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  The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-26 08:43 -0400
    Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-09-26 13:14 +0000
      Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-26 16:43 -0400
        Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-09-27 09:24 +1200
        Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-09-27 09:49 +1200
          Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-26 17:56 -0400
        Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-09-26 19:02 -0400
          Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-26 20:20 -0400
            Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-09-26 21:52 -0400
              Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-28 07:43 -0400
    Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-09-26 13:53 +0000
      Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-09-26 08:23 -0700
        Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-26 16:55 -0400
          Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-26 17:08 -0400
            Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-26 17:26 -0400
        Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-09-27 09:32 +1200
          Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-26 17:55 -0400
            Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-09-26 16:08 -0700
              Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-26 20:22 -0400
          Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-09-26 15:54 -0700
          Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-09-26 19:23 -0400
            Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-26 19:29 -0400
            Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-09-27 19:08 +1200
              Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-09-27 03:41 -0400
              Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-09-27 07:44 -0700
                Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-09-28 09:37 +1200
      Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-26 16:51 -0400
        Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-26 17:08 -0400
          Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-26 17:25 -0400
    Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-26 10:28 -0400
      Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-26 16:52 -0400
        Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-26 17:08 -0400
          Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-26 17:25 -0400
    Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-09-26 15:51 -0400
      Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-26 15:59 -0400
        Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-09-26 16:08 -0400
          Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-26 16:16 -0400
          Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-09-26 13:19 -0700
          Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-09-27 09:28 +1200
            Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-09-26 15:47 -0700
      Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-26 17:22 -0400
        Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-09-27 11:01 +1200
          Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-26 20:19 -0400
            Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-09-26 22:09 -0400
              Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-09-27 16:31 +1200
                Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-09-27 00:54 -0400
              Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-09-29 20:33 +0200
            Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-09-27 14:42 +1200
              Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-09-29 21:02 +0200
                Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-09-30 01:51 -0400
                  Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-01 09:22 +1200
                  Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-10-01 12:45 +1300
    Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question billy@MIX.COM - 2013-09-26 22:51 +0000
      Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-26 18:55 -0400
        Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-09-29 17:02 +0200
          Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-29 17:44 -0400
    Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2013-09-27 08:33 +0200
      Re: The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-28 07:45 -0400

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#49031 — The usual dumbass Migration Assistant Question

New iMac should be here tomorrow.  Probably won't have time to do much 
with it until next week.

My plan is to migrate-assist only apps and transfer user data in the BG 
when up and running.  That's the huge bulk of the machine in any case 
and there is cruft I'd probably leave behind.  That would get me my apps 
quickly while leaving user data for a more leisurely transfer via the 
ethernet network (and available if needed via same) while I fool around, 
er, carefully explore the new machine.  Comments?

- What happens to licensed s/w such as Photoshop?  Do I have to 
de-authorize on the source and authorize on target?


-- 
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
                                                  -Unknown

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#49032

Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> My plan is to migrate-assist only apps and transfer user data in the BG 
> when up and running.  That's the huge bulk of the machine in any case 
> and there is cruft I'd probably leave behind.  That would get me my apps 
> quickly while leaving user data for a more leisurely transfer via the 
> ethernet network (and available if needed via same) while I fool around, 
> er, carefully explore the new machine.  Comments?

I wouldn't do that. You'll be going about it the hard way. Setting up a 
fresh user account on the new system and then trying to migrate all your 
data over to it from an old system can be a real PITA. Don't use 
Migration Assistant at all. Use Setup Assistant, which will grab 
everything from your old system right from the beginning. If you then 
have stuff on the new machine you don't want, delete it.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#49042

On 2013.09.26 09:14 , Király wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> My plan is to migrate-assist only apps and transfer user data in the BG
>> when up and running.  That's the huge bulk of the machine in any case
>> and there is cruft I'd probably leave behind.  That would get me my apps
>> quickly while leaving user data for a more leisurely transfer via the
>> ethernet network (and available if needed via same) while I fool around,
>> er, carefully explore the new machine.  Comments?
>
> I wouldn't do that. You'll be going about it the hard way. Setting up a
> fresh user account on the new system and then trying to migrate all your
> data over to it from an old system can be a real PITA. Don't use
> Migration Assistant at all. Use Setup Assistant, which will grab
> everything from your old system right from the beginning. If you then
> have stuff on the new machine you don't want, delete it.

