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Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid!

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#120387

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2019-01-10 17:44 +0000
Message-ID	<g9pek6F3jptU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#120378

On 2019-01-10, arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
> On 10 Jan 2019 04:53:42 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> That's all you're ever going to get out of him. He's a pathetic loser
>> whose word means nothing.
>
> Remember when, for example you *congratulated* Snit, on finding, you
> thought, the one app on the planet (you thought) that actually could graph
> WiFi signal strength on iOS over time for all available access points?

Never happened, liar. And to prove it, you can't show a link to me
saying that. You'll wiggle and squirm like the worm you are, but you'll
never cough up a link of me saying that. Your word means nothing, lame
troll. And you don't even have enough self respect to care that the
whole world can see you for what you are. Your only "joy" in life is
harassing complete strangers you hold an irrational hatred for. You lead
a pitiful and sad existence.

> *Words mean absolutely nothing to you, Jolly Roger.*

Lies and projection are all you have, loser. You and the Supreme Orange
Turd Leader would make great friends. You both lie constantly, and your
word means nothing. And you'll both go down as the complete joke of a
shit stain you are on humanity in history. 

> In fact, to you, a decibel & a megabit are exactly the same thing.

Untrue no matter how many times you say it.

> you're _that_ unfathomably stupid

*YAWN* Ad hominem is all you have, loser. Keep on #WINNING... Back to
the kill file you go. Time to change your nym for the ten thousandth
time.

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#120344

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date	2019-01-09 19:12 -0500
Message-ID	<090120191912597401%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to	#120340

In article <q161r7$42t$1@news.mixmin.net>, arlen holder
<arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> How freaking hard it is to "transfer their data" anyway?

for android, it's very difficult to transfer *everything*, or even some
of it.

for ios, it's trivial. the new phone detects the old phone, and after
confirming, it does its thing...

<https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/22938-28390-QuickStart-l.jpg>

<https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_
US/iOS/ios12-iphone-x-setup-restore-from-icloud-backup.jpg>

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#120354

From	arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com>
Date	2019-01-10 02:34 +0000
Message-ID	<q16b0f$h4u$3@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#120344

On Wed, 09 Jan 2019 19:12:59 -0500, nospam wrote:

> for ios, it's trivial. the new phone detects the old phone, and after
> confirming, it does its thing...

Classic Apple Apologist behavior of you, nospam.
Facts don't fit in your imaginary (i.e., religious) belief system.

*You refute, out of hand, what Apple themselves already admits.*
o What is wrong with the Apple Apologists that they deny even what Apple admitted?
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/fyL1cQUVCp0%5B1-25%5D>

These are Tim Cook's exact words, nospam, in back-to-back sentences 
(so it was no fluke):  <https://youtu.be/qvR3PEPqX9A?t=411>

This is what he said, exactly:
o "*People are _very worried_ about transferring their data*."
o "They're _very worried_ that with this new phone there will be something they lost in that process ."

You can play your classic Apple Apologist games nospam, and refute
what Tim Cook clearly said.

But the fact you Apologists don't like facts doesn't change the facts.
Facts have no place to fit in your imaginary (i.e., religious) belief system.

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#120358

From	Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date	2019-01-09 19:02 -0800
Message-ID	<q16cj8$mhp$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#120354

On 2019-01-09 6:34 p.m., arlen holder wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jan 2019 19:12:59 -0500, nospam wrote:
> 
>> for ios, it's trivial. the new phone detects the old phone, and after
>> confirming, it does its thing...
> 
> Classic Apple Apologist behavior of you, nospam.
> Facts don't fit in your imaginary (i.e., religious) belief system.
> 
> *You refute, out of hand, what Apple themselves already admits.*
> o What is wrong with the Apple Apologists that they deny even what Apple admitted?
>   <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/fyL1cQUVCp0%5B1-25%5D>
> 
> These are Tim Cook's exact words, nospam, in back-to-back sentences
> (so it was no fluke):  <https://youtu.be/qvR3PEPqX9A?t=411>
> 
> This is what he said, exactly:
> o "*People are _very worried_ about transferring their data*."
> o "They're _very worried_ that with this new phone there will be something they lost in that process ."

Yes... ...and those are both true.

So?

