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Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally?

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  Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-19 15:06 +0000
    Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2018-09-19 17:02 +0100
      Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 17:03 +0000
        Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 18:36 +0000
      Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "543dsa" <543dsa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 03:53 +1000
        Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-09-19 18:37 +0000
          Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-19 21:05 +0000
            Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 18:47 +0000
          Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 18:44 +0000
        Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 18:38 +0000
          Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2018-09-20 19:22 -0500
            Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-21 13:19 +0000
              Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-21 09:28 -0400
                Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-21 18:59 +0000
              Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2018-09-21 09:42 -0500
                Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-21 18:59 +0000
                  Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-21 20:21 +0000
      Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2018-09-19 22:09 -0500
        Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 18:52 +0000
      Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 18:34 +0000

#118174 — Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally?

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:13:39 -0400, nospam wrote:

>> Since the MacBook is essentially Linux, 
> 
> it isn't
> 
>> it should b e able to copy 400
>> photo files in less than two minutes
> 
> it can

1 minute 55 seconds, and Ant would have been done!
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9185854windows_to_ios.jpg>

The difference between you and normal people, nospam, is you're full of
shit.

You can't prove a single statement you make.
Meanwhile, _all_ mine are valid verified facts.

Think about that.
That's the difference between an adult, and an Apple Apologist.

I proved I copied 400 files from *any* mobile device (I don't even have to
own it) to any other file system (whether that be Android, Windows, iOS, or
Linux).

For what Ant was doing, from iOS to the desktop file system, it took
- 1 minute, 55 seconds

In two minutes, I did what Ant has been taking days (elapsed time) trying
to do following your classic wild goose chases.

And yet you claim it can be done - all the while you can't do it.
Classic Apple Apologist bullshit nospam.

You have zero credibility. 
You can't do 99% of what you _say_ you can do.

Meanwhile, I prove everything I say.
That's the difference between an adult, and an Apple Apologist.

1 minute 55 seconds, and Ant would have been done!
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9185854windows_to_ios.jpg>

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#118177

In article <pntomb$5hj$1@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen H. Holder
<arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:13:39 -0400, nospam wrote:
>
>>> Since the MacBook is essentially Linux, 
>> 
>> it isn't
>> 
>>> it should b e able to copy 400
>>> photo files in less than two minutes
>> 
>> it can
>
>1 minute 55 seconds, and Ant would have been done!
> <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9185854windows_to_ios.jpg>
>
>The difference between you and normal people, nospam, is you're full of
>shit.

What's this wanker doing back here?

-- 
Lady Astor: "If you were my husband I'd give you poison." Churchill: "If
you were my wife, I'd drink it."

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#118179

Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <pntomb$5hj$1@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen H. Holder
> <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:13:39 -0400, nospam wrote:
>> 
>>>> Since the MacBook is essentially Linux, 
>>> 
>>> it isn't
>>> 
>>>> it should b e able to copy 400
>>>> photo files in less than two minutes
>>> 
>>> it can
>> 
>> 1 minute 55 seconds, and Ant would have been done!
>> <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9185854windows_to_ios.jpg>
>> 
>> The difference between you and normal people, nospam, is you're full of
>> shit.
> 
> What's this wanker doing back here?
> 

He fucked up and nym-shifted in the middle of thread. Something he claims
to never do...

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#118193

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:03:20 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:

> He fucked up and nym-shifted in the middle of thread. Something he claims
> to never do...

If an adult can't figure out my posts in ten seconds, then that adult is an
utter moron, Chris.

HINT: You're an utter moron, Chris.

I don't even have to prove that fact.
Every single time you post, Chris, you _prove_ you're an utter moron.

I only speak facts.

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#118182

"Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote in message 
news:190920181702046107%timstreater@greenbee.net...
> In article <pntomb$5hj$1@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen H. Holder
> <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:13:39 -0400, nospam wrote:
>>
>>>> Since the MacBook is essentially Linux,
>>>
>>> it isn't
>>>
>>>> it should b e able to copy 400
>>>> photo files in less than two minutes
>>>
>>> it can
>>
>>1 minute 55 seconds, and Ant would have been done!
>> <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9185854windows_to_ios.jpg>
>>
>>The difference between you and normal people, nospam, is you're full of
>>shit.
>
> What's this wanker doing back here?

