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#117542 — What are the common well-verified psychological traits of the Apple Apologists on this newsgroup?

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-07-23 00:42 +0000
Subject	What are the common well-verified psychological traits of the Apple Apologists on this newsgroup?
Message-ID	<pj389p$nd6$1@news.mixmin.net>

What are the common well-verified psychological traits of the typical iOS
poster on this newsgroup?

The question is a psychological one where the Apple Apologists have, for
decades, almost all exhibited the following common traits which have caused
endless discussions because Apple Apologists don't seem to like facts.

Here are the nine commonly exhibited traits of *all* the Apple Apologists:
* They're never purposefully helpful whenever they don't like the question
* They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary iOS functionality
* They then exclaim that they told us many times how to do it! :)
* They always "just guess" where their credibility is worthless
* They almost never back up their statements with any referenced facts
* They incessantly play silly childish word games when faced with facts
* They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
* Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
* They consistently blame Android for the lack of functionality on iOS 

What's psychologically interesting is that in this post, Savageduck yet
again blames Android for an OP's inability to do what he wants using iOS!
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/ooCFANY5CAAJ>

The OP of that thread concurred, that it was Android's fault that he
couldn't copy an app from one iOS device to another! 
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/7Qqc3f1dCAAJ>

Meanwhile, Jolly Roger yet again wholly fabricated imaginary iOS
functionality for the poor OP to attempt to follow (and fail), since both
nospam and Jolly Roger incessantly fabricate iOS functionality that just
doesn't exist, whenever they see a technical question that they don't like.
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/SGhljjBYCAAJ>
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/VqzlcQ0hCAAJ>

When the OP tried Jolly Roger's fabricated method, is it any surprise it
failed?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/C78-NjwnCAAJ>

NOTE: Often Jolly Roger responds with hate-filled fifth-grade vitriol when
confronted with facts, but in this particular test thread, he remained calm
so we won't add that to the common traits.

Of course, nospam not only fabricates imaginary iOS functionality:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/Cf3bIIcQCAAJ>
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/1YHAnJEnCAAJ>
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/jsxtlTchCAAJ>
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/3naulH4cCAAJ>
But nospam also claims that he's told us how to do (what can't be done)
many times, and we just won't listen to him.
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/yk6sP4I2CAAJ>
And even better, nospam claims that people have been successful with their
imaginary iOS functioanlity!
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/HZYE3iscCAAJ>

And yet, I told the OP it can't be done (because it can't be done).
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/7rHAL_QXCAAJ>

And so did sms, who is another credible poster on the iOS newsgroups who is
almost never wrong simply because he speaks facts. (Facts are funny that
way.)
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/u21p0MMaCAAJ>

Meanwhile, David Empson, the most knowedgeable and credible poster on the
iOs newsgroups by far, backed up what both sms and I said:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/z3kVVoc-CAAJ>

Hence, the question is a psychological one where the Apple Apologists have,
for decades, almost all exhibited the following common traits:
* They're never purposefully helpful whenever they don't like the question
* They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary iOS functionality
* They then exclaim that they told us many times how to do it! :)
* They always "just guess" where their credibility is worthless
* They almost never back up their statements with any referenced facts
* They incessantly play silly childish word games when faced with facts
* They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
* Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
* They consistently blame Android for the lack of functionality on iOS 

Are those the common psychological traits of all the Apple Apologists?

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#117543

From	Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date	2018-07-22 18:29 -0700
Message-ID	<0001HW.210566F000011C2E7000029BB2CF@news.giganews.com>
In reply to	#117542

On Jul 22, 2018, Arlen Holder wrote
(in article <pj389p$nd6$1@news.mixmin.net>):

>
> What's psychologically interesting is that in this post, Savageduck yet
> again blames Android for an OP's inability to do what he wants using iOS!
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/ooCFANY5CAAJ>

...and you start with a lie. Where in my single post to that thread did I 
blame Android for anything?