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#120346

From	sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date	2019-01-09 16:20 -0800
Message-ID	<q1633u$cnm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#120340

On 1/9/2019 3:58 PM, arlen holder wrote:

> "We are also putting a lot of focus on the service side. Our stores
> are unbelievable at service. People are very worried about
> transferring their data. They're very worried that with this new
> phone there will be something they lost in that process .So we're
> putting a lot of emphasis on doing that and doing that well."

Remember, you and I live in Silicon Valley where there's usually someone
in every household that knows how to do all of this. That's not the case 
everywhere. When I upgraded my wife's personal phone recently I had to 
show her how to transfer all the photos from her old phone to her new 
phone, and then encourage her to use Google Photos for backup, rather 
than storing everything locally.

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#120352

From	arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com>
Date	2019-01-10 02:34 +0000
Message-ID	<q16b0d$h4u$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#120346

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 16:20:15 -0800, sms wrote:

> Remember, you and I live in Silicon Valley where there's usually someone
> in every household that knows how to do all of this. That's not the case 
> everywhere. When I upgraded my wife's personal phone recently I had to 
> show her how to transfer all the photos from her old phone to her new 
> phone, and then encourage her to use Google Photos for backup, rather 
> than storing everything locally.

Hi sms,
I agree with you that we live in a location rife with intelligent people.

However, it's not just that you and I are intelligent and highly educated.
It's that you can I can *comprehend* what Tim Cook actually said.

As you're aware, I'm always trying to figure out why the average Apple user
thinks the way that they do (they're always more "religious" than factual).

So it is of interest that both Alan Baker & nospam deny obvious facts.
They don't even comprehend the slightest of what Tim Cook actually said.

How can people be _that_ unfathomably stupid?
I can't imagine such constant, overt, and obvious stupidity.

I just can't.
But what they say leaves only two options for why they say it:
o Either the Apologists really are that unfathomably fantastically stupid, 
o Or, they're always playing silly stupid childish semantic games.
(Pick one.)

What has always shocked me is that the dozen or so Apple Apologists like
nospam, Lewis, BK, Chris, "joe", Alan Baker, Jolly Roger, etc., 
exhibit absolutely no comprehension of what people actually say.

For example, *none* of those Apple Apologists appears to realize what I've
already reported on, and which was essentially explain to Congress, which
is that _all_ the iPhones of the last crop (8 & X included) are flawed.

You see in this very thread that nospam essentially refutes, almost
directly, what Tim Cook literally said.

And, you see, in the worst case, utter morons like Alan Baker claim that my
transcript is wrong, when it's verbatim (i.e., EXACT), and, then, when
confronted, Alan Baker tells us he never clicked on the link before
refuting the facts outright.

What irks me, is that these Apple users actually _are_ that incredibly
stupid.

Sure, you and I deal with, day in and day out, some of the smartest people
on this planet, in the Silicon Valley. I spent DECADES working on high tech
(I never explain it fully as I'm actually extremely well known in the
industry so I try to maintain my privacy by withholding the high-tech
startups I worked for).

I went to some of the best schools in this country, and live on one of the
best towns in the country - where - the fact simply is - that I'm only of
average intelligence compared to those in Silicon Valley who make this
valley rock.

The oddest thing though, is that I'm an utter genius compared to the
average Apple poster to this newsgroup, whether that be Alan Baker, nospam,
Jolly Roger, Lewis, BK, Tim Streater, etc.

It just boggles my mind how fantastically _dumb_ those Apologists are.
The fact is that I can *comprehend* what Tim Cook said.

Tim Cook essentially said, in multiple places, that his customer is stupid.
Given Apple is one of the finest Marketing orgs on the planet, I'd agree.
The one thing Apple Marketing knows - is its customer.

So if Tim Cook literally said, multiple times, that the Apple customer is
"very worried" about something as trivial as transferring their data from
their old iPhone to their new iPhone, then I have to assume that he's being
given his cues from Apple Marketing, who I already am on record stating is
the best of the best of the best - in knowing their customer inside & out.

Hence, the average Apple iPhone user is "very worried" about losing their
data simply by transferring it from an old iPhone to a new iPhone.

That is a fact intelligent people should be able to agree upon.
Nonetheless, I do AGREE with you that we're the cream of the crop.
(Surprisingly so, actually, as we probably only have low triple-digit IQs.)

We had my kids tested, and they're higher than that, but I've never been
tested for IQ that I know of, other than I almost aced my SATs, GREs,
LSATs, etc, when I took them, long long long ago.

