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DNS Cache question

Started byDavid_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
First post2020-07-24 13:30 +0100
Last post2020-07-30 01:31 +0100
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  DNS Cache question David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-24 13:30 +0100
    Re: DNS Cache question Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-24 08:45 -0400
    DNS Cache questions - UNANSWERED David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-28 08:45 +0100
      Re: DNS Cache questions - UNANSWERED Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2020-07-28 10:32 +0200
        Re: DNS Cache questions - UNANSWERED David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-28 10:47 +0100
          Re: DNS Cache questions - UNANSWERED Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2020-07-28 12:35 +0200
          Re: DNS Cache questions - UNANSWERED Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2020-07-28 12:51 +0200
            Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-30 13:01 +0100
      Re: DNS Cache questions - UNANSWERED Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-28 08:40 +0000
        Re: DNS Cache questions - UNANSWERED Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2020-07-28 10:55 +0200
          Re: DNS Cache questions - UNANSWERED Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-28 14:25 -0700
      Re: DNS Cache questions - UNANSWERED JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-28 19:22 -0400
        Re: DNS Cache questions - UNANSWERED Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-28 21:54 -0400
          Re: DNS Cache questions - UNANSWERED nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-28 21:55 -0400
            Re: DNS Cache questions - UNANSWERED Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-28 21:59 -0400
            Re: DNS Cache questions - UNANSWERED David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-29 08:32 +0100
              Re: DNS Cache questions - UNANSWERED Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-29 09:10 -0400
                Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-29 17:26 +0100
                  Re: DNS Cache questions Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-29 09:36 -0700
                    Re: DNS Cache questions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-29 13:12 -0400
                      Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-29 14:43 -0400
                        Re: DNS Cache questions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-29 14:55 -0400
                          Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-29 15:01 -0400
                            Re: DNS Cache questions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-29 15:13 -0400
                          Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-29 20:17 +0100
                      Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-29 20:19 +0100
                  Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-29 14:40 -0400
                    Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-29 20:12 +0100
                      Re: DNS Cache questions Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-29 12:19 -0700
                        Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-29 20:26 +0100
                          Re: DNS Cache questions Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-29 13:51 -0700
                            Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-29 17:18 -0400
                            Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-30 00:24 +0100
                              Re: DNS Cache questions Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-29 18:50 -0700
                                Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-29 21:52 -0400
                                  Re: DNS Cache questions Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-29 18:53 -0700
                      Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-29 15:58 -0400
                        Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-29 23:48 +0100
                          Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-29 21:48 -0400
                            Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-30 12:18 +0100
                              Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-30 12:54 +0100
                                Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-30 10:08 -0400
                              Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-30 10:07 -0400
                                Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-30 15:15 +0100
                                  Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-30 11:15 -0400
                                    Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-30 16:58 +0100
                                      Re: DNS Cache questions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-30 12:07 -0400
                                        Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-30 17:24 +0100
                                        Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-30 13:39 -0400
                                      Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-30 13:39 -0400
                                        Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-30 23:33 +0100
                                          Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-30 18:50 -0400
                                            Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-30 23:56 +0100
                                              Re: DNS Cache questions Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-30 15:59 -0700
                                                Re: DNS Cache questions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-30 19:06 -0400
                                                  Re: DNS Cache questions Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-30 16:55 -0700
                                                    Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-31 10:01 +0100
                                                      Re: DNS Cache questions Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-31 10:00 +0000
                                                        Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-31 12:14 +0100
                                                    Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-31 10:21 +0100
                                                      Re: DNS Cache questions Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-31 10:00 +0000
                                                Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-30 19:07 -0400
                                                  Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-31 10:08 +0100
                                                    Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-31 06:48 -0400
                                              Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-30 19:05 -0400
                                                Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-31 10:24 +0100
                                                  Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-31 06:48 -0400
                                                    Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-08-01 00:08 +0100
                                                      Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-31 21:44 -0400
                                                        Re: DNS Cache questions Panthera Tigris Altaica <northerntiger@outlook.com> - 2020-08-08 06:54 -0400
                                                          Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-08-08 09:57 -0400
                                                          Re: DNS Cache questions David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-08-08 16:28 +0100
                                                            Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-08-08 13:58 -0400
                                                            Re: DNS Cache questions Panthera Tigris Altaica <northerntiger@outlook.com> - 2020-08-09 09:01 -0400
                                                        Re: DNS Cache questions Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-09-27 11:49 -0400
        Re: DNS Cache questions - UNANSWERED David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-30 01:31 +0100

