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Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please.

Started by"David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org>
First post2019-01-23 09:28 +0000
Last post2019-01-27 15:10 +0000
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  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-23 09:28 +0000
    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 08:29 -0500
      Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Bob Campbell <none@none.none> - 2019-01-23 09:31 -0500
      Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-23 17:49 +0000
        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 14:37 -0500
    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2019-01-23 08:17 -0700
      Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-23 17:22 +0000
        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2019-01-23 10:46 -0700
          Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-23 18:02 +0000
            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 14:37 -0500
            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2019-01-23 12:53 -0700
              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-23 20:29 +0000
                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2019-01-23 20:33 +0000
                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:39 -0500
                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:39 -0500
                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-23 20:57 +0000
                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 17:06 -0500
                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-23 22:02 +0000
                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-23 23:43 +0000
                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Ed Norton <norton@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-23 18:53 -0500
                      Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-24 00:01 +0000
                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 18:54 -0500
                      Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-23 23:59 +0000
                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-24 01:18 +0000
                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2019-01-23 22:04 -0700
                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-24 10:57 +0000
                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2019-01-24 05:53 -0700
            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-23 21:52 +0000
    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-23 21:48 +0000
      Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-23 23:11 +0000
        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 18:24 -0500
          Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-24 00:03 +0000
            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Bob Campbell <none@none.none> - 2019-01-23 19:12 -0500
              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-24 00:16 +0000
                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 19:24 -0500
                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Bob Campbell <none@none.none> - 2019-01-24 00:20 -0500
                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Panthera Tigris Altaica <northentiger@outlook.com> - 2019-01-25 13:11 -0500
        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-24 01:11 +0000
          Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. jeremy <jeremy0505@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 13:48 +0000
            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-25 15:24 +0000
              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-25 10:50 -0500
              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-25 10:10 -0800
                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-27 22:16 +0000
                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-01-27 22:20 +0000
                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-27 14:25 -0800
            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-25 16:00 +0000
              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-25 16:23 +0000
                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-25 11:59 -0500
                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. jeremy <jeremy0505@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 18:16 +0000
                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-25 18:24 +0000
                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-25 19:37 +0000
                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-25 23:41 +0000
                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 09:25 -0500
                      Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-26 14:38 +0000
                        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 09:44 -0500
                          Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-26 15:50 +0000
                            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 10:58 -0500
                              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-26 16:07 +0000
                                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 11:08 -0500
                                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-26 16:13 +0000
                                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 11:15 -0500
                                      Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-26 16:36 +0000
                                        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 11:39 -0500
                                        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-26 17:13 +0000
                                          Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-26 21:04 +0000
                                            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 16:10 -0500
                                            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-27 00:20 +0000
                                              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-27 00:30 +0000
                                                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-27 01:23 +0000
                                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-26 17:10 +0000
                                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-26 12:08 -0800
                                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-26 12:07 -0800
                                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-26 20:24 +0000
                                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 15:36 -0500
                                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-27 08:19 -0800
                            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-26 12:06 -0800
                        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-26 17:09 +0000
                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. YK <xxxxx@dialme.com> - 2019-01-25 21:06 -0500
                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-26 08:59 +0000
                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. YK <xxxxx@dialme.com> - 2019-01-26 12:05 -0500
                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-26 17:05 +0000
                      Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-26 19:52 +0000
                        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 15:16 -0500
                        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. YK <xxxxx@dialme.com> - 2019-01-26 15:19 -0500
                          Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-26 20:48 +0000
                            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 16:10 -0500
                        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-27 00:17 +0000
                          Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-27 00:24 +0000
                            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-27 01:22 +0000
              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. jeremy <jeremy0505@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 18:13 +0000
                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-25 19:52 +0000
                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. jeremy <jeremy0505@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 12:30 +0000
                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. jeremy <jeremy0505@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 12:39 +0000
                      Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-26 13:11 +0000
                        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 09:25 -0500
                          Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-26 14:40 +0000
                            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 09:44 -0500
                              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-26 15:33 +0000
                                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 10:38 -0500
                        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2019-01-26 08:30 -0700
                          Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 10:38 -0500
                            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2019-01-26 08:53 -0700
                              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 10:58 -0500
                                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2019-01-26 09:32 -0700
                                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 11:39 -0500
                            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-26 15:54 +0000
                              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 10:58 -0500
                                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-27 15:33 +0000
                                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-27 22:44 -0500
                                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-01-28 09:30 +0000
                                      Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-28 11:41 -0500
                                        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-01-28 17:15 +0000
                                          Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-28 09:22 -0800
                                            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-01-28 18:43 +0000
                                              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-28 10:55 -0800
                                                OT? Not really! - Rootkits and computers (was Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please.) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-01-28 19:19 +0000
                                                  Re: OT? Not really! - Rootkits and computers (was Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please.) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-28 11:28 -0800
                                                  Re: OT? Not really! Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2019-01-28 20:00 -0200
                                                    TROLL post "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-01-28 23:12 +0000
                                                      Re: TROLL post Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-03 23:26 +0000
                                                        Re: TROLL post "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-05 00:03 +0000
                                                          Re: TROLL post Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2019-02-05 07:16 -0200
                                                            Re: TROLL post "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-05 09:41 +0000
