23 16:00 +1000
          Re: Latest OS X dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-01-17 10:11 +1300
      Re: Latest OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-16 02:00 +0000
    Re: Latest OS X Earl Grey <earl@t.net> - 2014-01-15 18:30 -0500
      Re: Latest OS X John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-01-24 22:36 +0000

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#54770

On 1/15/14 4:30 PM, nospam wrote:
> mavericks (and mountain lion that preceded it) is only available via
> the app store.

That's not so.

Mavericks is also available from "other sources" as well.
That's where I obtained it from, because I don't have an app 
store account.
Since there's no revenue to Apple involved, I have no qualms 
about that.

If you want to obtain it, I suggest you pair the words 
"Mavericks" and "torrent", and see what comes up...

The flame suit is on.

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#54772

In message <52d732e4$0$29639$862e30e2@ngroups.net> 
  John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> wrote:
> On 1/15/14 4:30 PM, nospam wrote:
>> mavericks (and mountain lion that preceded it) is only available via
>> the app store.

> That's not so.

Yes it is.

> Mavericks is also available from "other sources" as well.

Stealing free software seems rather stupid (and stupidly risky) to me,
but whatever.

-- 
Let him who desires peace, prepare for war.

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#54774

In article <52d732e4$0$29639$862e30e2@ngroups.net>, John Albert
<j.albert@snet.net> wrote:

> > mavericks (and mountain lion that preceded it) is only available via
> > the app store.
> 
> That's not so.
> 
> Mavericks is also available from "other sources" as well.

Not legally.

> That's where I obtained it from, because I don't have an app 
> store account.

You can get an account for free.

> Since there's no revenue to Apple involved,

Irrelevant.

> I have no qualms about that.

That says a lot about you.

> If you want to obtain it, I suggest you pair the words 
> "Mavericks" and "torrent", and see what comes up...

How about "Malware"?

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#54775

In article <52d732e4$0$29639$862e30e2@ngroups.net>, John Albert
<j.albert@snet.net> wrote:

> > mavericks (and mountain lion that preceded it) is only available via
> > the app store.
> 
> That's not so.

yes it is.

> Mavericks is also available from "other sources" as well.
> That's where I obtained it from, because I don't have an app 
> store account.

it takes less than a minute to get an account, and no credit card is
needed. 

> Since there's no revenue to Apple involved, I have no qualms 
> about that.

apparently you have no claims about violating the law.

besides, who the hell pirates free software?

> If you want to obtain it, I suggest you pair the words 
> "Mavericks" and "torrent", and see what comes up...

then search for copyright infringement and ethics.

> The flame suit is on.

as it should be.

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#54777

In article <52d732e4$0$29639$862e30e2@ngroups.net>, John Albert
<j.albert@snet.net> wrote:

> On 1/15/14 4:30 PM, nospam wrote:
> > mavericks (and mountain lion that preceded it) is only available via
> > the app store.
> 
> That's not so.
> 
> Mavericks is also available from "other sources" as well.
> That's where I obtained it from, because I don't have an app 
> store account.
> Since there's no revenue to Apple involved, I have no qualms 
> about that.
> 
> If you want to obtain it, I suggest you pair the words 
> "Mavericks" and "torrent", and see what comes up...
> 
> The flame suit is on.

Ignoring the legalities, the problem with getting it through unofficial
sources is there a possibility of some moron having mucked about with
the installer and you're Mac ending up either unstable or with malware
on it.

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#54761

In article <e2ae2f7f-ed2d-4ff8-85e0-1d2ba1a842ad@googlegroups.com>,
 David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:30:49 PM UTC-5, David Downing wrote:
> > Is snow Leopard the latest version of OS X?
> 
> I can't seem to find mavericks for sale on Amazon. Would I have to buy Snow 
> Leopard and upgrade from there via the internet?

David-

Based on your line of questioning, your computer may not be capable of 
working with Mavericks.  According to Apple's website,

Mac models compatible with Mavericks:
   €	iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)
   €	MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer)
   €	MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer)
   €	MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer)
   €	Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer)
   €	Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer)
   €	Xserve (Early 2009)

If yours is on this list and is currently running Leopard, then yes you 
would have to buy Snow Leopard and then upgrade via the internet.

If your computer is not on the list, you may still benefit from 
upgrading to the highest version your computer can use.  If you need to 
sync an iPhone or other i-Device with iTunes, you would need at least 
Snow Leopard upgraded to 10.6.8.  But be sure your computer can work 
with Snow Leopard before you spend the money!

Fred

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#58646

On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 13:07:48 -0800 (PST), David Downing
<david.h.downing@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:30:49 PM UTC-5, David Downing wrote:
>> Is snow Leopard the latest version of OS X?
>
>I can't seem to find mavericks for sale on Amazon. Would I have to buy
>Snow Leopard and upgrade from there via the internet?

