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No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server

Started byNomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com>
First post2018-09-09 00:32 +0200
Last post2018-09-09 23:54 +0800
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  No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-09-09 00:32 +0200
    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-09 17:19 +1200
      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-09-09 11:26 -0400
        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2018-11-06 09:14 -0500
          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-06 23:23 -0500
      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-09 18:17 +0000
        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-09 11:50 -0700
          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server anon <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-09-10 15:26 -0500
            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 13:34 -0700
            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 16:39 -0400
              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 17:34 -0700
            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server anon <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-09-10 16:56 -0500
              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-11 13:34 +1200
                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 18:39 -0700
                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-11 16:35 +1200
                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-11 06:51 -0500
                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-12 08:41 +1200
                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-11 14:42 -0700
                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-11 16:51 -0500
                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-11 14:55 -0700
                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-11 06:21 -0700
                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-12 08:46 +1200
                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-11 14:47 -0700
                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-12 13:47 +1200
                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-12 06:51 -0700
                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2018-11-06 09:21 -0500
                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2018-11-06 10:48 -0600
                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-06 11:59 -0400
                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server anon <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-09-10 20:39 -0500
                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-09-10 23:20 -0400
                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-11 16:30 +1200
                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-11 14:59 +0000
                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-09-11 17:08 -0500
                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-12 00:28 +0000
                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-09-11 20:46 -0500
                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-12 18:17 +1200
                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-09-12 19:34 -0500
                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 13:59 +0000
                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-09-13 16:57 -0500
                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 22:39 +0000
                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2018-09-14 20:13 -0700
                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-15 11:54 +0000
                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-09-15 08:41 -0400
                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-15 16:04 +0000
                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-15 15:55 +0000
                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2018-11-06 09:24 -0500
                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-06 15:53 +0000
                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-06 12:29 -0500
                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-06 12:34 -0400
                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-06 12:51 -0500
                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-06 12:55 -0400
                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-06 13:35 -0500
                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-06 11:17 -0800
                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-06 17:51 -0500
                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-06 15:05 -0800
                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-06 20:00 -0500
                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-06 17:29 -0800
                                                            OT: About OS/2 (Was:Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server) Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-07 09:16 -0500
                                                              Re: OT: About OS/2 (Was:Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server) SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-07 09:58 -0500
                                                              Re: OT: About OS/2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-09 19:07 +0000
                                                                Re: OT: About OS/2 Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 14:25 -0500
                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nobody <nobodysaysitalldoesntit@nobo.org> - 2018-11-06 18:14 -0500
                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-06 20:01 -0500
                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 19:06 +0000
                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-06 14:13 -0500
                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends   it to Chinese server "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-07 18:58 +0000
                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-07 18:04 -0500
                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-07 17:13 -0800
                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2018-11-08 14:58 -0800
                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 21:19 -0500
                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 21:25 -0500
                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-07 09:25 -0500
                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 09:33 -0400
                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-07 10:44 -0500
                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 11:13 -0400
                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-07 08:43 -0800
                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 11:46 -0400
                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-07 11:51 -0500
                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 12:05 -0400
                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-07 12:36 -0500
                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 13:11 -0400
                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 12:41 -0600
                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-07 14:23 -0500
                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 00:33 -0400
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 09:20 -0500
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 10:49 -0400
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-08 10:13 -0800
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 07:45 -0700
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 14:12 -0500
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 14:22 -0500
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 13:22 -0700
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 16:30 -0500
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 19:00 -0700
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 21:52 -0500
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 20:10 -0700
                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 22:16 -0500
                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 20:18 -0700
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 21:09 -0500
                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-08 10:06 -0800
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 15:00 -0500
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-08 12:37 -0800
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 19:08 -0500
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-08 16:19 -0800
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 21:52 -0500
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 14:31 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-09 11:56 -0800
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 15:51 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 17:11 -0500
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 19:25 -0500
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 21:52 -0500
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 16:30 -0500
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 21:12 -0500
                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-07 17:46 -0500
                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 00:33 -0400
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 08:58 -0500
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 10:49 -0400
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 21:03 -0500
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 21:52 -0500
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 22:13 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 20:22 -0700
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 20:06 -0700
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 22:19 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 21:29 -0700
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-10 08:38 -0500
                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-10 09:53 -0500
