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What's The World Coming To?

Started byFred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
First post2012-08-15 12:48 -0400
Last post2012-08-18 00:16 -0400
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  What's The World Coming To? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-08-15 12:48 -0400
    Re: What's The World Coming To? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-08-15 17:49 +0100
      Re: What's The World Coming To? Don Bruder <fake@spamdump.invalid> - 2012-08-15 11:20 -0700
        Re: What's The World Coming To? Salvatore <sal@yojimbo.hack.invalid> - 2012-08-15 18:38 +0000
          Re: What's The World Coming To? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-08-15 14:47 -0400
            Re: What's The World Coming To? Don Bruder <fake@spamdump.invalid> - 2012-08-15 14:12 -0700
        Re: What's The World Coming To? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-15 22:47 -0400
          Re: What's The World Coming To? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-15 23:54 -0400
            Re: What's The World Coming To? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-16 00:13 -0400
              Re: What's The World Coming To? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-16 04:29 +0000
            Re: What's The World Coming To? Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2012-08-16 06:49 +0200
              Re: What's The World Coming To? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-16 13:08 +0000
            Re: What's The World Coming To? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2012-08-16 17:55 +0000
              Re: What's The World Coming To? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-08-16 15:29 -0400
                Re: What's The World Coming To? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-16 13:52 -0700
                  Re: What's The World Coming To? gerencia@gruposemtel.com - 2012-08-16 14:36 -0700
                  Re: What's The World Coming To? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2012-08-16 22:02 +0000
                Re: What's The World Coming To? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-17 05:02 +0000
              Re: What's The World Coming To? *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-18 00:34 -0400
                Re: What's The World Coming To? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2012-08-19 14:23 +0000
                Re: What's The World Coming To? Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2012-08-19 09:37 -0500
                  Re: What's The World Coming To? Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-19 10:47 -0400
      Re: What's The World Coming To? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-15 20:43 +0000
        Re: What's The World Coming To? *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-15 21:25 -0400
          Re: What's The World Coming To? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-16 03:32 +0000
      Re: What's The World Coming To? *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-15 21:24 -0400
    Re: What's The World Coming To? Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2012-08-17 01:26 -0400
      Re: What's The World Coming To? *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-18 00:16 -0400

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#29505 — What's The World Coming To?

FromFred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
Date2012-08-15 12:48 -0400
SubjectWhat's The World Coming To?
Message-ID<fmoore-3102FA.12484215082012@news.eternal-september.org>
New Facebook app Facedeals scans your face to offer you deals
<http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/08/14/new-facebook-app-facedeals-sc
ans-your-face-to-offer-you-deals/>

Facedeals works like this: a camera is installed in a business, let's 
say a shop. The Facedeals camera scans your face when you enter the 
shop, checks you in on Facebook and sends your phone a text message 
offering you a discount or deal tailored to you, based on your Facebook 
'like' history.

You'll need to install and authorise the app on Facebook first and let 
it map your face by scanning through your most recently tagged photos, 
but anything for a discount, right?

As more pictures are approved, the app 'learns' what you look like. The 
data is then used to identify you every time you enter somewhere with 
the Facedeals camera installed.

-- 
Twitter's for Twits
Facebook's for Fools

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#29506

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2012-08-15 17:49 +0100
Message-ID<timstreater-AFC25C.17494715082012@news.individual.net>
In reply to#29505
In article <fmoore-3102FA.12484215082012@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

> New Facebook app Facedeals scans your face to offer you deals
> <http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/08/14/new-facebook-app-facedeals-sc
> ans-your-face-to-offer-you-deals/>
> 
> Facedeals works like this: a camera is installed in a business, let's 
> say a shop. The Facedeals camera scans your face when you enter the 
> shop, checks you in on Facebook and sends your phone a text message 
> offering you a discount or deal tailored to you, based on your Facebook 
> 'like' history.
> 
> You'll need to install and authorise the app on Facebook first and let 
> it map your face by scanning through your most recently tagged photos, 
> but anything for a discount, right?
> 
> As more pictures are approved, the app 'learns' what you look like. The 
> data is then used to identify you every time you enter somewhere with 
> the Facedeals camera installed.

