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  Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-16 09:18 +1300
    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-15 16:25 -0400
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-16 13:44 +1300
        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-15 21:34 -0400
          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-15 21:43 -0700
            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-16 11:46 +0000
            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-17 00:11 +0000
              Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-16 17:53 -0700
                Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-10-17 13:51 -0400
                  Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-17 12:44 -0700
                    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-17 12:48 -0700
                      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-17 16:03 -0400
                        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-18 09:07 +1300
                    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-17 23:28 +0000
                      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-18 12:44 +1300
                        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-18 00:05 +0000
                          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-17 20:53 -0400
                          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-18 15:42 +1300
                            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-18 20:01 +0000
                          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2013-10-18 01:35 -0700
                            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-18 05:48 -0400
                            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-10-18 11:36 -0400
                              Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-18 08:42 -0700
                            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-18 20:02 +0000
                          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-18 08:41 -0700
                      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-17 20:53 -0400
                Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-19 01:41 +0000
        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-16 17:22 +1300
    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-15 14:28 -0700
    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-15 14:31 -0700
    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-16 05:30 -0700
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-17 18:49 +1300
    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2013-10-16 17:38 +0100
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-16 09:48 -0700
        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-17 13:01 +1300
          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-17 04:17 +0000
            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-18 09:05 +1300
              Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-18 09:33 +1300
                Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2013-10-18 15:07 +0100
                  Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-19 10:10 +1300
          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-17 08:12 -0700
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-17 13:01 +1300
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-17 00:19 +0000
        Mac magazines (was Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac?) Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-10-16 20:26 -0700
          Re: Mac magazines (was Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac?) Skylamar <nothingtoseehere@movealong.net> - 2013-10-16 22:14 -0700
            Re: Mac magazines (was Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac?) Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-10-17 04:55 -0700
          Re: Mac magazines (was Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac?) Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-20 12:42 +0200
            Re: Mac magazines (was Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac?) Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-10-25 12:43 -0700
              Re: Mac magazines jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-26 11:57 +1300
        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-17 17:50 -0400
          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-17 17:52 -0400
            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-17 20:56 -0400

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#50107

In article <1lavyq6.1mba4131wd450yN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <1latijk.akg8ii6aqpggN%dcohenspam@talktalk.net>,
> >  dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) wrote:
> > 
> > > Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > In all the MANY years of using and adminstering Apple computers (since
> > > > before there even was a Mac), I have only ever found ONE virus, and
> > > > that was a Windows virus infecting a Word document on a floppy disk
> > > > from a Windows user way back under Mac OS 8.
> > > 
> > > Ph well, if you're going that far back, I will mention that once I had a
> > > virus on my Mac (around system 6 pr 7), and that came from a cover disk
> > > of a Mac magazine.
> > 
> > I've had several run-ins with classic Mac viruses myself. Those were fun
> > days!  : )
> 
> A mate used to collect them - had a few floppies full. How far we've
> come in wannabe hacker epeen waggling :-D

I still have a collection in my archive!  : )

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#50073

Daniel Cohen <dcohenspam@talktalk.net> wrote:

> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> 
> > In all the MANY years of using and adminstering Apple computers (since
> > before there even was a Mac), I have only ever found ONE virus, and
> > that was a Windows virus infecting a Word document on a floppy disk
> > from a Windows user way back under Mac OS 8.
> 
> Ph well, if you're going that far back, I will mention that once I had a
> virus on my Mac (around system 6 pr 7), and that came from a cover disk
> of a Mac magazine.

Last Mac malware infection I had was off a MacAddict cover CD-ROM back
in 1999. What the hell was it called again? *couple minutes trying to
recall passes, as I read other posts* Oh yeah! The Autostart worm
(infected only PPC systems back in the days of MacOS 8.x IIRC). Harmless
little bugger, and easily removed manually. Not like malware nowadays,
ha!
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#50078

[crossposted to comp.sys.mac.misc. OT for comp.sys.mac.system. 
Follow-ups to csmm.]

On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 16:38:47 UTC, dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel 
Cohen) wrote:

> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> 
> > In all the MANY years of using and adminstering Apple computers (since
> > before there even was a Mac), I have only ever found ONE virus, and
> > that was a Windows virus infecting a Word document on a floppy disk
> > from a Windows user way back under Mac OS 8.
> 
> Ph well, if you're going that far back, I will mention that once I had a
> virus on my Mac (around system 6 pr 7), and that came from a cover disk
> of a Mac magazine.

Speaking of Mac magazines, does anyone else still read MacWorld? 
They ought to rename it IOSWorld. I think I'll let my subscription 
lapse. Can anyone recommend a Mac magazine that's still useful?

-- 
John Varela

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#50082 — Mac magazines (was Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac?)