The fact is, and I agree, that a _lot_ of Apple users have problems
transferring data - or Tim Cook wouldn't have said what he said (which is
that they do).

Actually, he said they're "very worried", which doesn't necessarily mean
that they lost any data, but, the sheer fact that they are "very worried"
over something _that trivial_, is a shocker, to me.

Hell, you are well aware I factory wipe my Android phone roughly about
monthly, and I'm not in the least worried (although I _have_ lost data due
to mistakes, hehhehheh). But it's just freaking data for Christs' sake.
And, it's easy to NOT make those mistakes (I let ES File Explorer "clean
APKs" once, for example, using default settings, which is about as stupid
as letting the iTunes abomination "sync" your iPod library using default
settings).

Live and learn.
Still, the point is that in _multiple_ instances, Tim Cook basically said
what he thought of the Apple iPhone customer.

And it's basically that they're stupid.

In addition, Tim Cook "danced" around the elephant in the room, which, if
the iPhone user can't figure out how to transfer data, then they'll _never_
figure out what Tim Cook actually said about the "surprise" in his numbers.
 Letter from Tim Cook to Apple investors
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/rtCD3DLnVww>

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#120360

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date	2019-01-09 22:33 -0500
Message-ID	<090120192233514795%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to	#120352

In article <q16b0d$h4u$1@news.mixmin.net>, arlen holder
<arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> I agree with you that we live in a location rife with intelligent people.

and it's a wonder how you ended up there.

> 
> How can people be _that_ unfathomably stupid?
> I can't imagine such constant, overt, and obvious stupidity.

with you as an example, anything is possible.

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#120365

From	arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com>
Date	2019-01-10 03:57 +0000
Message-ID	<q16fs2$nnb$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#120360

On Wed, 09 Jan 2019 22:33:51 -0500, nospam wrote:

> and it's a wonder how you ended up there.

Hi nospam,
I am sure you and your other fifth grade Apologists think that idiotic 
statement your best clever repartee.

The fact is, that _is_ your best repartee. (Sadly.)

You can't refute the facts with facts.
All you can do, as always, is deny the facts.

But you and Alan Baker denying facts without even CLICKING on the links 
that prove the facts, doesn't change that the facts, as stated, are facts.

On a good note, Tim Cook did say his "services revenue" was doing well.
<https://youtu.be/qvR3PEPqX9A?t=632>

Exact quotes from Tim Cook follow below from time point 632 seconds:
    "Services has grown incredible amounts. We're going to report 
   over $10.8 billion when we report later this month for last quarter. 
   That's a new record. "

Tim Cook goes on to say:
   "This is incredibly exciting for us because so many things hit records 
   in there.  The App Store did. Apple Music hit a new record. Apple Pay 
   hit a new record. Our search app product from the app store hit a new 
   record. iCloud hit a new record. "

And then he explains that it's world wide:
   "And so, it's very wide, and each geography hit a quarterly record. 
   Even in China, the App Store hit a quarterly record. Why is that? 
   It's because it's driven by our installed base."

Then he explained the installed base, admittedly monumental:
   "And our installed base grew nicely year over year in China as well. 
   And as I say in the letter, we picked up a hundred more million active 
   devices over the last 12 months alone. This is an incredible number."

One question I would have is how much can they be earning from their 
"search app product", whatever that is?

What is Tim Cook talking about?
Is it this? <https://searchads.apple.com/advanced/>
<https://searchads.apple.com/>

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#120366

From	Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date	2019-01-09 20:00 -0800
Message-ID	<q16g0c$15au$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#120365

On 2019-01-09 7:57 p.m., arlen holder wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jan 2019 22:33:51 -0500, nospam wrote:
> 
>> and it's a wonder how you ended up there.
> 
> Hi nospam,
> I am sure you and your other fifth grade Apologists think that idiotic
> statement your best clever repartee.
> 
> The fact is, that _is_ your best repartee. (Sadly.)
> 
> You can't refute the facts with facts.
> All you can do, as always, is deny the facts.
> 
> But you and Alan Baker denying facts without even CLICKING on the links
> that prove the facts, doesn't change that the facts, as stated, are facts.
> 
> On a good note, Tim Cook did say his "services revenue" was doing well.
> <https://youtu.be/qvR3PEPqX9A?t=632>
> 
> Exact quotes from Tim Cook follow below from time point 632 seconds:
>      "Services has grown incredible amounts. We're going to report
>     over $10.8 billion when we report later this month for last quarter.
>     That's a new record. "

How does that support your claim that he "LITERALLY" said his customers 
were stupid?