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#133898 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromDavid_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2020-07-30 12:54 +0100
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<yxyUG.57521$wl6.15641@fx10.ams1>
In reply to#133894
On 30/07/2020 12:18, David_B wrote:
> OK - I'll do it now! :-)

*DONE* :-)

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#133902 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromWolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2020-07-30 10:08 -0400
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<0001HW.24D30BCA00CF4F3C70000488F38F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#133898
On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
(in article <yxyUG.57521$wl6.15641@fx10.ams1>):

> On 30/07/2020 12:18, David_B wrote:
> > OK - I'll do it now! :-)
>
> *DONE* :-)

damn, you’re stupid.

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#133901 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromWolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2020-07-30 10:07 -0400
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<0001HW.24D30BB600CF4A8C70000488F38F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#133894
On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
(in article <Q%xUG.103648$WO.70854@fx38.ams1>):

> On 30/07/2020 02:48, Wolffan wrote:
> > On 29 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
> > (in article <31nUG.170803$Rb1.11098@fx35.ams1>):
> >
> > > On 29/07/2020 20:58, Wolffan wrote:
> > > > On 29 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
> > > > (in article <XSjUG.254488$qj7.15799@fx04.ams1>):
> > > >
> > > > > On 29/07/2020 19:40, Wolffan wrote:
> > > > > > On 29 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
> > > > > > (in article <ZqhUG.230916$iXb1.79605@fx03.ams1>):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 29/07/2020 14:10, *Wolffan LIED* again!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 29 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
> > > > > > > > (in article <GC9UG.92399$vLb.36669@fx43.ams1>):
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 29/07/2020 02:55, nospam wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > In article<0001HW.24D10E380057E05770000D3AE38F@news.supernews.com>,
> > > > > > > > > > Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 2020-07-28 03:45, David_B wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there any way to see what is currently in one's DNS cache
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > BEFORE
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > clearing it?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > If you are running a BIND server, there are tools with the control
> > > > > > > > > > > > utility to see the cache. (haven't used it i a while but remember
> > > > > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > > > > it).
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > But the resolver on the client machine it is much harder, not sure
> > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > eists. I beleive on OSX it is the mDNSresponder process.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It also handles Bonjour services so it affects more than just DNS
> > > > > > > > > > > > requests to the Internet.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > All I could find was "dscacheutil" and trying to do a -cachedump
> > > > > > > > > > > > didn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > work Not sure if utility is still supported or if just me.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > the dscacheutil also has an option to dump the cache
> > > > > > > > > > > > dscacheutil -fliushcache
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > man it to get more details. It may work on your system.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > he thinks that x.x.x.x is a valid IP address. He doesn¹t know
> > > > > > > > > > > what a
> > > > > > > > > > > loopback address is. He lacks even the faintest of clues about what
> > > > > > > > > > > dig
> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > and where to find it. And you¹re expecting him to know about BIND,
> > > > > > > > > > > mDNSresponder, and dscachutil? Good luck, there, son. He won¹t
> > > > > > > > > > > even
> > > > > > > > > > > know
> > > > > > > > > > > where to start!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > he's probably looking for malware in the dns cache.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Tell me, nospam, where do YOU look for malware?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Simple: look at URIs posted by David Brooks. He’s known to post URIs
> > > > > > > > pointing to sites infected by fake Flash installers which actually
> > > > > > > > attempt
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > download banking RATs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Complete bollocks, Wolffan!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You've claimed that MANY times yet have *NEVER* shown evidence.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I’ve shown it several times. You just run away when I do.
> > > > >
> > > > > No. You haven't - not that I have seen anyway.
> > > >
> > > > I have. you just lie your ass off, that’s all.
> > >
> > > False
> >
> > nah. truth. you just can’t handle the truth. you never could.
>
> Post the evidence

