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| Started by | Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> |
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| First post | 2013-10-29 14:07 -0500 |
| Last post | 2013-10-30 05:45 -0700 |
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Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-29 14:07 -0500
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 15:13 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-29 15:06 -0500
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 16:22 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-29 16:35 -0500
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 18:11 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-29 17:35 -0500
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-10-30 17:00 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-30 17:09 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-10-30 17:29 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-30 17:36 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-10-30 19:54 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-30 20:04 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-10-30 20:10 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-30 19:05 -0500
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-10-30 20:12 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-30 22:05 -0500
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-30 19:58 -0700
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-30 22:18 -0500
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-30 19:56 -0700
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 13:11 +1300
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-31 00:02 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 18:26 +1300
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-29 19:10 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 19:27 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-10-29 17:48 -0700
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-29 19:32 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-29 18:59 -0500
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-29 20:23 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-29 20:30 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-29 19:38 -0500
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 21:03 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 19:31 +1300
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-30 09:09 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 09:21 +1300
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-30 17:12 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 13:03 +1300
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-31 00:05 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-30 14:32 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-10-30 12:11 +1300
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-29 18:57 -0500
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 19:11 +1300
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? "Ted L." <tedl719@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-30 07:54 -0500
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 09:15 +1300
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-31 00:31 +0000
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 15:19 +1300
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-30 19:50 -0700
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-30 22:14 -0500
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-31 01:04 -0700
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-10-31 21:54 +1300
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-31 05:23 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-11-01 00:30 -0700
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-01 07:03 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-11-02 10:29 +1300
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-01 23:33 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-31 05:24 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-31 09:25 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-31 12:29 +0000
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2013-10-31 09:14 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-31 09:26 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-31 14:23 +0000
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2013-10-31 09:11 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-10-30 22:21 +1300
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? RRansil <ransil@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-29 19:40 -0700
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 22:45 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-30 04:25 +0000
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-30 00:48 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-30 12:54 +0000
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-30 13:33 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? ggrandish@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 10:49 -0700
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-30 14:57 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-31 00:23 +0000
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-31 02:57 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-31 14:31 +0000
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-31 13:43 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? ggrandish@gmail.com - 2013-10-31 12:57 -0700
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-31 18:20 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-31 21:08 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-31 18:20 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-11-01 13:47 +0000
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-30 09:16 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 10:21 -0700
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-10-30 15:54 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 13:02 -0700
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-10-31 09:58 +1300
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-30 17:33 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-30 04:27 +0000
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-30 09:15 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2013-10-30 09:52 -0700
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-31 08:16 +0000
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-01 09:30 +1300
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-29 22:29 +0000
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? ggrandish@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 15:19 -0700
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-31 18:46 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-11-01 12:55 +0000
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-31 21:11 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-01 14:30 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-01 17:05 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-01 23:34 -0400
Re: Any Rosetta rumors? "Mr. Strat" <mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 05:45 -0700
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| From | Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-29 14:07 -0500 |
| Subject | Any Rosetta rumors? |
| Message-ID | <l4p122$o6d$1@dont-email.me> |
As I mentioned a few days ago, it's been awhile since I've been on this newsgroup. The chatter about Mavericks prompts me to ask a question that I imagine has come up now and again -- has there been any serious discussion of someone coming up with a 3rd-party equivalent of Rosetta so irreplaceable OS X PPC apps can still be run? SheepShaver works great for PPC stuff that will run on OS 9.0.4., but that's it. Ted Lee Minnetonka, MN
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-10-29 15:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <291020131513157934%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #51224 |
In article <l4p122$o6d$1@dont-email.me>, Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> wrote: > As I mentioned a few days ago, it's been awhile since I've been on this > newsgroup. The chatter about Mavericks prompts me to ask a question > that I imagine has come up now and again -- has there been any serious > discussion of someone coming up with a 3rd-party equivalent of Rosetta > so irreplaceable OS X PPC apps can still be run? SheepShaver works > great for PPC stuff that will run on OS 9.0.4., but that's it. not likely to happen. not enough potential customers to bother (and shrinking), even if it was technically realistic.