I don't agree that migrating data is a real PITA - it's just moving 
files that would get moved one way or the other.

You do point out the detail I forgot about: Setup Assistant v. Migration 
assistant.

But, per this page: http://pondini.org/OSX/SetupLion.html
the default folders (Documents, Pictures, etc.) will be transferred 
whether I want them to or not using "Setup Asst.".  That is not 
preferable to me as I'll lose the machines during transfer (Pictures 
alone has close to half a TB in it as I save all my raw photo files).

-- 
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
                                                  -Unknown

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#49052

In article <PYGdnbyk1IMeAdnPnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2013.09.26 09:14 , Király wrote:
> > Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> >> My plan is to migrate-assist only apps and transfer user data in the BG
> >> when up and running.  That's the huge bulk of the machine in any case
> >> and there is cruft I'd probably leave behind.  That would get me my apps
> >> quickly while leaving user data for a more leisurely transfer via the
> >> ethernet network (and available if needed via same) while I fool around,
> >> er, carefully explore the new machine.  Comments?
> >
> > I wouldn't do that. You'll be going about it the hard way. Setting up a
> > fresh user account on the new system and then trying to migrate all your
> > data over to it from an old system can be a real PITA. Don't use
> > Migration Assistant at all. Use Setup Assistant, which will grab
> > everything from your old system right from the beginning. If you then
> > have stuff on the new machine you don't want, delete it.
> 
> I don't agree that migrating data is a real PITA - it's just moving 
> files that would get moved one way or the other.
> 
> You do point out the detail I forgot about: Setup Assistant v. Migration 
> assistant.
> 
> But, per this page: http://pondini.org/OSX/SetupLion.html
> the default folders (Documents, Pictures, etc.) will be transferred 
> whether I want them to or not using "Setup Asst.".  That is not 
> preferable to me as I'll lose the machines during transfer (Pictures 
> alone has close to half a TB in it as I save all my raw photo files).

Set-up Assisteant transfers the account fully intact with the same
internal Mac OS X user ID.

Migration Assistant requires you to cerate a new account, then transfer
over the old material, at which stage it creates a new account with a
new internal Mac OS X user ID ... which can cause all sorts of annoying
issues.

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#49059

Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2013.09.26 09:14 , Király wrote:
> > Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> >> My plan is to migrate-assist only apps and transfer user data in the BG
> >> when up and running.  That's the huge bulk of the machine in any case
> >> and there is cruft I'd probably leave behind.  That would get me my apps
> >> quickly while leaving user data for a more leisurely transfer via the
> >> ethernet network (and available if needed via same) while I fool around,
> >> er, carefully explore the new machine.  Comments?
> >
> > I wouldn't do that. You'll be going about it the hard way. Setting up a
> > fresh user account on the new system and then trying to migrate all your
> > data over to it from an old system can be a real PITA. Don't use
> > Migration Assistant at all. Use Setup Assistant, which will grab
> > everything from your old system right from the beginning. If you then
> > have stuff on the new machine you don't want, delete it.
> 
> I don't agree that migrating data is a real PITA - it's just moving 
> files that would get moved one way or the other.
> 
> You do point out the detail I forgot about: Setup Assistant v. Migration
> assistant.
> 
> But, per this page: http://pondini.org/OSX/SetupLion.html
> the default folders (Documents, Pictures, etc.) will be transferred 
> whether I want them to or not using "Setup Asst.".  That is not 
> preferable to me as I'll lose the machines during transfer (Pictures 
> alone has close to half a TB in it as I save all my raw photo files).

