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Grammar Gripe

Started bySalmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net>
First post2013-12-21 11:21 -0800
Last post2013-12-28 18:55 +1300
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  Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-21 11:21 -0800
    Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-21 21:09 +0000
      Re: Grammar Gripe Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-21 13:15 -0800
      Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-21 13:41 -0800
        Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-21 13:54 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-22 11:21 +1300
            Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-21 18:36 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-22 16:45 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-22 23:35 +0000
              Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 00:44 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-23 23:47 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-22 21:58 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-23 09:13 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-24 16:45 -0800
            Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-22 23:38 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-22 21:58 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-23 19:09 +1300
                  Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-23 09:05 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-23 18:58 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-24 14:06 +1300
                      Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-23 18:36 -0800
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-24 18:14 +1300
                          Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 07:56 -0800
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 09:14 +1300
                              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:19 -0800
                                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-24 17:45 -0500
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2013-12-25 01:43 -0800
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-25 08:58 -0800
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 00:29 -0500
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-24 18:51 +1300
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 00:59 -0500
                              Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-24 19:14 +1300
                              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 07:59 -0800
                                Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 12:07 -0800
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 09:36 +1300
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 12:52 -0800
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-24 16:31 -0500
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-24 17:11 -0500
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:49 -0800
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-24 23:56 +0000
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:15 -0800
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 16:59 -0800
                                          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:22 +1300
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe "Ed H." <fake@notreal.net> - 2013-12-27 13:30 -0600
                                Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-12-24 22:02 +0000
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:20 -0800
                          Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 07:58 -0800
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-24 12:47 -0500
                              Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-24 13:09 -0500
                                Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 12:09 -0800
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 12:18 -0800
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 09:38 +1300
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-24 17:18 -0500
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:52 -0800
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-24 18:44 -0500
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 17:03 -0800
                                          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:24 +1300
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-24 23:05 -0500
                                          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:50 +1300
                                            Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-25 13:28 -0500
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 15:52 -0800
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 13:54 +1300
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 17:10 -0800
                                          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:26 +1300
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-12-25 04:34 +0000
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:52 +1300
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 21:34 -0800
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-24 15:16 -0500
                                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:11 -0800
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-26 19:00 -0800
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-27 08:20 -0500
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-27 10:48 -0800
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-27 18:52 -0500
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-28 10:20 -0500
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:50 -0800
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-28 09:27 -0800
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:51 -0800
                                          Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-28 13:07 -0800
                                            Re: Semantics Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-29 18:17 +0100
                                              Re: Semantics Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-29 12:34 -0500
                                                Re: Semantics Gripe Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-29 14:53 -0800
                                              Re: Semantics Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-29 10:56 -0800
                                                Re: Semantics Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-29 21:55 +0100
                              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:04 -0800
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-26 16:28 -0500
                          Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-24 18:22 -0500
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-25 00:02 +0000
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 13:15 +1300
                              Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-26 23:30 -0500
                                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-27 10:51 -0800
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-27 18:36 -0500
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-27 21:08 -0800
                      Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-24 18:03 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-01 17:55 +1100
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-01 11:41 -0700
                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-01 11:29 -0800
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-02 09:10 +1300
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-01 13:49 -0700
                        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-01 15:38 -0800
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-02 13:16 +1300
                            Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-01 17:31 -0800
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-02 09:10 +0000
                            Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-02 11:47 -0800
                              Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-02 22:17 +0000
                                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-02 15:29 -0800
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-02 18:33 -0800
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-01 13:46 -0700
                        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-01 15:41 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-23 23:42 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 08:03 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe bob <rcp27g@gmail.com> - 2013-12-22 10:49 +0000
            Re: Grammar Gripe "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-12-22 16:54 +0000
            Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2013-12-26 10:37 +1100
              Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-26 18:32 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-26 05:36 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-26 09:30 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-31 18:35 +1300
          Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2013-12-23 10:59 +1100
        Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-22 11:34 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 00:45 -0500
      Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-22 04:58 +0000
    Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-21 20:11 -0500
    Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-12-22 15:43 +0000
      Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-22 11:53 -0500
        Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-22 22:35 +0000
          Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-22 18:08 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-23 09:07 +0000
              Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-23 04:12 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-23 15:15 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-23 15:39 +0000
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-23 18:46 +0000
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 21:03 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-24 04:52 -0500
          Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-22 22:02 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 01:04 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-23 19:41 +1300
            Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-23 11:27 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-23 09:55 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-23 13:33 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 21:05 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 21:04 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-23 18:40 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 22:19 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-24 10:15 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 08:01 -0800
        Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-22 15:10 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-22 18:23 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-22 15:29 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 00:49 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-23 02:35 -0500
    Re: Grammar Gripe Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-22 10:32 -0600
      Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-22 12:36 -0500
      Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-22 11:40 -0800
        Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-22 16:06 -0500
          Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-22 15:18 -0800
            Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-22 23:41 +0000
              Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-23 09:26 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-23 18:47 +0000
            Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-23 23:39 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 00:46 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-24 19:10 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-25 04:34 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-25 14:17 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-25 18:36 -0800
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-26 01:18 -0500
                      Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-26 07:59 -0500
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-26 05:41 -0800
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-26 09:53 -0500
                            Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-26 21:27 -0500
                              Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-27 02:06 -0500
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Joe W DiDomenico <joedid@outlook.com> - 2013-12-27 08:03 -0500
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-27 10:43 -0800
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-26 19:16 -0800
                              Re: Grammar Gripe Joe W DiDomenico <joedid@outlook.com> - 2013-12-27 08:04 -0500
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 20:00 +1000
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-04-19 10:42 -0700
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-26 09:52 -0500
                          Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-26 10:44 -0500
                            Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-26 10:00 -0800
                              Re: Grammar Gripe henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2013-12-27 13:22 +0200
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-27 10:18 -0500
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-12-27 15:57 +0000
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2013-12-27 18:34 +0200
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-27 12:43 -0500
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-28 14:41 -0800
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 11:00 -0500
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 10:57 -0500
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-28 09:11 -0800
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-28 14:18 -0500
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Joe Di Domenico <joedid@email.com> - 2013-12-28 14:46 -0500
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2013-12-31 11:54 +0200
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 10:47 -0800
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-31 14:13 -0500
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 20:04 +1000
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-19 15:55 -0400
                                          Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-19 21:20 +0100
                                            Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-19 17:21 -0400
                                              Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-04-19 17:22 -0700
                                                Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-04-20 03:16 +0000
                                                  Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-20 00:00 -0400
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-19 08:40 -0400
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-04-19 10:54 -0400
                              Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 20:02 +1000
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-19 08:34 -0400
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-19 15:09 +0000
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-20 08:51 +1000
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-04-19 22:37 -0400
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-20 12:36 +0200
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-04-20 07:03 -0700
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-20 17:33 +0200
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> - 2014-04-21 07:57 -0400
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-20 03:23 +0200
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-04-20 03:11 +0000
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-27 09:35 -0400
                                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-19 15:51 -0400
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-26 15:56 -0500
                              Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-26 17:07 -0500
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-27 12:05 +1300
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-27 21:52 -0800
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Joe W DiDomenico <joedid@outlook.com> - 2013-12-28 09:48 -0500
                              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:47 -0800
                        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-26 09:48 -0800
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-27 09:38 +1300
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 19:59 +1000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 19:58 +1000
              Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-23 22:18 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 04:06 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-12-24 14:19 +0000
                    Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-24 10:17 -0500
                      Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 08:03 -0800
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-24 13:14 -0500
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-24 20:01 +0000
                        Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-24 15:19 -0500
                      Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 12:14 -0800
                        Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-24 16:05 -0500
                          Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 15:55 -0800
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 13:07 +1300
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 17:08 -0800
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:25 +1300
                          Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-28 14:46 -0800
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 09:11 +1300
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 20:54 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-24 13:00 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 10:21 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 12:12 -0800
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 09:40 +1300
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 13:37 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-25 04:42 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-24 16:20 +0000
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 09:49 -0800
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-24 19:59 +0000
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-24 15:38 -0600
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 21:04 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-24 20:03 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-25 10:53 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-25 11:17 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 19:55 +1000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-19 13:42 +0000