He keeps adding crossposts because anyone with
even half a clue ignores his juvenile shit/trolling. 

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#118183

On 2018-09-19, 543dsa <543dsa@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote in message 
> news:190920181702046107%timstreater@greenbee.net...
>>
>> What's this wanker doing back here?
>
> He keeps adding crossposts because anyone with
> even half a clue ignores his juvenile shit/trolling. 

He constantly nym switches too, for the same reason. 
He's a pathetic man-child. His momma must be so proud.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#118185

In message <g0fjc5F7b78U1@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2018-09-19, 543dsa <543dsa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote in message 
>> news:190920181702046107%timstreater@greenbee.net...
>>>
>>> What's this wanker doing back here?
>>
>> He keeps adding crossposts because anyone with
>> even half a clue ignores his juvenile shit/trolling. 

> He constantly nym switches too, for the same reason. 
> He's a pathetic man-child. His momma must be so proud.

She's got him killfiled too.


-- 
Personal isn't the same as important

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#118196

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:05:48 -0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote:

> She's got him killfiled too.

You must think that trite comment hilarious, Lewis.

What's funny is that you prove in every post that your mentality is stunted
at about the level of a fifth grader.

The main fifth graders on the iOS newssgroups are these three:
- Jolly Roger
- Lewis
- BKatOnRamp

On the Mac groups, I can think of only two canonical fifth graders:
- Alan Browne
- Tim Streater

There are likely more fifth graders, but those five stand out as
particularly childish.

HINT: Why don't any of you actually help the original poster, Ant?

Answer: You can't. You're all too stupid. All you can do is play games.

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#118195

On 19 Sep 2018 18:37:57 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> He constantly nym switches too, for the same reason. 
> He's a pathetic man-child. His momma must be so proud.

Hi Jolly Roger,

As you know, I _love_ when you post!

You are well known to be pretty dumb, as humans go, so it's with intense
interest that I read what little of adult value you have to say (along with
the other incomprehensibly stupid posters, Lewis, and BKatOnRamp). 

The three of you are clearly average Apple users.
Hence, how your brain thinks is inordinately *interesting* to me.

It's always with mirth and enjoyment that I read what seemingly invaluable
input you have to help Ant on his problem interfacing iOS to the Mac.

HINT: Remember how you "helped" Wade Garrett by sending him on a wild goose
chase that stood zero chance in hell of ever working?

What's surprising about you man children, is that you don't exist on the
adult newsgroups (e.g., alt.os.linux). 

You man children, Jolly Roger, can only survive on the Apple newsgroups.
  Why Apple Apologists can only survive on Apple-only newsgroups! 
  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/ey9kv6ysVgA/jTmpI1ceEQAJ>

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#118194

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 03:53:39 +1000, 543dsa wrote:

> He keeps adding crossposts because anyone with
> even half a clue ignores his juvenile shit/trolling.

This is hilarious that you think an iOS to Mac question doesn't belong on
the iOS and Mac groups.

You prove you're stupid in _every_ post!

Instead of complaining that an IOS to Mac question is cross posted to both
iOS and Mac groups, why don't you *help* the original poster, Ant?

HINT: You can't. You're too _stupid_ to actually help Ant.

I'm the _only_ one here trying to help Ant. 

The rest of you prove you're clueless man children every time you post.

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#118202

On 9/20/2018 1:38 PM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 03:53:39 +1000, 543dsa wrote:
> 
>> He keeps adding crossposts because anyone with
>> even half a clue ignores his juvenile shit/trolling.
> 
> This is hilarious that you think an iOS to Mac question doesn't belong on
> the iOS and Mac groups.
> 
> You prove you're stupid in _every_ post!
> 
> Instead of complaining that an IOS to Mac question is cross posted to both
> iOS and Mac groups, why don't you *help* the original poster, Ant?
> 
> HINT: You can't. You're too _stupid_ to actually help Ant.
> 
> I'm the _only_ one here trying to help Ant.