If you read, and comprehend my only post in that thread you will see that I 
did not blame Android, or any OS for the OP’s problem. I did indicate that 
your intrusion into the thread was yet another of your Android diatribes 
which did nothing to solve the OP’s problem since he was only using iOS 
devices.

Read it again:

"The OP(Wade Garrett) gave up when you butted in and started waxing on with
regard to Android. Since the OP asked his question with reference to getting
a copy of an app from his iPad(iOS not Android) to his iPad Mini (iOS not
Android),your contribution was irrelevant to this thread, and only started
your usual flame war involving the usual suspects.

He then returned to the thread to respond to JR’s suggestion, which was
unsuccessful. Since the app was a solitaire game, he decided to choose one of
the multitude of solitaire games free, or fee, available in the App Store.
Problem solved for this particular OP."
>
> The OP of that thread concurred, that it was Android's fault that he
> couldn't copy an app from one iOS device to another!
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/7Qqc3f1dCAAJ>

Another lie. The OP said no such thing. All he did was respond to my post, 
and said the following:

"Yup, that precisely sums it up!"

-- 

Regards,
Savageduck

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#117544

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-07-23 02:01 +0000
Message-ID	<pj3csu$uj6$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117543

On 22 Jul 2018 18:29:20 GMT, Savageduck wrote:

> which did nothing to solve the OP┬ problem since he was only using iOS 
> devices.

Hi Savageduck,

Let's be adults please.

You may be used to conversing with less logical and less intelligent
people, so what you just made up in your post may work with iOS gullible's,
but it doesn't work with well-educated people because all your facts are
dead wrong - and easily proven to be so.

Meanwhile, I only speak fact.
And I reference those facts.
So I'm almost never wrong (facts are funny that way).

You blamed my posts (which were all 100% factual and correct) for the OP's
inability to do what is actually impossible to do on iOS (and the OP
concurred with you).

Bear in mind that the first person to tell the OP the truth was me, and the
second person to tell the OP the truth was sms, and the third person to
tell the OP the truth was David Empson.

If Jolly Roger or nospam didn't incessantly fabricate their imaginary iOS
functionality, the OP would have had those three valid factual responses as
his answer. 

As it was, nospam and Jolly Roger *repeatedly* fabricated imaginary iOS
functionality such that the OP tried and failed and then simiply said
following their advice was "too complicated" (since none of it stood a
chance of working since it was all just made up).

Meanwhile, while you deprecate the functionality discussions that I
provided, you ignore that you yourself posted completely unrelated battery
backup information to that thread, all the while you deprecate the
functional information I posted.

> If you read, and comprehend my only post in that thread

What's amazing is that you posted *multieple times* in that thread, where
you already forgot that you posted this:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/gPeVojoiCAAJ>
which talks about completely unrealated sandisk products. 

And then you posted this, also completely unrelated issue:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/62UPEo0iCAAJ>

And then this completely unrelated issue:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/0quzhQAnCAAJ>

Before you then posted this statment that my facts caused iOS to not be
able to do what DAvid Empson, me, and sms already told the OP that iOS
can't do.
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/ooCFANY5CAAJ>

*The fact is you provided exactly 0 facts to help the OP solve the problem!*
*The fact is you posted completely unrelated drivel about batteries.*
*The fact is you then blamed my factual posts, for the OP's failures.*

Those are the facts.

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#117545

From	John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net>
Date	2018-07-22 19:28 -0700
Message-ID	<pj3eh7$5ld$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#117544

On 7/22/18   PDT 7:01 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> On 22 Jul 2018 18:29:20 GMT, Savageduck wrote:
> 
>> which did nothing to solve the OP¢s problem since he was only using iOS
>> devices.
> 
> Hi Savageduck,
> 
> Let's be adults please.
> 

That's hilarious considering the source!