                                                              Re: TROLL post Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2019-02-05 07:56 -0200
                                                                Re: TROLL post "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-05 10:17 +0000
                                                                  Re: TROLL post "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-05 10:47 +0000
                                                                    Re: TROLL post "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-06 08:48 +0000
                                                                    Re: TROLL post "David B." <"David B"@no.mail.afraid.org> - 2019-02-06 10:23 +0000
                                                                Re: TROLL post "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-05 10:21 +0000
                                                          Re: TROLL post Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-08 07:33 +0000
                                                            Re: TROLL post "David B." <"David B"@no.mail.afraid.org> - 2019-02-08 10:45 +0000
                                                              Re: [OT]TROLL post Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2019-02-08 11:33 -0200
                                                                Re: [OT]TROLL post John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-08 10:47 -0800
                                                              Re: TROLL post Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-09 07:28 +0000
                                                                Re: TROLL post "David B." <"David B"@no.mail.afraid.org> - 2019-02-09 08:22 +0000
                                                                  Re: TROLL post John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-09 15:02 -0800
                                                                  Re: [OT]TROLL post Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2019-02-10 00:16 -0200
                                                                    Re: [OT]TROLL post John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-10 08:24 -0800
                                                                    Re: [OT]TROLL post Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-13 08:13 +0000
                                                                      Re: [OT]TROLL post "David B." <"David B"@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:47 +0000
                                                                        Re: [OT]TROLL post Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2019-02-13 12:30 -0300
                                                                          Re: [OT]TROLL post Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-14 00:43 +0000
                                                                        Re: TROLL post Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2019-02-13 12:42 -0300
                                                                        Re: [OT]TROLL post Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-14 00:43 +0000
                                                                  Re: TROLL post Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-13 08:13 +0000
                                                                    Re: TROLL post "David B." <"David B"@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 08:32 +0000
                                                                      Re: TROLL post Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-13 10:00 +0000
                                                                        Re: TROLL post "David B." <"David B"@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 12:08 +0000
                                                                          Re: [OT]TROLL post Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2019-02-13 12:00 -0300
                                                                          Re: TROLL post Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2019-02-13 15:11 -0600
                                                                            Re: TROLL post Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-14 00:43 +0000
                                                                          Re: TROLL post Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-14 00:43 +0000
                                                                            Re: TROLL post John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-13 19:58 -0800
                                                                      Re: TROLL post Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2019-02-13 15:16 -0600
                                                  Re: OT? Not really! - Rootkits and computers (was Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please.) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-03 23:26 +0000
                                                    Re: OT? Not really! - Rootkits and computers (was Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please.) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-03 23:53 +0000
                                                      Re: OT? Not really! - Rootkits and computers (was Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please.) Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-04 03:59 +0000
                                                        Re: OT? Not really! - Rootkits and computers (was Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please.) John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-04 14:59 -0800
                                              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-28 13:57 -0500
                                                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2019-01-28 19:58 -0200
                                              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2019-01-28 19:56 -0200
                                                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-01-28 23:05 +0000
                                                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-03 23:26 +0000
                                                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-03 23:38 +0000
                                                      Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-03 18:56 -0500
                                                        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-04 23:47 +0000
                                                      Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-04 03:59 +0000
                                                        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-04 23:55 +0000
                                                          Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-08 07:33 +0000
                                                            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@no.mail.afraid.org> - 2019-02-08 12:39 +0000
                                                              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Panthera Tigris Altaica <northentiger@outlook.com> - 2019-02-08 11:42 -0500
                                                                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-08 11:04 -0800
                                                                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@no.mail.afraid.org> - 2019-02-08 19:14 +0000
                                                                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Panthera Tigris Altaica <northentiger@outlook.com> - 2019-02-08 15:16 -0500
                                                                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@no.mail.afraid.org> - 2019-02-08 23:01 +0000
                                                                      Re: [OT]Scripts - help requested with this, please. Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2019-02-10 00:09 -0200
                                                                      Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-13 08:14 +0000
                                                                        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 08:35 +0000
                                                                          Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-13 10:00 +0000
                                                                          Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-13 11:01 -0500
                                                                            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 17:42 +0000
                                                                              Re: [OT]Scripts - help requested with this, please. Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2019-02-13 17:15 -0300
                                                              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-09 07:28 +0000
                                              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-03 23:26 +0000
                                                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-03 23:44 +0000
                                                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-04 03:59 +0000
                                            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-03 23:26 +0000
                                          Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-28 13:12 -0500
                                          Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2019-01-28 19:52 -0200
                                            TROLL post "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-01-28 23:25 +0000
                                              Re: TROLL post Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-28 20:33 -0800
                                                Re: TROLL post Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2019-01-28 23:54 -0500
                                              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-03 23:26 +0000
                                                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-05 00:31 +0000
                                                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-04 19:45 -0500
                                                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2019-02-05 07:51 -0200
                                                      Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-05 09:54 +0000
                                                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-08 07:33 +0000
                                          Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-03 23:26 +0000
                                            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-03 23:50 +0000
                                              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-03 18:56 -0500
                                                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-04 00:05 +0000
                                                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-03 19:07 -0500
                                                    Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-04 00:56 +0000
                                              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-04 03:59 +0000
                                                Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-04 09:07 +0000
                                                  Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-08 07:33 +0000
                                      Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-03 23:26 +0000
                                        Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-03 23:52 +0000
                                          Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-04 03:59 +0000
            Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. jeremy <jeremy0505@gmail.com> - 2019-01-27 13:36 +0000
              Re: Scripts - help requested with this, please. "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-27 15:10 +0000

