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Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs

Started byJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
First post2020-06-27 16:49 -0400
Last post2020-07-04 20:31 +0000
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  Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-27 16:49 -0400
    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-27 17:07 -0400
      Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-27 22:33 +0000
        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-28 02:45 +0000
    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-06-27 17:19 -0400
      Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-27 17:48 -0400
        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-06-27 17:53 -0400
          Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-27 22:35 +0000
            Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-01 15:09 +0000
              Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-01 11:02 -0700
    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-06-27 18:02 -0400
      Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-27 22:36 +0000
        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-06-28 06:22 -0400
          Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-28 16:26 +0000
            Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-03 03:51 +0000
              Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-02 20:58 -0700
              Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-03 02:31 -0400
                Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-03 11:19 +0000
                Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-03 08:29 -0400
                  Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 04:06 +0000
                    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-03 21:13 -0700
                      Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-04 01:56 -0400
                        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 00:02 -0700
                          Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-04 03:49 -0400
                            Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 01:13 -0700
                            Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-04 12:50 +0000
                              Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 16:24 +0000
                                Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 09:41 -0700
                              Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-04 14:01 -0400
                                Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 14:07 -0400
                                Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 18:35 +0000
                                Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-04 15:16 -0400
                                Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 17:08 -0400
                            Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-04 07:23 -0700
                              Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 11:03 -0400
                                Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 16:08 +0000
                                  Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 09:16 -0700
                                    Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-04 15:19 -0400
                                      Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 19:36 +0000
                                        Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 21:07 +0000
                                        Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 14:11 -0700
                                          Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-05 03:18 +0000
                                            Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-05 04:02 +0000
                                              Arlen is utterly unmoved by facts Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 21:48 -0700
                                      Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 15:47 -0400
                                      Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 14:07 -0700
                                        Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 17:12 -0400
                                          Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 14:15 -0700
                                            Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 17:22 -0400
                                              Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2020-07-04 16:25 -0500
                                              Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 14:41 -0700
                                              Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 21:45 +0000
                                                Arlen makes yet another explicit claim... (wasRe: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs You know who! <no@body.net> - 2020-07-04 14:49 -0700
                                            Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-05 03:14 +0000
                                      Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-09 18:34 -0700
                                        Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-09 21:52 -0400
                                          Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-10 02:56 +0000
                                            Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-09 20:38 -0700
                                              Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-11 15:24 +1200
                                                Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-10 23:35 -0400
                                                  Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 04:24 +0000
                                                    Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 04:36 +0000
                                                    Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-11 10:40 -0700
                                                  Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-12 12:55 +1200
                                                    Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-12 01:10 +0000
                                                    Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-11 22:36 -0400
                                                      Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-12 04:17 +0000
                                                        Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-13 16:16 +1200
                                                          Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-13 05:43 +0000
                                                            Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-13 21:55 +1200
                                                              Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs delvon daily <delvondaily@example.com> - 2020-07-13 14:37 -0700
                                                                OT: Why must Arlen nymshift? (was Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-13 15:13 -0700
                                                                Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-14 16:07 +1200
                                                                  Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 01:22 -0400
                                                                    Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-14 21:12 +1200
                                                                      Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 19:27 -0400
                                                                        Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-15 11:59 +1200
                                                                          Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 22:54 -0400
                                                                            Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-16 16:37 +1200
                                                                              Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-16 18:10 -0400
                                                                                Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-17 13:29 +1200
                                                                                  Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-16 21:45 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-18 22:14 +1200
                                                                                      Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-18 11:50 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-19 16:07 +1200
                                                                                          Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 08:17 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-07-19 14:34 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-20 16:49 +1200
                                                                                              Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-21 11:31 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-22 12:47 +1200
                                                                                                  Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-21 21:02 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-17 06:41 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-18 22:15 +1200
                                                                                      Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-18 11:50 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-19 16:11 +1200
                                                                                          Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 08:17 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-20 16:51 +1200
                                                                                              Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-21 11:31 -0400
                                                                  Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-18 07:18 -0700
                                                                    Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-18 11:50 -0400
                                                                      Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-07-18 21:47 +0200
                                                Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 04:51 +0000
                                                  Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs John Michael <tonymayo43@gmail.com> - 2020-07-11 01:30 -0400
                                                    Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 05:55 +0000
                                                      Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 05:59 +0000
                                                    Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-14 10:11 +0000
                                                    Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-15 17:14 +0000
                                              Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: xxxxx is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-18 08:37 -0700
                                                Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: xxxxx is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-18 18:31 +0000
                                                  Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: xxxxx is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-18 21:01 +0000
                                                Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: xxxxx is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-18 20:54 +0000
                                        Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-10 15:21 +1200
                                          Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-09 20:30 -0700