Mavericks is a free downgrade.

-- 
Creationists - get educated before you argue,
And when you're corrected, try to learn something. 

Creationists only need know that
Evolution is important proven science
and
creation is made up nonsense

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#54764

On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:30:49 PM UTC-5, David Downing wrote:
> Is snow Leopard the latest version of OS X?

looks like I'm running 10.6.8. Does that mean I can get mavericks for free?

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#54765

On 1/15/14, 6:16 PM, David Downing wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:30:49 PM UTC-5, David Downing wrote:
>> Is snow Leopard the latest version of OS X?
>
> looks like I'm running 10.6.8. Does that mean I can get mavericks for free?
>
http://www.apple.com/osx/how-to-upgrade/

I don't know if your machine is on the list.  I backed up first in case 
my internal disk got messed up.  The download was 5GB, and the process 
took an hour after that.

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#54767

In article <ffd2addb-5d4b-4845-9def-b26d7062dc49@googlegroups.com>,
David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> wrote:

> looks like I'm running 10.6.8. Does that mean I can get mavericks for free?

yes.

launch the app store and download it.

however, you should be sure your computer can run it first.

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#54768

David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:30:49 PM UTC-5, David Downing wrote:
> > Is snow Leopard the latest version of OS X?
> 
> looks like I'm running 10.6.8. Does that mean I can get mavericks for free?

Yes, as long as your Mac is compatible.

http://www.apple.com/osx/specs/

Note in particular the list of compatible models (all models introduced
in March 2009 or later, some models as far back as mid 2007, but none of
the 2006 models), the minimum memory requirement, and the minimum free
disk space.

If you aren't sure exactly which model you have, you can use System
Profiler (see below) to find the "Model Identifier" on the initial
Overview screen it displays, which indicates the family and specific
generation of your Mac, in a string along the lines of "MacBookPro3,1".
Given that, you can ask here or do a web search to find which model that
is (that particuar example is a mid 2007 MacBook Pro).

As far as memory is concerned, you must have at least 2 GB, and I'd
recommend at least 4 GB for better performance. If you need more memory,
there are various sources for buying it, and installing it is relatively
easy in most Mac models. (It would be helpful if you at least mentioned
which Mac model you have.) The maximum memory which can be installed
varies between models, and is generally higher in more recent models
than earlier ones.


Also check whether you are still running any PowerPC-only applications
that won't work on OS X 10.7 or later. Common ones are Microsoft Office
2004 or earlier (2008 or later is OK), Adobe CS2 or earlier (CS3 or
later is OK), AppleWorks, Eudora.

If so, you will need to replace them with a different application,
upgrade to a later version (if the application hasn't been
discontinued), stop using them, or find a way to allow ongoing use (such
as running Snow Leopard Server in a virtual machine, or setting up a
dual-boot system where you can occasionally boot into Snow Leopard to
run older software).

You can get a list of installed applications and their kind via System
Profiler, which you can run via Apple menu > About This Mac > More Info.
Click on the Applications category in the left column, wait for the list
to populate, then look down the "Kind" column, or click on that column
heading to sort by kind.

These are the main kinds of applications:

Classic: already won't work on Snow Leopard (required Mac OS 9 or
earlier, or the Classic environment in Mac OS X 10.0 through 10.4 on a
PowerPC Mac).

PowerPC: won't run on OS X 10.7 or later.

Intel or Universal: able to run on OS X 10.7 or later but individual
applications might need free updates or paid upgrades to fix
compatibility issues.


Assuming you are satifisfied that your Mac will be able to run Mavericks
and you won't have to worry about application compatibility...

I recommend doing a full system backup to an external hard drive before
upgrading to a new OS X version, in case something goes wrong and you
need to revert back to the old system.

You can get Mavericks it by running App Store (in your Applications
folder if it isn't on your Dock), signing in with your Apple ID
(creating a new one first if necessary), then locate OS X Mavericks (it
should be on the front page) and click the FREE button to download it.
It is about 5.3 GB to download. The installer runs automatically once
downloaded.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#54776

On 1/15/14, 7:02 PM, David Empson wrote:
> Classic: already won't work on Snow Leopard (required Mac OS 9 or
> earlier, or the Classic environment in Mac OS X 10.0 through 10.4 on a
> PowerPC Mac).

I haven't read the rest of this thread, so somebody else might already 
have made this point, but SheepShaver will let you run OS 9.0.4 (or 
earlier, for some versions of earlier) and any software that will run on 
them -- provided you have suitable disk images of them.  (Something that 
was only on a floppy would probably be tricky to load!)


