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No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server

Started byNomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com>
First post2018-09-09 00:32 +0200
Last post2018-09-09 23:54 +0800
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  No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-09-09 00:32 +0200
    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-09 17:19 +1200
      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-09-09 11:26 -0400
        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2018-11-06 09:14 -0500
          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-06 23:23 -0500
      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-09 18:17 +0000
        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-09 11:50 -0700
          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server anon <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-09-10 15:26 -0500
            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 13:34 -0700
            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 16:39 -0400
              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 17:34 -0700
            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server anon <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-09-10 16:56 -0500
              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-11 13:34 +1200
                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 18:39 -0700
                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-11 16:35 +1200
                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-11 06:51 -0500
                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-12 08:41 +1200
                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-11 14:42 -0700
                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-11 16:51 -0500
                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-11 14:55 -0700
                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-11 06:21 -0700
                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-12 08:46 +1200
                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-11 14:47 -0700
                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-12 13:47 +1200
                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-12 06:51 -0700
                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2018-11-06 09:21 -0500
                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2018-11-06 10:48 -0600
                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-06 11:59 -0400
                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server anon <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-09-10 20:39 -0500
                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-09-10 23:20 -0400
                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-11 16:30 +1200
                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-11 14:59 +0000
                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-09-11 17:08 -0500
                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-12 00:28 +0000
                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-09-11 20:46 -0500
                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-12 18:17 +1200
                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-09-12 19:34 -0500
                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 13:59 +0000
                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-09-13 16:57 -0500
                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 22:39 +0000
                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2018-09-14 20:13 -0700
                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-15 11:54 +0000
                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-09-15 08:41 -0400
                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-15 16:04 +0000
                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-15 15:55 +0000
                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2018-11-06 09:24 -0500
                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-06 15:53 +0000
                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-06 12:29 -0500
                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-06 12:34 -0400
                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-06 12:51 -0500
                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-06 12:55 -0400
                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-06 13:35 -0500
                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-06 11:17 -0800
                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-06 17:51 -0500
                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-06 15:05 -0800
                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-06 20:00 -0500
                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-06 17:29 -0800
                                                            OT: About OS/2 (Was:Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server) Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-07 09:16 -0500
                                                              Re: OT: About OS/2 (Was:Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server) SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-07 09:58 -0500
                                                              Re: OT: About OS/2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-09 19:07 +0000
                                                                Re: OT: About OS/2 Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 14:25 -0500
                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nobody <nobodysaysitalldoesntit@nobo.org> - 2018-11-06 18:14 -0500
                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-06 20:01 -0500
                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 19:06 +0000
                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-06 14:13 -0500
                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends   it to Chinese server "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-07 18:58 +0000
                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-07 18:04 -0500
                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-07 17:13 -0800
                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2018-11-08 14:58 -0800
                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 21:19 -0500
                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 21:25 -0500
                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-07 09:25 -0500
                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 09:33 -0400
                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-07 10:44 -0500
                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 11:13 -0400
                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-07 08:43 -0800
                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 11:46 -0400
                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-07 11:51 -0500
                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 12:05 -0400
                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-07 12:36 -0500
                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 13:11 -0400
                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 12:41 -0600
                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-07 14:23 -0500
                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 00:33 -0400
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 09:20 -0500
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 10:49 -0400
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-08 10:13 -0800
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 07:45 -0700
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 14:12 -0500
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 14:22 -0500
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 13:22 -0700
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 16:30 -0500
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 19:00 -0700
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 21:52 -0500
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 20:10 -0700
                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 22:16 -0500
                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 20:18 -0700
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 21:09 -0500
                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-08 10:06 -0800
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 15:00 -0500
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-08 12:37 -0800
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 19:08 -0500
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-08 16:19 -0800
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 21:52 -0500
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 14:31 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-09 11:56 -0800
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 15:51 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 17:11 -0500
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 19:25 -0500
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 21:52 -0500
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 16:30 -0500
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 21:12 -0500
                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-07 17:46 -0500
                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 00:33 -0400
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 08:58 -0500
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 10:49 -0400
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 21:03 -0500
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 21:52 -0500
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 22:13 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 20:22 -0700
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 20:06 -0700
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 22:19 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 21:29 -0700
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-10 08:38 -0500
                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-10 09:53 -0500
                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-10 11:13 -0700
                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-07 14:19 -0500
                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-07 13:51 -0700
                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 00:33 -0400
                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 07:47 -0700
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 10:49 -0400
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 09:15 -0700
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 11:57 -0400
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 11:09 -0700
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 13:23 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 12:14 -0700
                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-08 10:10 -0800
                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 00:33 -0400
                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 08:48 -0500
                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 09:33 -0500
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 10:49 -0400
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 11:56 -0600
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 13:23 -0500
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 21:07 -0500
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 21:52 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 22:06 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 20:11 -0700
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 22:19 -0500
                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 20:32 -0700
                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-09 09:54 +0000
                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-09 11:48 -0500
                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 11:45 -0700
                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-09 21:35 +0000
                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 12:01 -0700
                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-09 21:33 +0000
                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 15:13 -0700
                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-09 22:19 +0000
                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 15:23 -0700
                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-09 22:29 +0000
                                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 15:46 -0700
                                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-09 23:27 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 16:50 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-10 00:19 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 21:29 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-10 09:40 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-10 11:17 -0700
                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-09 17:59 -0500
                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 15:09 -0500
                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 15:20 -0700
                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 19:41 -0500
                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-10 00:51 +0000
                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 21:30 -0500
                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-10 18:14 +0000
                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-10 11:17 -0700
                                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-10 18:27 +0000
                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 21:26 -0700
                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-10 18:22 +0000
                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-10 18:56 -0700
                                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-11 12:09 +0000
                                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-11 16:08 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-11 16:38 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-11 17:26 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-11 18:01 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-11 11:30 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-11 18:53 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-11 12:54 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-11 21:03 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-11 14:52 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-11 22:26 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-11 15:39 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-11 19:26 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-12 02:43 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-11 20:45 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-11 20:43 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-12 09:03 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-12 12:08 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-12 13:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-12 18:33 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-13 08:53 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-12 16:35 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-12 14:22 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-12 22:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-13 08:51 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 23:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-13 19:51 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 13:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-15 09:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 16:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-15 12:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 17:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-15 12:49 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 18:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-15 13:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 18:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 19:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-15 14:32 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 19:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-15 15:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 21:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 20:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-15 13:49 -0500
                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-10 09:48 -0500
                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-10 11:16 -0700
                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-10 18:20 +0000
                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-10 18:57 -0700
                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-11 09:06 -0500
                                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-11 17:11 +0000
                                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-11 17:26 +0000
                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 21:27 -0700
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 14:57 -0500
                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 15:21 -0700
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 14:57 -0500
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-11-08 15:05 -0600
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 16:30 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-11-08 15:35 -0600
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 19:09 -0500
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-09 14:35 +0000
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 16:30 -0500
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 14:50 -0500
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 14:23 -0600
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 16:30 -0500
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 19:02 -0500
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 19:04 -0700
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 16:30 -0500
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 19:39 -0500
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 21:52 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 14:50 -0500
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2018-11-09 13:19 -0700
                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 17:11 -0500
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 17:11 -0500
                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 19:38 -0500
                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 20:08 -0500
                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 21:33 -0500
                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 22:22 -0500
                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-10 10:02 -0500
                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-10 13:55 -0500
                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 19:47 -0500
                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 20:08 -0500
                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 21:45 -0500
                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 22:22 -0500
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-09 14:53 +0000
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 10:20 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 09:29 -0600
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 15:13 -0500
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 20:56 -0500
                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 10:49 -0400
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 20:57 -0500
                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 09:05 -0500
                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-08 12:35 -0800
                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 16:30 -0500
                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 18:56 -0700
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 21:52 -0500
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 20:11 -0700
                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-07 12:41 -0500
                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 13:11 -0400
                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-07 11:47 -0700
                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-07 12:31 -0500
                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 13:11 -0400
                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-07 14:31 -0500
                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 00:33 -0400
                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 09:11 -0500
                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-07 17:55 -0500
                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 00:33 -0400
                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-12 16:11 +0000
                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-09-12 14:10 -0400
                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-12 18:35 +0000
    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 23:54 +0800