                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-10 11:13 -0700
                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-07 14:19 -0500
                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-07 13:51 -0700
                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 00:33 -0400
                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 07:47 -0700
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 10:49 -0400
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 09:15 -0700
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 11:57 -0400
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 11:09 -0700
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 13:23 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 12:14 -0700
                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-08 10:10 -0800
                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 00:33 -0400
                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 08:48 -0500
                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 09:33 -0500
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 10:49 -0400
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 11:56 -0600
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 13:23 -0500
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 21:07 -0500
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 21:52 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 22:06 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 20:11 -0700
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 22:19 -0500
                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 20:32 -0700
                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-09 09:54 +0000
                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-09 11:48 -0500
                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 11:45 -0700
                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-09 21:35 +0000
                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 12:01 -0700
                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-09 21:33 +0000
                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 15:13 -0700
                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-09 22:19 +0000
                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 15:23 -0700
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                                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 21:29 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-10 09:40 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-10 11:17 -0700
                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-09 17:59 -0500
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                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 19:41 -0500
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                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-10 11:17 -0700
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                                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-11 17:26 +0000
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                                                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-11 21:03 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-11 14:52 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-11 22:26 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-11 15:39 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-11 19:26 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-12 02:43 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-11 20:45 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-11 20:43 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-12 09:03 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-12 12:08 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-12 13:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-12 18:33 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-13 08:53 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-12 16:35 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-12 14:22 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-12 22:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-13 08:51 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 23:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-13 19:51 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 13:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-15 09:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 16:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-15 12:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 17:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-15 12:49 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 19:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-15 14:32 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 19:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-15 15:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 21:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 20:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-15 13:49 -0500
                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-10 09:48 -0500
                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-10 11:16 -0700
                                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-10 18:20 +0000
                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-10 18:57 -0700
                                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-11 09:06 -0500
                                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Spooge <sp00ge@goop.invalid> - 2018-11-11 17:11 +0000
                                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-11 17:26 +0000
                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 21:27 -0700
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 14:57 -0500
                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-09 15:21 -0700
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 14:57 -0500
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-11-08 15:05 -0600
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 16:30 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-11-08 15:35 -0600
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 19:09 -0500
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-09 14:35 +0000
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 16:30 -0500
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 14:50 -0500
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 14:23 -0600
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 16:30 -0500
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 19:02 -0500
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 19:04 -0700
                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 16:30 -0500
                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 19:39 -0500
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 21:52 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 14:50 -0500
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2018-11-09 13:19 -0700
                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 17:11 -0500
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 17:11 -0500
                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 19:38 -0500
                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 20:08 -0500
                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 21:33 -0500
                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 22:22 -0500
                                                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-10 10:02 -0500
                                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-10 13:55 -0500
                                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 19:47 -0500
                                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 20:08 -0500
                                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 21:45 -0500
                                                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 22:22 -0500
                                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-09 14:53 +0000
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 10:20 -0500
                                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 09:29 -0600
                                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-09 15:13 -0500
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 20:56 -0500
                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 10:49 -0400
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-08 20:57 -0500
                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 09:05 -0500
                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-08 12:35 -0800
                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 16:30 -0500
                                                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 18:56 -0700
                                                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 21:52 -0500
                                                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-08 20:11 -0700
                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-07 12:41 -0500
                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 13:11 -0400
                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-07 11:47 -0700
                                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-07 12:31 -0500
                                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 13:11 -0400
                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-07 14:31 -0500
                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 00:33 -0400
                                                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-08 09:11 -0500
                                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-07 17:55 -0500
                                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 00:33 -0400
                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-12 16:11 +0000
                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-09-12 14:10 -0400
                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-12 18:35 +0000
    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 23:54 +0800