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-04-19 06:52 -0700
                  Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-20 09:24 +1000
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-04-19 22:35 -0400
                    Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-19 23:56 -0400
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-04-19 21:02 -0700
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-04-19 21:16 -0700
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-20 13:43 +0100
            Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2013-12-28 16:34 +1100
              Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-28 18:39 +1300
              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:45 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-28 14:57 -0800
        Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-22 23:36 +0100
          Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-22 22:54 +0000
            Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-23 03:20 +0100
              Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-22 22:07 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-23 09:56 +0100
                  Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-23 04:10 -0500
      Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-22 11:45 -0800
      Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-22 23:38 +0000
      Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 00:50 -0500
      Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2013-12-28 16:24 +1100
        Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-28 08:55 +0000
          Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-28 04:27 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-28 10:09 +0000
              Re: Grammar Gripe Joe W DiDomenico <joedid@outlook.com> - 2013-12-28 09:39 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:37 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-29 08:18 +1100
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-28 22:36 +0000
                    Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-29 15:07 +1100
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-28 17:27 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 04:24 +0000
                    Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-30 17:34 +1100
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-30 10:04 +0100
                      Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 10:31 -0500
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-30 19:25 +0100
                          Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 13:56 -0500
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 11:48 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-01-02 15:10 +0000
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-01-03 01:21 +0000
                      Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-02 21:21 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:34 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-28 22:17 +1100
          Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 11:06 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-28 09:15 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-29 09:42 +1300
              Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 16:08 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-28 14:01 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 17:49 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-28 18:04 -0500
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 19:06 -0500
                        Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-28 22:17 -0500
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 22:38 -0500
                            Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-29 01:12 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 21:41 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 04:27 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 00:51 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-30 01:54 -0800
                    Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 11:57 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-30 07:39 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-30 08:55 -0700
                    Re: Grammar Gripe JoeWolfDee <joedid@email.com> - 2013-12-30 11:13 -0500
                      Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-30 17:11 -0500
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-30 18:29 -0700
                          Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-30 17:32 -0800
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-31 15:56 +1300
                              Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-30 21:32 -0700
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 20:44 -0800
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-31 18:25 +1300
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 22:41 -0800
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 10:41 -0800
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-31 15:27 +0000
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-31 14:42 -0700
                              Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-31 02:33 -0500
                                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 10:42 -0800
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-01 09:50 +1300
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-31 14:24 -0700
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 14:51 -0800
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-31 17:09 -0800
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-01 09:34 +0000
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-10 18:16 -0800
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-31 13:04 +0100
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2013-12-31 03:03 +0000
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 20:44 -0800
                          Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-10 18:20 -0800
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-11 16:17 +1300
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-31 18:29 +1300
                        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 10:46 -0800
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-31 14:31 -0500
                            Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 12:42 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-30 09:27 -0800
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-30 19:29 +0100
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 11:52 -0800
                        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-30 16:12 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 17:53 +0000
            Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-29 08:01 +1100
        Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-28 05:31 -0500
          Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:39 -0800
            Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-28 14:38 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 12:55 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-29 10:28 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 17:59 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-28 18:58 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 23:26 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 21:46 -0800
                      Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-29 01:21 -0500
        Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-28 09:23 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-29 08:44 +1100
        Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 04:22 +0000
          Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-29 21:13 -0800
            Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-30 00:21 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-29 22:44 -0700
              Re: Grammar Gripe Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-29 21:49 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-30 09:26 +0000
            Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 12:14 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-30 09:23 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 12:51 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-30 16:11 -0800
                    Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 21:13 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 11:54 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-30 17:26 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-30 22:41 +0000
                    Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-30 18:11 -0500
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-30 23:25 +0000
          Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-29 22:37 -0700
            Re: Uniqueness Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-31 13:21 +0100
              Re: Uniqueness gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 10:52 -0800
              Re: Uniqueness Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-31 14:47 -0700
                Re: Uniqueness gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 14:55 -0800
                Re: Uniqueness Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2014-01-01 00:32 +0100
    Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-22 23:33 +0100
    Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2013-12-23 10:57 +1100
    Re: Grammar Gripe bob <rcp27g@gmail.com> - 2013-12-23 00:00 +0000
    Re: Grammar Gripe RonTheGuy@null.invalid (Ron) - 2013-12-27 21:36 -0800
      Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-28 18:55 +1300