On 2013-10-17 00:19:49 +0000, John Varela said:
> 
> Speaking of Mac magazines, does anyone else still read MacWorld?
> They ought to rename it IOSWorld. I think I'll let my subscription
> lapse. Can anyone recommend a Mac magazine that's still useful?

Does it have to be paper?

I pull RSS feeds from MacNN, 9to5Mac.com, MacRumors.  Actually, between 
the three, there's a lot of duplication and since 9to5 shows up first 
in my reader, I often read things there and then skip over basically 
the same info elsewhere.

Oh, yeah, MacOSXHints, too.

Add in Ars Technica, MacSparky (just found this one), and maybe Pogue's 
blog at NYT, perhaps also toss in Daring Fireball, too.

I dunno why certain folks think RSS is dead.  No way I'd go to all 
those websites every day to see what was going on.  Given a decent 
reader it's trivial to browse through them and pick out the bits and 
pieces I want to read.

Not that Apple ever made a decent reader.  Having RSS feeds into Safari 
was pitiful.  NetNewsWire and Reeder (waiting for the latter to come 
out with another update, btw) both put Apple to shame, as did 
Reader.Google.com.  A pox on Google for killing that off, too.

Happy to hear other recommendations, btw.

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#50090 — Re: Mac magazines (was Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac?)

On 2013-10-17 03:26:50 +0000, Bread said:

> Happy to hear other recommendations, btw.

I know this thread is mostly about anti-virus software, but Bread asked 
about RSS readers.

I just discovered Feedly:

www.feedly.com

It's web-based, but more flexible than RSS reading applications that 
I've tried. It provides numerous ways to view your feeds and loads them 
fast.

I had been using Netnewswire for years, but I decided to look for other 
options this week after trying their new beta and being underwhelmed by 
it.

In my search for a replacement for Netnewswire, I bought Readkit, which 
costs $6.99, and is only avaiable on the Mac App Store. Readkit can 
sync with Feedly. But after playing around with Readkit, and then 
playing around with Feedly's website, I realized that I prefer using 
Feedly's website over Readkit.

Feedly's basic account is free, and it seems fine to me. Even their 
free accounts are more flexible/powerful than Netnewswire.

I also used Fluid (http://fluidapp.com) to make an "app" of the Feedly 
website. So now I can run Feedly independent of a web browser, just as 
if it were a desktop application.

Sky

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#50102 — Re: Mac magazines (was Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac?)

On 2013-10-17 05:14:02 +0000, Skylamar said:

> On 2013-10-17 03:26:50 +0000, Bread said:
> 
>> Happy to hear other recommendations, btw.
> 
> I know this thread is mostly about anti-virus software, but Bread asked 
> about RSS readers.
> 
> I just discovered Feedly:

I moved to Feedly when Google Reader was shut down.
> 
> In my search for a replacement for Netnewswire, I bought Readkit, which 
> costs $6.99, and is only avaiable on the Mac App Store. Readkit can 
> sync with Feedly. But after playing around with Readkit, and then 
> playing around with Feedly's website, I realized that I prefer using 
> Feedly's website over Readkit.

If he ever gets around to re-releasing it for the desktop, look for 
Reeder.  It uses Feedly's back end (or any of several others -- it was 
the move from Google Reader which killed off Reeder 1 and led to Reeder 
2 which so far is out only on iOS).  Really really slick.

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#50251 — Re: Mac magazines (was Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac?)

In article <l3nldq$kb7$1@reader1.panix.com>,
 Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> wrote:

> On 2013-10-17 00:19:49 +0000, John Varela said:
> > 
> > Speaking of Mac magazines, does anyone else still read MacWorld?
> > They ought to rename it IOSWorld. I think I'll let my subscription
> > lapse. Can anyone recommend a Mac magazine that's still useful?
> 
> Does it have to be paper?
> 
> I pull RSS feeds from MacNN, 9to5Mac.com, MacRumors.  Actually, between 
> the three, there's a lot of duplication and since 9to5 shows up first 
> in my reader, I often read things there and then skip over basically 
> the same info elsewhere.
> 
> Oh, yeah, MacOSXHints, too.
> 
> Add in Ars Technica, MacSparky (just found this one), and maybe Pogue's 
> blog at NYT, perhaps also toss in Daring Fireball, too.
> 
> I dunno why certain folks think RSS is dead.  No way I'd go to all 
> those websites every day to see what was going on.  Given a decent 
> reader it's trivial to browse through them and pick out the bits and 
> pieces I want to read.
> 
> Not that Apple ever made a decent reader.  Having RSS feeds into Safari 
> was pitiful.  NetNewsWire and Reeder (waiting for the latter to come 
> out with another update, btw) both put Apple to shame, as did 
> Reader.Google.com.  A pox on Google for killing that off, too.
> 
> Happy to hear other recommendations, btw.

Have you tried Vienna?