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#119217

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-11-07 13:11 -0400
Message-ID<071120181311552902%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#119215
In article <SoFED.470277$um3.190179@fx32.iad>, SilverSlimer
<silver@slim.er> wrote:

> >> Windows was DOS with a pre-built menu system plus a few simple to use
> >> settings (such as customising the menus for different users). It was
> >> essentially useless until 3.x.
> > 
> > win 3.x was only slightly better than earlier versions. as i said,
> > windows '95 was when it was actually usable.
> 
> Not true, essentially since many companies at the time used Windows 3.11 
> for their businesses and some still use it to this day.

win 3.x was only slightly better than dos. it wasn't until win '95 when
windows took off because only then was it functionally better than what
existed before. 

put another way, win '95 caught up to where mac os was a decade earlier.

microsoft word and excel were on a mac long before they were on windows.


> >> There's more. FWIW, I preferred DOS over Windows, and OS/2 over both.
> >> I liked Mac OS, but didn't like Apple's unwillingness to permit device
> >> customisation beyond what they decided was acceptable. A DOS machine,
> >> and hence Windows, was almost infinitely customisable.
> > 
> > complete nonsense.
> > 
> > apple did not stop *anyone* from customizing anything, and in fact, mac
> > os was designed to be tweaked and modified in all sorts of ways, with
> > full documentation as to how to do it.
> > 
> > because of that, a whole category of mac software and hardware existed,
> > doing things not possible on dos or windows.
> 
> That must be why Steve Jobs specifically stated that he wanted the Mac 
> to have proprietary ports, no internal expansion slots and an operating 
> system which looked the same no matter whose machine you were using. In 
> other words, that must be why Jobs did the exact opposite of what 
> Wozniak did with the Apple ][ whereupon he insisted on forcing people to 
> upgrade a whole computer to get one or two additional functions.

he didn't say that, the ports weren't proprietary, and nobody had to
upgrade a whole computer to get additional functions.

in fact, the pinouts of the ports were documented in inside macintosh,
a book available in any bookstore, along with full documentation of mac
os. *anyone* could buy it, not just developers. the information was not
secret. 

mac os was *very* customizable. anyone who claims otherwise doesn't
know what they're talking about, regurgitating the old myths.

> >> As was
> >> Commodore's OS, but that's another story.
> > 
> > actually, not as much, but the key problem was it had very little
> > software available compared to mac, dos and windows. software
> > developers were not interested.
> 
> In comparison, sure. THAT is a correct statement especially the further 
> users got into the lifespan of a Commodore Amiga machine. However, fewer 
> titles does not translate into a machine being completely ignored by the 
> public or developers either.

it was mostly ignored. not zero, but close enough.

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#119221

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-11-07 12:41 -0600
Message-ID<m9c6udlqa3du3h7h320p0dsj4p8ukp2t91@4ax.com>
In reply to#119217
nospam wrote:

>win 3.x was only slightly better than dos

But it ran the new GUI-based software, which is what mattered.  95
being "better" didn't matter that much.

-- 
'Actually printing and audio do not "just work" in Linux, It can be a
nightmare.'  -  "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark

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#119225

FromWolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
Date2018-11-07 14:23 -0500
Message-ID<LYGED.487373$oM2.3062@fx07.iad>
In reply to#119217
On 2018-11-07 12:11, nospam wrote:
[...]
> microsoft word and excel were on a mac long before they were on windows.
[...]

https://www.reference.com/technology/history-microsoft-word-534eb9f5980d955

-- 
Wolf K
kirkwood40.blogspot.com
"Gentics is not genealogy." (Gragham Coop, Ph.D.)

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#119244

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-11-08 00:33 -0400
Message-ID<081120180033244167%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#119225
In article <LYGED.487373$oM2.3062@fx07.iad>, Wolf K
<wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> > microsoft word and excel were on a mac long before they were on windows.
> [...]
> 
> https://www.reference.com/technology/history-microsoft-word-534eb9f5980d955

that refers to the dos version of word. read what i wrote. i did not
mention dos.

the dos version of word was very primitive in comparison to word on the
mac and later windows, greatly limited by dos. it did not do wysiwyg
and was at its core, a dos app with a mouse to perform dos commands.

<http://toastytech.com/guis/word115load.png>

the mac version of microsoft word was a complete rewrite from scratch,
using mac toolbox apis and with full wysiwyg, as were all apps on a
mac. 

excel never was on dos. multiplan was, but it was not as capable.

it was several years later when microsoft office appeared on windows.