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#53954

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2013-12-28 10:47 -0800
Message-ID<2013122810475259274-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#53937
On 2013-12-28 14:48:34 +0000, Joe W DiDomenico said:

> [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see
>    the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]
> 
> In article <271220132152224031%leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>, Leonard
> Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> Give him a break. He can expand his mind with this (after the cheesy
>> commercial):
>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ns9djGa-7I>
> 
> Thanks for this. I learned a lot, too.
> 
> But it brings up a request: I would love it if one of you coding geeks
> could write an applet to suppress the volume automatically during the
> ever-present and increasing number of PIA ads on Facebook. Sometimes I
> can't manage to hit the Mute button fast enough. Thanks.

This reminds me that I'm still pondering the best way to work a plug-in 
for iTunes whereby a bass or drum solo can be identified and neatly 
skipped over, like it was an advertisement.

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#53882

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2013-12-26 09:48 -0800
Message-ID<2013122609484032505-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#53875
On 2013-12-26 12:59:46 +0000, J Burns said:

> On 12/26/13, 1:18 AM, Barry Margolin wrote:
>> In article <l9favd$2vh$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 12/25/13, 7:34 AM, Salmon Egg wrote:
>>>> In article <barmar-B39A80.00463424122013@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The term "quantum leap" when used outside physics is a metaphor for the
>>>>> fact that quantum changes are sudden and discontinous. While they're
>>>>> miniscule with respect to the macroscopic universe, they're quite abrupt
>>>>> in the sub-atomic realm.
>>>> 
>>>> There are some words that are oxymorons in themselves. The one that
>>>> sticks out most in my mind is "cleave." You cleave a gem to separate it
>>>> into two parts. When two people cleave together you end up with holy
>>>> matrimony.
>>>> 
>>> They're homonyms which, for convenience, are spelled the same.  "Cleave"
>>> means "klieben," or "split."  "Cleave," on the other hand, meand
>>> "kleben," or "stick."
>> 
>> The interesting thing is that they've been extremely similar words for a
>> *long* time. The Mac dictionary says that the first definition comes
>> from the Old English "cleofan", while the second one comes from Old
>> English "cleofian".
>> 
>> Usually homonyms are the result of differing words converging on a
>> similar pronunciation. But these two have been nearly homophones for
>> ages.
>> 
> 
> I thought I was joking.  Until I checked my Mac dictionary, I didn't 
> realize that homonyms include words spelled the same.  I should of went 
> to a better school!

You still should oughta!

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#53889

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2013-12-27 09:38 +1300
Message-ID<271220130938228560%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#53875
In article <l9h983$j2l$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
wrote:
> 
<snip>
>
> I should of went to a better school!

Yep, then you could speak English proper like what we does.  ;-)

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#58641

FromBarry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au>
Date2014-04-19 19:59 +1000
Message-ID<96i4l91elcha80uetec05m1pisgqtquq2c@4ax.com>
In reply to#53851
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 04:34:21 -0800, Salmon Egg
<SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>In article <barmar-B39A80.00463424122013@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> The term "quantum leap" when used outside physics is a metaphor for the 
>> fact that quantum changes are sudden and discontinous. While they're 
>> miniscule with respect to the macroscopic universe, they're quite abrupt 
>> in the sub-atomic realm.
>
>There are some words that are oxymorons in themselves. The one that 
>sticks out most in my mind is "cleave." You cleave a gem to separate it 
>into two parts.

That's not true.

>When two people cleave together you end up with holy 
>matrimony.

-- 
Creationists - get educated before you argue,
And when you're corrected, try to learn something. 