                                            Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-09 23:36 -0400
                                              Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-09 20:42 -0700
                                            Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-10 15:44 +1200
                                              Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-10 04:18 +0000
                                                Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs For a friend <notyou@yes.yes> - 2020-07-09 21:35 -0700
                                                  Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-10 01:04 -0400
                                                    Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-09 22:06 -0700
                                                      Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-10 01:27 -0400
                                                        Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-09 23:13 -0700
                                                        Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-10 14:20 +0000
                                                          Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-10 10:09 -0700
                                                            Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-11 15:18 +1200
                                                              Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 05:00 +0000
                                                              Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-10 22:34 -0700
                                                                Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-12 12:54 +1200
                                                                Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-12 04:22 +0000
                                                                  Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-12 06:07 +0000
                                                    Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-10 18:47 +1200
                                                      Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-10 14:27 +0000
                                                    Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-10 14:13 +0000
                                          Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-09 23:36 -0400
                                    Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-05 10:09 +1200
                                      Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 15:10 -0700
                                      Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 23:29 +0000
                                  Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 16:56 -0400
                                    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 21:36 +0000
                              Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-05 10:06 +1200
                                Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 23:23 +0000
                                  How is it that Arlen can be this thick? Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs He really has no clue <none@all.com> - 2020-07-04 16:52 -0700
                                  Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> - 2020-07-05 03:25 +0200
                                    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-05 03:08 +0000
                                    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 20:27 -0700
                        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 17:21 +0000
                          Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 16:59 -0400
                            Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 17:12 -0400
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    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-27 22:30 +0000
      Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-27 19:08 -0400
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        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-28 02:19 +0000
          Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-28 00:37 -0400
            Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-28 16:20 +0000
              Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-28 12:52 -0400
                Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-28 21:30 +0000
                  Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-29 16:45 -0400
                    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-30 04:21 +0000
                      Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-01 02:56 +0000
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        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-28 00:26 +0000
        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-28 00:30 +0000
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                Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-06-29 19:14 +0000
                  Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-29 21:16 +0000
                Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-29 19:41 +0000
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                    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-29 13:53 -0700
                    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-29 21:16 +0000
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                    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-30 04:19 +0000
                      Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 04:31 +0000
                      Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-01 10:06 -0400
                        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-01 16:21 +0000
                          Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-01 16:56 +0000
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                            Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-01 19:13 +0000
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                                  Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-03 11:47 +0000
                                    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-03 09:11 -0700
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                                        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-03 10:29 -0700
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                                            Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-04 10:32 -0400
                                              Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 23:43 +0000
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                                                  Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-05 15:52 +0000
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                                            Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-05 17:14 -0400
                                      Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-03 16:26 -0400
                                        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-03 16:50 -0400
                                          Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-03 21:17 +0000
                                        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-03 13:55 -0700
                              Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-01 15:46 -0400
                                Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-01 12:51 -0700
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                                  Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-03 01:11 -0700
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                                        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-04 00:31 +0000
                                          Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-03 20:54 -0400
                                            Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-04 03:18 +0000
                                              Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-03 23:50 -0400
                                                Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-04 12:40 +0000
                                                Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-04 10:34 -0400
                                                  Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 11:03 -0400
                                                    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-05 16:00 +0000
                                        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 16:19 -0400
                                          Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-04 20:27 +0000
                                            Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-05 16:46 +0000
                                            Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-05 17:49 -0400
                                              Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-06 02:09 +0000
                                  Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-03 14:41 +0000
                        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-01 10:33 -0700
                          Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-01 19:15 +0000
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                    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-29 14:27 -0700
            Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-29 09:15 -0700
              Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-29 16:59 -0400
          Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-29 16:53 -0400
            Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 04:53 +0000
              Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2020-06-30 08:14 -0500
                Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-06-30 10:51 -0400
                  Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 19:37 +0000
                    OT: Why must Arlen constantly lie? (was Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Just for Arlen <justforarlen@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-30 13:57 -0700
                      Re: OT: Why must Arlen constantly lie? (was Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-01 16:55 -0400
                Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 17:48 +0000
                  Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2020-06-30 13:09 -0500
                    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-30 11:25 -0700
                    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 19:07 +0000
                      Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Especially for Arlen <especiallyforarlen@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-30 13:59 -0700
                        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-12-02 04:59 +0000
      Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Leonardo Pacheco <lpacheco72@gmail.com> - 2020-07-28 23:58 -0700
        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-29 09:47 +0000
        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-29 08:38 -0700
    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 04:44 +0000
      Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 04:49 +0000
        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 05:02 +0000
    Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-01 12:27 -0700
      Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-01 15:41 -0400
        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-03 02:18 -0400
      Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-01 21:32 +0000
      Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-03 02:01 -0400
        Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-03 14:43 +0000
          Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 15:36 -0400
            Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-04 20:31 +0000