Move the folders you don't want to migrate out of your user account home
folder beforehand, and then don't select the "other files and folders"
option.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#49062

On 2013.09.26 17:49 , David Empson wrote:
> Move the folders you don't want to migrate out of your user account home
> folder beforehand, and then don't select the "other files and folders"
> option.

It's not that I don't want to move them - it's that I want the new 
system up and running to play with it asap.  I guess I'll have to be 
adult about it.  Damnit.

-- 
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
                                                  -Unknown

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#49071

On 13-09-26 16:43, Alan Browne wrote:

> whether I want them to or not using "Setup Asst.".  That is not 
> preferable to me as I'll lose the machines during transfer (Pictures 
> alone has close to half a TB in it as I save all my raw photo files).

On old machine, move such large folders in your home directory to
"/Transfer Later" in the disk root directory. This allows the Setup
Assistant to move your account seamlessly, and you can then move the
remainder of files at your leasure.

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#49076

On 2013.09.26 19:02 , JF Mezei wrote:
> On 13-09-26 16:43, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> whether I want them to or not using "Setup Asst.".  That is not
>> preferable to me as I'll lose the machines during transfer (Pictures
>> alone has close to half a TB in it as I save all my raw photo files).
>
> On old machine, move such large folders in your home directory to
> "/Transfer Later" in the disk root directory. This allows the Setup
> Assistant to move your account seamlessly, and you can then move the
> remainder of files at your leasure.

Sounds nice.   What happens to the UUID's?  (See David E's reply for 
context).


-- 
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
                                                  -Unknown

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#49079

On 13-09-26 20:20, Alan Browne wrote:

> Sounds nice.   What happens to the UUID's?  (See David E's reply for 
> context).

When you create the "Transfer later" folder, set its owner to be you As
you copy your documents from inside your home directory to the "transfer
later", they should retain same ownership.

If you have not set any ACLs on files/directories, this should be very
straighforward.

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#49109

On 2013.09.26 21:52 , JF Mezei wrote:
> On 13-09-26 20:20, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> Sounds nice.   What happens to the UUID's?  (See David E's reply for
>> context).
>
> When you create the "Transfer later" folder, set its owner to be you As
> you copy your documents from inside your home directory to the "transfer
> later", they should retain same ownership.
>
> If you have not set any ACLs on files/directories, this should be very
> straighforward.

I  added "remove ACL's" to my pre-transfer checklist.

But in the end I used Setup Assistant - took a little over 5 hours.


-- 
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
                                                  -Unknown

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#49033

In message <PdCdnf7sI9icsdnPnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@giganews.com> 
  Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> New iMac should be here tomorrow.  Probably won't have time to do much 
> with it until next week.

> My plan is to migrate-assist only apps and transfer user data in the BG 
> when up and running.

That is not a good idea. If you don't want to copy all the user
settings, then I would setup the new machine without any migration
assistant use, copy the apps from the old machine, and start over.

> - What happens to licensed s/w such as Photoshop?  Do I have to 
> de-authorize on the source and authorize on target?

Knowing Adobe, this will be 1) a huge pain in the ass 2) will fuck up no
matter what you do 3) will involve hours on the phone with Adobe.

You're ONLY hope for it working is to do a full migration assistant
install, but I have no confidence Adobe will have gone to great lengths
to ensure that doesn't work.

-- 
I CAN BE ROBBED BUT NEVER DENIED, I TOLD MYSELF. WHY WORRY?  'I too
cannot be cheated,' snapped Fate.  SO I HAVE HEARD.