Or do you just not know what "literally" means?

> 
> Tim Cook goes on to say:
>     "This is incredibly exciting for us because so many things hit records
>     in there.  The App Store did. Apple Music hit a new record. Apple Pay
>     hit a new record. Our search app product from the app store hit a new
>     record. iCloud hit a new record. "
> 

How does that support your claim that he "LITERALLY" said his customers 
were stupid?

Or do you just not know what "literally" means?

> And then he explains that it's world wide:
>     "And so, it's very wide, and each geography hit a quarterly record.
>     Even in China, the App Store hit a quarterly record. Why is that?
>     It's because it's driven by our installed base."
> 

How does that support your claim that he "LITERALLY" said his customers 
were stupid?

Or do you just not know what "literally" means?

> Then he explained the installed base, admittedly monumental:
>     "And our installed base grew nicely year over year in China as well.
>     And as I say in the letter, we picked up a hundred more million active
>     devices over the last 12 months alone. This is an incredible number."
> 

How does that support your claim that he "LITERALLY" said his customers 
were stupid?

Or do you just not know what "literally" means?

> One question I would have is how much can they be earning from their
> "search app product", whatever that is?
> 
> What is Tim Cook talking about?
> Is it this? <https://searchads.apple.com/advanced/>
> <https://searchads.apple.com/>
> 

Why do you continue to deflect from your claim?

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#120368

From	arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com>
Date	2019-01-10 04:08 +0000
Message-ID	<q16gga$ofr$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#120366

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 20:00:12 -0800, Alan Baker wrote:

> How does that support your claim that he "LITERALLY" said his customers 
> were stupid?

You remind me of Snit, Alan Baker.
Are you sure you're not Snit?

Snit posted, over 400 times, links to this idiotic video making the same type
of repeated idiotic claims that you're doing, now, Alan Baker.
 <https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo> 

And yet... even after repeating himself (we counted) over 400 times... 
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/PZuec56EWB0/qSXecrnZAQAJ>

Never once did Snit realize (nor even look) at what the Y-axis indicated.
You're the same as Snit, Alan Baker.

You refute claims without ever even *comprehending* what you're looking at.

You're absolutely no different than Snit, Alan Baker.
o  It's a fact iOS devices can't even graph Wi-Fi signal strength over time 
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/PZuec56EWB0/rX-L9xbYAQAJ>

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#120371

From	Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date	2019-01-09 20:12 -0800
Message-ID	<q16gmi$18iv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#120368

On 2019-01-09 8:08 p.m., arlen holder wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 20:00:12 -0800, Alan Baker wrote:
> 
>> How does that support your claim that he "LITERALLY" said his customers
>> were stupid?
> You remind me of...

Answer the question.

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#120374

From	arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com>
Date	2019-01-10 04:29 +0000
Message-ID	<q16ho6$pub$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#120371

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 20:12:01 -0800, Alan Baker wrote:

> Answer the question.

Hi Alan Baker,

*The answer you seek is already in the post you refuted 
& in the links you didn't click, nor did you comprehend.*

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#120376

From	Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date	2019-01-09 20:44 -0800
Message-ID	<q16iir$1g8l$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#120374

On 2019-01-09 8:29 p.m., arlen holder wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 20:12:01 -0800, Alan Baker wrote:
> 
>> Answer the question.
> 
> Hi Alan Baker,
> 
> *The answer you seek is already in the post you refuted
> & in the links you didn't click, nor did you comprehend.*
> 

You were asked to provide a specific quote that makes your claim:

Let's stay right where we are until you actually support your claim:

"Tim Cook later said, at time point 411 seconds, that the customer is,
literally, too stupid to do something themselves which is as simple as
transferring their data from their old phone to their new phone."

So here and now:

Quote what Tim Cook actually said in that video...

<https://youtu.be/qvR3PEPqX9A?t=315>

...where he said...

"literally"

...his customers are "too stupid".

Or, admit you lied...

...or you're just ignorant.

That's what you snipped and failed to address.