Creationists only need know that
Evolution is important proven science
and
creation is made up nonsense

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#58640

FromBarry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au>
Date2014-04-19 19:58 +1000
Message-ID<91i4l9p7qo1fqa5ibhtbich8926me0p9f4@4ax.com>
In reply to#53744
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 00:46:34 -0500, Barry Margolin
<barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

>In article <231220132339596748%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
>wrote:
>
>> Savageduck:
>> > You can add to those the general lack of understanding and use of 
>> > "quantum leap" vs Paradigm shift...
>> 
>> One of my favorite error, in fact, possibly the largest error that can
>> be. A quantum leap is said to be a huge difference, a sea change. In
>> fact, the quantum is the smallest possible size, or quantity, in the
>> Universe. A quantum leap would be a "leap" of 1.62 X 10E-35 meters--the
>> Planck length, the smallest distance that can be.
>
>The term "quantum leap" when used outside physics is a metaphor for the 
>fact that quantum changes are sudden and discontinous. While they're 
>miniscule with respect to the macroscopic universe, they're quite abrupt 
>in the sub-atomic realm.
>
>In general, you can't expect metaphors to adopt all the nuances of the 
>concept from which they're derived. They often pick just one salient 
>feature of the original concept. In this case it's the abruptness.

In ordinary use quantum leap means an unjustified assumption just 
as with quantum mechanics it is falsely assumed that what you see
is what is actually happening.

-- 
Creationists - get educated before you argue,
And when you're corrected, try to learn something. 

Creationists only need know that
Evolution is important proven science
and
creation is made up nonsense

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#53751

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2013-12-23 22:18 -0800
Message-ID<2013122322185268412-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
In reply to#53739
On 2013-12-24 04:39:59 +0000, Davoud <star@sky.net> said:

> Savageduck:
>> You can add to those the general lack of understanding and use of
>> "quantum leap" vs Paradigm shift...
> 
> One of my favorite error, in fact, possibly the largest error that can
> be. A quantum leap is said to be a huge difference, a sea change. In
> fact, the quantum is the smallest possible size, or quantity, in the
> Universe. A quantum leap would be a "leap" of 1.62 X 10E-35 meters--the
> Planck length, the smallest distance that can be.

Exactly! That was the point I was trying to make.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#53753

FromBarry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Date2013-12-24 04:06 -0500
Message-ID<barmar-9A0007.04061124122013@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#53751
In article <2013122322185268412-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> On 2013-12-24 04:39:59 +0000, Davoud <star@sky.net> said:
> 
> > Savageduck:
> >> You can add to those the general lack of understanding and use of
> >> "quantum leap" vs Paradigm shift...
> > 
> > One of my favorite error, in fact, possibly the largest error that can
> > be. A quantum leap is said to be a huge difference, a sea change. In
> > fact, the quantum is the smallest possible size, or quantity, in the
> > Universe. A quantum leap would be a "leap" of 1.62 X 10E-35 meters--the
> > Planck length, the smallest distance that can be.
> 
> Exactly! That was the point I was trying to make.

So you also don't understand that when the term is being used in common 
language it's a metaphor, not a literal reference to the physical 
process in quantum mechanics.

Not realizing that much of natural language is metaphorical is a reason 
for many of these peeves. The people who think that "decimate" can only 
refer to killing 90% of the population don't understand that it long ago 
lost its original Latin meaning, and just adopted the metaphorical 
meaning of killing large numbers.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#53755

Fromme@home.spamsucks.ca (Király)
Date2013-12-24 14:19 +0000
Message-ID<l9c56f$roq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#53753
Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> Not realizing that much of natural language is metaphorical is a reason 
> for many of these peeves. The people who think that "decimate" can only 
> refer to killing 90% of the population don't understand that it long ago 
> lost its original Latin meaning, and just adopted the metaphorical 
> meaning of killing large numbers.

The odd thing about English is that it's the only major language without 
an official regulator. No dictionary, style guide, thesaurus, or grammar 
textbook is official or authoritative. It's just an opinion. No body has 
the authority to decide for the rest of us what is and isn't correct 
meaning and usage. We all make those decisions together and they change 
over time.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#53757

FromJ Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
Date2013-12-24 10:17 -0500
Message-ID<l9c8hp$gm5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#53755
On 12/24/13, 9:19 AM, Király wrote:
> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>> Not realizing that much of natural language is metaphorical is a reason
>> for many of these peeves. The people who think that "decimate" can only
>> refer to killing 90% of the population don't understand that it long ago
>> lost its original Latin meaning, and just adopted the metaphorical
>> meaning of killing large numbers.
>
> The odd thing about English is that it's the only major language without
> an official regulator. No dictionary, style guide, thesaurus, or grammar
> textbook is official or authoritative. It's just an opinion. No body has
> the authority to decide for the rest of us what is and isn't correct
> meaning and usage. We all make those decisions together and they change
> over time.
>
English is not the official language of the UK, the US, or Australia. 
If you want to hear it spoken correctly, go to India.