In what way are you helping Ant? Nothing you have posted helps him get 
the photos to the MacBook. Copying files to Linux or Windows does not 
solve his problem.

Just connect the phone to the MacBook, via USB, open the Photos app and 
wait for the new device to appear. Then import the photos from the 
phone. There will be prompts on the phone and the MacBook that Ant will 
need to respond to. (Including dismissing those related to using the 
phone with iTunes.) Then wait for the files to copy. Everything imported 
to photos will be available to use on the MacBook.

That's not to say there aren't other methods that will also work; this 
is what I've actually done. Arlen, have you actually copied photos to a Mac?

You've posted a lot of words, insulted just about everyone and in the 
process provided no help to Ant. With respect to Ant's question, 
everything from you is just noise.



> 
> The rest of you prove you're clueless man children every time you post.
> 

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#118216

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:22:25 -0500, joe wrote:

> In what way are you helping Ant? Nothing you have posted helps him get 
> the photos to the MacBook. Copying files to Linux or Windows does not 
> solve his problem.

This is an adult question, "joe", so I'll treat you as an adult.
I'm trying to be helpful to Ant in the ways that I can be helpful.

Certainly I can almost certainly do *far more with iOS cross platform than
*anyone* on this newsgroup - of that there is little doubt in my mind.

So what I say - counts - because I prove I can do what I say I do.
To copy any number of files to and from iOS & other machines should be
trivial. Any iOS device. Any machine. Zero additional software. 

Certainly there should NEVER be a need to log into an Apple "account".

You should have complete and total freedom with *any* iOS device to copy
any of the flies on the visible file system, where Ant doesn't appear to
own the iOS device nor the Mac, so it's apropos that you should have this
total freedom.

Bear in mind that my first post stated clearly that the Mac had a variant
of UNIX under the hood, and that Linux copies photos anywhere to or from
the iOS device with aplomb.

I even *proved* that it works with aplomb, which is something the Apple
Apologists _never_ do (since they are never trying to be helpful).

Then I suggested that, perhaps, since the Mac is similar, that it would
have similar functionality to that of Ubuntu with respect to interfacing
with iOS.

Immediately, nospam responded that not only did the Mac have the same
functionality, but that the functionality on the Mac was even better.

Here's that post by nospam, assuring us that the Mac could do what I did.
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/xEF1mtuvvJc/LHlelTlzBAAJ>

Hence, my posts are fantastically helpful, since it shows Ant exactly what
to do, where nospam tells us all quite literally that the Mac can do what I
did, and even better.

> Just connect the phone to the MacBook, via USB, open the Photos app and 
> wait for the new device to appear. Then import the photos from the 
> phone. There will be prompts on the phone and the MacBook that Ant will 
> need to respond to. (Including dismissing those related to using the 
> phone with iTunes.) Then wait for the files to copy. Everything imported 
> to photos will be available to use on the MacBook.

That seems super complicated compared to the method I proposed and which
nospam said the Mac can do even better.

For one, does your method, which I note seems to use the iTunes
abomination, allow Ant to work with *any* iOS device and to read and write
to any portion of the iOS file system?

For another, perhaps more important since Ant might not need the power and
flexibility of my method (which nospam said the Mac can do, and better), if
the method is so easy, why is Ant still, after a dozen days, unsuccessful?

It only took me two minutes to copy 400 photos over USB from or to iOS.
Remember, nospam says the Mac can do it - and even better. 

Why can't Ant get the Mac to do it?
You tell me.

> That's not to say there aren't other methods that will also work; this 
> is what I've actually done. Arlen, have you actually copied photos to a Mac?

I substitute teach at a variety of schools, all of which have Macs.

While I can't stand the Mac, I have wrestled it many times in the past and
I have usually gotten the recalcitrant Mac to do what it should have done
all long.

However, the point is that nospam clearly and emphatically stated that the
Mac can do what I did, and even better.

So if the Mac can do what I did (even better) then what I did is apropos.