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#119460

FromSpooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid>
Date2018-11-11 16:38 +0000
Message-ID<ps9lth$nrm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119459
On 11 Nov 2018 16:08:24 GMT, Snit, tweeted:
> Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 18:56:10 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
>>> On 11/10/18 11:22 AM, Spooge wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 21:26:32 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
>>>>> On 11/9/18 5:51 PM, Spooge wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:41:04 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
>>>>>>> On 2018-11-09 17:20, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/9/18 1:09 PM, Wolf K wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2018-11-08 22:32, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/8/18 8:19 PM, nospam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <g4kc72FtqpiU3@mid.individual.net>, Snit
>>>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however, chromebooks are very strong in education.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And as a teacher, I have to admit that I made the choice to move to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chromebooks myself in the school I worked at a few years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They tend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to last longer than any PC and since they reset with each reboot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have to worry about security as much as you would a PC in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whatever PCs the schools do reset as well since they load the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system from scratch every time, but the boot process ends up being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insanely slow in contract to a generic Chromebook.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yep, and if a chromebook is damaged, simply replace it, the kid
>>>>>>>>>>>>> logs in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and all of his work is as it was before. they're also cheap enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it doesn't matter that much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheap enough if the school has money... which is sadly not a given.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> that is very true.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Schools in my district have no text books. It is insane.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You have local vote on school taxes, right? And minimal if any State
>>>>>>>>> support to compensate for low local taxes.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We have little funding for schools. From ANY source. Period. This is a
>>>>>>>> state-wide problem... which is not surprising given how it is a "red"
>>>>>>>> state. We have been listed as the number 50 state for being a teacher.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Too bad. I'm sure people use fundraisers etc to meliorate the bad
>>>>>>> effects of under funding, and I wish them all possible success.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> They fund vacant buildings, spend $24,000,000 on desegregation, yet have no
>>>>>> desegregation plan, got a teacher raise, went on strike for another raise,
>>>>>> though didn't strike over lack of books.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's all about the kids though.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cue bullshit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> What are you even trying to say?
>>>> 
>>>> That it isn't lack of funding, it's responsible, sensible spending of the
>>>> money the have.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> A claim you will never back. Fair enough.
>> 
>> You don't know how to do research?
>> One keyword is audit.
>> 
>>> 
>>> How about we fund our education system the same level we fund our military.
>>> 
>> 
>> We do better than that.
>> Federal, State, Local spending for 2016 (most accurate for state & local):
>> Defense-     $853,100,000,000
>> Education- $1,040,200,000,000
>> 
>> That idea of a quarter million at birth is sounding better all the time ;)
>> 
>
> Support? 

Uhm, look up.
That doesn't count lottery monies, which in one State I looked at (this is
just one State now) was over $400,000,000 in a year.
Another State was over $1,000,000,000 for one year.

I got bored researching that, so you are welcome to do your own research and
post your own results.

You undoubtedly were only thinking Federal money, which isn't where the
majority of funding comes from for education.

If I may be so bold to ask, what field of study do you specialize in?
Is it at Snowflake High School? (yes, that really is a school in AZ) LOL

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#119462

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-11-11 17:26 +0000
Message-ID<g4r72qFfmugU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119460
Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> wrote:
> On 11 Nov 2018 16:08:24 GMT, Snit, tweeted:
>> Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 18:56:10 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
>>>> On 11/10/18 11:22 AM, Spooge wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 21:26:32 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
>>>>>> On 11/9/18 5:51 PM, Spooge wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:41:04 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
>>>>>>>> On 2018-11-09 17:20, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/18 1:09 PM, Wolf K wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-11-08 22:32, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/8/18 8:19 PM, nospam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <g4kc72FtqpiU3@mid.individual.net>, Snit
>>>>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however, chromebooks are very strong in education.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And as a teacher, I have to admit that I made the choice to move to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chromebooks myself in the school I worked at a few years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They tend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to last longer than any PC and since they reset with each reboot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have to worry about security as much as you would a PC in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whatever PCs the schools do reset as well since they load the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system from scratch every time, but the boot process ends up being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insanely slow in contract to a generic Chromebook.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yep, and if a chromebook is damaged, simply replace it, the kid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logs in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and all of his work is as it was before. they're also cheap enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it doesn't matter that much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheap enough if the school has money... which is sadly not a given.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that is very true.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Schools in my district have no text books. It is insane.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You have local vote on school taxes, right? And minimal if any State
>>>>>>>>>> support to compensate for low local taxes.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We have little funding for schools. From ANY source. Period. This is a
>>>>>>>>> state-wide problem... which is not surprising given how it is a "red"
>>>>>>>>> state. We have been listed as the number 50 state for being a teacher.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Too bad. I'm sure people use fundraisers etc to meliorate the bad
>>>>>>>> effects of under funding, and I wish them all possible success.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> They fund vacant buildings, spend $24,000,000 on desegregation, yet have no
>>>>>>> desegregation plan, got a teacher raise, went on strike for another raise,
>>>>>>> though didn't strike over lack of books.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's all about the kids though.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cue bullshit.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What are you even trying to say?
>>>>> 
>>>>> That it isn't lack of funding, it's responsible, sensible spending of the
>>>>> money the have.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> A claim you will never back. Fair enough.
>>> 
>>> You don't know how to do research?
>>> One keyword is audit.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> How about we fund our education system the same level we fund our military.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> We do better than that.
>>> Federal, State, Local spending for 2016 (most accurate for state & local):
>>> Defense-     $853,100,000,000
>>> Education- $1,040,200,000,000
>>> 
>>> That idea of a quarter million at birth is sounding better all the time ;)
>>> 
>> 
>> Support? 
> 
> Uhm, look up.
> That doesn't count lottery monies, which in one State I looked at (this is
> just one State now) was over $400,000,000 in a year.
> Another State was over $1,000,000,000 for one year.
> 
> I got bored researching that, so you are welcome to do your own research and
> post your own results.
> 
> You undoubtedly were only thinking Federal money, which isn't where the
> majority of funding comes from for education.
> 
> If I may be so bold to ask, what field of study do you specialize in?
> Is it at Snowflake High School? (yes, that really is a school in AZ) LOL
> 

So you have no support. Got it. 

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#119465

FromSpooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid>
Date2018-11-11 18:01 +0000
Message-ID<ps9qpm$pn7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119462
On 11 Nov 2018 17:26:51 GMT, Snit, tweeted:
> Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> wrote:
>> On 11 Nov 2018 16:08:24 GMT, Snit, tweeted:
>>> Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 18:56:10 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
>>>>> On 11/10/18 11:22 AM, Spooge wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 21:26:32 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
>>>>>>> On 11/9/18 5:51 PM, Spooge wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:41:04 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
>>>>>>>>> On 2018-11-09 17:20, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/18 1:09 PM, Wolf K wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-11-08 22:32, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/8/18 8:19 PM, nospam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <g4kc72FtqpiU3@mid.individual.net>, Snit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however, chromebooks are very strong in education.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And as a teacher, I have to admit that I made the choice to move to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chromebooks myself in the school I worked at a few years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They tend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to last longer than any PC and since they reset with each reboot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have to worry about security as much as you would a PC in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whatever PCs the schools do reset as well since they load the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system from scratch every time, but the boot process ends up being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insanely slow in contract to a generic Chromebook.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yep, and if a chromebook is damaged, simply replace it, the kid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logs in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and all of his work is as it was before. they're also cheap enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it doesn't matter that much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheap enough if the school has money... which is sadly not a given.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is very true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Schools in my district have no text books. It is insane.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> You have local vote on school taxes, right? And minimal if any State
>>>>>>>>>>> support to compensate for low local taxes.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We have little funding for schools. From ANY source. Period. This is a
>>>>>>>>>> state-wide problem... which is not surprising given how it is a "red"
>>>>>>>>>> state. We have been listed as the number 50 state for being a teacher.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Too bad. I'm sure people use fundraisers etc to meliorate the bad
>>>>>>>>> effects of under funding, and I wish them all possible success.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> They fund vacant buildings, spend $24,000,000 on desegregation, yet have no
>>>>>>>> desegregation plan, got a teacher raise, went on strike for another raise,
>>>>>>>> though didn't strike over lack of books.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It's all about the kids though.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cue bullshit.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What are you even trying to say?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That it isn't lack of funding, it's responsible, sensible spending of the
>>>>>> money the have.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> A claim you will never back. Fair enough.
>>>> 
>>>> You don't know how to do research?
>>>> One keyword is audit.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> How about we fund our education system the same level we fund our military.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> We do better than that.
>>>> Federal, State, Local spending for 2016 (most accurate for state & local):
>>>> Defense-     $853,100,000,000
>>>> Education- $1,040,200,000,000
>>>> 
>>>> That idea of a quarter million at birth is sounding better all the time ;)
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Support? 
>> 
>> Uhm, look up.
>> That doesn't count lottery monies, which in one State I looked at (this is
>> just one State now) was over $400,000,000 in a year.
>> Another State was over $1,000,000,000 for one year.
>> 
>> I got bored researching that, so you are welcome to do your own research and
>> post your own results.
>> 
>> You undoubtedly were only thinking Federal money, which isn't where the
>> majority of funding comes from for education.
>> 
>> If I may be so bold to ask, what field of study do you specialize in?
>> Is it at Snowflake High School? (yes, that really is a school in AZ) LOL
>> 
>
> So you have no support. Got it. 