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#119257

FromWolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
Date2018-11-08 09:20 -0500
Message-ID<_CXED.286784$hA.145801@fx15.iad>
In reply to#119244
On 2018-11-07 23:33, nospam wrote:
> In article <LYGED.487373$oM2.3062@fx07.iad>, Wolf K
> <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
>>> microsoft word and excel were on a mac long before they were on windows.
>> [...]
>>
>> https://www.reference.com/technology/history-microsoft-word-534eb9f5980d955
> 
> that refers to the dos version of word. read what i wrote. i did not
> mention dos.

Then write with more precise scope. Your claim as written is false, 
since Word/Excel were first written for DOS, and then were ported to 
Mac-OS. If you wanted to limit "Word/Excel" to refer to the first 
WYSIWIG version, you should have specified.

> the dos version of word was very primitive in comparison to word on the
> mac and later windows, [snip repetition of the cited source's information]


-- 
Wolf K
kirkwood40.blogspot.com
"Gentics is not genealogy." (Gragham Coop, Ph.D.)

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#119269

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-11-08 10:49 -0400
Message-ID<081120181049091111%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#119257
In article <_CXED.286784$hA.145801@fx15.iad>, Wolf K
<wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> >>> microsoft word and excel were on a mac long before they were on windows.
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> https://www.reference.com/technology/history-microsoft-word-534eb9f5980d955
> > 
> > that refers to the dos version of word. read what i wrote. i did not
> > mention dos.
> 
> Then write with more precise scope. Your claim as written is false, 

nope. it's *exactly* true as written.

> since Word/Excel were first written for DOS, and then were ported to 
> Mac-OS.

wrong. 

excel was never on dos, making it completely impossible to port.

ms word for mac was written from scratch, using mac apis. it was not
ported from dos, nor could it have been. the platforms were *far* too
different.

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#119284

FromAlan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date2018-11-08 10:13 -0800
Message-ID<ps1uc5$k96$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#119257
On 2018-11-08 6:20 AM, Wolf K wrote:
> On 2018-11-07 23:33, nospam wrote:
>> In article <LYGED.487373$oM2.3062@fx07.iad>, Wolf K
>> <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>> microsoft word and excel were on a mac long before they were on 
>>>> windows.
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> https://www.reference.com/technology/history-microsoft-word-534eb9f5980d955 
>>>
>>
>> that refers to the dos version of word. read what i wrote. i did not
>> mention dos.
> 
> Then write with more precise scope. Your claim as written is false, 
> since Word/Excel were first written for DOS, and then were ported to 
> Mac-OS. If you wanted to limit "Word/Excel" to refer to the first 
> WYSIWIG version, you should have specified.

You need to learn to read for comprehension:

"long before they were on WINDOWS."

> 
>> the dos version of word was very primitive in comparison to word on the
>> mac and later windows, [snip repetition of the cited source's 
>> information]
> 
> 

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#119259

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-11-08 07:45 -0700
Message-ID<g4j0g4Fke45U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119244
On 11/7/18 9:33 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article <LYGED.487373$oM2.3062@fx07.iad>, Wolf K
> <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
>>> microsoft word and excel were on a mac long before they were on windows.
>> [...]
>>
>> https://www.reference.com/technology/history-microsoft-word-534eb9f5980d955
> 
> that refers to the dos version of word. read what i wrote. i did not
> mention dos.
> 
> the dos version of word was very primitive in comparison to word on the
> mac and later windows, greatly limited by dos. it did not do wysiwyg
> and was at its core, a dos app with a mouse to perform dos commands.
> 
> <http://toastytech.com/guis/word115load.png>
> 
> the mac version of microsoft word was a complete rewrite from scratch,
> using mac toolbox apis and with full wysiwyg, as were all apps on a
> mac.

In the early '90s I used to teach computer classes to high school 
students. I taught on even-then outdated one-piece Macs, using MS Word. 
The other teachers taught on Word Perfect 5.1 on DOS. They kept asking 
why I was teaching on such "toys" -- but even at the time I realized the 
future was something LIKE what I was teaching with. I did not know MS 
Word would remain the big name, or that Apple would even survive, but I 
knew the future of computing was the GUI-driven, mouse based, experience.