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#121110

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2019-01-25 10:50 -0500
Message-ID<250120191050527305%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#121108
In article <ESF2E.44495$Hn2.23035@fx19.fr7>, David B. <
B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> Can anyone suggest how the question should be modified?

select all, delete

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#121125

FromAlan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date2019-01-25 10:10 -0800
Message-ID<q2fjfd$1kk1$8@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#121108
On 2019-01-25 7:24 a.m., David B. wrote:
> On 25/01/2019 13:48, jeremy wrote:
>> In article <gashlmFq4e3U2@mid.individual.net>, jollyroger@pobox.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> On 2019-01-23, David B. <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I'd like to know if ANYONE reading the Usenet groups has installed
>> ClamXAV.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course some people here have installed ClamXAV. I've done so
>>>>> countless times in the past myself, and am sure others have as 
>>>>> well. The
>>>>> real question is why you care what other people do? I have. So what?
>>>>
>>>> You are the *FIRST* to admit that you have it on YOUR computer!
>>>>
>>>> Did you read this thread of mine?
>>>
>>> No, why?
>>>
>>>> It's a subscription service. I don't understand why have you "installed
>>>> it countless times"?
>>>
>>> Nah. It's just an app. I have owned and used many computers in the last
>>> decades. I don't keep track of trivial things like how many times I've
>>> installed a harmless piece of software.
>>
>> At the risk of fanning the flames...
>>
>>
>> I installed ClamXAV back in November I think on my macbook on which I am
>> running Mojave and parallels 14 (and within which I run Win10)
>>
>> I have been having serious issues with my Win10 - slow program loading
>> times, lacklustre performance, really slow to "sort itself out" after
>> opening the lid when on battery power (I always simply shut the lid - no
>> hibernate or other options used).
>>
>> I had installed ClamXAV as a trial - wasn't sure I wanted it but know
>> that Clam is a well-regarded AV product so that I'd give it a whirl.
>>
>> As it wa a trial, it quickly became out of date - it kept prompting to
>> download latest AV defintions (a good thign of course!) but as had no
>> subscription I didn't bother. I couln't find out how to prevent it from
>> running automatically on bootup of Mojave and couldn't find out how to
>> deinstal it either.
>>
>>
>> I ran a trial version of  App Cleaner on Monday - it removed ClamXAV
>> successfully.
>>
>> Since rebooting directy after, I have had none of the issues of
>> performanc that I was experiencing before (and have caused me a lot of
>> lost time & frustration over the last couple of months). This was on
>> Monday - I thought "give it a few days to make sure" - as I use this
>> machine extensively every day I think I have probably proven a point -
>> that (in my isolated case) ClamXAV was causing signifcant issues.
>>
>> I don't want to "feed the trolls" and have no idea if this is linked to
>> the OP's assertions that the product should be avoided (and clearly, if
>> they cannot have a good Facebook page they probably aren't deserving of
>> anyone's custom, I can see that completely [1]) but thought it might be
>> worth sharing.
>>
>> [1] this is where you might insert a smiley - you, dear reader, can
>> decide [2]
>> [2] As [1]
> 
> An interesting tale, Jeremy - thanks for sharing.  :-)
> 
> My friend...

You mean yourself under another pseudonym.

> ...has asked this question on the Apple Developers site but, as 
> you can see, made no progress.
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ni5cbv6kv4rgkil/Screenshot%202019-01-25%2015.05.43.png?dl=0 
> 
> 
> Can anyone suggest how the question should be modified?
> 

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#121303

From"David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2019-01-27 22:16 +0000
Message-ID<85q3E.29140$kn2.7976@fx24.fr7>
In reply to#121125
On 25/01/2019 18:10, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2019-01-25 7:24 a.m., David B. wrote:
>> On 25/01/2019 13:48, jeremy wrote:
[.....]
>>> At the risk of fanning the flames...
>>>
>>>
>>> I installed ClamXAV back in November I think on my macbook on which I am
>>> running Mojave and parallels 14 (and within which I run Win10)
>>>
>>> I have been having serious issues with my Win10 - slow program loading
>>> times, lacklustre performance, really slow to "sort itself out" after
>>> opening the lid when on battery power (I always simply shut the lid - no
>>> hibernate or other options used).
>>>
>>> I had installed ClamXAV as a trial - wasn't sure I wanted it but know
>>> that Clam is a well-regarded AV product so that I'd give it a whirl.
>>>
>>> As it wa a trial, it quickly became out of date - it kept prompting to
>>> download latest AV defintions (a good thign of course!) but as had no
>>> subscription I didn't bother. I couln't find out how to prevent it from
>>> running automatically on bootup of Mojave and couldn't find out how to
>>> deinstal it either.
>>>
>>>
>>> I ran a trial version of  App Cleaner on Monday - it removed ClamXAV
>>> successfully.
>>>
>>> Since rebooting directy after, I have had none of the issues of
>>> performanc that I was experiencing before (and have caused me a lot of
>>> lost time & frustration over the last couple of months). This was on
>>> Monday - I thought "give it a few days to make sure" - as I use this
>>> machine extensively every day I think I have probably proven a point -
>>> that (in my isolated case) ClamXAV was causing signifcant issues.
>>>
>>> I don't want to "feed the trolls" and have no idea if this is linked to
>>> the OP's assertions that the product should be avoided (and clearly, if
>>> they cannot have a good Facebook page they probably aren't deserving of
>>> anyone's custom, I can see that completely [1]) but thought it might be
>>> worth sharing.
>>>
>>> [1] this is where you might insert a smiley - you, dear reader, can
>>> decide [2]
>>> [2] As [1]
>>
>> An interesting tale, Jeremy - thanks for sharing.  :-)
>>
>> My friend...
> 
> You mean yourself under another pseudonym.