You lost, got it.
Only Health Care and government pensions cost more than education.
And guess what?
No matter what education they achieve, 10% will end up in Retail, 10%
will end up in a Service Industry.
22% may find a government job <--- this is the one to shoot for ;)

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#119468

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-11-11 11:30 -0700
Message-ID<g4raqcFghecU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119465
On 11/11/18 11:01 AM, Spooge wrote:
> On 11 Nov 2018 17:26:51 GMT, Snit, tweeted:
>> Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 11 Nov 2018 16:08:24 GMT, Snit, tweeted:
>>>> Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 18:56:10 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
>>>>>> On 11/10/18 11:22 AM, Spooge wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 21:26:32 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
>>>>>>>> On 11/9/18 5:51 PM, Spooge wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:41:04 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-11-09 17:20, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/18 1:09 PM, Wolf K wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-11-08 22:32, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/8/18 8:19 PM, nospam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <g4kc72FtqpiU3@mid.individual.net>, Snit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however, chromebooks are very strong in education.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And as a teacher, I have to admit that I made the choice to move to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chromebooks myself in the school I worked at a few years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They tend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to last longer than any PC and since they reset with each reboot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have to worry about security as much as you would a PC in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whatever PCs the schools do reset as well since they load the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system from scratch every time, but the boot process ends up being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insanely slow in contract to a generic Chromebook.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yep, and if a chromebook is damaged, simply replace it, the kid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logs in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and all of his work is as it was before. they're also cheap enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it doesn't matter that much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheap enough if the school has money... which is sadly not a given.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is very true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Schools in my district have no text books. It is insane.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You have local vote on school taxes, right? And minimal if any State
>>>>>>>>>>>> support to compensate for low local taxes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We have little funding for schools. From ANY source. Period. This is a
>>>>>>>>>>> state-wide problem... which is not surprising given how it is a "red"
>>>>>>>>>>> state. We have been listed as the number 50 state for being a teacher.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Too bad. I'm sure people use fundraisers etc to meliorate the bad
>>>>>>>>>> effects of under funding, and I wish them all possible success.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They fund vacant buildings, spend $24,000,000 on desegregation, yet have no
>>>>>>>>> desegregation plan, got a teacher raise, went on strike for another raise,
>>>>>>>>> though didn't strike over lack of books.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's all about the kids though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cue bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What are you even trying to say?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That it isn't lack of funding, it's responsible, sensible spending of the
>>>>>>> money the have.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A claim you will never back. Fair enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't know how to do research?
>>>>> One keyword is audit.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about we fund our education system the same level we fund our military.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We do better than that.
>>>>> Federal, State, Local spending for 2016 (most accurate for state & local):
>>>>> Defense-     $853,100,000,000
>>>>> Education- $1,040,200,000,000
>>>>>
>>>>> That idea of a quarter million at birth is sounding better all the time ;)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Support?
>>>
>>> Uhm, look up.
>>> That doesn't count lottery monies, which in one State I looked at (this is
>>> just one State now) was over $400,000,000 in a year.
>>> Another State was over $1,000,000,000 for one year.
>>>
>>> I got bored researching that, so you are welcome to do your own research and
>>> post your own results.
>>>
>>> You undoubtedly were only thinking Federal money, which isn't where the
>>> majority of funding comes from for education.
>>>
>>> If I may be so bold to ask, what field of study do you specialize in?
>>> Is it at Snowflake High School? (yes, that really is a school in AZ) LOL
>>>
>>
>> So you have no support. Got it.
> 
> You lost, got it.
> Only Health Care and government pensions cost more than education.
> And guess what?
> No matter what education they achieve, 10% will end up in Retail, 10%
> will end up in a Service Industry.
> 22% may find a government job <--- this is the one to shoot for ;)
> 

<https://www.businessinsider.com/education-military-spending-comparison-2016-9>
-----
One indicator of a nation's priorities lies in its federal budget. And 
by that logic, America's budget makes clear that we prioritize defense 
over all other expenditures — by a wide margin. In 2015, military 
expenditures accounted for about 54 percent of our discretionary 
spending, according to The National Priorities Project. In contrast, 
education accounted for only six percent of the budget.
...
If you factor those contributions in, the US spent about $880 billion on 
education in 2011, compared to $966 billion total on defense.
-----

No matter how you slice it, we put billions more toward the military 
than we do education.
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#119469

FromSpooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid>
Date2018-11-11 18:53 +0000
Message-ID<ps9ts2$euq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119468
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:30:35 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
> On 11/11/18 11:01 AM, Spooge wrote:
>> On 11 Nov 2018 17:26:51 GMT, Snit, tweeted:
>>> Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 11 Nov 2018 16:08:24 GMT, Snit, tweeted:
>>>>> Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 18:56:10 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
>>>>>>> On 11/10/18 11:22 AM, Spooge wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 21:26:32 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/18 5:51 PM, Spooge wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:41:04 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-11-09 17:20, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/18 1:09 PM, Wolf K wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-11-08 22:32, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/8/18 8:19 PM, nospam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <g4kc72FtqpiU3@mid.individual.net>, Snit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however, chromebooks are very strong in education.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And as a teacher, I have to admit that I made the choice to move to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chromebooks myself in the school I worked at a few years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They tend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to last longer than any PC and since they reset with each reboot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have to worry about security as much as you would a PC in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whatever PCs the schools do reset as well since they load the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system from scratch every time, but the boot process ends up being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insanely slow in contract to a generic Chromebook.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yep, and if a chromebook is damaged, simply replace it, the kid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logs in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and all of his work is as it was before. they're also cheap enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it doesn't matter that much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheap enough if the school has money... which is sadly not a given.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is very true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Schools in my district have no text books. It is insane.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have local vote on school taxes, right? And minimal if any State
>>>>>>>>>>>>> support to compensate for low local taxes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have little funding for schools. From ANY source. Period. This is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> state-wide problem... which is not surprising given how it is a "red"
>>>>>>>>>>>> state. We have been listed as the number 50 state for being a teacher.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad. I'm sure people use fundraisers etc to meliorate the bad
>>>>>>>>>>> effects of under funding, and I wish them all possible success.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They fund vacant buildings, spend $24,000,000 on desegregation, yet have no
>>>>>>>>>> desegregation plan, got a teacher raise, went on strike for another raise,
>>>>>>>>>> though didn't strike over lack of books.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's all about the kids though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cue bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What are you even trying to say?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That it isn't lack of funding, it's responsible, sensible spending of the
>>>>>>>> money the have.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A claim you will never back. Fair enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't know how to do research?
>>>>>> One keyword is audit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How about we fund our education system the same level we fund our military.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We do better than that.
>>>>>> Federal, State, Local spending for 2016 (most accurate for state & local):
>>>>>> Defense-     $853,100,000,000
>>>>>> Education- $1,040,200,000,000
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That idea of a quarter million at birth is sounding better all the time ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Support?
>>>>
>>>> Uhm, look up.
>>>> That doesn't count lottery monies, which in one State I looked at (this is
>>>> just one State now) was over $400,000,000 in a year.
>>>> Another State was over $1,000,000,000 for one year.
>>>>
>>>> I got bored researching that, so you are welcome to do your own research and
>>>> post your own results.
>>>>
>>>> You undoubtedly were only thinking Federal money, which isn't where the
>>>> majority of funding comes from for education.
>>>>
>>>> If I may be so bold to ask, what field of study do you specialize in?
>>>> Is it at Snowflake High School? (yes, that really is a school in AZ) LOL
>>>>
>>>
>>> So you have no support. Got it.
>> 
>> You lost, got it.
>> Only Health Care and government pensions cost more than education.
>> And guess what?
>> No matter what education they achieve, 10% will end up in Retail, 10%
>> will end up in a Service Industry.
>> 22% may find a government job <--- this is the one to shoot for ;)
>> 
>
><https://www.businessinsider.com/education-military-spending-comparison-2016-9>
> -----
> One indicator of a nation's priorities lies in its federal budget. And 
> by that logic, America's budget makes clear that we prioritize defense 
> over all other expenditures — by a wide margin. In 2015, military 
> expenditures accounted for about 54 percent of our discretionary 
> spending, according to The National Priorities Project. In contrast, 
> education accounted for only six percent of the budget.

