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  Mail App oddity gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-20 11:04 -0800
    Re: Mail App oddity billy@MIX.COM - 2013-11-20 23:43 +0000
      Re: Mail App oddity gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-20 16:04 -0800
        Re: Mail App oddity "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-11-21 20:42 +0000
          Re: Mail App oddity gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-21 13:58 -0800
          Re: Mail App oddity Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-21 20:18 -0500
            Re: Mail App oddity gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-21 23:09 -0800
              Re: Mail App oddity Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-23 01:00 -0500
                Re: Mail App oddity Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-23 08:25 -0700
                  Re: Mail App oddity Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-23 13:22 -0500
                    Re: Mail App oddity gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-23 11:47 -0800
                    Re: Mail App oddity Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-23 17:51 -0700
                  Re: Mail App oddity Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-24 09:02 +0100
                    Re: Mail App oddity Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-24 07:25 -0700
        Re: Mail App oddity billy@MIX.COM - 2013-11-21 21:03 +0000
          Re: Mail App oddity gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-21 14:00 -0800

#52451 — Mail App oddity

When I send an email the little "activity" box in the bottom right 
respons by saying something like "sending 23 of 23".  Similarly when I 
check for new mail it says "fetching 12 of 12" and gets me two emails.  
Something like that.

The count, either incoming or outgoing, is extravagantly different from 
the intended and supposed activity.

Any ideas?

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#52462

gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> writes:

> When I send an email the little "activity" box in the bottom right 
> respons by saying something like "sending 23 of 23".  Similarly when I 
> check for new mail it says "fetching 12 of 12" and gets me two emails.  
> Something like that.
> 
> The count, either incoming or outgoing, is extravagantly different from 
> the intended and supposed activity.
> 
> Any ideas?

In my case when fetching it's mail going into other folders.
Don't know what's up with sending, though.

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#52463

On 2013-11-20 23:43:29 +0000, billy@MIX.COM said:

> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> writes:
> 
>> When I send an email the little "activity" box in the bottom right
>> respons by saying something like "sending 23 of 23".  Similarly when I
>> check for new mail it says "fetching 12 of 12" and gets me two emails.
>> Something like that.
>> 
>> The count, either incoming or outgoing, is extravagantly different from
>> the intended and supposed activity.
>> 
>> Any ideas?
> 
> In my case when fetching it's mail going into other folders.
> Don't know what's up with sending, though.

No, I'm really not sending or receiving any such mail-count, secondary 
folders included.

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#52494

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 00:04:42 UTC, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2013-11-20 23:43:29 +0000, billy@MIX.COM said:
> 
> > gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> writes:
> > 
> >> When I send an email the little "activity" box in the bottom right
> >> respons by saying something like "sending 23 of 23".  Similarly when I
> >> check for new mail it says "fetching 12 of 12" and gets me two emails.
> >> Something like that.
> >> 
> >> The count, either incoming or outgoing, is extravagantly different from
> >> the intended and supposed activity.
> >> 
> >> Any ideas?
> > 
> > In my case when fetching it's mail going into other folders.
> > Don't know what's up with sending, though.
> 
> No, I'm really not sending or receiving any such mail-count, secondary 
> folders included.
 
Do you have spam filters set up? If so, then you may actually be 
receiving the higher number of emails. If your spam filter is 
sending some of the emails directly to Trash you'll never see them 
in the inbox.

-- 
John Varela

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#52497

On 2013-11-21 20:42:03 +0000, John Varela said:

>> No, I'm really not sending or receiving any such mail-count, secondary
>> folders included.
> 
> Do you have spam filters set up? If so, then you may actually be
> receiving the higher number of emails. If your spam filter is
> sending some of the emails directly to Trash you'll never see them
> in the inbox.

I have SpamSieve installed, but have no spam filters operable via the 
Mail app proper. Still, that doesn't account for the unusual outgoing 
numbers. I assumed that find out what was going on with one would 
answer the other.

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#52500

On 11-21-2013, 15:42, John Varela wrote:
> Do you have spam filters set up? If so, then you may actually be
> receiving the higher number of emails. If your spam filter is
> sending some of the emails directly to Trash you'll never see them
> in the inbox.

I don't believe e-mails in the trash or junk folders get counted.

-- 
Wes Groleau

  Guidelines for judging others:
  1. Don't attribute to malice that which
     can be adequately explained by stupidity.
  2. Don't attribute to stupidity that which
     can be adequately explained by ignorance.
  3. Don't attribute to ignorance that which
     can be adequately explained by misunderstanding.
  4. Don't attribute to misunderstanding that which
     can be adequately explained by alcohol.

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#52511

On 2013-11-22 01:18:58 +0000, Wes Groleau said:

> On 11-21-2013, 15:42, John Varela wrote:
>> Do you have spam filters set up? If so, then you may actually be
>> receiving the higher number of emails. If your spam filter is
>> sending some of the emails directly to Trash you'll never see them
>> in the inbox.
> 
> I don't believe e-mails in the trash or junk folders get counted.