> You've posted a lot of words, insulted just about everyone 

Whoa. I *never* strike first. Never. Never. Never.

If you actg like a child, I treat you like a child.
If you act like an adult, I treat you as an adult.

I do that strategically (so you learn to act like an adult).
I do that tactically (with every response being a mirror of your intent).

The reason you only see insults is that you aren't comprehending this fact.

> and in the 
> process provided no help to Ant. 

As I said, my first response was that it's trivial to do what Ant is trying
to do, and I proved it was trivial (it takes two minutes, literally).

When I said that the Mac 'should' be able to do the same, nospam assured us
all that not only can the Mac do the same, but it can do it even better.

So if the Mac can't do it, then your beef isn't with me. It's with nospam.

> With respect to Ant's question, 
> everything from you is just noise.

Facts:
1. Ant asked a question about interfacing iOS to Mac on 9/10
2. I provided a tested solution that works iOS to Ubuntu on 9/11
   HINT: It took less than 2 minutes to perform the iOS to Linux copy!
3. The Apple Apologist nospam says on 9/11 the Mac can do that too
   <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/xEF1mtuvvJc/LHlelTlzBAAJ>
4. Multiple endless childish comments ensue by the Apple Apologists
5. As of today, 9/20, Ant is _still_ spectacularly unsuccessful

Only three people offered _any_ kind of potential solution for Ant:
- sms
- nospam
- me
  Where my solution was tested, documented, and explained in full detail.

The thread has scores of posts by now, and Ant is still unsuccessful.
99% of those posts are childish garbage from the Apple Apologists.

Like yours is.
Which means my response to you is as worthless as was your post I'm
responding to.

Please, "joe", comprehend this simple fact:
a. If you are purposefully unhelpful, I will tell you so.
b. If you act like an adult, I will respond to you as an adult.

What you see from me is only the *second* half of the story.
You are blind to the facts, "joe". Blind.

Look. Look again. Look one more time.
Every post you see "insults" from me, is a *response*.

If you can't even see a blatant fact, then you're blind to facts joe.
Just because you're blind to facts, doesn't make facts not facts. 

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#118218

In article <po2r4n$hm$1@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen H. Holder
<arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:

> To copy any number of files to and from iOS & other machines should be
> trivial. Any iOS device. Any machine. Zero additional software. 

it is trivial, yet for some reason, you manage to turn it and
everything else into a giant clusterfuck.

> Certainly there should NEVER be a need to log into an Apple "account".

there isn't.




> 
> > Just connect the phone to the MacBook, via USB, open the Photos app and 
> > wait for the new device to appear. Then import the photos from the 
> > phone. There will be prompts on the phone and the MacBook that Ant will 
> > need to respond to. (Including dismissing those related to using the 
> > phone with iTunes.) Then wait for the files to copy. Everything imported 
> > to photos will be available to use on the MacBook.
> 
> That seems super complicated compared to the method I proposed and which
> nospam said the Mac can do even better.

it's *much* easier than your method, and can even be set to auto-copy
if the user prefers.

> For one, does your method, which I note seems to use the iTunes
> abomination, allow Ant to work with *any* iOS device and to read and write
> to any portion of the iOS file system?

as you've been repeatedly told, itunes is not used to transfer anything.



> I substitute teach at a variety of schools, all of which have Macs.

that's unfortunate.

perhaps someone should call child protective services, because you are
damaging their brains.

> While I can't stand the Mac, I have wrestled it many times in the past and
> I have usually gotten the recalcitrant Mac to do what it should have done
> all long.

only because you have absolutely no clue what you're doing.

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#118232

On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 09:28:54 -0400, nospam wrote:

>> To copy any number of files to and from iOS & other machines should be
>> trivial. Any iOS device. Any machine. Zero additional software. 
> 
> it is trivial, yet for some reason, you manage to turn it and
> everything else into a giant clusterfuck.

I have to wonder if you, nospam, believe the bullshit you spew, just as I
wonder if the Russians or North Koreans believe the bullshit _they_ spew.

a. If you believe the bullshit you spew, then you prove yourself a moron
b. If you don't believe the bullshit you spew, then you're just slime
Pick one.