That is _Federal_ money.
Most education funding comes at the State, Local level.

The National Priorities Project... LOL... that doesn't sound like a
special interest group, does it ;)
Funny how the Obama's are pictured there :)

> ...
> If you factor those contributions in, the US spent about $880 billion on 
> education in 2011, compared to $966 billion total on defense.
> -----

Those "factors" are state, local taxes, dummy.

2011:
Education- $931 billion.
Defense- $929 billion.

> No matter how you slice it, we put billions more toward the military 
> than we do education.

At the federal level, yes, that's their job.
Nationally, education spending exceeds military spending.
I posted that previously, I knew you didn't understand where education
money comes from.

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#119470

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-11-11 12:54 -0700
Message-ID<g4rfoeFhiefU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119469
On 11/11/18 11:53 AM, Spooge wrote:
...
>>>>>>>> How about we fund our education system the same level we fund our military.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We do better than that.
>>>>>>> Federal, State, Local spending for 2016 (most accurate for state & local):
>>>>>>> Defense-     $853,100,000,000
>>>>>>> Education- $1,040,200,000,000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That idea of a quarter million at birth is sounding better all the time ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Support?
>>>>>
>>>>> Uhm, look up.
>>>>> That doesn't count lottery monies, which in one State I looked at (this is
>>>>> just one State now) was over $400,000,000 in a year.
>>>>> Another State was over $1,000,000,000 for one year.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got bored researching that, so you are welcome to do your own research and
>>>>> post your own results.
>>>>>
>>>>> You undoubtedly were only thinking Federal money, which isn't where the
>>>>> majority of funding comes from for education.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I may be so bold to ask, what field of study do you specialize in?
>>>>> Is it at Snowflake High School? (yes, that really is a school in AZ) LOL
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So you have no support. Got it.
>>>
>>> You lost, got it.
>>> Only Health Care and government pensions cost more than education.
>>> And guess what?
>>> No matter what education they achieve, 10% will end up in Retail, 10%
>>> will end up in a Service Industry.
>>> 22% may find a government job <--- this is the one to shoot for ;)
>>>
>>
>> <https://www.businessinsider.com/education-military-spending-comparison-2016-9>
>> -----
>> One indicator of a nation's priorities lies in its federal budget. And
>> by that logic, America's budget makes clear that we prioritize defense
>> over all other expenditures — by a wide margin. In 2015, military
>> expenditures accounted for about 54 percent of our discretionary
>> spending, according to The National Priorities Project. In contrast,
>> education accounted for only six percent of the budget.
> 
> That is _Federal_ money.
> Most education funding comes at the State, Local level.
> 
> The National Priorities Project... LOL... that doesn't sound like a
> special interest group, does it ;)
> Funny how the Obama's are pictured there :)
> 
>> ...
>> If you factor those contributions in, the US spent about $880 billion on
>> education in 2011, compared to $966 billion total on defense.
>> -----
> 
> Those "factors" are state, local taxes, dummy.
> 
> 2011:
> Education- $931 billion.
> Defense- $929 billion.
> 
>> No matter how you slice it, we put billions more toward the military
>> than we do education.
> 
> At the federal level, yes, that's their job.
> Nationally, education spending exceeds military spending.

A claim you have not backed.

> I posted that previously, I knew you didn't understand where education
> money comes from.

You have posted zero support. Nor will you.


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somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

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#119472

FromSpooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid>
Date2018-11-11 21:03 +0000
Message-ID<psa5ea$23p$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119470
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 12:54:54 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
> On 11/11/18 11:53 AM, Spooge wrote:
> ...
>>>>>>>>> How about we fund our education system the same level we fund our military.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We do better than that.
>>>>>>>> Federal, State, Local spending for 2016 (most accurate for state & local):
>>>>>>>> Defense-     $853,100,000,000
>>>>>>>> Education- $1,040,200,000,000
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That idea of a quarter million at birth is sounding better all the time ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Support?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uhm, look up.
>>>>>> That doesn't count lottery monies, which in one State I looked at (this is
>>>>>> just one State now) was over $400,000,000 in a year.
>>>>>> Another State was over $1,000,000,000 for one year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got bored researching that, so you are welcome to do your own research and
>>>>>> post your own results.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You undoubtedly were only thinking Federal money, which isn't where the
>>>>>> majority of funding comes from for education.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I may be so bold to ask, what field of study do you specialize in?
>>>>>> Is it at Snowflake High School? (yes, that really is a school in AZ) LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So you have no support. Got it.
>>>>
>>>> You lost, got it.
>>>> Only Health Care and government pensions cost more than education.
>>>> And guess what?
>>>> No matter what education they achieve, 10% will end up in Retail, 10%
>>>> will end up in a Service Industry.
>>>> 22% may find a government job <--- this is the one to shoot for ;)
>>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.businessinsider.com/education-military-spending-comparison-2016-9>
>>> -----
>>> One indicator of a nation's priorities lies in its federal budget. And
>>> by that logic, America's budget makes clear that we prioritize defense
>>> over all other expenditures — by a wide margin. In 2015, military
>>> expenditures accounted for about 54 percent of our discretionary
>>> spending, according to The National Priorities Project. In contrast,
>>> education accounted for only six percent of the budget.
>> 
>> That is _Federal_ money.
>> Most education funding comes at the State, Local level.
>> 
>> The National Priorities Project... LOL... that doesn't sound like a
>> special interest group, does it ;)
>> Funny how the Obama's are pictured there :)
>> 
>>> ...
>>> If you factor those contributions in, the US spent about $880 billion on
>>> education in 2011, compared to $966 billion total on defense.
>>> -----
>> 
>> Those "factors" are state, local taxes, dummy.
>> 
>> 2011:
>> Education- $931 billion.
>> Defense- $929 billion.
>> 
>>> No matter how you slice it, we put billions more toward the military
>>> than we do education.
>> 
>> At the federal level, yes, that's their job.
>> Nationally, education spending exceeds military spending.
>
> A claim you have not backed.

For the State of Arizona, sources of revenue are:
Federal-13%
State---49%
Local---38%

I don't have to back it ... look it up :)

>> I posted that previously, I knew you didn't understand where education
>> money comes from.
>
> You have posted zero support. Nor will you.

I told you to do your own research.

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#119473

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-11-11 14:52 -0700
Message-ID<g4rml0Fj2f4U5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119472
On 11/11/18 2:03 PM, Spooge wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 12:54:54 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
>> On 11/11/18 11:53 AM, Spooge wrote:
>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> How about we fund our education system the same level we fund our military.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We do better than that.
>>>>>>>>> Federal, State, Local spending for 2016 (most accurate for state & local):
>>>>>>>>> Defense-     $853,100,000,000
>>>>>>>>> Education- $1,040,200,000,000
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That idea of a quarter million at birth is sounding better all the time ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Support?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Uhm, look up.
>>>>>>> That doesn't count lottery monies, which in one State I looked at (this is
>>>>>>> just one State now) was over $400,000,000 in a year.
>>>>>>> Another State was over $1,000,000,000 for one year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I got bored researching that, so you are welcome to do your own research and
>>>>>>> post your own results.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You undoubtedly were only thinking Federal money, which isn't where the
>>>>>>> majority of funding comes from for education.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I may be so bold to ask, what field of study do you specialize in?
>>>>>>> Is it at Snowflake High School? (yes, that really is a school in AZ) LOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you have no support. Got it.
>>>>>
>>>>> You lost, got it.
>>>>> Only Health Care and government pensions cost more than education.
>>>>> And guess what?
>>>>> No matter what education they achieve, 10% will end up in Retail, 10%
>>>>> will end up in a Service Industry.
>>>>> 22% may find a government job <--- this is the one to shoot for ;)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.businessinsider.com/education-military-spending-comparison-2016-9>
>>>> -----
>>>> One indicator of a nation's priorities lies in its federal budget. And
>>>> by that logic, America's budget makes clear that we prioritize defense
>>>> over all other expenditures — by a wide margin. In 2015, military
>>>> expenditures accounted for about 54 percent of our discretionary
>>>> spending, according to The National Priorities Project. In contrast,
>>>> education accounted for only six percent of the budget.
>>>
>>> That is _Federal_ money.
>>> Most education funding comes at the State, Local level.
>>>
>>> The National Priorities Project... LOL... that doesn't sound like a
>>> special interest group, does it ;)
>>> Funny how the Obama's are pictured there :)
>>>
>>>> ...
>>>> If you factor those contributions in, the US spent about $880 billion on
>>>> education in 2011, compared to $966 billion total on defense.
>>>> -----
>>>
>>> Those "factors" are state, local taxes, dummy.
>>>
>>> 2011:
>>> Education- $931 billion.
>>> Defense- $929 billion.
>>>
>>>> No matter how you slice it, we put billions more toward the military
>>>> than we do education.
>>>
>>> At the federal level, yes, that's their job.
>>> Nationally, education spending exceeds military spending.
>>
>> A claim you have not backed.
> 
> For the State of Arizona, sources of revenue are:
> Federal-13%
> State---49%
> Local---38%
> 
> I don't have to back it ... look it up :)
> 
>>> I posted that previously, I knew you didn't understand where education
>>> money comes from.
>>
>> You have posted zero support. Nor will you.
> 
> I told you to do your own research.
> 