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#117547

From	Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date	2018-07-22 19:44 -0700
Message-ID	<0001HW.21057877000537C17000029BB2CF@news.giganews.com>
In reply to	#117545

On Jul 22, 2018, John McWilliams wrote
(in article <pj3eh7$5ld$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 7/22/18 PDT 7:01 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> > On 22 Jul 2018 18:29:20 GMT, Savageduck wrote:
> >
> > > which did nothing to solve the OP's problem since he was only using iOS
> > > devices.
> >
> > Hi Savageduck,
> >
> > Let's be adults please.
>
> That's hilarious considering the source!

I really should minimize the pain, and just add *Arlen Holder* to the 
nymshift killfile.

-- 

Regards,
Savageduck

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#117551

From	Meanie <Me@gmail.com>
Date	2018-07-23 08:16 -0400
Message-ID	<pj4h25$g8t$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#117547

On 7/22/2018 10:44 PM, Savageduck wrote:
> On Jul 22, 2018, John McWilliams wrote
> (in article <pj3eh7$5ld$1@dont-email.me>):
> 
>> On 7/22/18 PDT 7:01 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
>>> On 22 Jul 2018 18:29:20 GMT, Savageduck wrote:
>>>
>>>> which did nothing to solve the OP's problem since he was only using iOS
>>>> devices.
>>>
>>> Hi Savageduck,
>>>
>>> Let's be adults please.
>>
>> That's hilarious considering the source!
> 
> I really should minimize the pain, and just add *Arlen Holder* to the
> nymshift killfile.
> 

I'm still dumbfounded as to why anyone responds to the attention whore 
idiot.

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#117552

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-07-23 16:01 +0000
Message-ID	<pj4u4m$ge4$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117551

On 23 Jul 2018 05:16:56 GMT, Meanie wrote:

> I'm still dumbfounded as to why anyone responds to the attention whore 
> idiot.

The reason Apple Apologists killfile me is because they hate facts.
The reason intelligent people don't, is that I speak of logic & reason.

Pick one.

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#117556

From	Elden <usenet@moondog.org>
Date	2018-07-23 23:34 -0500
Message-ID	<gc2dnSZRnsLYMcvGnZ2dnUU7-bGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to	#117547

On 2018-07-23, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> I really should minimize the pain, and just add *Arlen Holder* to the 
> nymshift killfile.

You win a prize! Only you were a bit late coming to this conclusion.

-- 
-=Elden=-

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#117557

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-07-25 09:17 +0000
Message-ID	<pj9f6v$r03$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117556

On 23 Jul 2018 21:34:13 GMT, Elden wrote:

> You win a prize! Only you were a bit late coming to this conclusion.

The question valid question because Apple Apologists have been 
psychologically extremely *different* from normal people for decades.

For example, for decades, almost all Mac/iOS threads that have compared 
Apple products to other products, have unilaterally been strung out many 
times longer than they needed to be, simply because the Apple Apologists 
almost always fabricate imaginary functionality that never existed. 
 Why do iOS apologists incessantly fabricate fictional iOS functionality?
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/K_yBNZiPFYo/yekUPvIXAwAJ>

Essentially for decades any thread that has Apple Apologists on it that 
also contains actual facts, becomes an instant morass, simply because of 
the consistent trait of the Apple Apologists to deny facts (such as the 
battery fiasco of last year as just one example) where the Apple Apologists 
consistently blamed Android many many many times, for Apple's design flaws!
 Why do the Apple Apologists habitually deny well-known proven facts?
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/eRTC23FyVDY/fDk0k8KAAwAJ>

Why they do that is strange - but they're very consistent over the years,.

Since it's clear that the Apple Apologists are not normal people, and since 
it's just as clear that almost all those long drawn out threads are 
unilaterally because Apple Apologists jsut make everythign up as they go 
along (and they play those silly semantic games constnatly), the 
observation is perfectly valid that there is something wrong with them ... 
but what?

The good news is this thread will serve to aid researchers in the future 
who ponder what is so very different, psychologically, between the Apple 
Apologists and normal adults.

