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3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons?

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  3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-06 09:11 -0700
    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-06 09:57 -0700
      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-06 11:53 -0700
        Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-06 13:02 -0700
          Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-06 13:07 -0700
    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-06 14:42 -0400
      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-06 12:07 -0700
        Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-06 15:28 -0400
          Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-06 13:01 -0700
            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-06 13:13 -0700
      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-06 16:05 -0400
        Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-07 18:05 -0400
          Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-10-08 11:38 -0400
            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-08 11:51 -0400
        Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-07 19:43 -0400
          Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-07 20:13 -0400
            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-07 20:21 -0400
        Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-10-07 17:01 -0700
        Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-07 19:03 -0700
          Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-09 01:34 +0000
            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-08 20:49 -0700
            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-09 17:01 -0400
        Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-07 21:19 -0700
          Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-09 01:33 +0000
            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-08 22:47 -0400
              Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-08 20:51 -0700
                Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-09 02:16 -0400
                Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-09 23:43 +0000
                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-09 20:19 -0400
                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-09 21:27 -0400
                      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-14 11:24 -0400
                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-09 17:28 -0700
                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-09 22:52 -0400
                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-10 19:12 -0700
            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> - 2013-10-09 20:40 -0400
            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-10-10 12:30 -0400
              Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-10 14:52 -0400
            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-11 18:48 +0000
              Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-11 15:56 -0400
                Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Joe from NY <giu@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-11 16:24 -0400
                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> - 2013-10-11 16:36 -0400
                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-11 17:13 -0400
                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-11 17:11 -0400
                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Joe from NY <giu@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-12 08:28 -0400
                      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-12 08:34 -0400
                Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)     huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring     back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-12 20:06 +0000
                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)     huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring     back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-13 08:03 -0700
                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)     huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring     back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-13 11:28 -0400
                      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)     huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring     back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Joe from NY <giu@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-13 16:00 -0400
                        Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)     huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring     back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-13 16:25 -0400
                          Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring     back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-13 18:23 -0400
                            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring     back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-13 18:31 -0400
                              Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring       back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 02:41 +0000
                                Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring       back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Joe from NY <giu@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-14 09:22 -0400
                                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring       back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 18:04 +0000
                                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring       back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-14 13:06 -0700
                                      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring       back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Joe from NY <giu@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-14 16:55 -0400
                                        Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring       back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-14 17:15 -0400
                                          Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)     huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring         back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-10-16 20:28 -0700
                                      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring       back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-15 19:21 +0200
                                        Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring       back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-10-15 15:46 -0400
                                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring       back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Joe from NY <giu@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-14 16:11 -0400
                                Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring       back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-14 11:00 -0400
                                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)     huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring         back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 18:03 +0000
                                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)     huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring         back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-14 14:26 -0400
                          Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring     back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-14 18:50 +0200
                            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring     back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-14 14:26 -0400
                            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring     back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-15 04:21 +0000
                              Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring     back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-15 19:12 +0200
              Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-11 20:37 -0700
          Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2013-10-12 15:44 -0700
            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-12 21:08 -0400
              Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2013-10-13 09:12 -0700
                Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-13 12:30 -0400
                Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-13 14:51 -0400
            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-12 20:44 -0700
              Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-13 14:28 +0000
                Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-13 07:57 -0700
                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-13 20:35 +0000
                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-13 18:23 -0400
                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-13 17:17 -0700
                      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-14 00:43 +0000
                        Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-14 07:23 -0400
                          Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-14 08:29 -0400
                          Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-14 18:53 +0200
                        Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5:   Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time   Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD   icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 18:13 +0000
                          Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5:   Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time   Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD   icons? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-15 04:18 +0000
                            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-14 21:41 -0700
                              Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-16 18:18 +0000
                                Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-17 04:11 +0000
              Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-13 11:06 -0400
                Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-13 09:30 -0700
                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-13 12:40 -0400
                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-13 14:51 -0400
                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 18:22 +0000
                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-14 13:04 -0700
                      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 21:56 +0000
                        Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-14 18:20 -0400
                          Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-16 18:21 +0000
                            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? John White <jccw@jccw.removeme.org> - 2013-10-16 15:02 -0400
                              Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-16 19:59 +0000
                            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-17 04:12 +0000
                        Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-14 18:16 -0700
                          Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-16 18:24 +0000
              Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2013-10-13 09:10 -0700
                Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-13 14:51 -0400
                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-13 14:12 -0700
                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-13 18:23 -0400
                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2013-10-14 14:44 -0700
                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 22:02 +0000
                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-14 18:04 -0400
                      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)     huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring     back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-16 18:26 +0000
                      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)     huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring     back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-10-16 20:30 -0700
                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 22:07 +0000
                      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-14 19:53 -0400
                        Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-16 18:38 +0000
                          Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-16 17:13 -0400
                            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-17 00:34 +0000
                              Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-16 23:12 -0400
                                Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2013-10-17 14:27 -0700
                                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-17 17:50 -0400
                                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-17 18:04 -0400
                                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-17 20:53 -0400
                                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-18 01:00 -0400
                                      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-18 03:09 -0400
                                      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)     huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring     back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-19 00:09 +0000
                                Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-19 00:51 +0000
                                  Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-18 21:12 -0400
                                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-19 21:04 +0000
                                      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-19 21:07 -0400
                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-14 16:49 -0700
                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-14 19:53 -0400
                    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-14 19:16 -0700
                      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-14 20:41 -0700
                Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 18:28 +0000
            Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering)   huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring   back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-13 10:02 -0400
    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-06 16:12 -0400
      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-06 13:13 -0700
      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> - 2013-10-06 17:54 -0400
    Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Saint Isidore Patron Saint of the Internet <tadapope@gmail.com> - 2013-10-17 19:22 -0700
      Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-18 05:42 -0700