So claims but no support... and then you ask me to do YOUR homework. No 
thanks.

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#119474

FromSpooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid>
Date2018-11-11 22:26 +0000
Message-ID<psaa9u$34q$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119473
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 14:52:32 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
> On 11/11/18 2:03 PM, Spooge wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 12:54:54 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
>>> On 11/11/18 11:53 AM, Spooge wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> How about we fund our education system the same level we fund our military.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We do better than that.
>>>>>>>>>> Federal, State, Local spending for 2016 (most accurate for state & local):
>>>>>>>>>> Defense-     $853,100,000,000
>>>>>>>>>> Education- $1,040,200,000,000
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That idea of a quarter million at birth is sounding better all the time ;)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Support?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Uhm, look up.
>>>>>>>> That doesn't count lottery monies, which in one State I looked at (this is
>>>>>>>> just one State now) was over $400,000,000 in a year.
>>>>>>>> Another State was over $1,000,000,000 for one year.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I got bored researching that, so you are welcome to do your own research and
>>>>>>>> post your own results.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You undoubtedly were only thinking Federal money, which isn't where the
>>>>>>>> majority of funding comes from for education.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I may be so bold to ask, what field of study do you specialize in?
>>>>>>>> Is it at Snowflake High School? (yes, that really is a school in AZ) LOL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you have no support. Got it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You lost, got it.
>>>>>> Only Health Care and government pensions cost more than education.
>>>>>> And guess what?
>>>>>> No matter what education they achieve, 10% will end up in Retail, 10%
>>>>>> will end up in a Service Industry.
>>>>>> 22% may find a government job <--- this is the one to shoot for ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.businessinsider.com/education-military-spending-comparison-2016-9>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> One indicator of a nation's priorities lies in its federal budget. And
>>>>> by that logic, America's budget makes clear that we prioritize defense
>>>>> over all other expenditures — by a wide margin. In 2015, military
>>>>> expenditures accounted for about 54 percent of our discretionary
>>>>> spending, according to The National Priorities Project. In contrast,
>>>>> education accounted for only six percent of the budget.

Not sure if you're aware of this misleading statement.

>>>> That is _Federal_ money.
>>>> Most education funding comes at the State, Local level.
>>>>
>>>> The National Priorities Project... LOL... that doesn't sound like a
>>>> special interest group, does it ;)
>>>> Funny how the Obama's are pictured there :)
>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>> If you factor those contributions in, the US spent about $880 billion on
>>>>> education in 2011, compared to $966 billion total on defense.
>>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>> Those "factors" are state, local taxes, dummy.
>>>>
>>>> 2011:
>>>> Education- $931 billion.
>>>> Defense- $929 billion.
>>>>
>>>>> No matter how you slice it, we put billions more toward the military
>>>>> than we do education.
>>>>
>>>> At the federal level, yes, that's their job.
>>>> Nationally, education spending exceeds military spending.
>>>
>>> A claim you have not backed.
>> 
>> For the State of Arizona, sources of revenue are:
>> Federal-13%
>> State---49%
>> Local---38%
>> 
>> I don't have to back it ... look it up :)
>> 
>>>> I posted that previously, I knew you didn't understand where education
>>>> money comes from.
>>>
>>> You have posted zero support. Nor will you.
>> 
>> I told you to do your own research.
>> 
>
> So claims but no support... and then you ask me to do YOUR homework. No 
> thanks.

That's fine.
I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but notice above
where I noted your misleading link.

To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
Why do you suppose they would do that.
As a percent of total spending, defense   is 12.5%.
As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.

Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates the military
percentage and understates the education percentage.

Naughty, naughty.

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#119475

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-11-11 15:39 -0700
Message-ID<g4rpdnFjmm2U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119474
On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 14:52:32 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
>> On 11/11/18 2:03 PM, Spooge wrote:
>>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 12:54:54 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
>>>> On 11/11/18 11:53 AM, Spooge wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> How about we fund our education system the same level we fund our military.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We do better than that.
>>>>>>>>>>> Federal, State, Local spending for 2016 (most accurate for state & local):
>>>>>>>>>>> Defense-     $853,100,000,000
>>>>>>>>>>> Education- $1,040,200,000,000
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That idea of a quarter million at birth is sounding better all the time ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Support?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Uhm, look up.
>>>>>>>>> That doesn't count lottery monies, which in one State I looked at (this is
>>>>>>>>> just one State now) was over $400,000,000 in a year.
>>>>>>>>> Another State was over $1,000,000,000 for one year.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I got bored researching that, so you are welcome to do your own research and
>>>>>>>>> post your own results.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You undoubtedly were only thinking Federal money, which isn't where the
>>>>>>>>> majority of funding comes from for education.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If I may be so bold to ask, what field of study do you specialize in?
>>>>>>>>> Is it at Snowflake High School? (yes, that really is a school in AZ) LOL
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So you have no support. Got it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You lost, got it.
>>>>>>> Only Health Care and government pensions cost more than education.
>>>>>>> And guess what?
>>>>>>> No matter what education they achieve, 10% will end up in Retail, 10%
>>>>>>> will end up in a Service Industry.
>>>>>>> 22% may find a government job <--- this is the one to shoot for ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.businessinsider.com/education-military-spending-comparison-2016-9>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> One indicator of a nation's priorities lies in its federal budget. And
>>>>>> by that logic, America's budget makes clear that we prioritize defense
>>>>>> over all other expenditures — by a wide margin. In 2015, military
>>>>>> expenditures accounted for about 54 percent of our discretionary
>>>>>> spending, according to The National Priorities Project. In contrast,
>>>>>> education accounted for only six percent of the budget.
> 
> Not sure if you're aware of this misleading statement.
> 
>>>>> That is _Federal_ money.
>>>>> Most education funding comes at the State, Local level.
>>>>>
>>>>> The National Priorities Project... LOL... that doesn't sound like a
>>>>> special interest group, does it ;)
>>>>> Funny how the Obama's are pictured there :)
>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> If you factor those contributions in, the US spent about $880 billion on
>>>>>> education in 2011, compared to $966 billion total on defense.
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>
>>>>> Those "factors" are state, local taxes, dummy.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011:
>>>>> Education- $931 billion.
>>>>> Defense- $929 billion.
>>>>>
>>>>>> No matter how you slice it, we put billions more toward the military
>>>>>> than we do education.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the federal level, yes, that's their job.
>>>>> Nationally, education spending exceeds military spending.
>>>>
>>>> A claim you have not backed.
>>>
>>> For the State of Arizona, sources of revenue are:
>>> Federal-13%
>>> State---49%
>>> Local---38%
>>>
>>> I don't have to back it ... look it up :)
>>>
>>>>> I posted that previously, I knew you didn't understand where education
>>>>> money comes from.
>>>>
>>>> You have posted zero support. Nor will you.
>>>
>>> I told you to do your own research.
>>>
>>
>> So claims but no support... and then you ask me to do YOUR homework. No
>> thanks.
> 
> That's fine.
> I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but notice above
> where I noted your misleading link.
> 
> To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
> Why do you suppose they would do that.
> As a percent of total spending, defense   is 12.5%.
> As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.
> 
> Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates the military
> percentage and understates the education percentage.
> 
> Naughty, naughty.
> 

You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.