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#133732

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2020-07-24 21:55 -0400
Message-ID<240720202155556104%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#133731
In article <slrnrhn3cb.vho.g.kreme@ProMini.lan>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <rffrb5$3c3$1@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> > Perhaps. But designing just an updated motherboard, with a new version 
> > of a CPU and chipset, is not difficult. In fact you don't even have to 
> > do it yourself, the company that makes the CPU will do almost all the 
> > work for you, including bring-up and debug. Been there, done that.
> 
> Apple is the one making the CPU. There is no one else designing
> motherboards for Apple.

apple has always designed their own boards, regardless of who made the
cpu.

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#133734

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2020-07-25 03:43 +0000
Message-ID<slrnrhnais.18rg.g.kreme@ProMini.lan>
In reply to#133732
In message <240720202155556104%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <slrnrhn3cb.vho.g.kreme@ProMini.lan>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> In message <rffrb5$3c3$1@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>> > Perhaps. But designing just an updated motherboard, with a new version 
>> > of a CPU and chipset, is not difficult. In fact you don't even have to 
>> > do it yourself, the company that makes the CPU will do almost all the 
>> > work for you, including bring-up and debug. Been there, done that.
>> 
>> Apple is the one making the CPU. There is no one else designing
>> motherboards for Apple.

> apple has always designed their own boards, regardless of who made the
> cpu.

That is also true.

sms knows this, of course, but has dedicated his Usenet life to posting
bullshit.


-- 
Some people are like a Slinky toy - not really good for anything, but
	you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the
	stairs.

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#133735

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2020-07-25 00:06 -0400
Message-ID<250720200006387669%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#133734
In article <slrnrhnais.18rg.g.kreme@ProMini.lan>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> >> In message <rffrb5$3c3$1@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> >> > Perhaps. But designing just an updated motherboard, with a new version 
> >> > of a CPU and chipset, is not difficult. In fact you don't even have to 
> >> > do it yourself, the company that makes the CPU will do almost all the 
> >> > work for you, including bring-up and debug. Been there, done that.
> >> 
> >> Apple is the one making the CPU. There is no one else designing
> >> motherboards for Apple.
> 
> > apple has always designed their own boards, regardless of who made the
> > cpu.
> 
> That is also true.

they've also designed a wide variety of custom chips, starting with the
apple ii, about 40 years ago.

> sms knows this, of course, but has dedicated his Usenet life to posting
> bullshit.

yep, and it's not a new pastime of his either. he's been at it for
several decades.