> excel never was on dos. multiplan was, but it was not as capable.
> 
> it was several years later when microsoft office appeared on windows.
> 


-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#119289

FromWolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
Date2018-11-08 14:12 -0500
Message-ID<uU%ED.308896$SG2.204521@fx29.iad>
In reply to#119259
On 2018-11-08 09:45, Snit wrote:
> On 11/7/18 9:33 PM, nospam wrote:
>> In article <LYGED.487373$oM2.3062@fx07.iad>, Wolf K
>> <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>> microsoft word and excel were on a mac long before they were on 
>>>> windows.
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> https://www.reference.com/technology/history-microsoft-word-534eb9f5980d955 
>>>
>>
>> that refers to the dos version of word. read what i wrote. i did not
>> mention dos.
>>
>> the dos version of word was very primitive in comparison to word on the
>> mac and later windows, greatly limited by dos. it did not do wysiwyg
>> and was at its core, a dos app with a mouse to perform dos commands.
>>
>> <http://toastytech.com/guis/word115load.png>
>>
>> the mac version of microsoft word was a complete rewrite from scratch,
>> using mac toolbox apis and with full wysiwyg, as were all apps on a
>> mac.
> 
> In the early '90s I used to teach computer classes to high school 
> students. I taught on even-then outdated one-piece Macs, using MS Word. 
> The other teachers taught on Word Perfect 5.1 on DOS. They kept asking 
> why I was teaching on such "toys" -- but even at the time I realized the 
> future was something LIKE what I was teaching with. I did not know MS 
> Word would remain the big name, or that Apple would even survive, but I 
> knew the future of computing was the GUI-driven, mouse based, experience.

Interesting point. I think it was adumbrated when GEOS was created for 
the Commodore 64. Later ported to the PC as Geoworks, it had all the 
elements of current ubiquitous GUI: icons with labels (and een file-size 
data), click to launch, etc.. The low rez monitors of the time made it 
look like crap, but it was a powerful GUI.

> 
>> excel never was on dos. multiplan was, but it was not as capable.
>>
>> it was several years later when microsoft office appeared on windows.
>>

Lotus?


-- 
Wolf K
kirkwood40.blogspot.com
"Gentics is not genealogy." (Gragham Coop, Ph.D.)

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#119292

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-11-08 14:22 -0500
Message-ID<081120181422070802%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#119289
In article <uU%ED.308896$SG2.204521@fx29.iad>, Wolf K
<wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> >> excel never was on dos. multiplan was, but it was not as capable.
> >>
> >> it was several years later when microsoft office appeared on windows.
> >>
> 
> Lotus?

lotus 123 has nothing to do with excel or multiplan, other than they're
spreadsheet apps. two different companies.

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#119296

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-11-08 13:22 -0700
Message-ID<g4jk8dFot1dU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119289
On 11/8/18 12:12 PM, Wolf K wrote:
> On 2018-11-08 09:45, Snit wrote:
>> On 11/7/18 9:33 PM, nospam wrote:
>>> In article <LYGED.487373$oM2.3062@fx07.iad>, Wolf K
>>> <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> microsoft word and excel were on a mac long before they were on 
>>>>> windows.
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> https://www.reference.com/technology/history-microsoft-word-534eb9f5980d955 
>>>>
>>>
>>> that refers to the dos version of word. read what i wrote. i did not
>>> mention dos.
>>>
>>> the dos version of word was very primitive in comparison to word on the
>>> mac and later windows, greatly limited by dos. it did not do wysiwyg
>>> and was at its core, a dos app with a mouse to perform dos commands.
>>>
>>> <http://toastytech.com/guis/word115load.png>
>>>
>>> the mac version of microsoft word was a complete rewrite from scratch,
>>> using mac toolbox apis and with full wysiwyg, as were all apps on a
>>> mac.
>>
>> In the early '90s I used to teach computer classes to high school 
>> students. I taught on even-then outdated one-piece Macs, using MS 
>> Word. The other teachers taught on Word Perfect 5.1 on DOS. They kept 
>> asking why I was teaching on such "toys" -- but even at the time I 
>> realized the future was something LIKE what I was teaching with. I did 
>> not know MS Word would remain the big name, or that Apple would even 
>> survive, but I knew the future of computing was the GUI-driven, mouse 
>> based, experience.
> 
> Interesting point. I think it was adumbrated when GEOS was created for 
> the Commodore 64. Later ported to the PC as Geoworks, it had all the 
> elements of current ubiquitous GUI: icons with labels (and een file-size 
> data), click to launch, etc.. The low rez monitors of the time made it 
> look like crap, but it was a powerful GUI.