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#117558

From	Johan <JHvB@nospam.invalid>
Date	2018-07-25 12:18 +0200
Message-ID	<pj9ips$37g$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#117557

Op 25-jul.-18 om 11:17 schreef Arlen Holder:
> On 23 Jul 2018 21:34:13 GMT, Elden wrote:
> 
>> You win a prize! Only you were a bit late coming to this conclusion.
> 
> The question valid question because Apple Apologists have been
> psychologically extremely *different* from normal people for decades.
> 
> For example, for decades, almost all Mac/iOS threads that have compared
> Apple products to other products, have unilaterally been strung out many
> times longer than they needed to be, simply because the Apple Apologists
> almost always fabricate imaginary functionality that never existed.
>   Why do iOS apologists incessantly fabricate fictional iOS functionality?
>   <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/K_yBNZiPFYo/yekUPvIXAwAJ>
> 
> Essentially for decades any thread that has Apple Apologists on it that
> also contains actual facts, becomes an instant morass, simply because of
> the consistent trait of the Apple Apologists to deny facts (such as the
> battery fiasco of last year as just one example) where the Apple Apologists
> consistently blamed Android many many many times, for Apple's design flaws!
>   Why do the Apple Apologists habitually deny well-known proven facts?
>   <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/eRTC23FyVDY/fDk0k8KAAwAJ>
> 
> Why they do that is strange - but they're very consistent over the years,.
> 
> Since it's clear that the Apple Apologists are not normal people, and since
> it's just as clear that almost all those long drawn out threads are
> unilaterally because Apple Apologists jsut make everythign up as they go
> along (and they play those silly semantic games constnatly), the
> observation is perfectly valid that there is something wrong with them ...
> but what?
> 
> The good news is this thread will serve to aid researchers in the future
> who ponder what is so very different, psychologically, between the Apple
> Apologists and normal adults.
> 
You are completly right, you belong to the "normal" people and the 
"normal" adults, but you are so damned alone. You are like the 
psychiater who is the only crazy person in the nut house.

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#117559

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-07-25 15:01 +0000
Message-ID	<pja3cn$qgn$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117558

On 25 Jul 2018 03:18:36 GMT, Johan wrote:

> You are completly right, you belong to the "normal" people and the 
> "normal" adults, but you are so damned alone. You are like the 
> psychiater who is the only crazy person in the nut house.

Thank you for helping us flesh out the list of Apple Apologist traits!

You seem to be ignorant that there are other, non-Apple, OS-related
newsgroups also.

For example, on the Linux newsgroup, where Apple Apologists don't post for
the most part, you almost never see nospam getting away with habitually
fabricating imaginary functionality like he has consistently does on the
Apple groups.

You almost never see people like nospam claiming they told the OP many
times how to perform that imaginary functionality.

You don't see people like Jolly Roger habitually fabricating content and
then responding to that fabricated content, like he incessantly does on the
Apple newsgroups.

You don't see people like Savageduck and Lewis and BK@OnRamp blaming every
fact about Linux they don't like on Microsoft.

And, I just realized there's another trait of the Apple Apologists that you
won't see on the Linux and Android and Windows newsgroups, which is that
every time someone mentions any fact about Apple that the Apple Apologists
don't like, they call the poster a troll, simply for telling the truth!

(Remember, I'm never wrong with my facts because facts are funny that way.)

So that adds one more extremely common trait to the list.
* They're allergic to facts, calling every fact they don't like, a troll. 
* They're never purposefully helpful whenever they don't like the question
* They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary iOS functionality
* They then exclaim that they told us many times how to do it! :)
* They always "just guess" where their credibility is worthless
* They almost never back up their statements with any referenced facts
* They incessantly play silly childish word games when faced with facts
* They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
* Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
* They consistently blame Android for the lack of functionality on iOS 

Thank you for helping us flesh out the list of Apple Apologist traits!

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#117803

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-08-24 12:42 +0000
Message-ID	<ploueq$9dm$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117559

Another common psychological trait of the Apple Apologists happened thrice
(by three different Apple Apologists) recently.