>> That seems super complicated compared to the method I proposed and which
>> nospam said the Mac can do even better.
> 
> it's *much* easier than your method, and can even be set to auto-copy
> if the user prefers.

Again, I have to wonder if you believe the bullshit you spew.
a. If you believe what you write, then you prove you're a moron
b. If you don't believe what you write, then you're just slime

The method I use is to slide using the native file explorer.
There's nothing stopping you from using an rsync script.

>> For one, does your method, which I note seems to use the iTunes
>> abomination, allow Ant to work with *any* iOS device and to read and write
>> to any portion of the iOS file system?
> 
> as you've been repeatedly told, itunes is not used to transfer anything.

You consistently play your silly games, nospam, such that you prove you
consistently exhibit the 7 distasteful traits of the Apple Apologists.
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/18ARDsEOPzM/dyso7m6gCgAJ>

One of those distasteful traits of Apple Apologists like you, nospam, is to
allude to imaginary conversations that exist only in your imagination.

> only because you have absolutely no clue what you're doing.

I did in 2 minutes (actual time) what Ant has been trying to do for about
two weeks (elapsed time). He's failed following your advice, as did Wade
Garrett and anyone who actually tries your imaginary systems.

I have to wonder if you, nospam, believe the bullshit you spew, just as I
wonder if the Russians or North Koreans believe the bullshit _they_ spew.

a. If you believe the bullshit you spew, then you prove yourself a moron
b. If you don't believe the bullshit you spew, then you're just slime
Pick one.

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#118219

On 9/21/2018 8:19 AM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:22:25 -0500, joe wrote:
> 
>> In what way are you helping Ant? Nothing you have posted helps him get
>> the photos to the MacBook. Copying files to Linux or Windows does not
>> solve his problem.
> 

< snip excessive BS that does not answer the question>


>> Just connect the phone to the MacBook, via USB, open the Photos app and
>> wait for the new device to appear. Then import the photos from the
>> phone. There will be prompts on the phone and the MacBook that Ant will
>> need to respond to. (Including dismissing those related to using the
>> phone with iTunes.) Then wait for the files to copy. Everything imported
>> to photos will be available to use on the MacBook.
> 
> That seems super complicated compared to the method I proposed and which
> nospam said the Mac can do even better.


Calling connect and import vs. your method which in no way solves Ant' 
issue as being more complicated is absurd. For starters your method 
involves requires installing Linux first.

> 
> For one, does your method, which I note seems to use the iTunes
> abomination, allow Ant to work with *any* iOS device and to read and write
> to any portion of the iOS file system?
> 

Again your reading comprehension fails you. I never said it uses iTunes. 
I specifically said to dismiss iTunes related pop-ups. You keep letting 
your anti-Apple bias affect your thought. Or, you are misrepresenting 
what I am saying deliberately.

> For another, perhaps more important since Ant might not need the power and
> flexibility of my method (which nospam said the Mac can do, and better), if
> the method is so easy, why is Ant still, after a dozen days, unsuccessful?

Well, only Ant can tell if that was tried. Don't ask me, that is absurd.

> 
> It only took me two minutes to copy 400 photos over USB from or to iOS.
> Remember, nospam says the Mac can do it - and even better.
> 
> Why can't Ant get the Mac to do it?
> You tell me.
> 

MacOS is not Linux and asking me questions that only Ant or nospam may 
answer is absurd on your part.

>> That's not to say there aren't other methods that will also work; this
>> is what I've actually done. Arlen, have you actually copied photos to a Mac?
> 
> I substitute teach at a variety of schools, all of which have Macs.
> 
> While I can't stand the Mac, I have wrestled it many times in the past and
> I have usually gotten the recalcitrant Mac to do what it should have done
> all long.
> 
> However, the point is that nospam clearly and emphatically stated that the
> Mac can do what I did, and even better.
> 
> So if the Mac can do what I did (even better) then what I did is apropos.

Only in your distorted world. You did not provide a usable solution for Ant.