I’ve done that. Several times. You merely run away and later deny, deny, 
deny.
>
>
> > > - you have posted no such MID.
> >
> > I have. Several times. You always run away. Then you wait a few months and
> > do
> > the same song and dance again.
>
> Post the evidence

see above
>
>
> > Son, think: why do _multiple different people_ all make the _same reports
> > about you?_ We’re all out to get you, eh?
>
> Let's see some examples

Diesel, Shadow, nospam, PTA. There are more, but why bother, you’ll just 
deny, deny, deny, deny...
>
>
> > > *YOU* are the liar, Wolffan - and
> > > everyone can see that *you cannot support your claim*.
> >
> > nah.
>
> Absolutely - right on the nail!
>
> You are TOTALLY DISHONEST

oh, the irony.
>
>
> > > Nor have you demonstrated which AV software you were using actually
> > > CAUGHT this alleged malware!!!
> >
> > Sophos. As I said way, way, way back when this first happened.
>
> Ah! Yes. Then our log should provide EVIDENCE. Post it.
> Show everybody.

done it before. you merely run away and then deny, deny, deny, deny...
>
>
> > > > > > And I’m not the only one to have spotted malware being downloaded from
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > links. In my case, the malware in question was an EXE which was
> > > > > > downloading
> > > > > > on a Mac and so wouldn’t have worked. You later not merely
> > > > > > acknowledged
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > malware, but stated that as the URI had been posted to a Mac newsgroup,
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > was no harm intended,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I repeat: you posted a link which had malware.
> > > > >
> > > > > *WHAT WAS THE MID*?
> > > >
> > > > you merely ignore them and run off.
> > >
> > > Bullshit!
> >
> > fact.
>
> False - You have NEVER posted evidence.

truth. you just deny, deny, deny, deny...
>
>
> > > > > > It certainly appears that you
> > > > > > posted the link in full knowledge that the malware was there, and that
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > thought that it was a big joke.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have *NEVER* deliberately sought to harm folk. Not *EVER*!
> > > >
> > > > Gee. Now who was it who gave me a ‘Formal Warning’? Or are you going
> > > > to
> > > > deny that, too?
> > >
> > > Certainly, in jest, I did just that.
> >
> > And there youbare again with the ‘I was just joking’ defence. You’re
> > not fooling anyone, troll-boy.
>
> I'm in no way *trying* to fool anyone. But *YOU* are!

you’re trying. and failing. you’re under the sadly mistaken impression 
that everyone is as stupid as you are.
>
>
> > > I did, indeed, write to www.supernews.com
> > > As you know, I received an acknowledgement but no follow-up. Maybe I'll
> > > prod them again, sonny Jim!
> >
> > go for it. It’s been over a year. Note that the troll-boy just sabotaged
> > his own ‘I was just joking’ defence. Yes, he’s that stupid.
>
> OK - I'll do it now! :-)

you’re an idiot

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#133903 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromDavid_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2020-07-30 15:15 +0100
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<wCAUG.67604$RU.41593@fx27.ams1>
In reply to#133901
On 30/07/2020 15:07, Wolffan wrote:
> On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
[....]
>>>> I did, indeed, write to www.supernews.com
>>>> As you know, I received an acknowledgement but no follow-up. Maybe I'll
>>>> prod them again, sonny Jim!
>>>
>>> go for it. It’s been over a year. Note that the troll-boy just sabotaged
>>> his own ‘I was just joking’ defence. Yes, he’s that stupid.
>>
>> OK - I'll do it now! :-)
> 
> you’re an idiot

No. I'm not. I emailed just as I promised.

Request received: [Supernews] |
Request - (Ticket #: 4002614) - (Ticket #: 4328943)

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#133906 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromWolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2020-07-30 11:15 -0400
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<0001HW.24D31B8000D2FDFC70000D05F38F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#133903
On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
(in article <wCAUG.67604$RU.41593@fx27.ams1>):

> On 30/07/2020 15:07, Wolffan wrote:
> > On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
> [....]
> > > > > I did, indeed, write to www.supernews.com
> > > > > As you know, I received an acknowledgement but no follow-up. Maybe I'll
> > > > > prod them again, sonny Jim!
> > > >
> > > > go for it. It’s been over a year. Note that the troll-boy just sabotaged
> > > > his own ‘I was just joking’ defence. Yes, he’s that stupid.
> > >
> > > OK - I'll do it now! :-)
> >
> > you’re an idiot
>
> No. I'm not. I emailed just as I promised.
>
> Request received: [Supernews] |
> Request - (Ticket #: 4002614) - (Ticket #: 4328943)

that’sone reason why you’re an idiot.