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#49536 — 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons?

Hi again.

I just ran into a weird/an odd usability issue that bugged me in an 
updated Mac OS X 10.8.5 earlier:

I tossed a huge 4.5 GB folder into Mac OS X 10.8.5's Trash bin. I 
decided to restore it back to the same exact place by dragging the 
folder back to the same place in Finder. However, it did a copy. 
Shouldn't it be a move? Isn't there a restore to the back place option?

2. I renamed an external HDD's name that was used for Time Machine (TM) 
back up. When I went to back up, it told me it couldn't. So, I looked at 
TM settings. I noticed it was looking for the old name even though it 
was the same exact disk. I told it to reuse the renamed disk to resume. 
Why is it that picky on my renamed disk drive?

3. Also, how do I get back Finder's sidebar icon for mounted external 
USB HDD? I accidently removed it. Unmounting and remounting doesn't make 
it come back.

Thank you in advance. :)
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#49541

In article <07edndf9S_Q_FszPnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> Hi again.
> 
> I just ran into a weird/an odd usability issue that bugged me in an 
> updated Mac OS X 10.8.5 earlier:
> 
> I tossed a huge 4.5 GB folder into Mac OS X 10.8.5's Trash bin. I 
> decided to restore it back to the same exact place by dragging the 
> folder back to the same place in Finder. However, it did a copy. 
> Shouldn't it be a move? Isn't there a restore to the back place option?
> 
> 2. I renamed an external HDD's name that was used for Time Machine (TM) 
> back up. When I went to back up, it told me it couldn't. So, I looked at 
> TM settings. I noticed it was looking for the old name even though it 
> was the same exact disk. I told it to reuse the renamed disk to resume. 
> Why is it that picky on my renamed disk drive?
> 
> 3. Also, how do I get back Finder's sidebar icon for mounted external 
> USB HDD? I accidently removed it. Unmounting and remounting doesn't make 
> it come back.
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)

Not sure I follow what you did here.