-- 
Ted

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#54779

Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/15/14, 7:02 PM, David Empson wrote:
>> Classic: already won't work on Snow Leopard (required Mac OS 9 or
>> earlier, or the Classic environment in Mac OS X 10.0 through 10.4 on a
>> PowerPC Mac).
> 
> I haven't read the rest of this thread, so somebody else might already
> have made this point, but SheepShaver will let you run OS 9.0.4 (or
> earlier, for some versions of earlier) and any software that will run on
> them -- provided you have suitable disk images of them.  (Something that
> was only on a floppy would probably be tricky to load!)
> 

I never could get Sheepshaver to run games without serious sound and
graphic errors. But it did work passably well for apps like WordPerfect for
Mac.

-- 
"The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is
that it has never tried to contact us." - Calvin and Hobbes (Bill
Watterson)

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#54780

Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
>
> I never could get Sheepshaver to run games without serious sound and
> graphic errors. But it did work passably well for apps like WordPerfect for
> Mac.
>
I think that's a reasonable thing to assume. 

Used G5's seem to have (relatively) held their value, while G4's have become
give away (please take them so I don't have to drag them to the recycle place)
items.

There are a few G4's with some value, such as the mini (which by now needs
an almost impossible to find memory upgrade) and a new PRAM battery,
and the last generation of laptop, if you can find one without a bad 
memory socket. They don't go for much. :-)

Tiger is a good operating system for them, the last one that runs Classic mode.

Geoff.

-- 
Geoffrey S. Mendelson,  N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379

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#58803

On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 15:14:18 +0000 (UTC), "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"
<gsm@mendelson.com> wrote:

>Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
>>
>> I never could get Sheepshaver to run games without serious sound and
>> graphic errors. But it did work passably well for apps like WordPerfect for
>> Mac.
>>
>I think that's a reasonable thing to assume. 
>
>Used G5's seem to have (relatively) held their value, while G4's have become
>give away (please take them so I don't have to drag them to the recycle place)
>items.
>
>There are a few G4's with some value, such as the mini (which by now needs
>an almost impossible to find memory upgrade) and a new PRAM battery,
>and the last generation of laptop, if you can find one without a bad 
>memory socket. They don't go for much. :-)

I have a rather cool G4 iBook. 1.33 Ghz CPU. 768 MB RAM.
60 GB hard drive.

>Tiger is a good operating system for them, the last one that runs Classic mode.
>
>Geoff.
>
>-- 
>Geoffrey S. Mendelson,  N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379

-- 
Creationists - get educated before you argue,
And when you're corrected, try to learn something. 

Creationists only need know that
Evolution is important proven science
and
creation is made up nonsense

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#54783

Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 1/15/14, 7:02 PM, David Empson wrote:
> > Classic: already won't work on Snow Leopard (required Mac OS 9 or
> > earlier, or the Classic environment in Mac OS X 10.0 through 10.4 on a
> > PowerPC Mac).
> 
> I haven't read the rest of this thread, so somebody else might already
> have made this point, but SheepShaver will let you run OS 9.0.4 (or 
> earlier, for some versions of earlier) and any software that will run on
> them -- provided you have suitable disk images of them.  (Something that
> was only on a floppy would probably be tricky to load!)

Good point, thanks.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#54773

In message <ffd2addb-5d4b-4845-9def-b26d7062dc49@googlegroups.com> 
  David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:30:49 PM UTC-5, David Downing wrote:
>> Is snow Leopard the latest version of OS X?

> looks like I'm running 10.6.8. Does that mean I can get mavericks for free?

Yes. Open up the App Store and click on it. If your machine cannot run
it, it will tell you and won't download.

-- 
he'd moved like music, like someone dancing to a rhythm inside his head.
And his face for a moment in the moonlight was the skull of an angel...

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#54766

On 1/15/14, 2:30 PM, David Downing wrote:
> Is snow Leopard the latest version of OS X?
>


Nice troll dude-- you sure sucked them in ;-)

--
The lion may be king of the jungle but airdrop him into Antarctica and 
he's just a penguin's bitch.
                      -- Capt. James Pickett, USA

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#55291

On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:30:13 -0500, Earl Grey <earl@t.net> wrote:

>On 1/15/14, 2:30 PM, David Downing wrote:
>> Is snow Leopard the latest version of OS X?

 It is the latest version ever to run on my wife's Macbook if that
helps you any.
 Which it probably doesn't.

>>
>
>
>Nice troll dude-- you sure sucked them in ;-)

  Now, now, play nice. He's not a troll until people start squabbling
over what he says. Trolls start flamewars. This one is merely a lamer.
Or maybe a noob. Yes, he *could* be a genuine noob.
  Or from Mars. Or have lived in a deep cave for three years or more.
Or not have Internet access. Though that last is a little problematic
considering his communication.
                                   J. 

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