You need to listen to the POTUS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wFKKxcFxwY&t=49s

>> ...has asked this question on the Apple Developers site but, as you 
>> can see, made no progress.
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ni5cbv6kv4rgkil/Screenshot%202019-01-25%2015.05.43.png?dl=0 
>>
>>
>> Can anyone suggest how the question should be modified?

I feel saddened that no one here has sufficient experience of how best 
to satisfy the 'Moderator' in the Developers Forum :-(

-- 
David B.

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#121304

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2019-01-27 22:20 +0000
Message-ID<slrnq4sbm2.1ma7.g.kreme@jaka.local>
In reply to#121303
In message <85q3E.29140$kn2.7976@fx24.fr7> David B. <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> I feel saddened

Not as saddened as we are to see you posting your stalker drivel shit in
these groups.

David B is basically a toddler that shits on the kitchen floor, smears
it on all the cupboards, and then shows off his achievement.

I think it's time to add you to the "Arlen" kill file.

-- 
TO CHANGE THE FATE OF ONE INDIVIDUAL IS TO CHANGE THE WORLD. I REMEMBER
THAT. SO SHOULD YOU. Death still hadn't turned to face her. 'I don't
see why we shouldn't change things if it makes the world better,' said
Susan. HAH. 'Are you too scared to change the world?' Death turned.
The very sight of his expression made Susan back away. He advanced
slowly towards her. His voice, when it came, was a hiss. YOU SAY THAT
TO ME? YOU STAND THERE IN YOUR PRETTY DRESS AND SAY THAT TO ME? YOU? YOU
PRATTLE ON ABOUT CHANGING THE WORLD? COULD YOU FIND THE COURAGE TO
ACCEPT IT? TO KNOW WHAT MUST BE DONE AND DO IT, WHATEVER THE COST? IS
THERE ONE HUMAN BEING ANYWHERE WHO KNOWS WHAT DUTY MEANS? --Soul Music

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#121305

FromAlan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date2019-01-27 14:25 -0800
Message-ID<q2lb41$1a9h$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#121303
On 2019-01-27 2:16 p.m., David B. wrote:
> On 25/01/2019 18:10, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2019-01-25 7:24 a.m., David B. wrote:
>>> On 25/01/2019 13:48, jeremy wrote:
> [.....]
>>>> At the risk of fanning the flames...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I installed ClamXAV back in November I think on my macbook on which 
>>>> I am
>>>> running Mojave and parallels 14 (and within which I run Win10)
>>>>
>>>> I have been having serious issues with my Win10 - slow program loading
>>>> times, lacklustre performance, really slow to "sort itself out" after
>>>> opening the lid when on battery power (I always simply shut the lid 
>>>> - no
>>>> hibernate or other options used).
>>>>
>>>> I had installed ClamXAV as a trial - wasn't sure I wanted it but know
>>>> that Clam is a well-regarded AV product so that I'd give it a whirl.
>>>>
>>>> As it wa a trial, it quickly became out of date - it kept prompting to
>>>> download latest AV defintions (a good thign of course!) but as had no
>>>> subscription I didn't bother. I couln't find out how to prevent it from
>>>> running automatically on bootup of Mojave and couldn't find out how to
>>>> deinstal it either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I ran a trial version of  App Cleaner on Monday - it removed ClamXAV
>>>> successfully.
>>>>
>>>> Since rebooting directy after, I have had none of the issues of
>>>> performanc that I was experiencing before (and have caused me a lot of
>>>> lost time & frustration over the last couple of months). This was on
>>>> Monday - I thought "give it a few days to make sure" - as I use this
>>>> machine extensively every day I think I have probably proven a point -
>>>> that (in my isolated case) ClamXAV was causing signifcant issues.
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to "feed the trolls" and have no idea if this is linked to
>>>> the OP's assertions that the product should be avoided (and clearly, if
>>>> they cannot have a good Facebook page they probably aren't deserving of
>>>> anyone's custom, I can see that completely [1]) but thought it might be
>>>> worth sharing.
>>>>
>>>> [1] this is where you might insert a smiley - you, dear reader, can
>>>> decide [2]
>>>> [2] As [1]
>>>
>>> An interesting tale, Jeremy - thanks for sharing.  :-)
>>>
>>> My friend...
>>
>> You mean yourself under another pseudonym.
> 
> You need to listen to the POTUS!
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wFKKxcFxwY&t=49s

I really don't.

> 
>>> ...has asked this question on the Apple Developers site but, as you 
>>> can see, made no progress.
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ni5cbv6kv4rgkil/Screenshot%202019-01-25%2015.05.43.png?dl=0 
>>>
>>>
>>> Can anyone suggest how the question should be modified?
> 
> I feel saddened that no one here has sufficient experience of how best 
> to satisfy the 'Moderator' in the Developers Forum :-(

I feel saddened that people like you waste the time of others and 
actually stalk and harass people without getting your face punched...