What is "Facebook" ?

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#29510

FromDon Bruder <fake@spamdump.invalid>
Date2012-08-15 11:20 -0700
Message-ID<k0gp9o$csv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#29506
In article <timstreater-AFC25C.17494715082012@news.individual.net>,
 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> In article <fmoore-3102FA.12484215082012@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> 
> > New Facebook app Facedeals scans your face to offer you deals
> > <http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/08/14/new-facebook-app-facedeals-sc
> > ans-your-face-to-offer-you-deals/>
> > 
> > Facedeals works like this: a camera is installed in a business, let's 
> > say a shop. The Facedeals camera scans your face when you enter the 
> > shop, checks you in on Facebook and sends your phone a text message 
> > offering you a discount or deal tailored to you, based on your Facebook 
> > 'like' history.
> > 
> > You'll need to install and authorise the app on Facebook first and let 
> > it map your face by scanning through your most recently tagged photos, 
> > but anything for a discount, right?
> > 
> > As more pictures are approved, the app 'learns' what you look like. The 
> > data is then used to identify you every time you enter somewhere with 
> > the Facedeals camera installed.
> 
> What is "Facebook" ?

Trust me, you *DON'T* want to know. :) 

Contrary to what the boob who runs it claims, there are still those of 
us who value that "outdated" thing called "privacy". If I want every 
Tom, Dick, Harry, and their dog, cat, and gerbil to know what I'm doing, 
where I am, what I like, etc, etc, etc, I'll give 'em a call and invite 
them to come watch. Until then, they can keep their noses in their own 
business.

And if that isn't clear enough, I absolutely refuse to have anything 
whatsoever to do with Facebook -  I won't sign up, I won't "like", I 
won't update, I won't even let my computer speak to it, show me anything 
that comes from it, or run scripts it supplies - 
anything-and-everything-I-hear-about.facebook.com gets a hosts file 
entry that points to 127.0.0.1 as soon as convenient once I become aware 
of the linkage. An action that any reasonably intelligent person would 
also perform. (Which doesn't say much for the smarts of the 
way-too-damned-many people who think it's anything more than a way to 
scrape up as much information about you as possible to use in bombarding 
you with more and more ads designed to entice you into paying for 
overpriced crap you don't give a damn about and have no need for.)

-- 
If the door is baroque don't be Hayden. Come around Bach and jiggle the Handel

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#29511

FromSalvatore <sal@yojimbo.hack.invalid>
Date2012-08-15 18:38 +0000
Message-ID<k0gqbd$so2$1@yojimbo.hack>
In reply to#29510
On 2012-08-15, Don Bruder <fake@spamdump.invalid> wrote:
> Trust me, you *DON'T* want to know. :) 
>
> Contrary to what the boob who runs it claims, there are still those of 
> us who value that "outdated" thing called "privacy". If I want every 
> Tom, Dick, Harry, and their dog, cat, and gerbil to know what I'm doing, 
> where I am, what I like, etc, etc, etc, I'll give 'em a call and invite 
> them to come watch. Until then, they can keep their noses in their own 
> business.
>
> And if that isn't clear enough, I absolutely refuse to have anything 
> whatsoever to do with Facebook -  I won't sign up, I won't "like", I 
> won't update, I won't even let my computer speak to it, show me anything 
> that comes from it, or run scripts it supplies - 
> anything-and-everything-I-hear-about.facebook.com gets a hosts file 
> entry that points to 127.0.0.1 as soon as convenient once I become aware 
> of the linkage. An action that any reasonably intelligent person would 
> also perform. (Which doesn't say much for the smarts of the 
> way-too-damned-many people who think it's anything more than a way to 
> scrape up as much information about you as possible to use in bombarding 
> you with more and more ads designed to entice you into paying for 
> overpriced crap you don't give a damn about and have no need for.)
>

...or you could just not have a Facebook account.