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#119477

FromWolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
Date2018-11-11 19:26 -0500
Message-ID<5N3GD.597244$SN2.143806@fx38.iad>
In reply to#119475
On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
> On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
[...]
>> That's fine.
>> I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but notice 
>> above
>> where I noted your misleading link.
>>
>> To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
>> Why do you suppose they would do that.
>> As a percent of total spending, defense   is 12.5%.
>> As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.
>>
>> Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates the 
>> military
>> percentage and understates the education percentage.
>>
>> Naughty, naughty.
>>
> 
> You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.

I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_spending_on_education_(%25_of_GDP)

USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.
Canada spends 5.5% of GDP on education, and about 1.25% on defence.

Here are the tope 100 arms manufacturers in 2009 and 2010:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/02/arms-sales-top-100-producers

You'll note that 8 of the top 10 are American. I doubt that has changed 
much since 2010. Also, many of the non-US companies are subsidiaries of 
the larger US companies.

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#119478

FromSpooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid>
Date2018-11-12 02:43 +0000
Message-ID<psapcp$eb9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119477
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 19:26:39 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
> On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
>> On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
> [...]
>>> That's fine.
>>> I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but notice 
>>> above
>>> where I noted your misleading link.
>>>
>>> To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
>>> Why do you suppose they would do that.
>>> As a percent of total spending, defense   is 12.5%.
>>> As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.
>>>
>>> Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates the 
>>> military
>>> percentage and understates the education percentage.
>>>
>>> Naughty, naughty.
>>>
>> 
>> You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.
>
> I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_spending_on_education_(%25_of_GDP)
>
> USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.

Snit ain't gonna like that :)

> Canada spends 5.5% of GDP on education, and about 1.25% on defence.

Snit's gonna emigrate.

> Here are the tope 100 arms manufacturers in 2009 and 2010:
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/02/arms-sales-top-100-producers
>
> You'll note that 8 of the top 10 are American. I doubt that has changed 
> much since 2010. Also, many of the non-US companies are subsidiaries of 
> the larger US companies.
>

We seem to have 120guns/100people.
Ya'll have 32guns/100people.

We're number 1.
Ya'll range from 2 - 13 , depending on who you want to believe.

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#119482

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-11-11 20:45 -0700
Message-ID<g4sba8Fn98hU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119478
On 11/11/18 7:43 PM, Spooge wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 19:26:39 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
>> On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
>>> On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> That's fine.
>>>> I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but notice
>>>> above
>>>> where I noted your misleading link.
>>>>
>>>> To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
>>>> Why do you suppose they would do that.
>>>> As a percent of total spending, defense   is 12.5%.
>>>> As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.
>>>>
>>>> Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates the
>>>> military
>>>> percentage and understates the education percentage.
>>>>
>>>> Naughty, naughty.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.
>>
>> I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_spending_on_education_(%25_of_GDP)
>>
>> USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.
> 
> Snit ain't gonna like that :)

I saw his post -- and responded to it -- first. Note how poorly you 
predict my response. You understand me poorly. Fair enough.

>> Canada spends 5.5% of GDP on education, and about 1.25% on defence.
> 
> Snit's gonna emigrate.

It is possible, though not any time soon.

>> Here are the tope 100 arms manufacturers in 2009 and 2010:
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/02/arms-sales-top-100-producers
>>
>> You'll note that 8 of the top 10 are American. I doubt that has changed
>> much since 2010. Also, many of the non-US companies are subsidiaries of
>> the larger US companies.
>>
> 
> We seem to have 120guns/100people.
> Ya'll have 32guns/100people.
> 
> We're number 1.
> Ya'll range from 2 - 13 , depending on who you want to believe.
> 


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#119481

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-11-11 20:43 -0700
Message-ID<g4sb7fFn98hU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119477
On 11/11/18 5:26 PM, Wolf K wrote:
> On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
>> On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
> [...]
>>> That's fine.
>>> I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but 
>>> notice above
>>> where I noted your misleading link.
>>>
>>> To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
>>> Why do you suppose they would do that.
>>> As a percent of total spending, defense   is 12.5%.
>>> As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.
>>>
>>> Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates the 
>>> military
>>> percentage and understates the education percentage.
>>>
>>> Naughty, naughty.
>>>
>>
>> You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.
> 
> I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_spending_on_education_(%25_of_GDP) 
> 
> 
> USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.

Military:
#1 in the world, based on data from 2018.

I will admit my guess, though, would have been higher than 3.1% for 
defense. Still very high.

Education:
#58 in the world, based on data from 2013.

And our trend has been downward in education:
<https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SE.XPD.TOTL.GD.ZS?end=2014&locations=US&start=2010&view=chart> 


Used to be closer to what you show for Canada.

> Canada spends 5.5% of GDP on education, and about 1.25% on defence.
Best data I have seen anyone else post. Thank you. Not from the same 
year, which does add some confounding factors, BUT the data seems 
reasonably solid. And it also puts it into context of how much we spend 
compared to others. As you note, Canada does a MUCH better job on 
focusing on education (though I think we can also safely say the US has 
more reason to put money into defense).

> Here are the tope 100 arms manufacturers in 2009 and 2010:
> 
> https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/02/arms-sales-top-100-producers 
> 
> You'll note that 8 of the top 10 are American. I doubt that has changed 
> much since 2010. Also, many of the non-US companies are subsidiaries of 
> the larger US companies.

Not sure the connection you are trying to make here.


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#119496

FromWolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
Date2018-11-12 09:03 -0500
Message-ID<9LfGD.189850$MJ2.45434@fx12.iad>
In reply to#119481
On 2018-11-11 22:43, Snit wrote:
> On 11/11/18 5:26 PM, Wolf K wrote:
>> On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
>>> On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> That's fine.
>>>> I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but 
>>>> notice above
>>>> where I noted your misleading link.
>>>>
>>>> To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
>>>> Why do you suppose they would do that.
>>>> As a percent of total spending, defense   is 12.5%.
>>>> As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.
>>>>
>>>> Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates the 
>>>> military
>>>> percentage and understates the education percentage.
>>>>
>>>> Naughty, naughty.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.
>>
>> I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_spending_on_education_(%25_of_GDP) 
>>
>>
>> USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.
> 
> Military:
> #1 in the world, based on data from 2018.
> 
> I will admit my guess, though, would have been higher than 3.1% for 
> defense. Still very high.
> 
> Education:
> #58 in the world, based on data from 2013.
> 
> And our trend has been downward in education:
> <https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SE.XPD.TOTL.GD.ZS?end=2014&locations=US&start=2010&view=chart> 
> 
> 
> Used to be closer to what you show for Canada.
> 
>> Canada spends 5.5% of GDP on education, and about 1.25% on defence.
> Best data I have seen anyone else post. Thank you. Not from the same 
> year, which does add some confounding factors, BUT the data seems 
> reasonably solid. And it also puts it into context of how much we spend 
> compared to others. As you note, Canada does a MUCH better job on 
> focusing on education (though I think we can also safely say the US has 
> more reason to put money into defense).
> 
>> Here are the tope 100 arms manufacturers in 2009 and 2010:
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/02/arms-sales-top-100-producers 
>>
>> You'll note that 8 of the top 10 are American. I doubt that has 
>> changed much since 2010. Also, many of the non-US companies are 
>> subsidiaries of the larger US companies.
> 
> Not sure the connection you are trying to make here.

When Donald Trump complains about underspending on defence by other NATO 
nations, IMO the context is that a large chunk of that spending is for 
US made weapons.


-- 
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kirkwood40.blogspot.com
"Genetics is not genealogy." (Graham Coop, Ph.D.)