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#49035

On 2013-09-26 06:53:09 -0700, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said:

> In message <PdCdnf7sI9icsdnPnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@giganews.com>
>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> 
>> New iMac should be here tomorrow.  Probably won't have time to do much
>> with it until next week.
> 
>> My plan is to migrate-assist only apps and transfer user data in the BG
>> when up and running.
> 
> That is not a good idea. If you don't want to copy all the user
> settings, then I would setup the new machine without any migration
> assistant use, copy the apps from the old machine, and start over.
> 
>> - What happens to licensed s/w such as Photoshop?  Do I have to
>> de-authorize on the source and authorize on target?
> 
> Knowing Adobe, this will be 1) a huge pain in the ass 2) will fuck up no
> matter what you do 3) will involve hours on the phone with Adobe.
> 
> You're ONLY hope for it working is to do a full migration assistant
> install, but I have no confidence Adobe will have gone to great lengths
> to ensure that doesn't work.

Adobe Photoshop migration is simple. First, their license permits 
installation on two machines, even with the new CC, usually a desktop & 
a laptop, but there is nothing stopping installation on two desktops or 
two laptops.

If I remember correctly Alan already has CS5 or CS6 installed on an 
iMac and a MBA. So, the procedure on the iMac being upgraded is to open 
Photoshop and go to "Help"-> "Deactivate" and follow the dialog.
Only then install CS(x) on the new iMac.

If, as in my case, you have a Photoshop upgrade trail, and have more 
than one version of Photoshop installed on the old machine, there is 
nothing stopping you from deactivating the latest version on the old 
machine and continuing to use the earlier PS version on an older 
machine. On this iMac I have both PS CS5 (an upgrade from CS3) & PS 
CS6. When the time comes to get a new iMac, and if I keep this one, and 
I haven't moved to the CC program, PS CS5 will remain.

With my various iMacs, a "white" iBook, a G4 PowerBookPro, and an MBP. 
I have some level of Photoshop, from CS2 to CS6 running on 5 Apple 
computers of various vintage.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#49045

On 2013.09.26 11:23 , Savageduck wrote:

> Adobe Photoshop migration is simple. First, their license permits
> installation on two machines, even with the new CC, usually a desktop &
> a laptop, but there is nothing stopping installation on two desktops or
> two laptops.
>
> If I remember correctly Alan already has CS5 or CS6 installed on an iMac
> and a MBA.

That's creepy you know.  Maybe you shoulda been a cop or sumpin'. |-/

(CS5.  For your file).

> Photoshop and go to "Help"-> "Deactivate" and follow the dialog.
> Only then install CS(x) on the new iMac.

My question was not clear enough.  I meant more along the lines of "does 
Migration (or Setup) assistant transfer the license?"  In the end 
probably best to follow the Adobe way...

>
> If, as in my case, you have a Photoshop upgrade trail, and have more
> than one version of Photoshop installed on the old machine, there is

I used to keep an old PS 5 available on the old PC (motherboard died) 
and under virtual Win on the Mac, but never used it so dumped it a 
couple years ago.  (Gave the disk to someone long before that).


-- 
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
                                                  -Unknown

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#49049

In article <rZednasT59bKAtnPnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> My question was not clear enough.  I meant more along the lines of "does 
> Migration (or Setup) assistant transfer the license?"  In the end 
> probably best to follow the Adobe way...

no, because there's nothing to transfer. it uses a hash of your
hardware to determine what machine it's licensed to.

you should also deauthorize/reauthorize itunes too.

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#49055

On 2013.09.26 17:08 , nospam wrote:
> In article <rZednasT59bKAtnPnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> My question was not clear enough.  I meant more along the lines of "does
>> Migration (or Setup) assistant transfer the license?"  In the end
>> probably best to follow the Adobe way...
>
> no, because there's nothing to transfer. it uses a hash of your
> hardware to determine what machine it's licensed to.
>
> you should also deauthorize/reauthorize itunes too.

Yep.  On the checklist.