You out a 4.5GB BigFolder/ into the Trash.  Was it originally on volume 
Mac HDD and already on the Desktop or somewhere else?  Or on some other 
disk?  If you drag it back to the Desktop, you're either doing a UNIX mv 
if it's on the same volume OR any of the subfolders in BigFolder require 
additional privileges to move the folder.  Otherwise, you do a cp.

You can't, AFAIK, rename devices on TM.  That's the way TM was designed.  
Contact Apple if you have issues with TM.  There are User Forums where 
you can vent your spleen to your hearts content about why and how MacOS 
isn't working the way you want to.  Here, all we can really say is 
"Thank you for sharing".

You should be able to Unhide the sidebar from the View menu.  Did you 
look there?

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#49551

On 10/6/2013 9:57 AM PT, Michael Vilain typed:

> You out a 4.5GB BigFolder/ into the Trash.  Was it originally on volume
> Mac HDD and already on the Desktop or somewhere else?  Or on some other
> disk?  If you drag it back to the Desktop, you're either doing a UNIX mv
> if it's on the same volume OR any of the subfolders in BigFolder require
> additional privileges to move the folder.  Otherwise, you do a cp.

It was originally in a 13.3" MacBook Pro (mid-2012)'s internal HDD's 
/Archives/. I told Finder to put back into it by dragging the folder 
from Trash bin back to / through Finder windows. Same exact place/location.


> You can't, AFAIK, rename devices on TM.  That's the way TM was designed.

Uh, I was able to rename both external drives through Finder and desktop 
with their mounted icons.


> Contact Apple if you have issues with TM.  There are User Forums where
> you can vent your spleen to your hearts content about why and how MacOS
> isn't working the way you want to.  Here, all we can really say is
> "Thank you for sharing".

I did post in Apple forum, but nothing so far. Is there somewhere to 
else to send in my feedbacks?


> You should be able to Unhide the sidebar from the View menu.  Did you
> look there?

No, I removed the devices from Sidebar. Sidebar is still there. I just 
want to bring back the device icons in Sidebar that I removed. I noticed 
my TimeMachine drive does come back, but not the FAT32 one. Here is a 
screen shot/capture of it in action: http://i.imgur.com/dkGrRM6.gif ...
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#49559

In article <OJadnUnixskuLMzPnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> No, I removed the devices from Sidebar. Sidebar is still there. I just 
> want to bring back the device icons in Sidebar that I removed. I noticed 
> my TimeMachine drive does come back, but not the FAT32 one.

Just drag it there from the Desktop or the computer's window.

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#49561

On 10/6/2013 1:02 PM PT, Michelle Steiner typed:

>> No, I removed the devices from Sidebar. Sidebar is still there. I just
>> want to bring back the device icons in Sidebar that I removed. I noticed
>> my TimeMachine drive does come back, but not the FAT32 one.
>
> Just drag it there from the Desktop or the computer's window.

Hmm, I tried that earlier but nothing happened. Anyways, I got it fixed 
from Alan's re(ply/sponse) in Finder's Preferences.
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#49549

On 2013.10.06 12:11 , Ant wrote:
> Hi again.
>
> I just ran into a weird/an odd usability issue that bugged me in an
> updated Mac OS X 10.8.5 earlier:
>
> I tossed a huge 4.5 GB folder into Mac OS X 10.8.5's Trash bin. I
> decided to restore it back to the same exact place by dragging the
> folder back to the same place in Finder. However, it did a copy.
> Shouldn't it be a move? Isn't there a restore to the back place option?

Maybe you deleted a different copy and then dragged it out of the trash 
to where the other copy already existed.

To be sure you put back something where you deleted it from: point at 
the file/folder in trash, right click and "Put back".

Files in the trash are not actually anywhere different. They are simply 
marked as trash and listed in the volume trash folder (hidden ".Trashes" 
folder) and made invisible to the user when viewing that volume/folders 
- except via the Trash bin.  (The trash "folder" shows trash from many 
folders and drives - but each drive has its own .Trashes "folder" where 
trashed files are "located").