...but we all have these little disappointments, don't we?

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#121112

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2019-01-25 16:00 +0000
Message-ID<gb0q4gFob89U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#121103
jeremy <jeremy0505@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> At the risk of fanning the flames...
> 
> I installed ClamXAV back in November I think on my macbook on which I am 
> running Mojave and parallels 14 (and within which I run Win10)
> 
> I have been having serious issues with my Win10 - slow program loading 
> times, lacklustre performance, really slow to "sort itself out" after 
> opening the lid when on battery power (I always simply shut the lid - no 
> hibernate or other options used).

But you didn’t attempt to figure out why? The proper thing to do is take
diagnostic steps such as looking at what the system is doing at the time of
the problem, such as which processes are consuming the most CPU, RAM, and
storage activity. Since you haven’t mentioned any details it sounds like
you were completely unaware of the cause of your problem, which could have
been many things unrelated to ClamXAV.

> I couln't find out how to prevent it from 
> running automatically on bootup of Mojave and couldn't find out how to 
> deinstal it either.

Both are easy to do, and the steps to do so are readily available with
simple web searches.

<https://www.clamxav.com/support/features-and-settings/preferences/#tab-advanced>

“Enable Sentry background monitor

Sentry is the part of ClamXAV which monitors your computer in the
background and scans new files as they land on your computer. Keeping this
option enabled is the best way for ClamXAV to protect you and your Mac.”

<https://www.clamxav.com/support/faqs/>

“How do I uninstall ClamXAV completely?

You can simply drag ClamXAV.app to the trash; after a few seconds you’ll
see a message asking if you would also like to uninstall the scanning
engine. If this doesn’t happen or it doesn’t appear to have worked, you can
download the uninstaller and run it manually. The uninstaller will remove
the scanning engine, preferences and any schedules you’ve got set up. But
we’ll be sorry to see you go.”

> I ran a trial version of  App Cleaner on Monday - it removed ClamXAV 
> successfully.

App cleaners are not needed on macOS, and often cause more problems than
they solve. You mention it removed ClamXAV, but don’t mention any other
things it removed - other things that have as much or more potential to
cause your problem.

> Since rebooting directy after, I have had none of the issues of 
> performanc that I was experiencing before (and have caused me a lot of 
> lost time & frustration over the last couple of months). This was on 
> Monday - I thought "give it a few days to make sure" - as I use this 
> machine extensively every day I think I have probably proven a point - 
> that (in my isolated case) ClamXAV was causing signifcant issues.

Nah. See above. You left out far too many variables to draw that
conclusion.

Correlation doesn’t imply causation:

<http://tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations>

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#121113

From"David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2019-01-25 16:23 +0000
Message-ID<UJG2E.17954$oQ1.2462@fx03.fr7>
In reply to#121112
On 25/01/2019 16:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
> jeremy <jeremy0505@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> At the risk of fanning the flames...
>>
>> I installed ClamXAV back in November I think on my macbook on which I am
>> running Mojave and parallels 14 (and within which I run Win10)
>>
>> I have been having serious issues with my Win10 - slow program loading
>> times, lacklustre performance, really slow to "sort itself out" after
>> opening the lid when on battery power (I always simply shut the lid - no
>> hibernate or other options used).
> 
> But you didn’t attempt to figure out why? The proper thing to do is take
> diagnostic steps such as looking at what the system is doing at the time of
> the problem, such as which processes are consuming the most CPU, RAM, and
> storage activity. Since you haven’t mentioned any details it sounds like
> you were completely unaware of the cause of your problem, which could have
> been many things unrelated to ClamXAV.

That's true - just like most computer USERS!

>> I couldn't find out how to prevent it from
>> running automatically on bootup of Mojave and couldn't find out how to
>> deinstal it either.
> 
> Both are easy to do, and the steps to do so are readily available with
> simple web searches.
> 
> <https://www.clamxav.com/support/features-and-settings/preferences/#tab-advanced>

Someone needs to suggest to Mark Allan that he should come here to 
Usenet to support his position. I'd do that myself but he refuses to 
correspond with me.

> “Enable Sentry background monitor
> 
> Sentry is the part of ClamXAV which monitors your computer in the
> background and scans new files as they land on your computer. Keeping this
> option enabled is the best way for ClamXAV to protect you and your Mac.”
> 
> <https://www.clamxav.com/support/faqs/>
> 
> “How do I uninstall ClamXAV completely?
> 
> You can simply drag ClamXAV.app to the trash; after a few seconds you’ll
> see a message asking if you would also like to uninstall the scanning
> engine. If this doesn’t happen or it doesn’t appear to have worked, you can
> download the uninstaller and run it manually. The uninstaller will remove
> the scanning engine, preferences and any schedules you’ve got set up. But
> we’ll be sorry to see you go.”

*What if that isn't, actually, true*?

>> I ran a trial version of  App Cleaner on Monday - it removed ClamXAV
>> successfully.
> 
> App cleaners are not needed on macOS, and often cause more problems than
> they solve. You mention it removed ClamXAV, but don’t mention any other
> things it removed - other things that have as much or more potential to
> cause your problem.

As an everyday USER how could he possibly know WHAT the cleaner does?!!