> 
>> You've posted a lot of words, insulted just about everyone
> 
> Whoa. I *never* strike first. Never. Never. Never.
> 
> If you actg like a child, I treat you like a child.
> If you act like an adult, I treat you as an adult.

You strike at anyone that disagrees with you.

> 
> I do that strategically (so you learn to act like an adult).
> I do that tactically (with every response being a mirror of your intent).
> 
> The reason you only see insults is that you aren't comprehending this fact.
> 
>> and in the
>> process provided no help to Ant.
> 
> As I said, my first response was that it's trivial to do what Ant is trying
> to do, and I proved it was trivial (it takes two minutes, literally).
> 
> When I said that the Mac 'should' be able to do the same, nospam assured us
> all that not only can the Mac do the same, but it can do it even better.
> 
> So if the Mac can't do it, then your beef isn't with me. It's with nospam.
> 
>> With respect to Ant's question,
>> everything from you is just noise.
> 

<more BS snipped>

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#118231

On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 09:42:29 -0500, joe wrote:

> Calling connect and import vs. your method which in no way solves Ant' 
> issue as being more complicated is absurd. For starters your method 
> involves requires installing Linux first.

I did it in two minutes (transfer time).
When I suggested to Ant that maybe the Mac has the same power, your vaunted
hero nospam clearly and repeatedly claims the Mac do that, and better. 

Meanwhile, Ant has been trying nospam's suggestions for about 2 weeks.

Hence, don't blame me - I was clearly successful.

Blame nospam if you need blame (but really, blame the Mac, as that's where
the blame lies if it can't even do something as trivially simple as
treating any iOS device on the planet as a basic read/write USB stick).

> Again your reading comprehension fails you. Except that  I never said it uses iTunes. 
> I specifically said to dismiss iTunes related pop-ups. You keep letting 
> your anti-Apple bias affect your thought. Or, you are misrepresenting 
> what I am saying deliberately.

Ant asked how to copy the files from the iOS device to the desktop.
I explained to And how I would do it, albeit with Linux, mentioning in the
same post that the Mac might have similar functionality.

Immediately nospam claimed that the Mac had that functionality and more.
And has been spectacularly unsuccessful for two weeks (elapsed time).

Ant says, in effect, the software doesn't work but you ask Ant, not me, why
the method that nospam clearly claimed works, and not only works, but works
better, doesn't appear to work in the least.

At least not in the real world it doesn't seem to work.

> Well, only Ant can tell if that was tried. Don't ask me, that is absurd.

Ant mentioned only once or twice why the methods he's trying to simply copy
files from iOS to the desktop, are failing.

Ask _him_ why it's failing.

I can only tell you it took me two minutes to copy any file I wanted from
any part of iOS visible file system to the desktop, and vice versa.

Since nospam says the Mac can do that, and better, we have to ask the OP
why he's been spectacularly unsuccessful at doing what I clearly did in two
minutes (copying 400 normal-sized JPEG files over USB), and which nospam
claims the Mac can do better. 

> MacOS is not Linux and asking me questions that only Ant or nospam may 
> answer is absurd on your part.

Logic goes both ways.

Treating the iOS device as a read/write USB stick is clearly not magic and
asking me questions that only Ant or nospam can say why they can't do it is
absurd on your part.

> Only in your distorted world. You did not provide a usable solution for Ant.

What part of logic do you fail to comprehend?
1. Ant asked how to copy the files from iOS ot the desktop
2. A dual boot Mac/Ubuntu would have done it in less than two minutes.

What part of that don't you understand?

HINT: Ubuntu can be booted off the DVD drive, or, if Ant wants a more
permanent solution, Ubuntu installs dual boot with Windows in a few
minutes; Ant has been failing at this for almost two weeks (elapsed time)
using the Mac.

Are you saying that the Mac doesn't have the basic capability of:
a. booting Ubuntu off the DVD drive?
b. dual-booting with MacOS?

If you're saying that the Mac can't do either or both of those two simple
things, then perhaps my method won't help Ant, since the Mac would be,
essentially, brain dead if it can't do something as basic as that.