> 2. I renamed an external HDD's name that was used for Time Machine (TM)
> back up. When I went to back up, it told me it couldn't. So, I looked at
> TM settings. I noticed it was looking for the old name even though it
> was the same exact disk. I told it to reuse the renamed disk to resume.
> Why is it that picky on my renamed disk drive?

See Michael's reply.

>
> 3. Also, how do I get back Finder's sidebar icon for mounted external
> USB HDD? I accidently removed it. Unmounting and remounting doesn't make
> it come back.

   Finder | Preferences | Sidebar  [ DEVICES ...]


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#49552

On 10/6/2013 11:42 AM PT, Alan Browne typed:

>> I just ran into a weird/an odd usability issue that bugged me in an
>> updated Mac OS X 10.8.5 earlier:
>>
>> I tossed a huge 4.5 GB folder into Mac OS X 10.8.5's Trash bin. I
>> decided to restore it back to the same exact place by dragging the
>> folder back to the same place in Finder. However, it did a copy.
>> Shouldn't it be a move? Isn't there a restore to the back place option?
>
> Maybe you deleted a different copy and then dragged it out of the trash
> to where the other copy already existed.
>
> To be sure you put back something where you deleted it from: point at
> the file/folder in trash, right click and "Put back".

Ah, I did not see that option but then I was using the 13.3" MacBook 
Pro's trackpad without an external mouse hooked up for easy right 
access. In Windows, I just move to the new location assuming it is on 
the same drive.


> Files in the trash are not actually anywhere different. They are simply
> marked as trash and listed in the volume trash folder (hidden ".Trashes"
> folder) and made invisible to the user when viewing that volume/folders
> - except via the Trash bin.  (The trash "folder" shows trash from many
> folders and drives - but each drive has its own .Trashes "folder" where
> trashed files are "located").

So if user moves it out of the Trash folder on the SAME drive, it should 
be a move/unmarked from deletion if emptied.


>> 3. Also, how do I get back Finder's sidebar icon for mounted external
>> USB HDD? I accidently removed it. Unmounting and remounting doesn't make
>> it come back.
>
>    Finder | Preferences | Sidebar  [ DEVICES ...]

Perfect!!!!! That's a strange place for them. I looking in View menu's 
options. Sheesh. I noticed there are three different options: Full, 
some, or none. It sounds like user can't select which device to hide or 
show?
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#49553

On 2013.10.06 15:07 , Ant wrote:
> On 10/6/2013 11:42 AM PT, Alan Browne typed:
>
>>> I just ran into a weird/an odd usability issue that bugged me in an
>>> updated Mac OS X 10.8.5 earlier:
>>>
>>> I tossed a huge 4.5 GB folder into Mac OS X 10.8.5's Trash bin. I
>>> decided to restore it back to the same exact place by dragging the
>>> folder back to the same place in Finder. However, it did a copy.
>>> Shouldn't it be a move? Isn't there a restore to the back place option?
>>
>> Maybe you deleted a different copy and then dragged it out of the trash
>> to where the other copy already existed.
>>
>> To be sure you put back something where you deleted it from: point at
>> the file/folder in trash, right click and "Put back".
>
> Ah, I did not see that option but then I was using the 13.3" MacBook
> Pro's trackpad without an external mouse hooked up for easy right
> access. In Windows, I just move to the new location assuming it is on
> the same drive.

A right-click on a trackpad is usually two-fingers touching the pad, or 
one finger clicking the lower right corner of the pad.

>> Files in the trash are not actually anywhere different. They are simply
>> marked as trash and listed in the volume trash folder (hidden ".Trashes"
>> folder) and made invisible to the user when viewing that volume/folders
>> - except via the Trash bin.  (The trash "folder" shows trash from many
>> folders and drives - but each drive has its own .Trashes "folder" where
>> trashed files are "located").
>
> So if user moves it out of the Trash folder on the SAME drive, it should
> be a move/unmarked from deletion if emptied.