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| From | Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-29 15:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <l4p4g1$l4m$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #51225 |
On 10/29/13, 2:13 PM, nospam wrote: > In article <l4p122$o6d$1@dont-email.me>, Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> wrote: > >> As I mentioned a few days ago, it's been awhile since I've been on this >> newsgroup. The chatter about Mavericks prompts me to ask a question >> that I imagine has come up now and again -- has there been any serious >> discussion of someone coming up with a 3rd-party equivalent of Rosetta >> so irreplaceable OS X PPC apps can still be run? SheepShaver works >> great for PPC stuff that will run on OS 9.0.4., but that's it. > > not likely to happen. not enough potential customers to bother (and > shrinking), even if it was technically realistic. > You'd think the customer base for that would be much, much larger than the base for SheepShaver, and yet the latter continues to be well-maintained by volunteers. Ted
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-10-29 16:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <291020131622357499%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #51229 |
In article <l4p4g1$l4m$1@dont-email.me>, Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> wrote: > On 10/29/13, 2:13 PM, nospam wrote: > > In article <l4p122$o6d$1@dont-email.me>, Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> wrote: > > > >> As I mentioned a few days ago, it's been awhile since I've been on this > >> newsgroup. The chatter about Mavericks prompts me to ask a question > >> that I imagine has come up now and again -- has there been any serious > >> discussion of someone coming up with a 3rd-party equivalent of Rosetta > >> so irreplaceable OS X PPC apps can still be run? SheepShaver works > >> great for PPC stuff that will run on OS 9.0.4., but that's it. > > > > not likely to happen. not enough potential customers to bother (and > > shrinking), even if it was technically realistic. > > > > You'd think the customer base for that would be much, much larger than > the base for SheepShaver, and yet the latter continues to be > well-maintained by volunteers. why? intel macs have been around for 7 years. software that is still powerpc has not been updated in at least that long. if whatever the software did was needed by many people, it would have been updated or a competitor would have made their own version. or, there's a windows equivalent, which can be run in vmware or parallels. there's no money in making a powerpc emulator and it's not at all simple anyway. what are these irreplaceable apps? there's probably a replacement.
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| From | Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-29 16:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <l4p9m3$ld8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #51233 |
On 10/29/13, 3:22 PM, nospam wrote: > if whatever the software did was needed by many people, it would have > been updated or a competitor would have made their own version. Um, my point was that SheepShaver emulates an even older PPC than a Rosetta replacement would, and yet there is enough of a "customer" base for that that it continues to be well supported. As to that "old" software -- there are pieces of software which have no Intel equivalent or which would be very difficult to migrate to the closest equivalent. At least the ones I care about run under SheepShaver, so the problem is "solved" with them. Ted
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-10-29 18:11 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <291020131811591330%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #51247 |
In article <l4p9m3$ld8$1@dont-email.me>, Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> wrote: > > if whatever the software did was needed by many people, it would have > > been updated or a competitor would have made their own version. > > Um, my point was that SheepShaver emulates an even older PPC than a > Rosetta replacement would, and yet there is enough of a "customer" base > for that that it continues to be well supported. sheep shaver began life long ago. > As to that "old" software -- there are pieces of software which have no > Intel equivalent or which would be very difficult to migrate to the > closest equivalent. At least the ones I care about run under > SheepShaver, so the problem is "solved" with them. such as? what are these nameless apps?
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| From | Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-29 17:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <l4pd80$js1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #51254 |
On 10/29/13, 5:11 PM, nospam wrote: > such as? > > what are these nameless apps? Somehow I think it's ironic that a person who posts anonymously asks about nameless apps, as if I'd committed some kind of a faux pas by not naming them. Mangia, WealthBuilder, and Appleworks, at least. I forget the history of Clarisworks/Appleworks, but some versions of them will run under SheepShaver (OS 9.0.4) and some won't. I use them rarely enough I don't remember for sure which the last version is. But I have a few files that would be a real pain to convert to something else, especially since I don't use them often, but at least for most I know it's possible. Ted
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| From | Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 17:00 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <barmar-A34034.17004530102013@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #51254 |
In article <291020131811591330%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <l4p9m3$ld8$1@dont-email.me>, Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> wrote: > > > > if whatever the software did was needed by many people, it would have > > > been updated or a competitor would have made their own version. > > > > Um, my point was that SheepShaver emulates an even older PPC than a > > Rosetta replacement would, and yet there is enough of a "customer" base > > for that that it continues to be well supported. > > sheep shaver began life long ago. > > > As to that "old" software -- there are pieces of software which have no > > Intel equivalent or which would be very difficult to migrate to the > > closest equivalent. At least the ones I care about run under > > SheepShaver, so the problem is "solved" with them. > > such as? > > what are these nameless apps? In my case, Managing Your Money. I would convert to Quicken, except I've never been able to find a way to convert the data. Re-entering all my portfolio data by hand would be impractical -- because of reinvested dividends, I have hundreds of mutual fund purchases. -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 17:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <301020131709099085%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #51393 |
In article <barmar-A34034.17004530102013@news.eternal-september.org>, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > In my case, Managing Your Money. I would convert to Quicken, except I've > never been able to find a way to convert the data. don't bother with quicken. they've shown themselves to be incompetent. > Re-entering all my > portfolio data by hand would be impractical -- because of reinvested > dividends, I have hundreds of mutual fund purchases. i know someone in a similar situation, who has their data in quicken and wants to find something else because it's buggy. unfortunately, everything else sucks more. one product (don't remember which) claims to import quicken but he gets different values each time he imports. that's *not* good.