<http://www.vienna-rss.org/>

-- 
Paul Sture

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#50687 — Re: Mac magazines (was Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac?)

On 2013-10-20 10:42:36 +0000, Paul Sture said:

> In article <l3nldq$kb7$1@reader1.panix.com>,
>  Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Not that Apple ever made a decent reader.  Having RSS feeds into Safari
>> was pitiful.  NetNewsWire and Reeder (waiting for the latter to come
>> out with another update, btw) both put Apple to shame, as did
>> Reader.Google.com.  A pox on Google for killing that off, too.
>> 
>> Happy to hear other recommendations, btw.
> 
> Have you tried Vienna?
> 
> <http://www.vienna-rss.org/>

Thanks.

I tried it a couple of years ago.

At this point, I only want one that can sync.  With Google Reader gone, I am
using Feedly and Reeder 2 (iOS) works with that.  The Reeder guy is supposedly
getting ready to release a new OS X one. Until then, I'm making do with the
Feedly website which, actually, really isn't bad at all.

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#50718 — Re: Mac magazines

Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> wrote:

> On 2013-10-20 10:42:36 +0000, Paul Sture said:
> 
> > In article <l3nldq$kb7$1@reader1.panix.com>,
> >  Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Not that Apple ever made a decent reader.  Having RSS feeds into Safari
> >> was pitiful.  NetNewsWire and Reeder (waiting for the latter to come
> >> out with another update, btw) both put Apple to shame, as did
> >> Reader.Google.com.  A pox on Google for killing that off, too.
> >> 
> >> Happy to hear other recommendations, btw.
> > 
> > Have you tried Vienna?
> > 
> > <http://www.vienna-rss.org/>
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> I tried it a couple of years ago.
> 
> At this point, I only want one that can sync.  With Google Reader gone, I am
> using Feedly and Reeder 2 (iOS) works with that.  The Reeder guy is supposedly
> getting ready to release a new OS X one. Until then, I'm making do with the
> Feedly website which, actually, really isn't bad at all.

You could always keep Vienna's App Support folder synced acoss multiple
Macs via Dropbox using symbolic links. But yeah - there are better apps
if you want to sync your RSS feeds from device to device, and RSS app to
app cross-platform.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#50123

On 2013.10.16 20:19 , John Varela wrote:
> [crossposted to comp.sys.mac.misc. OT for comp.sys.mac.system.
> Follow-ups to csmm.]
>
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 16:38:47 UTC, dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel
> Cohen) wrote:
>
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In all the MANY years of using and adminstering Apple computers (since
>>> before there even was a Mac), I have only ever found ONE virus, and
>>> that was a Windows virus infecting a Word document on a floppy disk
>>> from a Windows user way back under Mac OS 8.
>>
>> Ph well, if you're going that far back, I will mention that once I had a
>> virus on my Mac (around system 6 pr 7), and that came from a cover disk
>> of a Mac magazine.
>
> Speaking of Mac magazines, does anyone else still read MacWorld?
> They ought to rename it IOSWorld. I think I'll let my subscription
> lapse. Can anyone recommend a Mac magazine that's still useful?

The WWW.

When I bought my first iMac I got a few months of MacWorld for free.  I 
thought it nice and then subscribed for a year.  But the useful unknown 
tips per issue ratio fell to a point where it wasn't worth opening them 
anymore so I didn't renew.

Between 9to5Mac, Macrumours, Macworld's own site and many more I'm more 
up to date (or can find something needed) much quicker than wading 
through a magazine that is mainly dedicated to selling add space.

Not to mention of course the avoidance of paper waste and the fossil 
fuel emissions and energy in printing the magazine and shipping it.


-- 
"Quotation, n: The act of repeating erroneously the words of another."
                                                 -Ambrose Bierce

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#50125

On 13-10-17 17:50, Alan Browne wrote:

> Between 9to5Mac, Macrumours, Macworld's own site and many more I'm more 
> up to date (or can find something needed) 

comp.sys.mac.system keeps one abreast of issues worth looking at.

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#50148

On 2013.10.17 17:52 , JF Mezei wrote:
> On 13-10-17 17:50, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> Between 9to5Mac, Macrumours, Macworld's own site and many more I'm more
>> up to date (or can find something needed)
>
> comp.sys.mac.system keeps one abreast of issues worth looking at.

I ask questions here from time to time and get good to excellent replies 
from the usual suspects - or nothing.

Searching the web I find the odd bit here and there and can usually find 
what I need.  Upcoming news or new things I don't find here much at all 
unless someone announces it (and sometimes I'm the announcer).

But this NG is not as good as it was 5 years ago and I suspect it was 
ever better 5 years before that.  (usenet groups everywhere have been 
suffering from quality issues).

-- 
"Quotation, n: The act of repeating erroneously the words of another."
                                                 -Ambrose Bierce

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