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#133737

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2020-07-25 14:47 +0000
Message-ID<ho2v0lFf7fU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#133727
On 2020-07-24, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 7/24/2020 3:13 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
>> On 2020-07-24 16:27, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> 
>>> LOL! Nope. I've worked professionally with several major
>>> multinational semiconductor makers in the semiconductor industry for
>>> a couple decades.
>> 
>> You certaintly don't behave as if you ever held a professional job.
>
> LOL, given his lack of knowledge of how the chip design and
> manufacturing process actually works

Projection.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#133736

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2020-07-25 14:32 +0000
Message-ID<ho2u3aFf7fU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#133721
On 2020-07-24, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2020-07-24 16:27, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> LOL! Nope. I've worked professionally with several major multinational
>> semiconductor makers in the semiconductor industry for a couple decades.
>
> You certaintly don't behave as if you ever held a professional job.

Projection.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#133740

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2020-07-25 10:51 -0700
Message-ID<rfhre7$7q7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#133721
On 7/24/2020 3:13 PM, JF Mezei wrote:

<snip>

> Producing a Mac Pro that is competitive n 2021, but keeping the same
> chip for 6 years means that chip stops being competitive after a couple
> of years.

Think of Tesla. They keep the same body each year but they do upgrades 
to the motors, the batteries, and the charging system.

There is no need to change the current Mac Pro chassis. As new versions 
of the Xeon and the support chips are released, updating the motherboard 
is not difficult. Putting in faster SSD and improved graphics cards is 
not difficult. But if OS-X doesn't maintain support for x86 then there's 
no point in doing this.

We don't know the future plans for the Mac Pro. It could be sold for 
five or six more years in its current configuration. There could be a 
new ARM-based design. Or the product line could be discontinued.

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#133742

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2020-07-25 14:16 -0400
Message-ID<250720201416567896%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#133740
In article <rfhre7$7q7$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> There is no need to change the current Mac Pro chassis. As new versions 
> of the Xeon and the support chips are released, updating the motherboard 
> is not difficult. Putting in faster SSD and improved graphics cards is 
> not difficult. But if OS-X doesn't maintain support for x86 then there's 
> no point in doing this.

mac os (not 'os-x') will support intel for many years, however, *all*
macs are transitioning to apple silicon within 2 years (likely sooner
than that).

> We don't know the future plans for the Mac Pro.

it's quite clear what direction it's going.

> It could be sold for 
> five or six more years in its current configuration.

no it very definitely can't, since it will no longer be competitive
well before that.

> There could be a 
> new ARM-based design.

not 'could'. apple said there *will* be.

> Or the product line could be discontinued.

that would be stupid.

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#133747

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2020-07-25 17:53 -0400
Message-ID<7R1TG.106358$zX4.49113@fx41.iad>
In reply to#133742
On 2020-07-25 14:16, nospam wrote:

> mac os (not 'os-x') will support intel for many years, however, *all*
> macs are transitioning to apple silicon within 2 years (likely sooner
> than that).

Learn to read.  "the transition will be complete within 2 years" does
not mean the same thing as "all current mac models will be transitioned
within 2 years".


Apple stated the former, you claim the later.

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#133749

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2020-07-25 18:36 -0400
Message-ID<250720201836380888%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#133747
In article <7R1TG.106358$zX4.49113@fx41.iad>, JF Mezei
<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> 
> > mac os (not 'os-x') will support intel for many years, however, *all*
> > macs are transitioning to apple silicon within 2 years (likely sooner
> > than that).
> 
> Learn to read.  "the transition will be complete within 2 years" does
> not mean the same thing as "all current mac models will be transitioned
> within 2 years".

yes it does.

some might change a little and there will likely be additional models
not previously possible due to the limitations of intel processors.

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#133753

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2020-07-25 18:00 -0700
Message-ID<rfikjc$g35$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#133747
On 7/25/2020 2:53 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
> On 2020-07-25 14:16, nospam wrote:
> 
>> mac os (not 'os-x') will support intel for many years, however, *all*
>> macs are transitioning to apple silicon within 2 years (likely sooner
>> than that).
> 
> Learn to read.  "the transition will be complete within 2 years" does
> not mean the same thing as "all current mac models will be transitioned
> within 2 years".