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#133907 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromDavid_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2020-07-30 16:58 +0100
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<s6CUG.132068$dTb.115297@fx41.ams1>
In reply to#133906
On 30/07/2020 16:15, Wolffan wrote:
> On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
> (in article <wCAUG.67604$RU.41593@fx27.ams1>):
> 
>> On 30/07/2020 15:07, Wolffan wrote:
>>> On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
>> [....]
>>>>>> I did, indeed, write to www.supernews.com
>>>>>> As you know, I received an acknowledgement but no follow-up. Maybe I'll
>>>>>> prod them again, sonny Jim!
>>>>>
>>>>> go for it. It’s been over a year. Note that the troll-boy just sabotaged
>>>>> his own ‘I was just joking’ defence. Yes, he’s that stupid.
>>>>
>>>> OK - I'll do it now! :-)
>>>
>>> you’re an idiot
>>
>> No. I'm not. I emailed just as I promised.
>>
>> Request received: [Supernews] |
>> Request - (Ticket #: 4002614) - (Ticket #: 4328943)
> 
> that’s one reason why you’re an idiot.

It was *YOU* who failed to abide by the Acceptable Use Policy (AUP)

https://www.supernews.com/docs/aup.html

It states clearly:-

Abuse Reports
Reports of abuse can be sent to abuse@supernews.com

"Supernews wishes to offer a flexible service that will meet the needs 
of our customers. We do not wish to regulate or censor our customers in 
any way. We do feel an obligation, however, to encourage appropriate use 
of our service and proper use of the newsgroups, to the mutual benefit 
of everyone that uses them."

Publishing the personal information of fellow Usenet users is NOT 
"appropriate use".

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#133908 — Re: DNS Cache questions

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2020-07-30 12:07 -0400
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<300720201207186280%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#133907
In article <s6CUG.132068$dTb.115297@fx41.ams1>, David_B
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> Publishing the personal information of fellow Usenet users is NOT 
> "appropriate use".

then why do you repeatedly do exactly that?

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#133909 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromDavid_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2020-07-30 17:24 +0100
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<pvCUG.104236$WO.91094@fx38.ams1>
In reply to#133908
On 30/07/2020 17:07, nospam wrote:
> In article <s6CUG.132068$dTb.115297@fx41.ams1>, David_B
> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> 
>> Publishing the personal information of fellow Usenet users is NOT
>> "appropriate use".
> 
> then why do you repeatedly do exactly that?

Show the *EVIDENCE* for your claim.

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#133910 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromWolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2020-07-30 13:39 -0400
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<0001HW.24D33D3800DAE51E70000D05F38F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#133908
On 30 Jul 2020, nospam wrote
(in article<300720201207186280%nospam@nospam.invalid>):

> In article<s6CUG.132068$dTb.115297@fx41.ams1>, David_B
> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>  wrote:
>
> > Publishing the personal information of fellow Usenet users is NOT
> > "appropriate use".
>
> then why do you repeatedly do exactly that?

because he’s a troll and a stalker.

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#133911 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromWolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2020-07-30 13:39 -0400
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<0001HW.24D33D4C00DAE9D470000D05F38F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#133907
On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
(in article <s6CUG.132068$dTb.115297@fx41.ams1>):

> On 30/07/2020 16:15, Wolffan wrote:
> > On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
> > (in article <wCAUG.67604$RU.41593@fx27.ams1>):
> >
> > > On 30/07/2020 15:07, Wolffan wrote:
> > > > On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
> > > [....]
> > > > > > > I did, indeed, write to www.supernews.com
> > > > > > > As you know, I received an acknowledgement but no follow-up. Maybe I'll
> > > > > > > prod them again, sonny Jim!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > go for it. It’s been over a year. Note that the troll-boy just
> > > > > > sabotaged
> > > > > > his own ‘I was just joking’ defence. Yes, he’s that stupid.
> > > > >
> > > > > OK - I'll do it now! :-)
> > > >
> > > > you’re an idiot
> > >
> > > No. I'm not. I emailed just as I promised.
> > >
> > > Request received: [Supernews] |
> > > Request - (Ticket #: 4002614) - (Ticket #: 4328943)
> >
> > that’s one reason why you’re an idiot.
>
> It was *YOU* who failed to abide by the Acceptable Use Policy (AUP)