-- 
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
                                                  -Unknown

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#49057

In article <2013092608232677923-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> On 2013-09-26 06:53:09 -0700, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said:
> 
> > In message <PdCdnf7sI9icsdnPnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@giganews.com>
> >   Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> > 
> >> New iMac should be here tomorrow.  Probably won't have time to do much
> >> with it until next week.
> > 
> >> My plan is to migrate-assist only apps and transfer user data in the BG
> >> when up and running.
> > 
> > That is not a good idea. If you don't want to copy all the user
> > settings, then I would setup the new machine without any migration
> > assistant use, copy the apps from the old machine, and start over.
> > 
> >> - What happens to licensed s/w such as Photoshop?  Do I have to
> >> de-authorize on the source and authorize on target?
> > 
> > Knowing Adobe, this will be 1) a huge pain in the ass 2) will fuck up no
> > matter what you do 3) will involve hours on the phone with Adobe.
> > 
> > You're ONLY hope for it working is to do a full migration assistant
> > install, but I have no confidence Adobe will have gone to great lengths
> > to ensure that doesn't work.
> 
> Adobe Photoshop migration is simple. First, their license permits 
> installation on two machines, even with the new CC, usually a desktop & 
> a laptop, but there is nothing stopping installation on two desktops or 
> two laptops.

Tehcnically true, but if you not going to still be using the old
computer, then it's best to deactivate it (especially if you're not
going to keep it of course). If the new computer breaks down, then you
may get given a different machine and then you're stuck with no more
activations. If the old computer breaks, then you won't be able to
deactivate it later. Then you've got to try and convince the Adobe Help
Desk that you're not simply trying to pirate it.

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#49061

On 2013.09.26 17:32 , Your Name wrote:

> Tehcnically true, but if you not going to still be using the old
> computer, then it's best to deactivate it (especially if you're not
> going to keep it of course). If the new computer breaks down, then you
> may get given a different machine and then you're stuck with no more
> activations. If the old computer breaks, then you won't be able to
> deactivate it later. Then you've got to try and convince the Adobe Help
> Desk that you're not simply trying to pirate it.

I have CS3 installed on a laptop as well - so I'll be de-authorizing 
here and re-auth on the new.

For license issues, Adobe want sworn signed affidavits.  At least that 
was the case when I transferred my CS3 license from the Windows machine 
to the Mac in early 2008.  (Had to, get this, "fax" it to them).

Hmm - I could re-install CS3 on the old machine but I suspect that would 
be an unlicensed copy as it was the base for which CS5 was installed.

-- 
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
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#49072

On 2013-09-26 14:55:06 -0700, Alan Browne 
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> said:

> On 2013.09.26 17:32 , Your Name wrote:
> 
>> Tehcnically true, but if you not going to still be using the old
>> computer, then it's best to deactivate it (especially if you're not
>> going to keep it of course). If the new computer breaks down, then you
>> may get given a different machine and then you're stuck with no more
>> activations. If the old computer breaks, then you won't be able to
>> deactivate it later. Then you've got to try and convince the Adobe Help
>> Desk that you're not simply trying to pirate it.
> 
> I have CS3 installed on a laptop as well - so I'll be de-authorizing 
> here and re-auth on the new.
> 
> For license issues, Adobe want sworn signed affidavits.  At least that 
> was the case when I transferred my CS3 license from the Windows machine 
> to the Mac in early 2008.  (Had to, get this, "fax" it to them).

That is the case when switching operating systems.

> Hmm - I could re-install CS3 on the old machine but I suspect that 
> would be an unlicensed copy as it was the base for which CS5 was 
> installed.

From what you are saying your CS5 was an upgrade from CS3.
Per the license you have to retain the prior version or have the serial 
number available if installing an upgrade on a fresh machine. When I 
upgraded from CS3 to CS5 on this iMac when it was new, I had no version 
of PS installed. That meant as part of the upgrade install process I 
was required to enter the CS3 serial number. When I upgraded to CS6 I 
did not have to do this as the prior version was installed.

I currently have CS2 on a "Goose-Neck" iMac & a "White" iBook, CS3 on a 
G4 PowerBookPro, CS5 + CS6 on my MBP & this iMac.