So you've admitted your ignorance or mendacity.

Now run along and learn what "mendacity" means before I let you decide 
which you're guilty of.

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#120388

From	arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com>
Date	2019-01-10 17:47 +0000
Message-ID	<q180g6$ne9$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#120376

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 20:44:11 -0800, Alan Baker wrote:

> You were asked to provide a specific quote that makes your claim:
> Let's stay right where we are until you actually support your claim:

Hi Alan Baker (and all average iOS users),

Let's "try" to converse, as "adults" converse.
*For this post, I'll assume that you actually own the mind of an adult.*
I will point out eight statements, and respond with 8 adult observations.

Let's see what happens when I assume you comprehend what adults do.
(Although it's a waste of time to talk to you as if you were an adult.)

But let's try - where everything below *assumes* you own an adult mind.
NOTE: I limited each statement & observation to <70 characters for brevity.

*Statement A:*
o Tim Cook said the trade-in program was "primarily" for "the environment".
Observation A:
o If you actually _believe_ that, then, IMHO, you own the mind of a child.

*Statement B:*
o Tim Cook then said the "truth" is that it "looks like a subsidy".
Observation B:
o An adult mind will comprehend what "looks like" actually means.

*Statement C:*
o Tim Cook then further said the "truth" is that it "lowers the price".
Observation C:
o If you own the mind of an adult, you'll *comprehend* it's about price.

*Statement D:*
o Tim Cook discusses $749 going to $449 "a lot", which was cleverly chosen.
Observation D:
o Any comprehensive adult will see right through multiple games here.

*Statement E:*
o Tim Cook says it "begins to look" like the old way of doing business.
Observation E:
o Every intelligent adult can see right through that "payment" trick.

*Statement F:*
o Tim Cook implied the "very worried" will pay for data-xfer service.
Observation F:
o It was in response to services revenue; adults can infer the implied.

*Statement G:*
o Tim Cook explained the "surprise" by blaming what what Apple knew.
o He said: "Where that didn't all happen yesterday"
o He said: "We knew that was going to be a factor"
Observation G:
o Any adult realizes you can't blame a "surprise" on what you already knew.

*Statement H:*
o Tim Cook literally blamed the $30 battery for lack of $1500 iPhone sales.
Observation H:
o Nobody who owns an adult mind will believe a word he said about that.

What Tim Cook did NOT say, is just as important as what he said.
o Apple 1st fucked the customer & then raised the price astronomically
o Not only is the price astronomical, but there's no concomitant value
o Worse, two of the three new phones have the _same_ sized battery!

That's the surprise.
o *Heretofore extremely loyal sheep stopped grazing at 1 Infinite Loop*

After going through this appreciable effort to summarize for you, Alan 
Baker, what was already stated numerous times, I realize that you, Alan 
Baker, are not capable of comprehending what I just wrote.

Hence, the only value added is that, for actual adults (of which, I admit, 
there are few on this newsgroup), this adult-to-adult itemized summary will 
further cement the obvious, which is that Tim Cook literally said that he 
truly believes his loyal customers, are unfathomably stupid - because - if 
they believe what he said - they MUST be unfathomably stupid.

HINT: Tim Cook does NOT believe a single word that he himself said.
DOUBLEHINT: Apple Marketing gave him _all_ his talking points.

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#120389

From	Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date	2019-01-10 10:05 -0800
Message-ID	<q181gu$41r$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#120388

On 2019-01-10 9:47 a.m., arlen holder wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 20:44:11 -0800, Alan Baker wrote:
> 
>> You were asked to provide a specific quote that makes your claim:
>> Let's stay right where we are until you actually support your claim:
> Hi Alan Baker (and all average iOS users),
> 
> Let's "try" to converse, as "adults" converse.

By changing the subject? No.

You were asked to provide a specific quote that makes your claim:

Let's stay right where we are until you actually support your claim:

"Tim Cook later said, at time point 411 seconds, that the customer is,
literally, too stupid to do something themselves which is as simple as
transferring their data from their old phone to their new phone."

So here and now:

Quote what Tim Cook actually said in that video...

<https://youtu.be/qvR3PEPqX9A?t=315>

...where he said...

"literally"

...his customers are "too stupid".

Or, admit you lied...

...or you're just ignorant.

That's what you snipped and failed to address.

So you've admitted your ignorance or mendacity.