> You strike at anyone that disagrees with you.
Nope. You're wrong, "joe".

You have no helpful intent whatsoever. 
None.

How much have you helped Ant?
HINT: Zero. 

You tell me why Ant can't either:
a. Dual boot to Ubuntu, and be done with this task, or, 
b. Boot to a Ubuntu DVD and be done with this task.

> <more BS snipped>

I don't have to prove you act like a fifth-grade child, "joe".
Your own childish sentiments prove it to all.

I only speak facts. 
Which is why you _hate_ me. 

I know that.
You're not supposed to like me.

You're supposed to use logic and facts in your thought process.
Like I do.

Please answer my questions about booting to Ubuntu 18.04 for Ant.
That's what an 'adult' would do if you truly meant what you said.

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#118238

On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 18:59:34 -0000 (UTC), Arlen H. Holder wrote:

> I don't have to prove you act like a fifth-grade child, "joe".
> Your own childish sentiments prove it to all.

Actually, even though you acted like a fifth grader, "joe", you actually
came up with a brilliant solution to Ant's problem.

I just asked on the adult newsgroups (and on the Mac newsgroups), where in
minutes, the _wrong_ answer came back on the Mac newsgroups (fancy that)
and the _right_ answer came on the adult newsgroups (as always).

HINT: Yet another ad-hoc proof that Apple posters are man children.

Here's the first answer for Ant, which came up on the Mac newsgroup:
 > Q: Can the current Mac boot to a Ubuntu bootable DVD, or not?
   no, because there's no dvd drive anymore.

Here's the answer for Ant, which first came up on the adult newsgroup:

> Q: Can the Mac dual boot to Ubuntu or at least boot off a bootable DVD?
> A: ?

Yes.  This 2018 Jun article tells how to make a bootable Ub USB with the 
Mac and boot it and install it to a Mac part.

https://www.lifewire.com/dual-boot-linux-and-mac-os-4125733  How to 
Install and Dual Boot Linux and Mac OS

> Q: If yes, does Ubuntu recognize the native Mac file system?
> A: ?

Yes; you just have to disable journaling in the HFS.

https://lifehacker.com/5702815/the-complete-guide-to-sharing-your-data-across-multiple-operating-systems 
  A Comprehensive Guide to Sharing Your Data Across Multi-Booting 
Windows, Mac, and Linux PCs


-- 
Do you see how differently adults answer questions than Apple children?

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#118186

On 2018-09-19, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> What's this wanker doing back here?

The dickhead changed his name again.

-- 
-=Elden=-

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#118197

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 22:09:48 -0500, Elden wrote:

> The dickhead changed his name again.

I don't know you Elden, so I can't put you on the incomprehensibly stupid
list of Mac posters (alongside Tim Streater and Alan Brown).

But, I can tell you that you just proved, by what you post, that you have
the stunted vocabulary of a fifth grader.

You actually likely _think_ that comment hilarious, I'll bet.
You may even consider yourself an utter genius for coming up with it.

I don't have to even mention that your post proves you're stupid, Elden.

Your own words prove it to all.

Why don't you _help_ the OP, Ant, with his iOS-to-Mac problem?
Answer: You're too _stupid_. All you _can_ do, is call people dickheads.

HINT: I'm the only one who gave Ant a tested solution. Not you.

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#118192

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:02:04 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:

> What's this wanker doing back here?

Hi Tim Streater,

You probably think using "big words" like "wanker" makes you feel like a
"big kid", don't you?

The fact is that Ant, who is NOT an Apple Apologist, asked a question,
where I'm the only one who gave him an answer that was tested to actually
work. It worked in under two minutes.

Ant asked this question on 9/10, where I gave him a potentially workable
answer for Linux on 9/11, which I *tested* for Ant proving it works, at
least with Ubuntu.

Had I a Mac, I would have tested it with the Mac, where that's where YOU
can help Ant out.

Why don't you grow some balls (and brains) and test the solution out for
Ant?

HINT: You are too stupid ... all you _can_ do, is play fifth-grade games.

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