>> Since rebooting directy after, I have had none of the issues of
>> performanc that I was experiencing before (and have caused me a lot of
>> lost time & frustration over the last couple of months). This was on
>> Monday - I thought "give it a few days to make sure" - as I use this
>> machine extensively every day I think I have probably proven a point -
>> that (in my isolated case) ClamXAV was causing signifcant issues.
> 
> Nah. See above. You left out far too many variables to draw that
> conclusion.
> 
> Correlation doesn’t imply causation:
> 
> <http://tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations>

Fascinating graphs - thanks for the link! :-D

=

I can't recall the detail now, but I used a facility from the Apple App 
store called EasyFind to scour my old iMac for any file which was in any 
way connected with ClamXAV - I'm 99% sure that I found some! (and 
deleted all of them!)  Try it for yourself and see for yourself.

-- 
David B.

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#121115

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2019-01-25 11:59 -0500
Message-ID<250120191159384932%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#121113
In article <UJG2E.17954$oQ1.2462@fx03.fr7>, David B. <
B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> Someone needs to suggest to Mark Allan that he should come here to 
> Usenet to support his position.

no point in that

> I'd do that myself but he refuses to 
> correspond with me.

he's smarter than i thought.


> 
> >> I ran a trial version of  App Cleaner on Monday - it removed ClamXAV
> >> successfully.
> > 
> > App cleaners are not needed on macOS, and often cause more problems than
> > they solve. You mention it removed ClamXAV, but don¹t mention any other
> > things it removed - other things that have as much or more potential to
> > cause your problem.
> 
> As an everyday USER how could he possibly know WHAT the cleaner does?!!

that's the whole point.

app cleaners can potentially delete things that are entirely unrelated,
causing all sorts of problems.

they are not needed and potentially very dangerous.



> 
> I can't recall the detail now,

too much booze can do that

> but I used a facility from the Apple App 
> store called EasyFind to scour my old iMac for any file which was in any 
> way connected with ClamXAV - I'm 99% sure that I found some! (and 
> deleted all of them!)  Try it for yourself and see for yourself.

that's how app cleaners work, and is a very bad idea.

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#121128

Fromjeremy <jeremy0505@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-25 18:16 +0000
Message-ID<MPG.36b562dd220bae509897e6@news.individual.net>
In reply to#121113
In article <UJG2E.17954$oQ1.2462@fx03.fr7>, "David B"@nomail.afraid.org 
says...
> >>
> >> At the risk of fanning the flames...
> >>
> >> I installed ClamXAV back in November I think on my macbook on which I am
> >> running Mojave and parallels 14 (and within which I run Win10)
> >>
> >> I have been having serious issues with my Win10 - slow program loading
> >> times, lacklustre performance, really slow to "sort itself out" after
> >> opening the lid when on battery power (I always simply shut the lid - no
> >> hibernate or other options used).
> > 
> > But you didn?t attempt to figure out why? The proper thing to do is take
> > diagnostic steps such as looking at what the system is doing at the time of
> > the problem, such as which processes are consuming the most CPU, RAM, and
> > storage activity. Since you haven?t mentioned any details it sounds like
> > you were completely unaware of the cause of your problem, which could have
> > been many things unrelated to ClamXAV.
> 
> That's true - just like most computer USERS!
> 
> 

You don't need to uppercase the word users - it looks a little 
hysterical.

But you're right - most of the time we are just grateful that thing we 
spend 11 hours every working day tapping away on is doing what we ask of 
it - so a problem remedied (even if apparently only and temporary) is 
often a great relief.

I am s/w developer of old; nowadays I spend my life on email, 
spreadsheets, documents as a user and have little interest in what's 
going on under the hood.

-- 
jeremy

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#121129

From"David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2019-01-25 18:24 +0000
Message-ID<svI2E.96609$fJ4.25692@fx09.fr7>
In reply to#121128
On 25/01/2019 18:16, jeremy wrote:
> In article <UJG2E.17954$oQ1.2462@fx03.fr7>, "David B"@nomail.afraid.org
> says...
>>>>
>>>> At the risk of fanning the flames...
>>>>
>>>> I installed ClamXAV back in November I think on my macbook on which I am
>>>> running Mojave and parallels 14 (and within which I run Win10)
>>>>
>>>> I have been having serious issues with my Win10 - slow program loading
>>>> times, lacklustre performance, really slow to "sort itself out" after
>>>> opening the lid when on battery power (I always simply shut the lid - no
>>>> hibernate or other options used).
>>>
>>> But you didn?t attempt to figure out why? The proper thing to do is take
>>> diagnostic steps such as looking at what the system is doing at the time of
>>> the problem, such as which processes are consuming the most CPU, RAM, and
>>> storage activity. Since you haven?t mentioned any details it sounds like
>>> you were completely unaware of the cause of your problem, which could have
>>> been many things unrelated to ClamXAV.
>>
>> That's true - just like most computer USERS!
>>
>>
> 
> You don't need to uppercase the word users - it looks a little
> hysterical.

Maybe you're right, but some of the folk on Usenet groups consider 
themselves technical experts, not simply users of computers.

> But you're right - most of the time we are just grateful that thing we
> spend 11 hours every working day tapping away on is doing what we ask of
> it - so a problem remedied (even if apparently only and temporary) is
> often a great relief.

I know exactly what you mean!