-- 
Blah blah bleh...

GCS/CM d(-)@>-- s+:- !a C++$ UBL++++$ L+$ W+++$ w M++ Y++ b++

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#29512

FromBarry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Date2012-08-15 14:47 -0400
Message-ID<barmar-580E84.14471615082012@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#29511
In article <k0gqbd$so2$1@yojimbo.hack>,
 Salvatore <sal@yojimbo.hack.invalid> wrote:

> On 2012-08-15, Don Bruder <fake@spamdump.invalid> wrote:
> > Trust me, you *DON'T* want to know. :) 
> >
> > Contrary to what the boob who runs it claims, there are still those of 
> > us who value that "outdated" thing called "privacy". If I want every 
> > Tom, Dick, Harry, and their dog, cat, and gerbil to know what I'm doing, 
> > where I am, what I like, etc, etc, etc, I'll give 'em a call and invite 
> > them to come watch. Until then, they can keep their noses in their own 
> > business.
> >
> > And if that isn't clear enough, I absolutely refuse to have anything 
> > whatsoever to do with Facebook -  I won't sign up, I won't "like", I 
> > won't update, I won't even let my computer speak to it, show me anything 
> > that comes from it, or run scripts it supplies - 
> > anything-and-everything-I-hear-about.facebook.com gets a hosts file 
> > entry that points to 127.0.0.1 as soon as convenient once I become aware 
> > of the linkage. An action that any reasonably intelligent person would 
> > also perform. (Which doesn't say much for the smarts of the 
> > way-too-damned-many people who think it's anything more than a way to 
> > scrape up as much information about you as possible to use in bombarding 
> > you with more and more ads designed to entice you into paying for 
> > overpriced crap you don't give a damn about and have no need for.)
> >
> 
> ...or you could just not have a Facebook account.

What part of "I absolutely refuse to have anything whatsoever to do with 
Facebook" suggests that he has a Facebook account?

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#29521

FromDon Bruder <fake@spamdump.invalid>
Date2012-08-15 14:12 -0700
Message-ID<k0h3b3$8b4$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#29512
In article <barmar-580E84.14471615082012@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> In article <k0gqbd$so2$1@yojimbo.hack>,
>  Salvatore <sal@yojimbo.hack.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > On 2012-08-15, Don Bruder <fake@spamdump.invalid> wrote:
> > > Trust me, you *DON'T* want to know. :) 
> > >
> > > Contrary to what the boob who runs it claims, there are still those of 
> > > us who value that "outdated" thing called "privacy". If I want every 
> > > Tom, Dick, Harry, and their dog, cat, and gerbil to know what I'm doing, 
> > > where I am, what I like, etc, etc, etc, I'll give 'em a call and invite 
> > > them to come watch. Until then, they can keep their noses in their own 
> > > business.
> > >
> > > And if that isn't clear enough, I absolutely refuse to have anything 
> > > whatsoever to do with Facebook -  I won't sign up, I won't "like", I 
> > > won't update, I won't even let my computer speak to it, show me anything 
> > > that comes from it, or run scripts it supplies - 
> > > anything-and-everything-I-hear-about.facebook.com gets a hosts file 
> > > entry that points to 127.0.0.1 as soon as convenient once I become aware 
> > > of the linkage. An action that any reasonably intelligent person would 
> > > also perform. (Which doesn't say much for the smarts of the 
> > > way-too-damned-many people who think it's anything more than a way to 
> > > scrape up as much information about you as possible to use in bombarding 
> > > you with more and more ads designed to entice you into paying for 
> > > overpriced crap you don't give a damn about and have no need for.)
> > >
> > 
> > ...or you could just not have a Facebook account.
> 
> What part of "I absolutely refuse to have anything whatsoever to do with 
> Facebook" suggests that he has a Facebook account?