Precisely. People need to learn to read for comprehension!

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#133768

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2020-07-26 02:51 +0000
Message-ID<slrnrhprub.2r7t.g.kreme@ProMini.lan>
In reply to#133753
In message <rfikjc$g35$2@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 7/25/2020 2:53 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
>> On 2020-07-25 14:16, nospam wrote:
>> 
>>> mac os (not 'os-x') will support intel for many years, however, *all*
>>> macs are transitioning to apple silicon within 2 years (likely sooner
>>> than that).
>> 
>> Learn to read.  "the transition will be complete within 2 years" does
>> not mean the same thing as "all current mac models will be transitioned
>> within 2 years".

> Precisely. People need to learn to read for comprehension!

It seems exceedingly unlikely that Apple will abandon a brand-new product
that was developed in full knowledge that Apple Silicon Macs were right
around the corner.

-- 
Nothing says poor craftsmanship more than wrinkled duct tape.

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#133769

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2020-07-25 23:01 -0400
Message-ID<250720202301235400%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#133768
In article <slrnrhprub.2r7t.g.kreme@ProMini.lan>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> >>> mac os (not 'os-x') will support intel for many years, however, *all*
> >>> macs are transitioning to apple silicon within 2 years (likely sooner
> >>> than that).
> >> 
> >> Learn to read.  "the transition will be complete within 2 years" does
> >> not mean the same thing as "all current mac models will be transitioned
> >> within 2 years".
> 
> > Precisely. People need to learn to read for comprehension!
> 
> It seems exceedingly unlikely that Apple will abandon a brand-new product
> that was developed in full knowledge that Apple Silicon Macs were right
> around the corner.

exactly.

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#133771

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2020-07-25 23:08 -0400
Message-ID<%s6TG.75251$bQ4.33392@fx04.iad>
In reply to#133768
On 2020-07-25 22:51, Lewis wrote:

> It seems exceedingly unlikely that Apple will abandon a brand-new product
> that was developed in full knowledge that Apple Silicon Macs were right
> around the corner.

Here is a clue: how many years did it take between the 2013 MacPro and
the 2019 MacPro? You can Google for the answer.

The 2019 model was priced for low volume and thus failure. It can be
killed with the esaxt same logic as was used to kill off Xserve.


Your religious adoration of everything Apple blinds you.

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#133772

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2020-07-25 23:16 -0400
Message-ID<250720202316521106%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#133771
In article <%s6TG.75251$bQ4.33392@fx04.iad>, JF Mezei
<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> 
> > It seems exceedingly unlikely that Apple will abandon a brand-new product
> > that was developed in full knowledge that Apple Silicon Macs were right
> > around the corner.
> 
> Here is a clue: how many years did it take between the 2013 MacPro and
> the 2019 MacPro? You can Google for the answer.

here's a clue: the reason why there was a long gap has absolutely no
relevance whatsofuckingever to apple silicon macs.

> The 2019 model was priced for low volume and thus failure. It can be
> killed with the esaxt same logic as was used to kill off Xserve.

nonsense.

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#133775

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2020-07-26 11:07 +0000
Message-ID<slrnrhqp04.ssk.g.kreme@ProMini.lan>
In reply to#133771
In message <%s6TG.75251$bQ4.33392@fx04.iad> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2020-07-25 22:51, Lewis wrote:

>> It seems exceedingly unlikely that Apple will abandon a brand-new product
>> that was developed in full knowledge that Apple Silicon Macs were right
>> around the corner.

> Here is a clue: how many years did it take between the 2013 MacPro and
> the 2019 MacPro? You can Google for the answer.

And, being your usiual FUDster moron, you are claiming, underhandedly
and backhadnedly, that this was planned. What ACTUALLY happened was
Apple guessed that their configuration fo three high-heat sources in a
CPU and two GPUs would continue to be viable, but that did not happen.
the design of the MacPro required three nearly identical heat sources in
order to cool itself.