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| From | Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 17:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <barmar-15A8D5.17290730102013@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #51396 |
In article <301020131709099085%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <barmar-A34034.17004530102013@news.eternal-september.org>, > Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > > > In my case, Managing Your Money. I would convert to Quicken, except I've > > never been able to find a way to convert the data. > > don't bother with quicken. they've shown themselves to be incompetent. I only mentioned quicken because it's the obvious contender. I'd probably use just about any modern money management application if it could import the MYM data. -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
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| From | Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 17:36 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <l4ru4e$3pv$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #51400 |
On 10-30-2013, 17:29, Barry Margolin wrote:
> I only mentioned quicken because it's the obvious contender. I'd
> probably use just about any modern money management application if it
> could import the MYM data.
Every one I've ever tried--including Quicken 2003--was MORE work and
slower than pencil and paper.
--
Wes Groleau
“Beware the barrenness of a busy life.”
— Socrates
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| From | Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 19:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <barmar-74289B.19542030102013@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #51403 |
In article <l4ru4e$3pv$2@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote: > On 10-30-2013, 17:29, Barry Margolin wrote: > > I only mentioned quicken because it's the obvious contender. I'd > > probably use just about any modern money management application if it > > could import the MYM data. > > Every one I've ever tried--including Quicken 2003--was MORE work and > slower than pencil and paper. How many securities do you have in your portfolio, and how many purchase lots? I have about 350 positions spread across 36 securities (mostly mutual funds, many of which have dividend reinvestment). The application is a godsend when I need to see where my unrealized gains and losses are distributed so I can decide which positions to sell, and when filling in Schedule D. I'd hate to try to do this by hand. I've been using this application for over 20 years, I think. -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
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| From | Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 20:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <l4s6q8$quk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #51411 |
On 10-30-2013, 19:54, Barry Margolin wrote:
> In article <l4ru4e$3pv$2@dont-email.me>,
>> Every one I've ever tried--including Quicken 2003--was MORE work and
>> slower than pencil and paper.
>
> How many securities do you have in your portfolio, and how many purchase
NONE. As I was sending, I though 'I should have added that my business
is quite simple.'
Launching one of these programs, entering a few checks, and shutting it
down takes as long as balancing the checkbook the old fashioned way.
--
Wes Groleau
People would have more leisure time if it weren't
for all the leisure-time activities that use it up.