It simply puts it in the folder that you drag it to (move) or copies it 
to a folder on another drive. In the later case the copy in trash 
remains in trash.

>>> 3. Also, how do I get back Finder's sidebar icon for mounted external
>>> USB HDD? I accidently removed it. Unmounting and remounting doesn't make
>>> it come back.
>>
>>    Finder | Preferences | Sidebar  [ DEVICES ...]
>
> Perfect!!!!! That's a strange place for them. I looking in View menu's
> options. Sheesh. I noticed there are three different options: Full,
> some, or none. It sounds like user can't select which device to hide or
> show?

It is Apple OS X.  It is good.  Even when it isn't.


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#49558

In article <_aqdnSas5IVVJMzPnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
 Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> A right-click on a trackpad is usually two-fingers touching the pad, or 
> one finger clicking the lower right corner of the pad.

Right or left corner, depending on how you set it up.
System Preferences/Point & Click/Secondary click

But it's either two-finger tap or clicking the corner in Mountain Lion (and 
maybe Lion); in Snow Leopard, you could have both.

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#49564

On 10/6/2013 1:01 PM PT, Michelle Steiner typed:

>> A right-click on a trackpad is usually two-fingers touching the pad, or
>> one finger clicking the lower right corner of the pad.
>
> Right or left corner, depending on how you set it up.
> System Preferences/Point & Click/Secondary click
>
> But it's either two-finger tap or clicking the corner in Mountain Lion (and
> maybe Lion); in Snow Leopard, you could have both.

Hmm. I will have to try again later. Sometimes it thinks I am doing 
something else like doing that show everything (have to hit esc key to 
get out of it), not left clicking, etc. I think it is the way I have my 
fingers (I am disabled and have no thumbs on both of my small hands) on 
the trackpads. I am not a fan of touch screen and gestures. I still 
prefer clicky keyboards, trackballs, and external simple light wired 
mice (not those pointy sticks on keyboards).
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tell us of the nature of the ant." --Saint Basil quote from his letter 
XVI written against Eunomius the Heretic
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#49560

>> I tossed a huge 4.5 GB folder into Mac OS X 10.8.5's Trash bin. I
>> decided to restore it back to the same exact place by dragging the
>> folder back to the same place in Finder. However, it did a copy.
>> Shouldn't it be a move? Isn't there a restore to the back place option?

Generally, restoring an item is a "move", not a "copy".

However, a copy happens if the system views the item being restored from
the trash as being on a volume that is different from the destination.

The "Desktop" and Trash directories are special in that they can contain
items from multiple places.

Dragging an item from volume 2 to the Trash actually moves it to the
.Trashes directory for volume 2. But it appears in your Trash folder in
Finder along with deleted documents from Volume 1.

When you drag it from the Finder's Trash to the Desktop, by default, it
thinks you want to move it to your home drive on volume 1, and since
that item still resides on volume 2, it needs to be copied over to the
home desktop on volume 1.

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#49657 — Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons?

In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-LDCzcU51dSYE@localhost>, John Varela
<newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:

> > The "Desktop" and Trash directories are special in that they can contain
> > items from multiple places.
>  
> Which is a usability problem at times. For example, to free up space
> on a portable drive, move no-longer-needed files to the Trash and 
> then empty Trash. But that empties Trash on all other drives, too, 
> and maybe the User for whatever reason would rather not do that.

the trash is *not* for storage. 

if you don't want something deleted, do not put it in the trash. 

if you put something in the trash, you obviously do not want it.
otherwise, why put it there at all? put it in a folder someplace if you
want to keep it.

> If there's a way to delete Trash on only one drive I'd like to know 
> it.

don't put anything you want to keep in the trash. 

however, there are third party apps that let you do that.