THE ANSWER:

The number of received emails and outgoing emails increments in that 
report for every income/outgo loop you go through while the program is 
running.  Quit the program and the next incoming will be 1 of 1 and the 
next outgoint will be 1 of 1.  And then it starts upping the count 
until the next time you quit.

What purpose this method serves, i can't say.

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#52528

On 11-22-2013, 02:09, gtr wrote:
> On 2013-11-22 01:18:58 +0000, Wes Groleau said:
>> On 11-21-2013, 15:42, John Varela wrote:
>>> Do you have spam filters set up? If so, then you may actually be
>>> receiving the higher number of emails. If your spam filter is
>>> sending some of the emails directly to Trash you'll never see them
>>> in the inbox.
>>
>> I don't believe e-mails in the trash or junk folders get counted.
>
> THE ANSWER:
>
> The number of received emails and outgoing emails increments in that
> report for every income/outgo loop you go through while the program is
> running.  Quit the program and the next incoming will be 1 of 1 and the
> next outgoint will be 1 of 1.  And then it starts upping the count until
> the next time you quit.
>
> What purpose this method serves, i can't say.

Sorry, I thought you were talking about the 'new' badge.

Sounds like you are talking about some "report" I never knew of that was 
intended to show you what you have done this session.


-- 
Wes Groleau

You always have time for what you do first.

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#52540

In article <l6pgao$v9n$4@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau
<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:

> Sounds like you are talking about some "report" I never knew of that was 
> intended to show you what you have done this session.

The pane, named "Mail activity", located below the folders list shows
this information dynamically.

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#52550

On 11-23-2013, 10:25, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <l6pgao$v9n$4@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau
> <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like you are talking about some "report" I never knew of that was
>> intended to show you what you have done this session.
>
> The pane, named "Mail activity", located below the folders list shows
> this information dynamically.

Ah.  Well, obviously it is intended to monitor one session.

Well, at least that is what it is obviously doing.


-- 
Wes Groleau

    If you put garbage in a computer nothing comes out but garbage.
    But this garbage, having passed through a very expensive machine,
    is somehow ennobled and none dare criticize it.

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#52554

On 2013-11-23 18:22:43 +0000, Wes Groleau said:

> On 11-23-2013, 10:25, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>> In article <l6pgao$v9n$4@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau
>> <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sounds like you are talking about some "report" I never knew of that was
>>> intended to show you what you have done this session.
>> 
>> The pane, named "Mail activity", located below the folders list shows
>> this information dynamically.
> 
> Ah.  Well, obviously it is intended to monitor one session.
> 
> Well, at least that is what it is obviously doing.

It's nice to a complete and satisfying answer to a nebulous curiousity. 
And novel as well.

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#52569

In article <l6qrpj$glm$4@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau
<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:

> >> Sounds like you are talking about some "report" I never knew of that was
> >> intended to show you what you have done this session.
> >
> > The pane, named "Mail activity", located below the folders list shows
> > this information dynamically.
> 
> Ah.  Well, obviously it is intended to monitor one session.
> 
> Well, at least that is what it is obviously doing.

On my system, each download starts with "1 of <n>"

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#52585

Michelle Steiner wrote:

> In article <l6pgao$v9n$4@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau
> <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like you are talking about some "report" I never knew of that was 
>> intended to show you what you have done this session.
>
> The pane, named "Mail activity", located below the folders list shows
> this information dynamically.

There's also a separate Activity window available from the Window menu.

The shortcut for that is shown as alt-cmd-O (I think that's the letter
O  - alt-cmd-zero magnifies the screen here) but it does nothing here.

-- 
Paul Sture

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#52588

In article <ado8ma-7m1.ln1@news.chingola.ch>, Paul Sture
<nospam@sture.ch> wrote:

> There's also a separate Activity window available from the Window menu.
> 
> The shortcut for that is shown as alt-cmd-O (I think that's the letter
> O  - alt-cmd-zero magnifies the screen here) but it does nothing here.

It's the number zero; you must have reassigned it somehow.

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#52496

gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> writes, quoting me:

> >> The count, either incoming or outgoing, is extravagantly different from
> >> the intended and supposed activity.
> >> 
> >> Any ideas?
> > 
> > In my case when fetching it's mail going into other folders.
> > Don't know what's up with sending, though.
> 
> No, I'm really not sending or receiving any such mail-count, secondary 
> folders included.

I've been watching it more closely today.  If I received 39 messages
when first starting the program, then when one more arrives later, it
then says receiving number 40.  Maybe this is it...?

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#52498

On 2013-11-21 21:03:39 +0000, billy@MIX.COM said:

> I've been watching it more closely today.  If I received 39 messages
> when first starting the program, then when one more arrives later, it
> then says receiving number 40.  Maybe this is it...?

Interestings. Perhaps it's providing a total count during the session. 
Now that I've *finally* gotten out of the habit of endlessly running 
and quitting programs on the computer, and am instead leaving 
everything I generally use operative, that might make sense.  The 
numbers could get very large between the ever-more-rare reboot.

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