They talked at length about this when they announced they were
redesigning the Mac Pro because they had not been able to update the
2013 model.

Those are facts.

> The 2019 model was priced for low volume and thus failure.

You are so full of shit.

> It can be killed with the esaxt same logic as was used to kill off
> Xserve.

The Xserver was around for a decade.

> Your religious adoration of everything Apple blinds you.

I have no such religion nor adoration, but I am sick of your constant
stream of lies, misinformation, FUD, nd simply making shit up based on
nothing but total ignorance.

-- 
The only reason for walking into the jaws of Death is so's you can
	steal His gold teeth. --Colour of Magic

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#133783

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2020-07-26 14:11 -0400
Message-ID<KHjTG.176167$AN2.163064@fx46.iad>
In reply to#133775
On 2020-07-26 07:07, Lewis wrote:

> And, being your usiual FUDster moron, you are claiming, underhandedly
> and backhadnedly, that this was planned.

I never said the long delay betwene MacPros was planned. But what it
shows is that for Apple, the Mac Pro isn't a strategic products that
needs to be refreshed frequently.  They don,t care about sale numbers
for the Mac Pro.

Designing a case is done every day by many companies. It isn't rocket
science and if Aple had wanted to, they could have gotted the Cheese
grater out in 2015 with a product refresh.  (especially true since Apple
was aware of bugs in the 2013 MacPro graphic cards - it replaced only
the D700 in a recall, but not the D300 (hence my frequent crashes).


>> The 2019 model was priced for low volume and thus failure.
> 
> You are so full of shit
And you are in denial. Interestingly, the one aspect of the MacPro which
is very good is the display. for $5000 the calibrated/certified display
is up against other low volume displays that sell for $15k to $20k.
Again, to Hollywood studios with lots of money.

But the computer itself is nothing special in terms of performace
compared to wintel boxes.  This was purposefully priced as a luxury
product like the Apple gold watch.


> 
>> It can be killed with the esaxt same logic as was used to kill off
>> Xserve.
> 
> The Xserver was around for a decade.

And the Mac Pro has been around for quite some time. The last Xserve was
a mid 2009 model, killed in January 2010 because Apple decided it wanted
out of that market.

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#133788

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2020-07-26 14:59 -0400
Message-ID<260720201459095815%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#133783
In article <KHjTG.176167$AN2.163064@fx46.iad>, JF Mezei
<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> 
> > And, being your usiual FUDster moron, you are claiming, underhandedly
> > and backhadnedly, that this was planned.
> 
> I never said the long delay betwene MacPros was planned. But what it
> shows is that for Apple, the Mac Pro isn't a strategic products that
> needs to be refreshed frequently.  They don,t care about sale numbers
> for the Mac Pro.

nonsense.

they made a number of mistakes with the 2013 mac pro and tried to work
around them, but ultimately realized they had to start over.

> Designing a case is done every day by many companies. It isn't rocket
> science and if Aple had wanted to, they could have gotted the Cheese
> grater out in 2015 with a product refresh.  (especially true since Apple
> was aware of bugs in the 2013 MacPro graphic cards - it replaced only
> the D700 in a recall, but not the D300 (hence my frequent crashes).

instead, they did *much* better with the current 2019 mac pro design
than a gutted cheese grater ever could.

> >> The 2019 model was priced for low volume and thus failure.
> > 
> > You are so full of shit
> And you are in denial. Interestingly, the one aspect of the MacPro which
> is very good is the display. for $5000 the calibrated/certified display
> is up against other low volume displays that sell for $15k to $20k.
> Again, to Hollywood studios with lots of money.

a display that costs substantially less than existing solutions is
designed for *high* volume, and far more than just hollywood studios.
it's now affordable for anyone doing colour critical work.

> But the computer itself is nothing special in terms of performace
> compared to wintel boxes.  This was purposefully priced as a luxury
> product like the Apple gold watch.

nonsense.