* When asked for references, their cites almost always disprove their statements
=================
Here is the post referencing Lewis' claim & refuted by Frank Slootweg:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/6K_vWtDA7sM/ReaWKhyjEwAJ>
=================
Here is a more detailed explanation of this Apple Apologist common trait:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/6K_vWtDA7sM/s-iVVWOoEwAJ>

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#117805

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-08-24 12:59 +0000
Message-ID	<plovfn$att$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117803

Yet again, the classic Apple Apologist nospam exhibited this trait:
* They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
* Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!

1. Here is the actual content: Message-ID: <pktb63$nek$1@news.mixmin.net>
2. nospam's response: Message-ID: <130820182136175144%nospam@nospam.invalid>

Notice that the Apple Apologists desperately *wish* to "sound" intelligent,
but since they can't converse like a normal adult would, they childishly
fabricate imaginary quoted content and then they respond to this
fabrication of content as if the conversation actually occurred!
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/lXUWgJT-vWc/thzNPjSpEwAJ>

Why do the Apple Apologists commonly exhibit this specific trait?
I don't know why.

But it's repeatedly in evidence so it's certainly a common trait of theirs.

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#117872

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-08-29 16:31 +0000
Message-ID	<pm6hps$fi6$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117559

Here is yet another *classic* proof of the traits of Apple Apologists!
 Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus)
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/CxMAGla24ss>

In this thread, the Apple Apologist "nospam" proved, yet again, most of the
traits explained in this thread.
* He outright denies that the real world exists outside the walled garden
  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/CxMAGla24ss/1Va7J9N0EgAJ>
* His claims play silly semantic games using the logic of a child
  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/CxMAGla24ss/ZzTiMhU0AwAJ>

He even denies that which Apple already publicly admitted!
  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/CxMAGla24ss/sORcJV9sEgAJ>

Even the canonical Apple Apologist "Alan Baker" proved that Apple
Apologists deny the real world, and their own cites consistently prove that
they don't say what the Apple Apologists "wished" (or thought) they said!
  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/CxMAGla24ss/3NhWO8Z2EgAJ>

Likewise, the Apple Apologist "joe" proved more of this child's logic by
outright denying facts that no sentient logical adult would (or could) ever
deny with a straight face.
  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/CxMAGla24ss/gWHRlOwAAwAJ>

Some additional common psychological traits showed up in that thread:
a. The Apple user lives in a mind-bending inordinate fear of the real world
b. The Apple owner buys based on fear, style, and walled-garden convenience

It was shown in that thread that the Apple user never buys functionality.
It's not that they don't like free functional products.
It's that their utter inordinately mind-changing fear drives them moreso.
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/CxMAGla24ss/WFUEglB7EgAJ>

In that specific thread, two Apple Apologists, "joe" and "nospam", deny the
fact that Flash exists in the real world, and they deny the fact that it
works just fine on Android - simply because their fear drives them to make
such childishly easily-proven-wrong comments.
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/CxMAGla24ss/Iwc6uFQ-EgAJ>

In summary, the Apple Apologist is distinctly different from normal adults.

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#117873

From	Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date	2018-08-29 09:47 -0700
Message-ID	<pm6imt$1nd$1@news.datemas.de>
In reply to	#117872

On 2018-08-29 9:31 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> Here is yet another *classic* proof...

...of your tediousness?

> of the traits of Apple Apologists!
>   Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus)
>   <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/CxMAGla24ss>

It's the "closest" because you say it is?

'iPhone X and iPhone 8 Are World's Fastest Phones (It's Not Even Close)'

<https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-8-benchmarks-fastest-phone,review-4676.html>

The Motorola X4 scores 864 on GeekBench 4 single core.

The iPhone 8 scores 4219.

That's better than the X4 scores in the multi-core test (4077).

The iPhone scores 10116 in multi-core.

<https://browser.geekbench.com/android_devices/442>

<https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/50>

So would you care to explain how the X4 is supposedly the "closest 
Android phone to an iPhone 8"?