— Peg Bracken
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| From | Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 20:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <barmar-082967.20104230102013@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #51414 |
In article <l4s6q8$quk$1@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote: > On 10-30-2013, 19:54, Barry Margolin wrote: > > In article <l4ru4e$3pv$2@dont-email.me>, > >> Every one I've ever tried--including Quicken 2003--was MORE work and > >> slower than pencil and paper. > > > > How many securities do you have in your portfolio, and how many purchase > > NONE. As I was sending, I though 'I should have added that my business > is quite simple.' > > Launching one of these programs, entering a few checks, and shutting it > down takes as long as balancing the checkbook the old fashioned way. If all I were doing was balancing my checkbook, it wouldn't be an issue. I'm keeping track of a $2M portfolio. I suppose I can afford to pay someone to transcribe it for me into a spreadsheet. But as long MYM still runs under Sheepshaver, I don't need to. -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
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| From | Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 19:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <l4s6t5$o7e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #51411 |
On 10/30/13, 6:54 PM, Barry Margolin wrote: > How many securities do you have in your portfolio, and how many purchase > lots? I have about 350 positions spread across 36 securities (mostly > mutual funds, many of which have dividend reinvestment). The > application is a godsend when I need to see where my unrealized gains > and losses are distributed so I can decide which positions to sell, and > when filling in Schedule D. I'd hate to try to do this by hand. > > I've been using this application for over 20 years, I think. I'm with you Barry. We've been using it for 20 years too. I almost panicked when it looked like they wouldn't come out with an Intel version, but they did! Our accountant doesn't have good things to say about Quicken, but then he hasn't been using it for 20 years. Ted
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| From | Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 20:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <barmar-6AC87F.20121330102013@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #51415 |
In article <l4s6t5$o7e$1@dont-email.me>, Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> wrote: > On 10/30/13, 6:54 PM, Barry Margolin wrote: > > How many securities do you have in your portfolio, and how many purchase > > lots? I have about 350 positions spread across 36 securities (mostly > > mutual funds, many of which have dividend reinvestment). The > > application is a godsend when I need to see where my unrealized gains > > and losses are distributed so I can decide which positions to sell, and > > when filling in Schedule D. I'd hate to try to do this by hand. > > > > I've been using this application for over 20 years, I think. > > I'm with you Barry. We've been using it for 20 years too. I almost > panicked when it looked like they wouldn't come out with an Intel > version, but they did! Our accountant doesn't have good things to say > about Quicken, but then he hasn't been using it for 20 years. I'm not using Quicken, I'm using Managing Your Money. They stopped developing it long before OS X. -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
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| From | Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 22:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <l4sheg$9cn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #51418 |
On 10/30/13, 7:12 PM, Barry Margolin wrote: > I'm not using Quicken, I'm using Managing Your Money. They stopped > developing it long before OS X. > > -- Gotcha -- didn't read closely. You understand well those of us who really appreciate the ability to keep old software running. Ted
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| From | Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 19:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vilain-DEA1EE.19583630102013@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #51415 |
In article <l4s6t5$o7e$1@dont-email.me>, Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> wrote: > On 10/30/13, 6:54 PM, Barry Margolin wrote: > > How many securities do you have in your portfolio, and how many purchase > > lots? I have about 350 positions spread across 36 securities (mostly > > mutual funds, many of which have dividend reinvestment). The > > application is a godsend when I need to see where my unrealized gains > > and losses are distributed so I can decide which positions to sell, and > > when filling in Schedule D. I'd hate to try to do this by hand. > > > > I've been using this application for over 20 years, I think. > > I'm with you Barry. We've been using it for 20 years too. I almost > panicked when it looked like they wouldn't come out with an Intel > version, but they did! Our accountant doesn't have good things to say > about Quicken, but then he hasn't been using it for 20 years. > > Ted It's weird that your accountant doesn't like Quicken when many can make a tidy sum setting up Quickbooks for businesses. But there's nothing like Quicken for a portfolio unless you go a professional-class app, most likely running on Windows. -- DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... [I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]
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| From | Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 22:18 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <l4si5b$9cn$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #51437 |
On 10/30/13, 9:58 PM, Michael Vilain wrote: > It's weird that your accountant doesn't like Quicken when many can make > a tidy sum setting up Quickbooks for businesses. But there's nothing > like Quicken for a portfolio unless you go a professional-class app, > most likely running on Windows. > He's a very professional tax accountant (both personal and corporate) and, yes, he uses very professional apps on Windows. We've ourselves found some areas where Quicken does have problems and so can understand why he doesn't like it. But this isn't the forum for that. Ted
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| From | Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 19:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vilain-138E74.19564230102013@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #51411 |
In article <barmar-74289B.19542030102013@news.eternal-september.org>, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > In article <l4ru4e$3pv$2@dont-email.me>, > Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote: > > > On 10-30-2013, 17:29, Barry Margolin wrote: > > > I only mentioned quicken because it's the obvious contender. I'd > > > probably use just about any modern money management application if it > > > could import the MYM data. > > > > Every one I've ever tried--including Quicken 2003--was MORE work and > > slower than pencil and paper. > > How many securities do you have in your portfolio, and how many purchase > lots? I have about 350 positions spread across 36 securities (mostly > mutual funds, many of which have dividend reinvestment). The > application is a godsend when I need to see where my unrealized gains > and losses are distributed so I can decide which positions to sell, and > when filling in Schedule D. I'd hate to try to do this by hand. > > I've been using this application for over 20 years, I think. I haven't found anything to come close to Quicken for dealing with a portfolio beyond 100 securities. Some of my mutual funds do quarterly adjustments buying in and out of funds and short of getting something that manages a big portfolio, Quicken is it. -- DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... [I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]
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