You can see am emulator for Classic Mac OS here:

<http://jamesfriend.com.au/pce-js/pce-js-apps/>

Now this is System 7, which is more advanced than the original 1984 
version but also shares a LOT in common with it (biggest difference 
likely being the ability to switch between running programs).

If you got the average high school student from today to use that they 
would quickly figure it out -- the current systems borrow a LOT from it. 
There would surely be issues such why the menus do not stay available if 
you release the mouse and perhaps questions on even how to find apps, 
but overall it would be a very familiar experience, even if showing a 
very dated look.

>>> excel never was on dos. multiplan was, but it was not as capable.
>>>
>>> it was several years later when microsoft office appeared on windows.
>>>
> 
> Lotus?
> 
> 


-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#119306

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-11-08 16:30 -0500
Message-ID<081120181630081720%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#119296
In article <g4jk8dFot1dU1@mid.individual.net>, Snit
<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> You can see am emulator for Classic Mac OS here:
> 
> <http://jamesfriend.com.au/pce-js/pce-js-apps/>
> 
> Now this is System 7, which is more advanced than the original 1984 
> version but also shares a LOT in common with it (biggest difference 
> likely being the ability to switch between running programs).

switching among multiple apps existed well before system 7.

> If you got the average high school student from today to use that they 
> would quickly figure it out -- the current systems borrow a LOT from it. 
> There would surely be issues such why the menus do not stay available if 
> you release the mouse

that was an intentional ui decision, one which was later changed.

> and perhaps questions on even how to find apps, 

there's a reason why finder was called finder.

> but overall it would be a very familiar experience, even if showing a 
> very dated look.

pretty much.

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#119321

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-11-08 19:00 -0700
Message-ID<g4k823Ft279U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119306
On 11/8/18 2:30 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article <g4jk8dFot1dU1@mid.individual.net>, Snit
> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>> You can see am emulator for Classic Mac OS here:
>>
>> <http://jamesfriend.com.au/pce-js/pce-js-apps/>
>>
>> Now this is System 7, which is more advanced than the original 1984
>> version but also shares a LOT in common with it (biggest difference
>> likely being the ability to switch between running programs).
> 
> switching among multiple apps existed well before system 7.

Unless you mean desk accessories I think that was System 6, but I was 
comparing it to "the original 1984 version".

>> If you got the average high school student from today to use that they
>> would quickly figure it out -- the current systems borrow a LOT from it.
>> There would surely be issues such why the menus do not stay available if
>> you release the mouse
> 
> that was an intentional ui decision, one which was later changed.

Yes... and a good thing they did.

<https://www.researchgate.net/publication/2998915_Of_mice_and_menus_Designing_the_user-friendly_interface>

>> and perhaps questions on even how to find apps,
> 
> there's a reason why finder was called finder.

:)

>> but overall it would be a very familiar experience, even if showing a
>> very dated look.
> 
> pretty much.

I have had my kids play with it... they figured it out very quickly. 
Well, at least the basics.



-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#119333

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-11-08 21:52 -0500
Message-ID<081120182152382711%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#119321
In article <g4k823Ft279U1@mid.individual.net>, Snit
<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> > 
> >> You can see am emulator for Classic Mac OS here:
> >>
> >> <http://jamesfriend.com.au/pce-js/pce-js-apps/>
> >>
> >> Now this is System 7, which is more advanced than the original 1984
> >> version but also shares a LOT in common with it (biggest difference
> >> likely being the ability to switch between running programs).
> > 
> > switching among multiple apps existed well before system 7.
> 
> Unless you mean desk accessories I think that was System 6, but I was 
> comparing it to "the original 1984 version".

desk accessories do count since they could be used alongside standard
apps, and were even preemptively scheduled. some of them were really
full fledged apps in disguise.

however, i was thinking of switcher, which was introduced with system 5
in 1987, a little more than 3 years after the mac came out and about 4
years before system 7, in 1991.