Now run along and learn what "mendacity" means before I let you decide 
which you're guilty of.

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#120392

From	arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com>
Date	2019-01-10 18:23 +0000
Message-ID	<q182j1$qi3$2@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#120389

On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 10:05:20 -0800, Alan Baker wrote:

> You were asked to provide a specific quote that makes your claim:

Hi Alan Baker,

We're done for this thread, you and me.
It's a mismatch from the start.

You're just too clever for me, Alan Baker.
Much too clever.

1. I provide direct exact quotes backed up by links.
2. You say the quotes are wrong (at the same time admitting you didn't even
click on the links).

3. I provide MORE direct quotes, backed up by links.
4. Again, you say the quotes are wrong (at the same time not clicking the
links).

5. I then laboriously *summarize* eight specific statements for you.
6. You flatly deny the summary and observations, en masse.

We're done here, Alan Baker (where I'm sure everyone will thank us).
You're just way too clever for me, Alan Baker.

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#120393

From	Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date	2019-01-10 10:36 -0800
Message-ID	<q183ba$egn$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#120392

On 2019-01-10 10:23 a.m., arlen holder wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 10:05:20 -0800, Alan Baker wrote:
> 
>> You were asked to provide a specific quote that makes your claim:
> 
> Hi Alan Baker,
> 
> We're done for this thread, you and me.
> It's a mismatch from the start.
> 
> You're just too clever for me, Alan Baker.
> Much too clever.
> 
> 1. I provide direct exact quotes backed up by links.

No. You never provided the quote that showed Tim Cook "literally" 
calling his customers stupid.

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#120401

From	Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date	2019-01-10 21:59 +0000
Message-ID	<100120192159470804%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to	#120393

In article <q183ba$egn$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
wrote:

>On 2019-01-10 10:23 a.m., arlen holder wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 10:05:20 -0800, Alan Baker wrote:
>> 
>>> You were asked to provide a specific quote that makes your claim:
>> 
>> Hi Alan Baker,
>> 
>> We're done for this thread, you and me.
>> It's a mismatch from the start.
>> 
>> You're just too clever for me, Alan Baker.
>> Much too clever.

Good. So how about you fuck off and stay fucked off.

-- 
The reason you think government is the solution is because you think freedom is
the problem. But the truth is that government ensures that the most evil,
ruthless people end up in control, because the state is a single point of
failure, and a high-value target of corruption.

Alan Lovejoy

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#120405

From	arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com>
Date	2019-01-10 22:17 +0000
Message-ID	<q18g8u$d4p$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#120401

On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 21:59:47 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:

> So how about you fuck off and stay fucked off.

Hi Tim Streater,

Let me give you an opportunity, Tim Streater, to prove you're NOT a moron.
Q: What do _you_ think of what Tim Cook said in that recent interview?

I realize you've admitted you tried three times, and failed to pass the GED
exam, but you don't have to prove it time and again with every post.

Do you?

Let me give you an opportunity, Tim Streater, to prove you're NOT a moron.
Q: What do _you_ think of what Tim Cook said in that recent interview?

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#120380

From	sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date	2019-01-10 04:38 -0800
Message-ID	<q17ecl$4vq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#120352

On 1/9/2019 6:34 PM, arlen holder wrote:

<snip>

> So if Tim Cook literally said, multiple times, that the Apple customer is
> "very worried" about something as trivial as transferring their data from
> their old iPhone to their new iPhone, then I have to assume that he's being
> given his cues from Apple Marketing, who I already am on record stating is
> the best of the best of the best - in knowing their customer inside & out.
> 
> Hence, the average Apple iPhone user is "very worried" about losing their
> data simply by transferring it from an old iPhone to a new iPhone.

Be that as it may, the infrastructure of Apple stores is a powerful 
marketing tool because most people are not techies, even when they are 
experts in other fields. My sister-in-law is a physical therapist with 
an advanced degree. My wife is an RN with an advanced degree. I provide 
the tech support to both.

When my sister-in-law recently switched from her old Samsung Galaxy S3 
to an iPhone 7, she asked me for help. When I could not figure out how 
to do what she wanted on the iPhone she went to the Genius Bar at a 
local Apple store. Unfortunately, the Genius Bar employee explained to 
her what I had also learned by Googling it, the feature she used every 
work day on her Galaxy S3 was not available on the iPhone.

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