> I am s/w developer of old; nowadays I spend my life on email,
> spreadsheets, documents as a user and have little interest in what's
> going on under the hood.

It's been a refreshing change to 'talk' to you, Jeremy! :-)

My wife can drive a car satisfactorily yet has no idea at all what goes 
on under the bonnet! It doesn't make her any less of a woman.

-- 
David B.

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#121134

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2019-01-25 19:37 +0000
Message-ID<gb16reFqtoeU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#121113
On 2019-01-25, David B. <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
> Someone needs to suggest to Mark Allan that he should come here to 
> Usenet to support his position.

Creating software that scans for malware threats isn't a "position",
which means there's nothing to defend. The software does what is
advertised. There's nothing untoward about it. And the only person here
I see attacking him is you. I see no need for him to come here to defend
himself against irrational attacks. The rest of us (many who know a lot
more about software than you) don't have beef with him or his software. 

> I'd do that myself but he refuses to correspond with me.

Attacking people irrationally tends to have that effect. Whether you'll
ever learn from that life experience is in question.

>> <https://www.clamxav.com/support/faqs/>
>> 
>> “How do I uninstall ClamXAV completely?
>> 
>> You can simply drag ClamXAV.app to the trash; after a few seconds you’ll
>> see a message asking if you would also like to uninstall the scanning
>> engine. If this doesn’t happen or it doesn’t appear to have worked, you can
>> download the uninstaller and run it manually. The uninstaller will remove
>> the scanning engine, preferences and any schedules you’ve got set up. But
>> we’ll be sorry to see you go.”
>
> *What if that isn't, actually, true*?

Prove it isn't true. I'll wait. Until then, you're blowing hot air.

>>> I ran a trial version of  App Cleaner on Monday - it removed ClamXAV
>>> successfully.
>> 
>> App cleaners are not needed on macOS, and often cause more problems than
>> they solve. You mention it removed ClamXAV, but don’t mention any other
>> things it removed - other things that have as much or more potential to
>> cause your problem.
>
> As an everyday USER how could he possibly know WHAT the cleaner does?!!

Thanks for supporting my point about Mac cleaner apps being ill-advised. 

> I can't recall the detail now, but I used a facility from the Apple App 
> store called EasyFind to scour my old iMac for any file which was in any 
> way connected with ClamXAV - I'm 99% sure that I found some! (and 
> deleted all of them!)  Try it for yourself and see for yourself.

Nah. No need.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#121149

From"David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2019-01-25 23:41 +0000
Message-ID<w8N2E.18144$kn2.7333@fx24.fr7>
In reply to#121134
On 25/01/2019 19:37, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2019-01-25, David B. <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>> Someone needs to suggest to Mark Allan that he should come here to
>> Usenet to support his position.
> 
> Creating software that scans for malware threats isn't a "position",
> which means there's nothing to defend. The software does what is
> advertised. There's nothing untoward about it. And the only person here
> I see attacking him is you. I see no need for him to come here to defend
> himself against irrational attacks. The rest of us (many who know a lot
> more about software than you) don't have beef with him or his software.

I'm sure you recognise that Mark Allan could be here under a pseudonym 
or just lurking!

>> I'd do that myself but he refuses to correspond with me.
> 
> Attacking people irrationally tends to have that effect. Whether you'll
> ever learn from that life experience is in question.

I still have a copy of all my original correspondence with him. Would 
you care to review it? (it's in PDF format)

>>> <https://www.clamxav.com/support/faqs/>
>>>
>>> “How do I uninstall ClamXAV completely?
>>>
>>> You can simply drag ClamXAV.app to the trash; after a few seconds you’ll
>>> see a message asking if you would also like to uninstall the scanning
>>> engine. If this doesn’t happen or it doesn’t appear to have worked, you can
>>> download the uninstaller and run it manually. The uninstaller will remove
>>> the scanning engine, preferences and any schedules you’ve got set up. But
>>> we’ll be sorry to see you go.”
>>
>> *What if that isn't, actually, true*?
> 
> Prove it isn't true. I'll wait. Until then, you're blowing hot air.

YOU have refused to search your computer with EasyFind. You therefore 
cannot be sure there are no remnants residing on your relevant machine.

>>>> I ran a trial version of  App Cleaner on Monday - it removed ClamXAV
>>>> successfully.
>>>
>>> App cleaners are not needed on macOS, and often cause more problems than
>>> they solve. You mention it removed ClamXAV, but don’t mention any other
>>> things it removed - other things that have as much or more potential to
>>> cause your problem.
>>
>> As an everyday USER how could he possibly know WHAT the cleaner does?!!
> 
> Thanks for supporting my point about Mac cleaner apps being ill-advised.
> 
>> I can't recall the detail now, but I used a facility from the Apple App
>> store called EasyFind to scour my old iMac for any file which was in any
>> way connected with ClamXAV - I'm 99% sure that I found some! (and
>> deleted all of them!)  Try it for yourself and see for yourself.
> 
> Nah. No need.

Yes, there *IS* a need. Otherwise, you will NEVER be sure! ;-)

-- 
David B.

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#121174

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2019-01-26 09:25 -0500
Message-ID<260120190925252413%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#121149
In article <w8N2E.18144$kn2.7333@fx24.fr7>, David B. <
B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> 
> YOU have refused to search your computer with EasyFind. You therefore 
> cannot be sure there are no remnants residing on your relevant machine.

it doesn't matter if there is or not. remnants are *inert*.