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#119338

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-11-08 20:10 -0700
Message-ID<g4kc5uFtqpiU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119333
On 11/8/18 7:52 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article <g4k823Ft279U1@mid.individual.net>, Snit
> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>>>
>>>> You can see am emulator for Classic Mac OS here:
>>>>
>>>> <http://jamesfriend.com.au/pce-js/pce-js-apps/>
>>>>
>>>> Now this is System 7, which is more advanced than the original 1984
>>>> version but also shares a LOT in common with it (biggest difference
>>>> likely being the ability to switch between running programs).
>>>
>>> switching among multiple apps existed well before system 7.
>>
>> Unless you mean desk accessories I think that was System 6, but I was
>> comparing it to "the original 1984 version".
> 
> desk accessories do count since they could be used alongside standard
> apps, and were even preemptively scheduled. some of them were really
> full fledged apps in disguise.
> 
> however, i was thinking of switcher, which was introduced with system 5
> in 1987, a little more than 3 years after the mac came out and about 4
> years before system 7, in 1991.

Ah, I was thinking System 6... fair enough.


-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#119342

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-11-08 22:16 -0500
Message-ID<081120182216026949%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#119338
In article <g4kc5uFtqpiU2@mid.individual.net>, Snit
<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> >>>> You can see am emulator for Classic Mac OS here:
> >>>>
> >>>> <http://jamesfriend.com.au/pce-js/pce-js-apps/>
> >>>>
> >>>> Now this is System 7, which is more advanced than the original 1984
> >>>> version but also shares a LOT in common with it (biggest difference
> >>>> likely being the ability to switch between running programs).
> >>>
> >>> switching among multiple apps existed well before system 7.
> >>
> >> Unless you mean desk accessories I think that was System 6, but I was
> >> comparing it to "the original 1984 version".
> > 
> > desk accessories do count since they could be used alongside standard
> > apps, and were even preemptively scheduled. some of them were really
> > full fledged apps in disguise.
> > 
> > however, i was thinking of switcher, which was introduced with system 5
> > in 1987, a little more than 3 years after the mac came out and about 4
> > years before system 7, in 1991.
> 
> Ah, I was thinking System 6... fair enough.

actually, it was multifinder with system 5. 

switcher was 1985, a year after the mac came out.

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#119344

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-11-08 20:18 -0700
Message-ID<g4kcjrFtunmU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119342
On 11/8/18 8:16 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article <g4kc5uFtqpiU2@mid.individual.net>, Snit
> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> You can see am emulator for Classic Mac OS here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://jamesfriend.com.au/pce-js/pce-js-apps/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now this is System 7, which is more advanced than the original 1984
>>>>>> version but also shares a LOT in common with it (biggest difference
>>>>>> likely being the ability to switch between running programs).
>>>>>
>>>>> switching among multiple apps existed well before system 7.
>>>>
>>>> Unless you mean desk accessories I think that was System 6, but I was
>>>> comparing it to "the original 1984 version".
>>>
>>> desk accessories do count since they could be used alongside standard
>>> apps, and were even preemptively scheduled. some of them were really
>>> full fledged apps in disguise.
>>>
>>> however, i was thinking of switcher, which was introduced with system 5
>>> in 1987, a little more than 3 years after the mac came out and about 4
>>> years before system 7, in 1991.
>>
>> Ah, I was thinking System 6... fair enough.
> 
> actually, it was multifinder with system 5.
> 
> switcher was 1985, a year after the mac came out.
> 
Cool... so very early on. Thanks.