Give that man a cigar! :)

-- 
If the door is baroque don't be Hayden. Come around Bach and jiggle the Handel

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#29536

FromWes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org>
Date2012-08-15 22:47 -0400
Message-ID<k0hn0e$3o7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#29510
On 08-15-2012 14:20, Don Bruder wrote:
> anything-and-everything-I-hear-about.facebook.com gets a hosts file
> entry that points to 127.0.0.1 as soon as convenient once I become aware
> of the linkage. An action that any reasonably intelligent person would
> also perform. (Which doesn't say much for the smarts of the
> way-too-damned-many people who think it's anything more than a way to
> scrape up as much information about you as possible to use in bombarding
> you with more and more ads designed to entice you into paying for

I resisted it for a long time.  Gave in when a certain relative got 
himself into a jam with FB the only way to communicate with him.

I've stayed on, for the sake of contact with other relatives that act as 
if no other communications medium exists.  But it's true that constant 
vigilance is necessary to keep it's fingers out of my hip pocket.

-- 
Wes Groleau

Expert, n.:
         Someone who comes from out of town and shows slides.

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#29550

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2012-08-15 23:54 -0400
Message-ID<150820122354210644%star@sky.net>
In reply to#29536
Wes Groleau on Facebook:
> I resisted it for a long time.  Gave in when a certain relative got 
> himself into a jam with FB the only way to communicate with him.
> 
> I've stayed on, for the sake of contact with other relatives that act as 
> if no other communications medium exists.  But it's true that constant 
> vigilance is necessary to keep it's fingers out of my hip pocket.

They let guys in solitary use FB?

Ditto-pretty much. I'm on FB because geographically distant relatives
are there, as are friends who are scattered about several different
continents. It's a great way to stay in touch without tying oneself to
a schedule such as "Let's Skype at 2100 UT."

The thing to remember about FB, Google, and other "social" sites is
that the services they provide are, in a sense, a sideline--the tools
they use to achieve their business goal, which is to collect as much
personal information about you as they possibly can and sell it to
anyone who will buy it. The key is to tell them as little as possible.
IIRC the only thing you have to tell FB is your name and e-mail
address. Even then I suppose one could lie about their name and use a
temporary e-mail address, though I don't know how one would benefit
from that. I'm not terribly concerned that they have my e-mail
address--it's at the bottom of this message as well.

Facebook has lots of ruses to get you to surrender more information
about yourself. Games, surveys, polls, and I can't remember what all.
*If* you don't want them to have more information about you, always say
no, regardless of how innocuous the request looks, and be assured that
your quality of life will not suffer by your missing out on the offered
"feature." If you click "Yes" you will usually be directed to another
page that will be pretty straightforward about the information to be
collected. "In order to participate you must submit your address, phone
number, SSN, bank account number and PIN, and automobile title to an
entity in the tribal areas of Pakistan. Click here to continue." Or
words to that effect.

Google of late has been urging me to give them my mobile phone number.
Really? When I say no, I get taken to another page that asks me if I'm
sure I don't want to give it to them because it's really, really
important for Google to have it. Really really? Google, on a scale of 1
to 144, where do you think my IQ falls?

Bottom line--these vultures are definitely clever, but you can outfox
them with a strict never-click, never-say-yes policy. That doesn't
apply to the "Like" button on content that comes *directly* from people
you know--but beware of Facebook using well-meaning friends of yours
who have themselves been suckered into something as bait to sucker you
in as well. Example: your brother Jehoshaphat posts a picture of his
toddler and writes "Little Ebenezer took his first step today." It's OK
to click "Like" or to comment because that came directly from
Jehoshaphat. But: "Your brother Jehoshaphat likes the Syrian Secret
Police. Click here to like." Bzzzzzt! That came from FB. Your genius
brother apparently did get suckered into telling his life story to the
Syrian Secret Police, but don't you click and get suckered in as well,
because you're not talking to Jehoshaphat in this instance, you're
talking to FB's info-harvesting software.