good luck proving that.
>
>
> https://www.supernews.com/docs/aup.html
>
> It states clearly:-
>
> Abuse Reports
> Reports of abuse can be sent to abuse@supernews.com
>
> "Supernews wishes to offer a flexible service that will meet the needs
> of our customers. We do not wish to regulate or censor our customers in
> any way. We do feel an obligation, however, to encourage appropriate use
> of our service and proper use of the newsgroups, to the mutual benefit
> of everyone that uses them."
>
> Publishing the personal information of fellow Usenet users is NOT
> "appropriate use".

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#133912 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromDavid_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2020-07-30 23:33 +0100
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<mVHUG.92012$im1.22176@fx18.ams1>
In reply to#133911
On 30/07/2020 18:39, Wolffan wrote:
> On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
> (in article <s6CUG.132068$dTb.115297@fx41.ams1>):
> 
>> On 30/07/2020 16:15, Wolffan wrote:
>>> On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
>>> (in article <wCAUG.67604$RU.41593@fx27.ams1>):
>>>
>>>> On 30/07/2020 15:07, Wolffan wrote:
>>>>> On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>> I did, indeed, write to www.supernews.com
>>>>>>>> As you know, I received an acknowledgement but no follow-up. Maybe I'll
>>>>>>>> prod them again, sonny Jim!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> go for it. It’s been over a year. Note that the troll-boy just
>>>>>>> sabotaged
>>>>>>> his own ‘I was just joking’ defence. Yes, he’s that stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK - I'll do it now! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> you’re an idiot
>>>>
>>>> No. I'm not. I emailed just as I promised.
>>>>
>>>> Request received: [Supernews] |
>>>> Request - (Ticket #: 4002614) - (Ticket #: 4328943)
>>>
>>> that’s one reason why you’re an idiot.
>>
>> It was *YOU* who failed to abide by the Acceptable Use Policy (AUP)
> 
> good luck proving that.

Thanks. :-)

Q: Will we terminate an account for posting personal information about 
another?

A: Yes if our user continues to do it deliberately to harass. While it 
is not illegal to post publicly available info, if it is being done as a 
means to harass and attack, we will terminate the account. Please note 
that personal info means name and address or phone, not name alone. 
Email address does not count as personal information.

HTH

>> https://www.supernews.com/docs/aup.html
>>
>> It states clearly:-
>>
>> Abuse Reports
>> Reports of abuse can be sent to abuse@supernews.com
>>
>> "Supernews wishes to offer a flexible service that will meet the needs
>> of our customers. We do not wish to regulate or censor our customers in
>> any way. We do feel an obligation, however, to encourage appropriate use
>> of our service and proper use of the newsgroups, to the mutual benefit
>> of everyone that uses them."
>>
>> Publishing the personal information of fellow Usenet users is NOT
>> "appropriate use".

Ref:-  http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=abuse#Morphing

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#133913 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromWolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2020-07-30 18:50 -0400
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<0001HW.24D3865000EC06E470000D0E238F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#133912
On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
(in article <mVHUG.92012$im1.22176@fx18.ams1>):