> One could go to Terminal and rm the unwanted files but that can be 
> tedious.

very.

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#49697 — Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons?

In article <071020131805138710%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-LDCzcU51dSYE@localhost>, John Varela
> <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> > > The "Desktop" and Trash directories are special in that they can contain
> > > items from multiple places.
> >  
> > Which is a usability problem at times. For example, to free up space
> > on a portable drive, move no-longer-needed files to the Trash and 
> > then empty Trash. But that empties Trash on all other drives, too, 
> > and maybe the User for whatever reason would rather not do that.
> 
> the trash is *not* for storage. 
> 
> if you don't want something deleted, do not put it in the trash. 
> 
> if you put something in the trash, you obviously do not want it.
> otherwise, why put it there at all? put it in a folder someplace if you
> want to keep it.

I completely agree with you in principle that trash is not a place for 
storage. However (you knew that was coming), 'if you want to keep it' 
can be problematic. I regularly encounter clients who have this thought: 
'I _think_ I'm done with this file, and I want to get it out of the way 
so I don't accidentally open it or confuse it with a later version. Yet, 
I may just still need it.' A very real-world circumstance. 

What I suggest is a 'pretrash' folder on the Desktop. The client can 
drag candidates for disposal there for temporary storage and then purge 
the contents in the usual way when they're sure the items should go. 
(The usual caveats about letting a temporary folder get bloated because 
nothing is ever deleted apply.)

Usage Note: You have to create a pretrash folder for _each_ mounted 
volume ('pretrash Disk1', 'pretrash Disk2', etc.) and drag only items 
from that volume to that volume's pretrash to prevent duplicating the 
item. While multiple pretrashes can be confusing to some, those aren't 
usually the users who have more than one mounted volume.

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#49698 — Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons?

In article <fmoore-5FB575.11385008102013@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

> > the trash is *not* for storage. 
> > 
> > if you don't want something deleted, do not put it in the trash. 
> > 
> > if you put something in the trash, you obviously do not want it.
> > otherwise, why put it there at all? put it in a folder someplace if you
> > want to keep it.
> 
> I completely agree with you in principle that trash is not a place for 
> storage. However (you knew that was coming), 'if you want to keep it' 
> can be problematic. I regularly encounter clients who have this thought: 
> 'I _think_ I'm done with this file, and I want to get it out of the way 
> so I don't accidentally open it or confuse it with a later version. Yet, 
> I may just still need it.' A very real-world circumstance. 

how is it real world? 

do these same people put paper documents in the trash can next to their
desk for storage?

do they then wonder where those documents went after whoever usually
empties the trash did so? 

or do they put a sign on the trash can saying 'do not empty, important
documents stored here' ? 

trash means it's no longer needed. that's why it's called trash. 

if someone wants to keep a file, they should not put it in the trash.
very simple.

> What I suggest is a 'pretrash' folder on the Desktop. The client can 
> drag candidates for disposal there for temporary storage and then purge 
> the contents in the usual way when they're sure the items should go. 
> (The usual caveats about letting a temporary folder get bloated because 
> nothing is ever deleted apply.)

that's one way.

keep in mind that deleted files can be recovered from a time machine
backup, and not just the latest one either, so there's really no need
to do any of this nonsense.

if a file that was put in the trash is needed for some reason, pull it
off a backup. 

> Usage Note: You have to create a pretrash folder for _each_ mounted 
> volume ('pretrash Disk1', 'pretrash Disk2', etc.) and drag only items 
> from that volume to that volume's pretrash to prevent duplicating the 
> item. 

you could also use labels, aka tags, and not have to move the file
anywhere. just label it with a particular colour that indicates it's
not important anymore but don't want to trash just yet.

> While multiple pretrashes can be confusing to some, those aren't 
> usually the users who have more than one mounted volume.

also true.

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#49658 — Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons?