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#119498

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-11-12 12:08 -0500
Message-ID<tsiGD.310942$SG2.148952@fx29.iad>
In reply to#119496
On 2018-11-12 9:03 a.m., Wolf K wrote:
> On 2018-11-11 22:43, Snit wrote:
>> On 11/11/18 5:26 PM, Wolf K wrote:
>>> On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> That's fine.
>>>>> I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but 
>>>>> notice above
>>>>> where I noted your misleading link.
>>>>>
>>>>> To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
>>>>> Why do you suppose they would do that.
>>>>> As a percent of total spending, defense   is 12.5%.
>>>>> As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates the 
>>>>> military
>>>>> percentage and understates the education percentage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Naughty, naughty.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.
>>>
>>> I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_spending_on_education_(%25_of_GDP) 
>>>
>>>
>>> USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.
>>
>> Military:
>> #1 in the world, based on data from 2018.
>>
>> I will admit my guess, though, would have been higher than 3.1% for 
>> defense. Still very high.
>>
>> Education:
>> #58 in the world, based on data from 2013.
>>
>> And our trend has been downward in education:
>> <https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SE.XPD.TOTL.GD.ZS?end=2014&locations=US&start=2010&view=chart> 
>>
>>
>> Used to be closer to what you show for Canada.
>>
>>> Canada spends 5.5% of GDP on education, and about 1.25% on defence.
>> Best data I have seen anyone else post. Thank you. Not from the same 
>> year, which does add some confounding factors, BUT the data seems 
>> reasonably solid. And it also puts it into context of how much we 
>> spend compared to others. As you note, Canada does a MUCH better job 
>> on focusing on education (though I think we can also safely say the US 
>> has more reason to put money into defense).
>>
>>> Here are the tope 100 arms manufacturers in 2009 and 2010:
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/02/arms-sales-top-100-producers 
>>>
>>> You'll note that 8 of the top 10 are American. I doubt that has 
>>> changed much since 2010. Also, many of the non-US companies are 
>>> subsidiaries of the larger US companies.
>>
>> Not sure the connection you are trying to make here.
> 
> When Donald Trump complains about underspending on defence by other NATO 
> nations, IMO the context is that a large chunk of that spending is for 
> US made weapons.

No, his meaning is that the European nations which were at some point 
"saved" by American presence in the continent during the Cold War are 
all now taking it for granted and deciding that they don't need to pay 
into it. While Europe, at one point, was rebuilding and couldn't afford 
to provide its own protection (hence, the Marshall Plan), they now have 
the means and the funds to do so and should at least assist the United 
States in paying for the protection especially since they will be solely 
responsible for the next, religious conflict to come (Christians/Jews 
vs. Muslims and their useful idiot atheists created by their decision to 
"tolerate" murderous invaders from Africa and the Middle East).

I know that Poland have stepped forward to help foot the bill but who else?

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Minds: @silverslimer

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#119501

FromWolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
Date2018-11-12 13:40 -0500
Message-ID<aOjGD.806284$3L2.157430@fx44.iad>
In reply to#119498
On 2018-11-12 12:08, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On 2018-11-12 9:03 a.m., Wolf K wrote:
>> On 2018-11-11 22:43, Snit wrote:
>>> On 11/11/18 5:26 PM, Wolf K wrote:
>>>> On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>>>> That's fine.
>>>>>> I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but 
>>>>>> notice above
>>>>>> where I noted your misleading link.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
>>>>>> Why do you suppose they would do that.
>>>>>> As a percent of total spending, defense   is 12.5%.
>>>>>> As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates the 
>>>>>> military
>>>>>> percentage and understates the education percentage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Naughty, naughty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.
>>>>
>>>> I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_spending_on_education_(%25_of_GDP) 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.
>>>
>>> Military:
>>> #1 in the world, based on data from 2018.
>>>
>>> I will admit my guess, though, would have been higher than 3.1% for 
>>> defense. Still very high.
>>>
>>> Education:
>>> #58 in the world, based on data from 2013.
>>>
>>> And our trend has been downward in education:
>>> <https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SE.XPD.TOTL.GD.ZS?end=2014&locations=US&start=2010&view=chart> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Used to be closer to what you show for Canada.
>>>
>>>> Canada spends 5.5% of GDP on education, and about 1.25% on defence.
>>> Best data I have seen anyone else post. Thank you. Not from the same 
>>> year, which does add some confounding factors, BUT the data seems 
>>> reasonably solid. And it also puts it into context of how much we 
>>> spend compared to others. As you note, Canada does a MUCH better job 
>>> on focusing on education (though I think we can also safely say the 
>>> US has more reason to put money into defense).
>>>
>>>> Here are the tope 100 arms manufacturers in 2009 and 2010:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/02/arms-sales-top-100-producers 
>>>>
>>>> You'll note that 8 of the top 10 are American. I doubt that has 
>>>> changed much since 2010. Also, many of the non-US companies are 
>>>> subsidiaries of the larger US companies.
>>>
>>> Not sure the connection you are trying to make here.
>>
>> When Donald Trump complains about underspending on defence by other 
>> NATO nations, IMO the context is that a large chunk of that spending 
>> is for US made weapons.
> 
> No, his meaning is that the European nations which were at some point 
> "saved" by American presence in the continent during the Cold War are 
> all now taking it for granted and deciding that they don't need to pay 
> into it. While Europe, at one point, was rebuilding and couldn't afford 
> to provide its own protection (hence, the Marshall Plan), they now have 
> the means and the funds to do so and should at least assist the United 
> States in paying for the protection especially since they will be solely 
> responsible for the next, religious conflict to come (Christians/Jews 
> vs. Muslims and their useful idiot atheists created by their decision to 
> "tolerate" murderous invaders from Africa and the Middle East).
> 
> I know that Poland have stepped forward to help foot the bill but who else?
> 

You obviously know a lot of Muslims.

-- 
Wolf K
kirkwood40.blogspot.com
"Genetics is not genealogy." (Graham Coop, Ph.D.)

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#119508

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-11-12 18:33 -0500
Message-ID<S4oGD.587777$MK2.167328@fx35.iad>
In reply to#119501
On 2018-11-12 1:40 p.m., Wolf K wrote:
> On 2018-11-12 12:08, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> On 2018-11-12 9:03 a.m., Wolf K wrote:
>>> On 2018-11-11 22:43, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 11/11/18 5:26 PM, Wolf K wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> That's fine.
>>>>>>> I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but 
>>>>>>> notice above
>>>>>>> where I noted your misleading link.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
>>>>>>> Why do you suppose they would do that.
>>>>>>> As a percent of total spending, defense   is 12.5%.
>>>>>>> As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates 
>>>>>>> the military
>>>>>>> percentage and understates the education percentage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Naughty, naughty.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_spending_on_education_(%25_of_GDP) 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.
>>>>
>>>> Military:
>>>> #1 in the world, based on data from 2018.
>>>>
>>>> I will admit my guess, though, would have been higher than 3.1% for 
>>>> defense. Still very high.
>>>>
>>>> Education:
>>>> #58 in the world, based on data from 2013.
>>>>
>>>> And our trend has been downward in education:
>>>> <https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SE.XPD.TOTL.GD.ZS?end=2014&locations=US&start=2010&view=chart> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Used to be closer to what you show for Canada.
>>>>
>>>>> Canada spends 5.5% of GDP on education, and about 1.25% on defence.
>>>> Best data I have seen anyone else post. Thank you. Not from the same 
>>>> year, which does add some confounding factors, BUT the data seems 
>>>> reasonably solid. And it also puts it into context of how much we 
>>>> spend compared to others. As you note, Canada does a MUCH better job 
>>>> on focusing on education (though I think we can also safely say the 
>>>> US has more reason to put money into defense).
>>>>
>>>>> Here are the tope 100 arms manufacturers in 2009 and 2010:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/02/arms-sales-top-100-producers 
>>>>>
>>>>> You'll note that 8 of the top 10 are American. I doubt that has 
>>>>> changed much since 2010. Also, many of the non-US companies are 
>>>>> subsidiaries of the larger US companies.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure the connection you are trying to make here.
>>>
>>> When Donald Trump complains about underspending on defence by other 
>>> NATO nations, IMO the context is that a large chunk of that spending 
>>> is for US made weapons.
>>
>> No, his meaning is that the European nations which were at some point 
>> "saved" by American presence in the continent during the Cold War are 
>> all now taking it for granted and deciding that they don't need to pay 
>> into it. While Europe, at one point, was rebuilding and couldn't 
>> afford to provide its own protection (hence, the Marshall Plan), they 
>> now have the means and the funds to do so and should at least assist 
>> the United States in paying for the protection especially since they 
>> will be solely responsible for the next, religious conflict to come 
>> (Christians/Jews vs. Muslims and their useful idiot atheists created 
>> by their decision to "tolerate" murderous invaders from Africa and the 
>> Middle East).
>>
>> I know that Poland have stepped forward to help foot the bill but who 
>> else?
>>
> 
> You obviously know a lot of Muslims.