> On 30/07/2020 18:39, Wolffan wrote:
> > On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
> > (in article <s6CUG.132068$dTb.115297@fx41.ams1>):
> >
> > > On 30/07/2020 16:15, Wolffan wrote:
> > > > On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
> > > > (in article <wCAUG.67604$RU.41593@fx27.ams1>):
> > > >
> > > > > On 30/07/2020 15:07, Wolffan wrote:
> > > > > > On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
> > > > > [....]
> > > > > > > > > I did, indeed, write to www.supernews.com
> > > > > > > > > As you know, I received an acknowledgement but no follow-up. Maybe
> > > > > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > > > prod them again, sonny Jim!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > go for it. It’s been over a year. Note that the troll-boy just
> > > > > > > > sabotaged
> > > > > > > > his own ‘I was just joking’ defence. Yes, he’s that stupid.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OK - I'll do it now! :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you’re an idiot
> > > > >
> > > > > No. I'm not. I emailed just as I promised.
> > > > >
> > > > > Request received: [Supernews] |
> > > > > Request - (Ticket #: 4002614) - (Ticket #: 4328943)
> > > >
> > > > that’s one reason why you’re an idiot.
> > >
> > > It was *YOU* who failed to abide by the Acceptable Use Policy (AUP)
> >
> > good luck proving that.
>
> Thanks. :-)
>
> Q: Will we terminate an account for posting personal information about
> another?
>
> A: Yes if our user continues to do it deliberately to harass. While it
> is not illegal to post publicly available info, if it is being done as a
> means to harass and attack, we will terminate the account. Please note
> that personal info means name and address or phone, not name alone.
> Email address does not count as personal information.
>
> HTH

go for it. idiot.
>
>
> > > https://www.supernews.com/docs/aup.html
> > >
> > > It states clearly:-
> > >
> > > Abuse Reports
> > > Reports of abuse can be sent to abuse@supernews.com
> > >
> > > "Supernews wishes to offer a flexible service that will meet the needs
> > > of our customers. We do not wish to regulate or censor our customers in
> > > any way. We do feel an obligation, however, to encourage appropriate use
> > > of our service and proper use of the newsgroups, to the mutual benefit
> > > of everyone that uses them."
> > >
> > > Publishing the personal information of fellow Usenet users is NOT
> > > "appropriate use".
>
> Ref:- http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=abuse#Morphing

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#133914 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromDavid_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2020-07-30 23:56 +0100
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<meIUG.142870$vLb.41384@fx43.ams1>
In reply to#133913
On 30/07/2020 23:50, Wolffan wrote:
> On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
> (in article <mVHUG.92012$im1.22176@fx18.ams1>):
> 
>> On 30/07/2020 18:39, Wolffan wrote:
>>> On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
>>> (in article <s6CUG.132068$dTb.115297@fx41.ams1>):
>>>
>>>> On 30/07/2020 16:15, Wolffan wrote:
>>>>> On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
>>>>> (in article <wCAUG.67604$RU.41593@fx27.ams1>):
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30/07/2020 15:07, Wolffan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>> I did, indeed, write to www.supernews.com
>>>>>>>>>> As you know, I received an acknowledgement but no follow-up. Maybe
>>>>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>>>>> prod them again, sonny Jim!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> go for it. It’s been over a year. Note that the troll-boy just
>>>>>>>>> sabotaged
>>>>>>>>> his own ‘I was just joking’ defence. Yes, he’s that stupid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK - I'll do it now! :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you’re an idiot
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. I'm not. I emailed just as I promised.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Request received: [Supernews] |
>>>>>> Request - (Ticket #: 4002614) - (Ticket #: 4328943)
>>>>>
>>>>> that’s one reason why you’re an idiot.
>>>>
>>>> It was *YOU* who failed to abide by the Acceptable Use Policy (AUP)
>>>
>>> good luck proving that.
>>
>> Thanks. :-)
>>
>> Q: Will we terminate an account for posting personal information about
>> another?
>>
>> A: Yes if our user continues to do it deliberately to harass. While it
>> is not illegal to post publicly available info, if it is being done as a
>> means to harass and attack, we will terminate the account. Please note
>> that personal info means name and address or phone, not name alone.
>> Email address does not count as personal information.
>>
>> HTH
> 
> go for it. idiot.

I am so doing/have done.

I'm not the keyboard cowboy, hiding in the Shadows.

That's YOU, son.