On 2013.10.07 18:02 , John Varela wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 20:05:27 UTC, JF Mezei
> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>> The "Desktop" and Trash directories are special in that they can contain
>> items from multiple places.
>
> Which is a usability problem at times. For example, to free up space
> on a portable drive, move no-longer-needed files to the Trash and
> then empty Trash. But that empties Trash on all other drives, too,
> and maybe the User for whatever reason would rather not do that.

It's not for storage - it's an "oops" step of 2nd to last resort.


>
> If there's a way to delete Trash on only one drive I'd like to know
> it.
>
> One could go to Terminal and rm the unwanted files but that can be
> tedious.

I don't think you can - perhaps with sudo.

Hmm - I'm definitely not a terminal cowboy - but I threw something in 
the trash and navigated to it.  Won't list "ls -al" anything (permission 
denied).

Shelled as admin and tried ls there with sudo:
total 0
d-wx-wx-wt@  2 root  wheel    68 Sep 26 22:41 .
drwxr-xr-x  39 root  wheel  1394 Oct  7 18:55 ..

No sign of the file.  Maybe 'cause it belongs to the other account.

So logged into admin, created a file and deleted that.  Verified it was 
in the trash.  Entered terminal and navigated to the trash ...

nothing showing other than the . and .. sudo or not sudo.

So - Trashes is a special place indeed and does not allow one to screw 
around - at least not easily.

And "empty trash" applies to all the mounted volumes.

Moral of the story?  Do your backups and don't trash anything you're not 
sure of and if not sure, check the trash before emptying it.

Just don't temporarily put anything in there that you might need.

-- 
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
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#49662

In article <wv6dncgTAI-D2s7PnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
 Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2013.10.07 18:02 , John Varela wrote:
> > On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 20:05:27 UTC, JF Mezei
> > <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> The "Desktop" and Trash directories are special in that they can contain
> >> items from multiple places.
> >
> > Which is a usability problem at times. For example, to free up space
> > on a portable drive, move no-longer-needed files to the Trash and
> > then empty Trash. But that empties Trash on all other drives, too,
> > and maybe the User for whatever reason would rather not do that.
> 
> It's not for storage - it's an "oops" step of 2nd to last resort.
> 
> 
> >
> > If there's a way to delete Trash on only one drive I'd like to know
> > it.
> >
> > One could go to Terminal and rm the unwanted files but that can be
> > tedious.
> 
> I don't think you can - perhaps with sudo.
> 
> Hmm - I'm definitely not a terminal cowboy - but I threw something in 
> the trash and navigated to it.  Won't list "ls -al" anything (permission 
> denied).
> 
> Shelled as admin and tried ls there with sudo:
> total 0
> d-wx-wx-wt@  2 root  wheel    68 Sep 26 22:41 .
> drwxr-xr-x  39 root  wheel  1394 Oct  7 18:55 ..
> 
> No sign of the file.  Maybe 'cause it belongs to the other account.
> 
> So logged into admin, created a file and deleted that.  Verified it was 
> in the trash.  Entered terminal and navigated to the trash ...
> 
> nothing showing other than the . and .. sudo or not sudo.
> 
> So - Trashes is a special place indeed and does not allow one to screw 
> around - at least not easily.
> 
> And "empty trash" applies to all the mounted volumes.
> 
> Moral of the story?  Do your backups and don't trash anything you're not 
> sure of and if not sure, check the trash before emptying it.
> 
> Just don't temporarily put anything in there that you might need.

There are several ".Trashes" folders. one in "/", one in each users home 
folder, and one on each mounted volume. Superuser privs are required to 
delete files from any but the user's home directory.