<tedious ranting snipped>

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#117899

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-08-30 04:19 +0000
Message-ID	<pm7r8r$phr$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117559

Here is another case where the Apple Apologists blame Android for Apple's
lack of testing of their products in the real world!

nospam:
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/TUuKMvKHZfY/Vr08V_BXBAAJ>
response: 
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/TUuKMvKHZfY/fsLzerFbBAAJ>

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#118000

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-09-04 01:19 +0000
Message-ID	<pmkmjg$a63$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117559

The Apple Apologists are so consistently childish that they prove that they
constantly love to blame Android for each of Apple's individual faults.

Here is proof of Lewis playing this "Android made Apple do it" blame game:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/FAU-w_lj0kQ/nRxXTD7TBQAJ>

Here is the analysis of the Apple Apologists' child-like assertions:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/FAU-w_lj0kQ/nPF_jLbZBQAJ>

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#118006

From	Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date	2018-09-04 00:46 -0700
Message-ID	<pmld90$15ei$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#118000

On 2018-09-03 6:19 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> The Apple Apologists are so consistently childish that they prove that they
> constantly love to blame Android for each of Apple's individual faults.
> 
> Here is proof of Lewis playing this "Android made Apple do it" blame game:
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/FAU-w_lj0kQ/nRxXTD7TBQAJ>

Here is the text that Lewis wrote:

"So, 1% the experience of the newest Apple engineer working on batteries?
0.01%?

Unlike SOME companies, Apple's never designed a battery to explode. "

Which words match your claim?


> 
> Here is the analysis of the Apple Apologists' child-like assertions:
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/FAU-w_lj0kQ/nPF_jLbZBQAJ>
>

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#118791

From	Arlen Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net>
Date	2018-10-09 15:24 +0000
Message-ID	<ppih7r$u5$5@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#118000

Here is a list of the dozen most prolific Apple Apologists on this ng.
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/mehGxIGcoa8>

That list contains more examples, where every day, the Apple Apologists
prove the veracity of the traits outlined in this thread.

For example, just look at this thread containing multiple admissions by
Alan Baker that he didn't even *click* on the fact-containing URLs, before
strenuously declaring that all the facts contained therein were false!
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/ImMvxwkJZFQ/CvPQt6GRAwAJ>

These Apple Apologists don't even _read_ what they say is false!
That's a _classic" Apple Apologist maneuver.

Also look at the repeated incorrect responses by J.F. Mezei on that same
thread, where it's amazing that people can't comprehend even _simple_
facts.

Most of the other Apple Apologists said, outright, they didn't want facts.
Facts don't seem to have a place to fit in their imaginary belief system.

But this Apple Apologists says that they're wrong - where he admits that he
didn't bother to read them!

Classic proof that Apple Apologists are not like normal adults.

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#118792

From	Arlen Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net>
Date	2018-10-09 15:35 +0000
Message-ID	<ppihrl$20d$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#118791

On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 15:24:44 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

> Classic proof that Apple Apologists are not like normal adults.

Here is a classic post by an Apple Apologist, Lewis.
  How do I redownload and reinstall an older version of iOS app into my iPhone 4S? 
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/56nEgAZIjGk/YENXXP3gBAAJ>

The poor sop Ant was screwed by iTunes' inability to do what the user
expected it to do.

Bearing in mind that _all_ other common consumer platforms other than iOS
have the basic functionality this poor unsuspecting user Ant expected.

Notice exactly how the Apple Apologist Lewis responded!
a. Lewis _blames_ the user, and, more to the point, 
b. He makes up _excuses_ for why Apple won't let the user do what he wants

What happened is that a user, Ant, was screwed by the iTunes abomination.
That user Ant expected the functionality on _all_ other platforms but iOS.

When that user, Ant, found out that iTunes screwed him royally, the 
Apple Apologist Lewis ranted on with _excuses_ for iTunes' bad behavior.

Never once did the Apple Apologist Lewis mention that _every_ other
consumer platform enables this basic and trivially simple functionality.

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