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#121176

From"David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2019-01-26 14:38 +0000
Message-ID<uh_2E.95189$Rl6.8259@fx10.fr7>
In reply to#121174
On 26/01/2019 14:25, nospam wrote:
> In article <w8N2E.18144$kn2.7333@fx24.fr7>, David B. <
> B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> 
>>
>> YOU have refused to search your computer with EasyFind. You therefore
>> cannot be sure there are no remnants residing on your relevant machine.
> 
> it doesn't matter if there is or not. remnants are *inert*.

That isn't true.

-- 
David B.

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#121179

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2019-01-26 09:44 -0500
Message-ID<260120190944381610%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#121176
In article <uh_2E.95189$Rl6.8259@fx10.fr7>, David B. <
B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> >> YOU have refused to search your computer with EasyFind. You therefore
> >> cannot be sure there are no remnants residing on your relevant machine.
> > 
> > it doesn't matter if there is or not. remnants are *inert*.
> 
> That isn't true.

it absolutely is true.

ancillary files do nothing by themselves except take up a tiny amount
of space. they can be ignored.

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#121189

From"David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2019-01-26 15:50 +0000
Message-ID<1l%2E.133610$Yn2.116138@fx26.fr7>
In reply to#121179
On 26/01/2019 14:44, nospam *THE TROLL* says ...

> In article <uh_2E.95189$Rl6.8259@fx10.fr7>, David B. <
> B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> 
>>>> YOU have refused to search your computer with EasyFind. You therefore
>>>> cannot be sure there are no remnants residing on your relevant machine.
>>>
>>> it doesn't matter if there is or not. remnants are *inert*.
>>
>> That isn't true.
> 
> it absolutely is true.

You are wrong - *AGAIN*!

> ancillary files do nothing by themselves except take up a tiny amount
> of space. they can be ignored
MBAM leaves files which prevent one from having more than one free 
trial. I've been led to believe that other software does so too.

-- 
David B.

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#121194

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2019-01-26 10:58 -0500
Message-ID<260120191058337693%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#121189
In article <1l%2E.133610$Yn2.116138@fx26.fr7>, David B. <
B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> >>>> YOU have refused to search your computer with EasyFind. You therefore
> >>>> cannot be sure there are no remnants residing on your relevant machine.
> >>>
> >>> it doesn't matter if there is or not. remnants are *inert*.
> >>
> >> That isn't true.
> > 
> > it absolutely is true.
> 
> You are wrong - *AGAIN*!

nope.

> > ancillary files do nothing by themselves except take up a tiny amount
> > of space. they can be ignored
> MBAM leaves files which prevent one from having more than one free 
> trial. I've been led to believe that other software does so too.

those aren't in any way harmful, and deleting them to get another free
trial is theft.

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#121196

From"David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2019-01-26 16:07 +0000
Message-ID<jB%2E.59733$fn2.33325@fx12.fr7>
In reply to#121194
On 26/01/2019 15:58, nospam *THE TROLL* lied again...

> In article <1l%2E.133610$Yn2.116138@fx26.fr7>, David B. <
> B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> YOU have refused to search your computer with EasyFind. You therefore
>>>>>> cannot be sure there are no remnants residing on your relevant machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> it doesn't matter if there is or not. remnants are *inert*.
>>>>
>>>> That isn't true.
>>>
>>> it absolutely is true.
>>
>> You are wrong - *AGAIN*!
> 
> nope.
> 
>>> ancillary files do nothing by themselves except take up a tiny amount
>>> of space. they can be ignored
>> MBAM leaves files which prevent one from having more than one free
>> trial. I've been led to believe that other software does so too.
> 
> those aren't in any way harmful, and deleting them to get another free
> trial is theft.

You claimed they were "inert" - they are not. You *LIED* - *AGAIN*!

-- 
David B.

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#121197

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2019-01-26 11:08 -0500
Message-ID<260120191108524813%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#121196
In article <jB%2E.59733$fn2.33325@fx12.fr7>, David B. <
B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> >>> ancillary files do nothing by themselves except take up a tiny amount
> >>> of space. they can be ignored
> >> MBAM leaves files which prevent one from having more than one free
> >> trial. I've been led to believe that other software does so too.
> > 
> > those aren't in any way harmful, and deleting them to get another free
> > trial is theft.
> 
> You claimed they were "inert" - they are not. You *LIED* - *AGAIN*!

they are inert.

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#121198

From"David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2019-01-26 16:13 +0000
Message-ID<5H%2E.61005$fn2.34178@fx12.fr7>
In reply to#121197
On 26/01/2019 16:08, nospam wrote:
> In article <jB%2E.59733$fn2.33325@fx12.fr7>, David B. <
> B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> 
>>>>> ancillary files do nothing by themselves except take up a tiny amount
>>>>> of space. they can be ignored
>>>> MBAM leaves files which prevent one from having more than one free
>>>> trial. I've been led to believe that other software does so too.
>>>
>>> those aren't in any way harmful, and deleting them to get another free
>>> trial is theft.
>>
>> You claimed they were "inert" - they are not. You *LIED* - *AGAIN*!
> 
> they are inert.

They prevent a procedure - just like a *Rootkit*!

-- 
David B.

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