The one that bugs me is "by and large," an order given to a helmsman to 
steer with the wind behind him but not directly behind him (lest the 
mainsail empty other sails).  When I was a teen, it became a popular way 
for academics to fudge their statements.

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#53762

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2013-12-24 08:03 -0800
Message-ID<2013122408031763903-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#53757
On 2013-12-24 15:17:15 +0000, J Burns said:

> On 12/24/13, 9:19 AM, Király wrote:
>> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>> Not realizing that much of natural language is metaphorical is a reason
>>> for many of these peeves. The people who think that "decimate" can only
>>> refer to killing 90% of the population don't understand that it long ago
>>> lost its original Latin meaning, and just adopted the metaphorical
>>> meaning of killing large numbers.
>> 
>> The odd thing about English is that it's the only major language without
>> an official regulator. No dictionary, style guide, thesaurus, or grammar
>> textbook is official or authoritative. It's just an opinion. No body has
>> the authority to decide for the rest of us what is and isn't correct
>> meaning and usage. We all make those decisions together and they change
>> over time.
>> 
> English is not the official language of the UK, the US, or Australia. 
> If you want to hear it spoken correctly, go to India.
> 
> The one that bugs me is "by and large," an order given to a helmsman to 
> steer with the wind behind him but not directly behind him (lest the 
> mainsail empty other sails).  When I was a teen, it became a popular 
> way for academics to fudge their statements.

There ought to be a law making it illegal for words to change their meanings.

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#53775

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2013-12-24 13:14 -0500
Message-ID<241220131314566404%star@sky.net>
In reply to#53757
J Burns:
> If you want to hear it spoken correctly, go to India.

What nonsense that is. You can also hear English spoken correctly in
rural Mississippi, downtown Boston, the Australian Outback, and
Tuguegarao, among other places--because there is no one correct way to
speak English, just a few general rules that all English speakers use.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#53779

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2013-12-24 20:01 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlbjq0j.2n7e.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#53775
In message <241220131314566404%star@sky.net> 
  Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
> J Burns:
>> If you want to hear it spoken correctly, go to India.

> What nonsense that is. You can also hear English spoken correctly in
> rural Mississippi, downtown Boston, the Australian Outback, and
> Tuguegarao, among other places--because there is no one correct way to
> speak English, just a few general rules that all English speakers use.

Well, 'rules' may be putting it a bit too strong. Generally acceptable
guidelines to which there are innumerable exceptions would, perhaps, be
more accurate.

-- 
'The gods,' he said. 'Imprisoned in a thought. And perhaps they were
never more than a dream.' --Sourcery

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#53792

FromJ Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
Date2013-12-24 15:19 -0500
Message-ID<l9cq94$l65$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#53775
On 12/24/13, 1:14 PM, Davoud wrote:
> J Burns:
>> If you want to hear it spoken correctly, go to India.
>
> What nonsense that is. You can also hear English spoken correctly in
> rural Mississippi, downtown Boston, the Australian Outback, and
> Tuguegarao, among other places--because there is no one correct way to
> speak English, just a few general rules that all English speakers use.
>
You got me there.  Since the Exodus of 1947, Anglo-Indians have been 
found all over the globe.

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#53788

FromJohn McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net>
Date2013-12-24 12:14 -0800
Message-ID<l9cpu8$ghc$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#53757
On 12/24/13   PDT, 7:17 AM, J Burns wrote:
> On 12/24/13, 9:19 AM, Király wrote:
>> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>> Not realizing that much of natural language is metaphorical is a reason
>>> for many of these peeves. The people who think that "decimate" can only
>>> refer to killing 90% of the population don't understand that it long ago
>>> lost its original Latin meaning, and just adopted the metaphorical
>>> meaning of killing large numbers.
>>
>> The odd thing about English is that it's the only major language without
>> an official regulator. No dictionary, style guide, thesaurus, or grammar
>> textbook is official or authoritative. It's just an opinion. No body has
>> the authority to decide for the rest of us what is and isn't correct
>> meaning and usage. We all make those decisions together and they change
>> over time.
>>
> English is not the official language of the UK, the US, or Australia. If
> you want to hear it spoken correctly, go to India.
>
> The one that bugs me is "by and large," an order given to a helmsman to
> steer with the wind behind him but not directly behind him (lest the
> mainsail empty other sails).  When I was a teen, it became a popular way
> for academics to fudge their statements.

