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Security paranoia

Started byWes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org>
First post2013-11-24 22:21 -0500
Last post2013-11-25 21:15 -0500
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  Security paranoia Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-24 22:21 -0500
    Re: Security paranoia jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-25 19:10 +1300
    Re: Security paranoia Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2013-11-25 00:29 -0800
    Re: Security paranoia Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-25 21:15 -0500

#52626 — Security paranoia

FromWes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org>
Date2013-11-24 22:21 -0500
SubjectSecurity paranoia
Message-ID<l6ufni$8ns$1@dont-email.me>
This must be the most paranoid operation I have ever heard of:

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/11/badbios.html#c2171622

-- 
Wes Groleau

   Is it an on-line compliment to call someone a Net Wit ?

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#52630

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2013-11-25 19:10 +1300
Message-ID<1lcwnw5.1on6exgvvnkyvN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#52626
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:

> This must be the most paranoid operation I have ever heard of:
> 
> https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/11/badbios.html#c2171622

Either a mental breakdown or an extreme example of confirmation bias, if
you ask me.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#52638

FromKevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us>
Date2013-11-25 00:29 -0800
Message-ID<mcmurtrie-D48DFA.00292425112013@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>
In reply to#52626
In article <l6ufni$8ns$1@dont-email.me>,
 Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:

> This must be the most paranoid operation I have ever heard of:
> 
> https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/11/badbios.html#c2171622

This hoax has been going around for a while.

A lot of high-tech spying is done by correlating leaked signals to 
actions.  The simplest demo is remotely picking up the enormous amounts 
of RF energy leaked by high resolution CRT monitors.  Luckily, nobody 
uses CRTs any more.  The same trick was used to steal encryption keys 
from older hardware security chips by placing a probe on their power 
lead.

The covert ultrasonic transmission can't happen without physically 
placing more hardware nearby.  The speakers and microphones built into 
computers won't do it.  The only way you could leak ultrasonic signals 
would be by putting the CPU in and out of sleep modes to represent data 
patterns.  That would modulate the rather loud ultrasonic noise coming 
from the computer's switching power supplies, giving you maybe 100 bits 
per second.  You'd still be lacking an ultrasonic microphone.  If you're 
going to be on-site, there would be better means to steal data.

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#52672

FromWes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org>
Date2013-11-25 21:15 -0500
Message-ID<l7108c$1js$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#52626
On 11-24-2013, 22:21, Wes Groleau wrote:
> This must be the most paranoid operation I have ever heard of:
> https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/11/badbios.html#c2171622
Jamie & Kevin, I think you missed something.  The above is not about 
"badbios" but is someone's thread drift within the comments.

"patricia" is explaining a protection scheme that could only be 
accomplished by someone with lots of money and no outside life that 
needs protecting.

:-)

-- 
Wes Groleau

    Don't get even — get odd!

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