-- 
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of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy. -- Ambrose Bierce

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#49664

On 2013.10.07 20:13 , Tom Stiller wrote:
> In article <wv6dncgTAI-D2s7PnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2013.10.07 18:02 , John Varela wrote:
>>> On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 20:05:27 UTC, JF Mezei
>>> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The "Desktop" and Trash directories are special in that they can contain
>>>> items from multiple places.
>>>
>>> Which is a usability problem at times. For example, to free up space
>>> on a portable drive, move no-longer-needed files to the Trash and
>>> then empty Trash. But that empties Trash on all other drives, too,
>>> and maybe the User for whatever reason would rather not do that.
>>
>> It's not for storage - it's an "oops" step of 2nd to last resort.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> If there's a way to delete Trash on only one drive I'd like to know
>>> it.
>>>
>>> One could go to Terminal and rm the unwanted files but that can be
>>> tedious.
>>
>> I don't think you can - perhaps with sudo.
>>
>> Hmm - I'm definitely not a terminal cowboy - but I threw something in
>> the trash and navigated to it.  Won't list "ls -al" anything (permission
>> denied).
>>
>> Shelled as admin and tried ls there with sudo:
>> total 0
>> d-wx-wx-wt@  2 root  wheel    68 Sep 26 22:41 .
>> drwxr-xr-x  39 root  wheel  1394 Oct  7 18:55 ..
>>
>> No sign of the file.  Maybe 'cause it belongs to the other account.
>>
>> So logged into admin, created a file and deleted that.  Verified it was
>> in the trash.  Entered terminal and navigated to the trash ...
>>
>> nothing showing other than the . and .. sudo or not sudo.
>>
>> So - Trashes is a special place indeed and does not allow one to screw
>> around - at least not easily.
>>
>> And "empty trash" applies to all the mounted volumes.
>>
>> Moral of the story?  Do your backups and don't trash anything you're not
>> sure of and if not sure, check the trash before emptying it.
>>
>> Just don't temporarily put anything in there that you might need.
>
> There are several ".Trashes" folders. one in "/", one in each users home
> folder, and one on each mounted volume. Superuser privs are required to
> delete files from any but the user's home directory.

Ah ... I didn't nav around enough.  Some other day for such ... time for 
beddie byes ... or Netflix anyway.



-- 
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illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
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#49661 — Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons?

On 2013-10-07 22:02:19 +0000, John Varela said:

> On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 20:05:27 UTC, JF Mezei
> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> 
>> The "Desktop" and Trash directories are special in that they can contain
>> items from multiple places.
> 
> Which is a usability problem at times. For example, to free up space
> on a portable drive, move no-longer-needed files to the Trash and
> then empty Trash. But that empties Trash on all other drives, too,
> and maybe the User for whatever reason would rather not do that.
> 
> If there's a way to delete Trash on only one drive I'd like to know
> it.

<http://www.cocoatech.com/pathfinder/>

Hugely helpful app.

(No, not terribly cheap.  But like many other things, one can periodically
find it in a bundle.  As much as I use it, it's worth full price to me.  YMMV.)

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#49666 — Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons?

In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-LDCzcU51dSYE@localhost>,
 "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:

> Which is a usability problem at times. For example, to free up space
> on a portable drive, move no-longer-needed files to the Trash and 
> then empty Trash. But that empties Trash on all other drives, too, 
> and maybe the User for whatever reason would rather not do that.

Then he shouldn't have put them there in the first place.  It's a trash 
can, not a storage bin.

> If there's a way to delete Trash on only one drive I'd like to know 
> it.

Unmount all the other drives.

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#49729 — Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons?

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 02:03:47 UTC, Michelle Steiner 
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-LDCzcU51dSYE@localhost>,
>  "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> > Which is a usability problem at times. For example, to free up space
> > on a portable drive, move no-longer-needed files to the Trash and 
> > then empty Trash. But that empties Trash on all other drives, too, 
> > and maybe the User for whatever reason would rather not do that.
> 
> Then he shouldn't have put them there in the first place.  It's a trash 
> can, not a storage bin.
> 
> > If there's a way to delete Trash on only one drive I'd like to know 
> > it.
> 
> Unmount all the other drives.

Can't unmount the boot drive.

-- 
John Varela

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