An unexpected jibe (or gybe) was what was to be avoided by sailing a bit 
off wind.

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#53799

FromJ Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
Date2013-12-24 16:05 -0500
Message-ID<l9csv2$40q$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#53788
On 12/24/13, 3:14 PM, John McWilliams wrote:
> On 12/24/13   PDT, 7:17 AM, J Burns wrote:
>> On 12/24/13, 9:19 AM, Király wrote:
>>> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>>> Not realizing that much of natural language is metaphorical is a reason
>>>> for many of these peeves. The people who think that "decimate" can only
>>>> refer to killing 90% of the population don't understand that it long
>>>> ago
>>>> lost its original Latin meaning, and just adopted the metaphorical
>>>> meaning of killing large numbers.
>>>
>>> The odd thing about English is that it's the only major language without
>>> an official regulator. No dictionary, style guide, thesaurus, or grammar
>>> textbook is official or authoritative. It's just an opinion. No body has
>>> the authority to decide for the rest of us what is and isn't correct
>>> meaning and usage. We all make those decisions together and they change
>>> over time.
>>>
>> English is not the official language of the UK, the US, or Australia. If
>> you want to hear it spoken correctly, go to India.
>>
>> The one that bugs me is "by and large," an order given to a helmsman to
>> steer with the wind behind him but not directly behind him (lest the
>> mainsail empty other sails).  When I was a teen, it became a popular way
>> for academics to fudge their statements.
>
> An unexpected jibe (or gybe) was what was to be avoided by sailing a bit
> off wind.
>
...not on a square-rigged ship.

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#53819

FromJohn McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net>
Date2013-12-24 15:55 -0800
Message-ID<l9d6t1$rdi$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#53799
On 12/24/13   PDT, 1:05 PM, J Burns wrote:
> On 12/24/13, 3:14 PM, John McWilliams wrote:
>> On 12/24/13   PDT, 7:17 AM, J Burns wrote:
>>> On 12/24/13, 9:19 AM, Király wrote:
>>>> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>>>> Not realizing that much of natural language is metaphorical is a
>>>>> reason
>>>>> for many of these peeves. The people who think that "decimate" can
>>>>> only
>>>>> refer to killing 90% of the population don't understand that it long
>>>>> ago
>>>>> lost its original Latin meaning, and just adopted the metaphorical
>>>>> meaning of killing large numbers.
>>>>
>>>> The odd thing about English is that it's the only major language
>>>> without
>>>> an official regulator. No dictionary, style guide, thesaurus, or
>>>> grammar
>>>> textbook is official or authoritative. It's just an opinion. No body
>>>> has
>>>> the authority to decide for the rest of us what is and isn't correct
>>>> meaning and usage. We all make those decisions together and they change
>>>> over time.
>>>>
>>> English is not the official language of the UK, the US, or Australia. If
>>> you want to hear it spoken correctly, go to India.
>>>
>>> The one that bugs me is "by and large," an order given to a helmsman to
>>> steer with the wind behind him but not directly behind him (lest the
>>> mainsail empty other sails).  When I was a teen, it became a popular way
>>> for academics to fudge their statements.
>>
>> An unexpected jibe (or gybe) was what was to be avoided by sailing a bit
>> off wind.
>>
> ...not on a square-rigged ship.

You are quite right. Caught up in Marconi rigging, was I.

