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Creating a tar file - with gnu-tar

Started byJustin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu>
First post2012-08-20 00:38 -0400
Last post2012-08-23 02:03 +0200
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  Creating a tar file - with gnu-tar Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2012-08-20 00:38 -0400
    Re: Creating a tar file - with gnu-tar Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-08-20 00:51 -0400
      Re: Creating a tar file - with gnu-tar Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2012-08-20 11:47 +0200
      Re: Creating a tar file - with gnu-tar Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2012-08-27 21:48 -0400
    Re: Creating a tar file - with gnu-tar Salvatore <sal@yojimbo.hack.invalid> - 2012-08-20 13:16 +0000
      Re: Creating a tar file - with gnu-tar Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2012-08-22 11:58 +0200
        Re: Creating a tar file - with gnu-tar Salvatore <sal@yojimbo.hack.invalid> - 2012-08-22 13:07 +0000
          Re: Creating a tar file - with gnu-tar Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2012-08-23 02:03 +0200

#29748 — Creating a tar file - with gnu-tar

FromJustin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu>
Date2012-08-20 00:38 -0400
SubjectCreating a tar file - with gnu-tar
Message-ID<k0sevv$uld$1@dont-email.me>
When I create a tar file using the standard 'ol "tar -cvf" command; does 
it include those wild and crazy Mac files such as .DS_store?

Using version 2.8.3 installed via Macports.

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#29749

FromBarry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Date2012-08-20 00:51 -0400
Message-ID<barmar-A845BF.00510020082012@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#29748
In article <k0sevv$uld$1@dont-email.me>,
 Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:

> When I create a tar file using the standard 'ol "tar -cvf" command; does 
> it include those wild and crazy Mac files such as .DS_store?
> 
> Using version 2.8.3 installed via Macports.

Why don't you create one and see?  Use "tar -t" to see what's in the tar 
file.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#29756

FromPaul Sture <nospam@sture.ch>
Date2012-08-20 11:47 +0200
Message-ID<0nd9g9-t5j.ln1@news1.chingola.ch>
In reply to#29749
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 00:51:00 -0400, Barry Margolin wrote:

> In article <k0sevv$uld$1@dont-email.me>,
>  Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:
> 
>> When I create a tar file using the standard 'ol "tar -cvf" command;
>> does it include those wild and crazy Mac files such as .DS_store?
>> 
>> Using version 2.8.3 installed via Macports.
> 
> Why don't you create one and see?  Use "tar -t" to see what's in the tar
> file.

Agreed.  There is no substitute for experimentation here to get 
comfortable with tar.

If you backup using something like this:

cd source-dir
tar -cvf source.tar *

then tar will ignore any hidden files starting with a period.  However it 
will still pick up hidden files in subdirectories.

if instead of the above you didn't do a cd:

tar -cvf source.tar source-dir

then tar will pick up the hidden files (.DS_store included) in that 
directory.

You probably want to experiment with tar's --exclude= parameter.

-- 
Paul Sture

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#30179

FromJustin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu>
Date2012-08-27 21:48 -0400
Message-ID<k1h825$n0s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#29749
On 8/20/12 12:51 AM, Barry Margolin wrote:
> In article <k0sevv$uld$1@dont-email.me>,
>   Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:
>
>> When I create a tar file using the standard 'ol "tar -cvf" command; does
>> it include those wild and crazy Mac files such as .DS_store?
>>
>> Using version 2.8.3 installed via Macports.
>
> Why don't you create one and see?  Use "tar -t" to see what's in the tar
> file.
>

My usenet access is back, gotcha.  I'll do that.

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#29759

FromSalvatore <sal@yojimbo.hack.invalid>
Date2012-08-20 13:16 +0000
Message-ID<k0tdbg$21fk$1@yojimbo.hack>
In reply to#29748
On 2012-08-20, Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:
> When I create a tar file using the standard 'ol "tar -cvf" command; does 
> it include those wild and crazy Mac files such as .DS_store?
>
> Using version 2.8.3 installed via Macports.

If you don't care much about the way icons are arranged, just remove the
extraneous files and folders:

find . \( -type f -iname '.DS_*' \) -or \( -type d -iname \
	'.AppleDouble' \) -exec rm -rfv \{\} \;

I do this because the files are included in ZIP files, and I really
don't like having to explain to people using Windows that they should
ignore the .DS_Store files and .AppleDouble folders.

-- 
Blah blah bleh...

GCS/CM d(-)@>-- s+:- !a C++$ UBL++++$ L+$ W+++$ w M++ Y++ b++

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#29905

FromPaul Sture <nospam@sture.ch>
Date2012-08-22 11:58 +0200
Message-ID<m2neg9-s0o1.ln1@news1.chingola.ch>
In reply to#29759
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:16:32 +0000, Salvatore wrote:

> On 2012-08-20, Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:
>> When I create a tar file using the standard 'ol "tar -cvf" command;
>> does it include those wild and crazy Mac files such as .DS_store?
>>
>> Using version 2.8.3 installed via Macports.
> 
> If you don't care much about the way icons are arranged, just remove the
> extraneous files and folders:
> 
> find . \( -type f -iname '.DS_*' \) -or \( -type d -iname \
> 	'.AppleDouble' \) -exec rm -rfv \{\} \;
> 
> I do this because the files are included in ZIP files, and I really
> don't like having to explain to people using Windows that they should
> ignore the .DS_Store files and .AppleDouble folders.

I have just looked on a 10.5.8 system and don't see any .AppleDouble 
folders.

Where do these come from?

-- 
Paul Sture

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#29906

FromSalvatore <sal@yojimbo.hack.invalid>
Date2012-08-22 13:07 +0000
Message-ID<k12lip$20fa$3@yojimbo.hack>
In reply to#29905
On 2012-08-22, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> I have just looked on a 10.5.8 system and don't see any .AppleDouble 
> folders.
>
> Where do these come from?

I find them on external drives that aren't HFS+ formatted and on network
attached storage.

-- 
Blah blah bleh...

GCS/CM d(-)@>-- s+:- !a C++$ UBL++++$ L+$ W+++$ w M++ Y++ b++

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#29930

FromPaul Sture <nospam@sture.ch>
Date2012-08-23 02:03 +0200
Message-ID<si8gg9-bsv.ln1@news1.chingola.ch>
In reply to#29906
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:07:37 +0000, Salvatore wrote:

> On 2012-08-22, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
>> I have just looked on a 10.5.8 system and don't see any .AppleDouble
>> folders.
>>
>> Where do these come from?
> 
> I find them on external drives that aren't HFS+ formatted and on network
> attached storage.

Thanks.  I'll keep an eye out for them there.

-- 
Paul Sture

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