>>>> https://www.supernews.com/docs/aup.html
>>>>
>>>> It states clearly:-
>>>>
>>>> Abuse Reports
>>>> Reports of abuse can be sent to abuse@supernews.com
>>>>
>>>> "Supernews wishes to offer a flexible service that will meet the needs
>>>> of our customers. We do not wish to regulate or censor our customers in
>>>> any way. We do feel an obligation, however, to encourage appropriate use
>>>> of our service and proper use of the newsgroups, to the mutual benefit
>>>> of everyone that uses them."
>>>>
>>>> Publishing the personal information of fellow Usenet users is NOT
>>>> "appropriate use".
>>
>> Ref:- http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=abuse#Morphing

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#133915 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromAlan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
Date2020-07-30 15:59 -0700
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<rfvjd5$2ea$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#133914
On 2020-07-30 3:56 p.m., David_B wrote:
> On 30/07/2020 23:50, Wolffan wrote:
>> On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
>> (in article <mVHUG.92012$im1.22176@fx18.ams1>):
>>
>>> On 30/07/2020 18:39, Wolffan wrote:
>>>> On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
>>>> (in article <s6CUG.132068$dTb.115297@fx41.ams1>):
>>>>
>>>>> On 30/07/2020 16:15, Wolffan wrote:
>>>>>> On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
>>>>>> (in article <wCAUG.67604$RU.41593@fx27.ams1>):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30/07/2020 15:07, Wolffan wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 30 Jul 2020, David_B wrote
>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>>> I did, indeed, write to www.supernews.com
>>>>>>>>>>> As you know, I received an acknowledgement but no follow-up. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>>>>>> prod them again, sonny Jim!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> go for it. It’s been over a year. Note that the troll-boy just
>>>>>>>>>> sabotaged
>>>>>>>>>> his own ‘I was just joking’ defence. Yes, he’s that stupid.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK - I'll do it now! :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you’re an idiot
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No. I'm not. I emailed just as I promised.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Request received: [Supernews] |
>>>>>>> Request - (Ticket #: 4002614) - (Ticket #: 4328943)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that’s one reason why you’re an idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was *YOU* who failed to abide by the Acceptable Use Policy (AUP)
>>>>
>>>> good luck proving that.
>>>
>>> Thanks. :-)
>>>
>>> Q: Will we terminate an account for posting personal information about
>>> another?
>>>
>>> A: Yes if our user continues to do it deliberately to harass. While it
>>> is not illegal to post publicly available info, if it is being done as a
>>> means to harass and attack, we will terminate the account. Please note
>>> that personal info means name and address or phone, not name alone.
>>> Email address does not count as personal information.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>
>> go for it. idiot.
> 
> I am so doing/have done.
> 
> I'm not the keyboard cowboy...

Yeah... ...that is EXACTLY what you are, asshole.

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#133917 — Re: DNS Cache questions

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2020-07-30 19:06 -0400
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<300720201906313561%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#133915
In article <rfvjd5$2ea$1@dont-email.me>, Alan Baker
<notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:

> On 2020-07-30 3:56 p.m., David_B wrote:
> > I'm not the keyboard cowboy...
> 
> Yeah... ...that is EXACTLY what you are, asshole.

village idiot is more appropriate.

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#133919 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2020-07-30 16:55 -0700
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<hoh50aF1c5qU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#133917
On 7/30/20 4:06 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article <rfvjd5$2ea$1@dont-email.me>, Alan Baker
> <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:
> 
>> On 2020-07-30 3:56 p.m., David_B wrote:
>>> I'm not the keyboard cowboy...
>>
>> Yeah... ...that is EXACTLY what you are, asshole.
> 
> village idiot is more appropriate.
> 

What do you think your need to put others down just to try to feel 
better about yourself says about you?

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#133920 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromDavid_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2020-07-31 10:01 +0100
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<g5RUG.254915$qj7.7633@fx04.ams1>
In reply to#133919
On 31/07/2020 00:55, Snit wrote:
> On 7/30/20 4:06 PM, nospam wrote:
>> In article <rfvjd5$2ea$1@dont-email.me>, Alan Baker
>> <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2020-07-30 3:56 p.m., David_B wrote:
>>>> I'm not the keyboard cowboy...
>>>
>>> Yeah... ...that is EXACTLY what you are, asshole.
>>
>> village idiot is more appropriate.
>>
> 
> What do you think your need to put others down just to try to feel 
> better about yourself says about you?

It confirms that he's a Troll!