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#53822

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2013-12-25 13:07 +1300
Message-ID<251220131307040414%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#53799
In article <l9csv2$40q$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
wrote:

> On 12/24/13, 3:14 PM, John McWilliams wrote:
> > On 12/24/13   PDT, 7:17 AM, J Burns wrote:
> >> On 12/24/13, 9:19 AM, Király wrote:
> >>> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> >>>> Not realizing that much of natural language is metaphorical is a reason
> >>>> for many of these peeves. The people who think that "decimate" can only
> >>>> refer to killing 90% of the population don't understand that it long
> >>>> ago
> >>>> lost its original Latin meaning, and just adopted the metaphorical
> >>>> meaning of killing large numbers.
> >>>
> >>> The odd thing about English is that it's the only major language without
> >>> an official regulator. No dictionary, style guide, thesaurus, or grammar
> >>> textbook is official or authoritative. It's just an opinion. No body has
> >>> the authority to decide for the rest of us what is and isn't correct
> >>> meaning and usage. We all make those decisions together and they change
> >>> over time.
> >>>
> >> English is not the official language of the UK, the US, or Australia. If
> >> you want to hear it spoken correctly, go to India.
> >>
> >> The one that bugs me is "by and large," an order given to a helmsman to
> >> steer with the wind behind him but not directly behind him (lest the
> >> mainsail empty other sails).  When I was a teen, it became a popular way
> >> for academics to fudge their statements.
> >
> > An unexpected jibe (or gybe) was what was to be avoided by sailing a bit
> > off wind.
> >
> ...not on a square-rigged ship.

Nor one with an engine.  ;-)

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#53830

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2013-12-24 17:08 -0800
Message-ID<2013122417082597036-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
In reply to#53788
On 2013-12-24 20:14:00 +0000, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> said:

> On 12/24/13   PDT, 7:17 AM, J Burns wrote:
>> On 12/24/13, 9:19 AM, Király wrote:
>>> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>>> Not realizing that much of natural language is metaphorical is a reas
> on
>>>> for many of these peeves. The people who think that "decimate" can on
> ly
>>>> refer to killing 90% of the population don't understand that it long
> ago
>>>> lost its original Latin meaning, and just adopted the metaphorical
>>>> meaning of killing large numbers.
>>> 
>>> The odd thing about English is that it's the only major language witho
> ut
>>> an official regulator. No dictionary, style guide, thesaurus, or gramm
> ar
>>> textbook is official or authoritative. It's just an opinion. No body h
> as
>>> the authority to decide for the rest of us what is and isn't correct
>>> meaning and usage. We all make those decisions together and they chang
> e
>>> over time.
>>> 
>> English is not the official language of the UK, the US, or Australia. I
> f
>> you want to hear it spoken correctly, go to India.
>> 
>> The one that bugs me is "by and large," an order given to a helmsman to
> 
>> steer with the wind behind him but not directly behind him (lest the
>> mainsail empty other sails).  When I was a teen, it became a popular wa
> y
>> for academics to fudge their statements.
> 
> An unexpected jibe (or gybe) was what was to be avoided by sailing a bit
> off wind.

Then you might have missed how these guys go about that maneuver.
< http://www.youtube.com/user/AmericasCup >

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#53841

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2013-12-25 17:25 +1300
Message-ID<251220131725519711%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#53830
In article <2013122417082597036-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2013-12-24 20:14:00 +0000, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> said:
> > 
> > An unexpected jibe (or gybe) was what was to be avoided by sailing a bit
> > off wind.
> 
> Then you might have missed how these guys go about that maneuver.
> < http://www.youtube.com/user/AmericasCup >

Most of their jibes are during the after-race press conference.  ;-)

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#53976

FromJohn McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net>
Date2013-12-28 14:46 -0800
Message-ID<l9nkck$omr$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#53830
On 12/24/13   PDT, 5:08 PM, Savageduck wrote:
> On 2013-12-24 20:14:00 +0000, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> said:
>>
>> An unexpected jibe (or gybe) was what was to be avoided by sailing a bit
>> off wind.
>
> Then you might have missed how these guys go about that maneuver.
> < http://www.youtube.com/user/AmericasCup >

I saw 4 or 5 races on the water, and every single one on DVR, so, no I 
didn't miss their jibing at all. They don't sail dead down wind only 
because it's slower than tacking downwind.

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