Notice: Even though I have posted a valid e-mail address below, please
do *not* use it to send me your personal information. I really, really,
*do* *not* need your mobile phone number or your credit card info.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#29554

FromWes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org>
Date2012-08-16 00:13 -0400
Message-ID<k0hs1s$p2h$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#29550
On 08-15-2012 23:54, Davoud wrote:
> Bottom line--these vultures are definitely clever, but you can outfox
> them with a strict never-click, never-say-yes policy. That doesn't
> apply to the "Like" button on content that comes*directly*  from people
> you know--but beware of Facebook using well-meaning friends of yours
> who have themselves been suckered into something as bait to sucker you

FB now has a "feature" that does not offer you any fine print to back 
out of.  If you "Like" something, it's originator can without further 
consulting you, post a different advert every day under the heading
"<your name> likes <who/what>"

So now one of my relatives appears to be "liking" Samsung daily.

Another is daily "liking" some political outfit.

I can block games, but I can't block these without blocking the victim.

-- 
Wes Groleau

    Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire!
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/rulings/pants-fire/

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#29557

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2012-08-16 04:29 +0000
Message-ID<slrnk2otpk.2j99.g.kreme@mbp55.local>
In reply to#29554
In message <k0hs1s$p2h$1@dont-email.me> 
  Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> On 08-15-2012 23:54, Davoud wrote:
>> Bottom line--these vultures are definitely clever, but you can outfox
>> them with a strict never-click, never-say-yes policy. That doesn't
>> apply to the "Like" button on content that comes*directly*  from people
>> you know--but beware of Facebook using well-meaning friends of yours
>> who have themselves been suckered into something as bait to sucker you

> FB now has a "feature" that does not offer you any fine print to back 
> out of.  If you "Like" something, it's originator can without further 
> consulting you, post a different advert every day under the heading
> "<your name> likes <who/what>"

Crap like this is why I only go to facebook every month or three.

-- 
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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#29560

FromPaul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch>
Date2012-08-16 06:49 +0200
Message-ID<eoauf9-ev72.ln1@news1.chingola.ch>
In reply to#29550
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:54:21 -0400, Davoud wrote:

> Google of late has been urging me to give them my mobile phone number.
> Really? When I say no, I get taken to another page that asks me if I'm
> sure I don't want to give it to them because it's really, really
> important for Google to have it. Really really? Google, on a scale of 1
> to 144, where do you think my IQ falls?

I am glad someone else finds this dubious.  When it happened to me it was 
claiming that I had repeatedly typed the wrong password.  I know it takes 
time for muscle memory to kick in when I create a new password, but on 
this occasion I took special care and Google still told me it was wrong.

I really did feel suckered that I gave in and handed them my number, 
therefore had no compunction about deleting that account when they 
offered an easy way to do that as part of their changes in terms and 
conditions. At that time, their slurping of wifi data was still in the 
news.

When I moaned about it online various folks leapt to Google's defence, 
assuring me it wasn't being abused.  I remain unconvinced.

-- 
Paul Sture

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#29572

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2012-08-16 13:08 +0000
Message-ID<slrnk2ps6l.2qd5.g.kreme@mbp55.local>
In reply to#29560
In message <eoauf9-ev72.ln1@news1.chingola.ch> 
  Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:54:21 -0400, Davoud wrote:

>> Google of late has been urging me to give them my mobile phone number.
>> Really? When I say no, I get taken to another page that asks me if I'm
>> sure I don't want to give it to them because it's really, really
>> important for Google to have it. Really really? Google, on a scale of 1
>> to 144, where do you think my IQ falls?