-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#119325

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-11-08 21:09 -0500
Message-ID<h%5FD.234746$X82.30343@fx22.iad>
In reply to#119289
On 2018-11-08 2:12 p.m., Wolf K wrote:
> On 2018-11-08 09:45, Snit wrote:
>> On 11/7/18 9:33 PM, nospam wrote:
>>> In article <LYGED.487373$oM2.3062@fx07.iad>, Wolf K
>>> <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> microsoft word and excel were on a mac long before they were on 
>>>>> windows.
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> https://www.reference.com/technology/history-microsoft-word-534eb9f5980d955 
>>>>
>>>
>>> that refers to the dos version of word. read what i wrote. i did not
>>> mention dos.
>>>
>>> the dos version of word was very primitive in comparison to word on the
>>> mac and later windows, greatly limited by dos. it did not do wysiwyg
>>> and was at its core, a dos app with a mouse to perform dos commands.
>>>
>>> <http://toastytech.com/guis/word115load.png>
>>>
>>> the mac version of microsoft word was a complete rewrite from scratch,
>>> using mac toolbox apis and with full wysiwyg, as were all apps on a
>>> mac.
>>
>> In the early '90s I used to teach computer classes to high school 
>> students. I taught on even-then outdated one-piece Macs, using MS 
>> Word. The other teachers taught on Word Perfect 5.1 on DOS. They kept 
>> asking why I was teaching on such "toys" -- but even at the time I 
>> realized the future was something LIKE what I was teaching with. I did 
>> not know MS Word would remain the big name, or that Apple would even 
>> survive, but I knew the future of computing was the GUI-driven, mouse 
>> based, experience.
> 
> Interesting point. I think it was adumbrated when GEOS was created for 
> the Commodore 64. Later ported to the PC as Geoworks, it had all the 
> elements of current ubiquitous GUI: icons with labels (and een file-size 
> data), click to launch, etc.. The low rez monitors of the time made it 
> look like crap, but it was a powerful GUI.

I was somewhat fond of GeOS. When I bought a 386 laptop around 2000 for 
the heck of it, it came with Windows 3.1 that I quickly replaced with 
GeOS. I ended up getting a tiny bit of use out of it but the battery was 
dead and you had to play with the power port in the back to get a 
consistent source of electricity so I eventually gave it on it. Great 
little operating system though.


-- 
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Minds: @silverslimer

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#119281

FromAlan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date2018-11-08 10:06 -0800
Message-ID<ps1tun$j8j$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#119225
On 2018-11-07 11:23 AM, Wolf K wrote:
> On 2018-11-07 12:11, nospam wrote:
> [...]
>> microsoft word and excel were on a mac long before they were on windows.
> [...]
> 
> https://www.reference.com/technology/history-microsoft-word-534eb9f5980d955
> 

The first version of Word for the Mac was released in 1985.

The first version for Windows didn't arrive until 1989, and very nearly 
the end of 1989 at that (November).

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#119295

FromWolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
Date2018-11-08 15:00 -0500
Message-ID<DB0FD.1322538$YL3.766711@fx48.iad>
In reply to#119281
On 2018-11-08 13:06, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2018-11-07 11:23 AM, Wolf K wrote:
>> On 2018-11-07 12:11, nospam wrote:
>> [...]
>>> microsoft word and excel were on a mac long before they were on windows.
>> [...]
>>
>> https://www.reference.com/technology/history-microsoft-word-534eb9f5980d955 
>>
>>
> 
> The first version of Word for the Mac was released in 1985.
> 
> The first version for Windows didn't arrive until 1989, and very nearly 
> the end of 1989 at that (November).

 From the cuted souirce:

"Microsoft Word, first released in 1983 as "Multi-Tool Word," is a word 
processor available as a standalone product and as a component in the 
Microsoft Office suite. The first version of Microsoft Word was based on 
the framework of Bravo, the world's first word processor with a 
graphical user interface.

Following the renaming of Multi-Tool Word to Microsoft Word, Microsoft 
released its first version of Word in October 1983 for the IBM PC. "

Seems like some people want to insist that the first Word, a non-WYSIWYG 
program, was not Word.

Well, if you want to quibble, the quibbling contest is over that-away.

-- 
Wolf K
kirkwood40.blogspot.com
"Gentics is not genealogy." (Gragham Coop, Ph.D.)

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