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Regards,

Savageduck

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#49077

On 2013.09.26 19:08 , Savageduck wrote:
> On 2013-09-26 14:55:06 -0700, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> said:
>
>> On 2013.09.26 17:32 , Your Name wrote:
>>
>>> Tehcnically true, but if you not going to still be using the old
>>> computer, then it's best to deactivate it (especially if you're not
>>> going to keep it of course). If the new computer breaks down, then you
>>> may get given a different machine and then you're stuck with no more
>>> activations. If the old computer breaks, then you won't be able to
>>> deactivate it later. Then you've got to try and convince the Adobe Help
>>> Desk that you're not simply trying to pirate it.
>>
>> I have CS3 installed on a laptop as well - so I'll be de-authorizing
>> here and re-auth on the new.
>>
>> For license issues, Adobe want sworn signed affidavits.  At least that
>> was the case when I transferred my CS3 license from the Windows
>> machine to the Mac in early 2008.  (Had to, get this, "fax" it to them).
>
> That is the case when switching operating systems.

Was just in reply to YN's bit about Adobe piracy paranoia.

>
>> Hmm - I could re-install CS3 on the old machine but I suspect that
>> would be an unlicensed copy as it was the base for which CS5 was
>> installed.
>
>  From what you are saying your CS5 was an upgrade from CS3.
> Per the license you have to retain the prior version or have the serial
> number available if installing an upgrade on a fresh machine. When I
> upgraded from CS3 to CS5 on this iMac when it was new, I had no version
> of PS installed. That meant as part of the upgrade install process I was
> required to enter the CS3 serial number. When I upgraded to CS6 I did
> not have to do this as the prior version was installed.

I keep all the old license keys so shouldn't be too much of an issue.  I 
suspect I may abandon Photoshop in the next 5 years in any case since I 
an vehemently opposed to renting s/w by the month that only performs for 
5 - 10 hours per month.


-- 
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
                                                  -Unknown

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#49068

On 2013-09-26 14:32:02 -0700, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> said:

> In article <2013092608232677923-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2013-09-26 06:53:09 -0700, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said:
>> 
>>> In message <PdCdnf7sI9icsdnPnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> New iMac should be here tomorrow.  Probably won't have time to do much
>>>> with it until next week.
>>> 
>>>> My plan is to migrate-assist only apps and transfer user data in the BG
>>>> when up and running.
>>> 
>>> That is not a good idea. If you don't want to copy all the user
>>> settings, then I would setup the new machine without any migration
>>> assistant use, copy the apps from the old machine, and start over.
>>> 
>>>> - What happens to licensed s/w such as Photoshop?  Do I have to
>>>> de-authorize on the source and authorize on target?
>>> 
>>> Knowing Adobe, this will be 1) a huge pain in the ass 2) will fuck up no
>>> matter what you do 3) will involve hours on the phone with Adobe.
>>> 
>>> You're ONLY hope for it working is to do a full migration assistant
>>> install, but I have no confidence Adobe will have gone to great lengths
>>> to ensure that doesn't work.
>> 
>> Adobe Photoshop migration is simple. First, their license permits
>> installation on two machines, even with the new CC, usually a desktop &
>> a laptop, but there is nothing stopping installation on two desktops or
>> two laptops.
> 
> Tehcnically true, but if you not going to still be using the old
> computer, then it's best to deactivate it (especially if you're not
> going to keep it of course).

Correct.

> If the new computer breaks down, then you
> may get given a different machine and then you're stuck with no more
> activations. If the old computer breaks, then you won't be able to
> deactivate it later. Then you've got to try and convince the Adobe Help
> Desk that you're not simply trying to pirate it.

All of my copies of Adobe software are registered, and are on record 
behind my Adobe user log in and password. On the one occasion, way back 
with CS2 & a PPC Mac, I needed just that assistance after a serious HD 
crash, Adobe customer service had me up and running in a few minutes. 
Not one question concerning piracy as my credentials were/are good.



-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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