> I am glad someone else finds this dubious.  When it happened to me it was 
> claiming that I had repeatedly typed the wrong password.  I know it takes 
> time for muscle memory to kick in when I create a new password, but on 
> this occasion I took special care and Google still told me it was wrong.

The mobile number is used for account recovery purposes.

> I really did feel suckered that I gave in and handed them my number, 
> therefore had no compunction about deleting that account when they 
> offered an easy way to do that as part of their changes in terms and 
> conditions. At that time, their slurping of wifi data was still in the 
> news.

Yes, the evil google stealing all that *PUBLICLY BROADCAST INFO*! OHNOES!

> When I moaned about it online various folks leapt to Google's defence, 
> assuring me it wasn't being abused.  I remain unconvinced.

People love to panic about stupid shit, and the media loves to have
people panic about stupdi shit.

-- 
Train Station: where the train stops.  Work Station: ...

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#29583

Fromme@home.spamsucks.ca (Király)
Date2012-08-16 17:55 +0000
Message-ID<k0jc67$qr4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#29550
Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
> IIRC the only thing you have to tell FB is your name and e-mail
> address. Even then I suppose one could lie about their name and use a
> temporary e-mail address, though I don't know how one would benefit
> from that.

I used a fake name to register. My name is unique (the only one in the 
world AFAICT) and if I register with my real name I will be inundated 
with pokes, friend requests, people who I met once a decade ago sending 
me their status updates, and other stuff that I don't want. No thanks.

The only reason I have a facebook account at all is for the sole 
purpose of participating (discussing/commenting) on a single page that 
is of interest. Only my wife knows who I am on FB. I have no friends 
list, no wall, no info, no photos, no status, no nothing, and that's the 
way that I like it.

http://www.facebook.com/vancouver.seth

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#29587

FromFred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
Date2012-08-16 15:29 -0400
Message-ID<fmoore-035FB3.15295916082012@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#29583
In article <k0jc67$qr4$1@dont-email.me>, me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) 
wrote:

> Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
> > IIRC the only thing you have to tell FB is your name and e-mail
> > address. Even then I suppose one could lie about their name and use a
> > temporary e-mail address, though I don't know how one would benefit
> > from that.
> 
> I used a fake name to register. My name is unique (the only one in the 
> world AFAICT) and if I register with my real name I will be inundated 
> with pokes, friend requests, people who I met once a decade ago sending 
> me their status updates, and other stuff that I don't want. No thanks.

But you have to give a REAL email address to confirm the membership, so 
they've got you if you register at all.

-- 
It's only paranoia if there's nobody there.
    And there's *always*someone* there.

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#29591

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2012-08-16 13:52 -0700
Message-ID<160820121352116524%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#29587
In article <fmoore-035FB3.15295916082012@news.eternal-september.org>,
Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

> > > IIRC the only thing you have to tell FB is your name and e-mail
> > > address. Even then I suppose one could lie about their name and use a
> > > temporary e-mail address, though I don't know how one would benefit
> > > from that.
> > 
> > I used a fake name to register. My name is unique (the only one in the 
> > world AFAICT) and if I register with my real name I will be inundated 
> > with pokes, friend requests, people who I met once a decade ago sending 
> > me their status updates, and other stuff that I don't want. No thanks.
> 
> But you have to give a REAL email address to confirm the membership, so 
> they've got you if you register at all.

it can be a disposable email address, one that you check once to
confirm signing up and never again.

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#29592

Fromgerencia@gruposemtel.com
Date2012-08-16 14:36 -0700
Message-ID<94d1ca57-a404-4772-a38b-603cccd9441e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#29591
On Thursday, August 16, 2012 2:52:11 PM UTC-6, nospam wrote:
> In article <fmoore-035FB3.15295916082012@news.eternal-september.org>,
> 
> Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > > > IIRC the only thing you have to tell FB is your name and e-mail
> 
> > > > address. Even then I suppose one could lie about their name and use a
> 
> > > > temporary e-mail address, though I don't know how one would benefit
> 
> > > > from that.
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > I used a fake name to register. My name is unique (the only one in the 
> 
> > > world AFAICT) and if I register with my real name I will be inundated 
> 
> > > with pokes, friend requests, people who I met once a decade ago sending 
> 
> > > me their status updates, and other stuff that I don't want. No thanks.
> 
> > 
> 
> > But you have to give a REAL email address to confirm the membership, so 
> 
> > they've got you if you register at all.
> 
> 
> 
> it can be a disposable email address, one that you check once to
> 
> confirm signing up and never again.