> >> It can be killed with the esaxt same logic as was used to kill off
> >> Xserve.
> > 
> > The Xserver was around for a decade.
> 
> And the Mac Pro has been around for quite some time. The last Xserve was
> a mid 2009 model, killed in January 2010 because Apple decided it wanted
> out of that market.

irrelevant.

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#133791

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2020-07-26 17:00 -0400
Message-ID<t9mTG.200898$DO2.29259@fx45.iad>
In reply to#133788
On 2020-07-26 14:59, nospam wrote:

> they made a number of mistakes with the 2013 mac pro and tried to work
> around them, but ultimately realized they had to start over.

They would have realized very quickly that the 2013 trash can was not
upgradable. Likely before the 2013 was actually released. (since they
would have tested heat management in the 2013 design to see its limits).


> instead, they did *much* better with the current 2019 mac pro design
> than a gutted cheese grater ever could.

Have you see actual sales numbers for the 2019 Mac Pro?

All the videos on Youtube are for people who got loaners or freebies
from Apple. Very few actually really paid for them.  Apple has learned
about product placement on youtube influencers.


> a display that costs substantially less than existing solutions is
> designed for *high* volume, and far more than just hollywood studios.
> it's now affordable for anyone doing colour critical work.

Not when the display is targetted at a very low vilume highly
specialized market. It is cheaper than others in that low volume highly
specialized market, but that doesn't make it afforable for mass market.

So Apple may take a good chunk of market share in that low vilume highey
specialized marlet, but that doesn't make it high volume.


>> But the computer itself is nothing special in terms of performace
>> compared to wintel boxes.  This was purposefully priced as a luxury
>> product like the Apple gold watch.
> 
> nonsense.

have you priced a fully kitted MacPro? How do you explain the price of
the wheel, or the data centra rack mount kit?

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#133794

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2020-07-26 23:39 +0000
Message-ID<slrnrhs515.99s.g.kreme@ProMini.lan>
In reply to#133791
In message <t9mTG.200898$DO2.29259@fx45.iad> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2020-07-26 14:59, nospam wrote:

>> they made a number of mistakes with the 2013 mac pro and tried to work
>> around them, but ultimately realized they had to start over.

> They would have realized very quickly that the 2013 trash can was not
> upgradable.

You arw AGAIN mking ahit up. You make a statement based on ZERO
knowledge. Not only that, but you are absolutely categorically wrong, as
Apple was quite clear when announcing they would be making a new desing
for the Mac Pro that they had tried many times to update the 2013.

So not only are you making shiot up, you are lying.

>> instead, they did *much* better with the current 2019 mac pro design
>> than a gutted cheese grater ever could.

> Have you see actual sales numbers for the 2019 Mac Pro?

I have seen actual Mac Pros. No one has seen sales numbners for the Mac
Pro because those numebrs do not exist.

> All the videos on Youtube are for people who got loaners or freebies
> from Apple. Very few actually really paid for them.

You are a FUD lying sack of shit.

> Not when the display is targetted at a very low vilume highly
> specialized market. It is cheaper than others in that low volume highly
> specialized market, but that doesn't make it afforable for mass market.

It is a tenth the price of similar reference monitors. Many people who
work in video have bought it because it is affordable for their work.

It is not intended to be affordable for home users, it is a professional
display for epopel who make their living from thinkgs like high-end
video.

>> nonsense.

> have you priced a fully kitted MacPro? How do you explain the price of
> the wheel, or the data centra rack mount kit?

The machine is cheap for what you get. It is not designed for poseurs.

-- 
Critics look at actresses one of two ways: you're either bankable or
	boinkable.

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#133804

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2020-07-26 23:34 -0400
Message-ID<YWrTG.133834$575.120043@fx38.iad>
In reply to#133794
On 2020-07-26 19:39, Lewis wrote:

> I have seen actual Mac Pros. No one has seen sales numbners for the Mac
> Pro because those numebrs do not exist.

Yet, you claim the Mac Pro sales are doing really well and that it isn't
a low volume machine.

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