I do, actually. The reality is that while a handful of Muslims might 
actually be peace-loving and desire to be a part of the community, once 
their numbers swell, that desire for peace quickly turns into a desire 
to change the host country into one which follows the Islamic belief. At 
first they ask for tolerance, then concessions for their faith and soon 
they're demanding that we all adapt to them rather than the other way 
around. We've seen it in a number of Western countries to the point that 
some of them are avoided altogether by tourists (France, for instance) 
and there is no reason whatsoever to believe that they will somehow do 
differently in Canada and in the United States. They've already demanded 
all sorts of changes in Canada, none of them reported by the media which 
seeks to protect them, yet those changes still happened.

As a fellow Canadian, I'm sure you feel fantastic knowing that Trudeau 
has already given away millions to _convicted_ terrorists and that he is 
willing to pay taxpayer money to bring in yet another who has been 
deemed unfit for England and who isn't even a Canadian citizen. Our 
beloeved man-child of a Prime Minister will bend over backwards for the 
people who seek to take over our country and eventually put a sword to 
our throats but doesn't even bat an eye at the fact that Christians are 
systematically being slaughtered by these "peaceful," "wonderful" people 
in the Middle East.

So a big middle finger to you and your ignorant belief that these people 
as well as their faith is somehow peaceful. I actually read the Qu'ran 
and I doubt sincerely that you have so read it, IN REVERSE CHRONOLOGICAL 
ORDER to remove their pathetic encryption, and see for yourself what 
these pedophile-worshipping barbarians have planned for us all.

-- 
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Minds: @silverslimer

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#119528

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-11-13 08:53 -0700
Message-ID<g50ackFjjgkU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119508
On 11/12/18 4:33 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On 2018-11-12 1:40 p.m., Wolf K wrote:
>> On 2018-11-12 12:08, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>> On 2018-11-12 9:03 a.m., Wolf K wrote:
>>>> On 2018-11-11 22:43, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On 11/11/18 5:26 PM, Wolf K wrote:
>>>>>> On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>> That's fine.
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but 
>>>>>>>> notice above
>>>>>>>> where I noted your misleading link.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
>>>>>>>> Why do you suppose they would do that.
>>>>>>>> As a percent of total spending, defense   is 12.5%.
>>>>>>>> As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates 
>>>>>>>> the military
>>>>>>>> percentage and understates the education percentage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Naughty, naughty.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_spending_on_education_(%25_of_GDP) 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.
>>>>>
>>>>> Military:
>>>>> #1 in the world, based on data from 2018.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will admit my guess, though, would have been higher than 3.1% for 
>>>>> defense. Still very high.
>>>>>
>>>>> Education:
>>>>> #58 in the world, based on data from 2013.
>>>>>
>>>>> And our trend has been downward in education:
>>>>> <https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SE.XPD.TOTL.GD.ZS?end=2014&locations=US&start=2010&view=chart> 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Used to be closer to what you show for Canada.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Canada spends 5.5% of GDP on education, and about 1.25% on defence.
>>>>> Best data I have seen anyone else post. Thank you. Not from the 
>>>>> same year, which does add some confounding factors, BUT the data 
>>>>> seems reasonably solid. And it also puts it into context of how 
>>>>> much we spend compared to others. As you note, Canada does a MUCH 
>>>>> better job on focusing on education (though I think we can also 
>>>>> safely say the US has more reason to put money into defense).
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are the tope 100 arms manufacturers in 2009 and 2010:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/02/arms-sales-top-100-producers 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You'll note that 8 of the top 10 are American. I doubt that has 
>>>>>> changed much since 2010. Also, many of the non-US companies are 
>>>>>> subsidiaries of the larger US companies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure the connection you are trying to make here.
>>>>
>>>> When Donald Trump complains about underspending on defence by other 
>>>> NATO nations, IMO the context is that a large chunk of that spending 
>>>> is for US made weapons.
>>>
>>> No, his meaning is that the European nations which were at some point 
>>> "saved" by American presence in the continent during the Cold War are 
>>> all now taking it for granted and deciding that they don't need to 
>>> pay into it. While Europe, at one point, was rebuilding and couldn't 
>>> afford to provide its own protection (hence, the Marshall Plan), they 
>>> now have the means and the funds to do so and should at least assist 
>>> the United States in paying for the protection especially since they 
>>> will be solely responsible for the next, religious conflict to come 
>>> (Christians/Jews vs. Muslims and their useful idiot atheists created 
>>> by their decision to "tolerate" murderous invaders from Africa and 
>>> the Middle East).
>>>
>>> I know that Poland have stepped forward to help foot the bill but who 
>>> else?
>>>
>>
>> You obviously know a lot of Muslims.
> 
> I do, actually. The reality is that while a handful of Muslims might 
> actually be peace-loving and desire to be a part of the community, once 
> their numbers swell, that desire for peace quickly turns into a desire 
> to change the host country into one which follows the Islamic belief. 

Much as you push Christian beliefs.

> At 
> first they ask for tolerance, then concessions for their faith and soon 
> they're demanding that we all adapt to them rather than the other way 
> around. We've seen it in a number of Western countries to the point that 
> some of them are avoided altogether by tourists (France, for instance) 
> and there is no reason whatsoever to believe that they will somehow do 
> differently in Canada and in the United States. They've already demanded 
> all sorts of changes in Canada, none of them reported by the media which 
> seeks to protect them, yet those changes still happened.

Are you speaking of the Christians or the Muslims? Seems to apply to both.

> As a fellow Canadian, I'm sure you feel fantastic knowing that Trudeau 
> has already given away millions to _convicted_ terrorists and that he is 
> willing to pay taxpayer money to bring in yet another who has been 
> deemed unfit for England and who isn't even a Canadian citizen. Our 
> beloeved man-child of a Prime Minister will bend over backwards for the 
> people who seek to take over our country and eventually put a sword to 
> our throats but doesn't even bat an eye at the fact that Christians are 
> systematically being slaughtered by these "peaceful," "wonderful" people 
> in the Middle East.

He does not share your bigotry toward Muslims. Got it.

> So a big middle finger to you and your ignorant belief that these people 
> as well as their faith is somehow peaceful. I actually read the Qu'ran 
> and I doubt sincerely that you have so read it, IN REVERSE CHRONOLOGICAL 
> ORDER to remove their pathetic encryption, and see for yourself what 
> these pedophile-worshipping barbarians have planned for us all.

You pretend the Bible is somehow better than the Qu'ran... a demand for 
special entitlements for Christians.




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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#119497

FromSpooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid>
Date2018-11-12 16:35 +0000
Message-ID<psca3r$a9a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119481
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 20:43:42 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
> On 11/11/18 5:26 PM, Wolf K wrote:
>> On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
>>> On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> That's fine.
>>>> I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but 
>>>> notice above
>>>> where I noted your misleading link.
>>>>
>>>> To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
>>>> Why do you suppose they would do that.
>>>> As a percent of total spending, defense   is 12.5%.
>>>> As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.
>>>>
>>>> Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates the 
>>>> military
>>>> percentage and understates the education percentage.
>>>>
>>>> Naughty, naughty.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.
>> 
>> I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_spending_on_education_(%25_of_GDP) 
>> 
>> 
>> USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.
>
> Military:
> #1 in the world, based on data from 2018.

We are number one based on total spending, but since our GDP is huge, it isn't
surprising.

>
> I will admit my guess, though, would have been higher than 3.1% for 
> defense. Still very high.

Looks to be number 3.

> Education:
> #58 in the world, based on data from 2013.

We are not number 58 in the world.
We spend more than any other country, and rank high in spending/GDP.
Where we rank lowest is test scores.
Hmmm, wonder what that shows ;)

I'm not sure what the ordering of that list means.

> And our trend has been downward in education:
><https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SE.XPD.TOTL.GD.ZS?end=2014&locations=US&start=2010&view=chart> 
>
>
> Used to be closer to what you show for Canada.
>
>> Canada spends 5.5% of GDP on education, and about 1.25% on defence.
> Best data I have seen anyone else post. Thank you. Not from the same 
> year, which does add some confounding factors, BUT the data seems 
> reasonably solid. And it also puts it into context of how much we spend 
> compared to others. As you note, Canada does a MUCH better job on 
> focusing on education (though I think we can also safely say the US has 
> more reason to put money into defense).
>
>> Here are the tope 100 arms manufacturers in 2009 and 2010:
>> 
>> https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/02/arms-sales-top-100-producers 
>> 
>> You'll note that 8 of the top 10 are American. I doubt that has changed 
>> much since 2010. Also, many of the non-US companies are subsidiaries of 
>> the larger US companies.
>
> Not sure the connection you are trying to make here.

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