I created a disposable e-mail account and got caught by my wife and she thought I was cheating, so no fake e-mail and no fb.

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#29595

Fromme@home.spamsucks.ca (Király)
Date2012-08-16 22:02 +0000
Message-ID<k0jqlh$ne8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#29591
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> it can be a disposable email address, one that you check once to
> confirm signing up and never again.

That's exactly what I did.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#29609

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2012-08-17 05:02 +0000
Message-ID<slrnk2rk32.2tek.g.kreme@mbp55.local>
In reply to#29587
In message <fmoore-035FB3.15295916082012@news.eternal-september.org> 
  Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> In article <k0jc67$qr4$1@dont-email.me>, me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) 
> wrote:

>> Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
>> > IIRC the only thing you have to tell FB is your name and e-mail
>> > address. Even then I suppose one could lie about their name and use a
>> > temporary e-mail address, though I don't know how one would benefit
>> > from that.
>> 
>> I used a fake name to register. My name is unique (the only one in the 
>> world AFAICT) and if I register with my real name I will be inundated 
>> with pokes, friend requests, people who I met once a decade ago sending 
>> me their status updates, and other stuff that I don't want. No thanks.

> But you have to give a REAL email address to confirm the membership, so 
> they've got you if you register at all.

For certain values of 'real'.

-- 
I got a question. If you guys know so much about women, how come you're
here at like the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone
drinking beers with no women anywhere?

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#29653

From*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@hotmail.com>
Date2012-08-18 00:34 -0400
Message-ID<F9KdncY4Ev_7hrLNnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#29583
On 08/16/2012 01:55 PM, Király wrote:
> Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
>> IIRC the only thing you have to tell FB is your name and e-mail
>> address. Even then I suppose one could lie about their name and use a
>> temporary e-mail address, though I don't know how one would benefit
>> from that.
>
> I used a fake name to register. My name is unique (the only one in the
> world AFAICT) and if I register with my real name I will be inundated
> with pokes, friend requests, people who I met once a decade ago sending
> me their status updates, and other stuff that I don't want. No thanks.
>
> The only reason I have a facebook account at all is for the sole
> purpose of participating (discussing/commenting) on a single page that
> is of interest. Only my wife knows who I am on FB. I have no friends
> list, no wall, no info, no photos, no status, no nothing, and that's the
> way that I like it.
>
> http://www.facebook.com/vancouver.seth

Would that qualify as a "fake" account in Zuck's eyes? Not that I care. 
Screw them and their stupid rules. I don't use Facebook, but for those 
who don't abide by their terms of use if it means real names, good for 
you. Fight the power. All Facebook looks like to me is a big marketing 
data and behavioral research platform where people are pushing pleasure 
buttons (aka keeping up with Farmville) til they starve themselves or 
their kids.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57484991-93/facebook-8.7-percent-are-fake-users/

Earlier estimate:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/facebook-5-6-of-accounts-are-fake/10167

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleasure_center

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#29714

Fromme@home.spamsucks.ca (Király)
Date2012-08-19 14:23 +0000
Message-ID<k0qst7$8u3$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#29653
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > http://www.facebook.com/vancouver.seth
> 
> Would that qualify as a "fake" account in Zuck's eyes? Not that I care. 
> Screw them and their stupid rules.

I don't care either. If they delete my account it takes about 30 seconds 
to set up a new one. 

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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