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#133924 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2020-07-31 10:00 +0000
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<hoi8dnF8hg7U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#133920
David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 31/07/2020 00:55, Snit wrote:
>> On 7/30/20 4:06 PM, nospam wrote:
>>> In article <rfvjd5$2ea$1@dont-email.me>, Alan Baker
>>> <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2020-07-30 3:56 p.m., David_B wrote:
>>>>> I'm not the keyboard cowboy...
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah... ...that is EXACTLY what you are, asshole.
>>> 
>>> village idiot is more appropriate.
>>> 
>> 
>> What do you think your need to put others down just to try to feel 
>> better about yourself says about you?
> 
> It confirms that he's a Troll!
> 
> 

None of my business, but I wonder what hurt people like that to make them
as they are. How can we as people break such cycles? 

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.

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#133928 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromDavid_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2020-07-31 12:14 +0100
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<r2TUG.146558$kS3.137068@fx32.ams1>
In reply to#133924
On 31/07/2020 11:00, Snit wrote:
> David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On 31/07/2020 00:55, Snit wrote:
>>> On 7/30/20 4:06 PM, nospam wrote:
>>>> In article <rfvjd5$2ea$1@dont-email.me>, Alan Baker
>>>> <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2020-07-30 3:56 p.m., David_B wrote:
>>>>>> I'm not the keyboard cowboy...
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah... ...that is EXACTLY what you are, asshole.
>>>>
>>>> village idiot is more appropriate.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What do you think your need to put others down just to try to feel
>>> better about yourself says about you?
>>
>> It confirms that he's a Troll!
>>
>>
> 
> None of my business, but I wonder what hurt people like that to make them
> as they are.


It is the business of EVERYONE to make the Internet a better and safer 
place for all. :-)


> How can we as people break such cycles?


*Investigate things which we don't understand*!

Like why this site /appears/ to be hosted on a Microsoft server!

https://ibb.co/PxsZwN8

winhelp2002.mvps.org

=

Domain Name: MVPS.ORG
Registry Domain ID: D1989691-LROR
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2019-12-21T15:17:21Z
Creation Date: 1997-01-28T05:00:00Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2021-01-29T05:00:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date:
Registrar: NameCheap, Inc.
Registrar IANA ID: 1068
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@namecheap.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6613102107
Reseller:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited 
https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registrant Organization: WhoisGuard, Inc.
Registrant State/Province: Panama
Registrant Country: PA
Name Server: NS1.MVPS.ORG
Name Server: NS2.MVPS.ORG
DNSSEC: unsigned

=

COMMUNITY
HTTP Response
Final URL
http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/
Serving IP Address
216.155.126.40
Status Code
200
Body Length
9.84 KB
Body SHA-256
6be37f371a74b4956628314710615c4946af9947fbff22226fd26b2f4428f6a1
Headers
accept-ranges	bytes
content-length	10081
content-type	text/html
date	Sun, 14 Jun 2020 12:22:55 GMT
etag	"803f5f7693acd31:0"
last-modified	Fri, 23 Feb 2018
server	Microsoft-IIS/7.5	<--------- *IS THIS A MICROSOFT SERVER*?
vary	Accept-Encoding
x-powered-by	ASP.NET

=

It says at the bottom of the web page:-

*Microsoft* and or MVPS.org are *in no way affiliated with*, nor offers 
endorsement of, this site.

--
(ACW newsgroup added.)

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#133922 — Re: DNS Cache questions

FromDavid_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2020-07-31 10:21 +0100
SubjectRe: DNS Cache questions
Message-ID<koRUG.324490$Og6.186577@fx01.ams1>
In reply to#133919
On 31/07/2020 00:55, Snit wrote:
> On 7/30/20 4:06 PM, nospam wrote:
>> In article <rfvjd5$2ea$1@dont-email.me>, Alan Baker
>> <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2020-07-30 3:56 p.m., David_B wrote:
>>>> I'm not the keyboard cowboy...
>>>
>>> Yeah... ...that is EXACTLY what you are, asshole.
>>
>> village idiot is more appropriate.
>>
> 
> What do you think your need to put others down just to try to feel 
> better about yourself says about you?

These are not nice, honest, people, Michael.

Confirmation here:- 
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/pdsAAHIfkn0

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