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| Started by | Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> |
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| First post | 2016-10-03 15:35 +0000 |
| Last post | 2016-10-04 14:51 -0500 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 185 — 25 participants |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2016-10-03 15:35 +0000
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-03 16:12 +0000
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. "Mongoose" <mongoose@rikkitikkitavi.com> - 2016-10-03 12:26 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-03 12:36 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-03 12:59 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-03 13:16 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Anonymous <nobody@roance.net> - 2016-10-03 17:30 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-03 15:22 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-03 18:38 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-03 22:20 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-03 22:51 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-03 23:56 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-03 20:55 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-04 09:10 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-04 10:04 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-04 14:21 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-04 22:14 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 23:14 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-03 16:06 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-03 22:29 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-03 20:55 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-04 09:12 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-10-04 10:03 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-04 10:17 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-04 09:44 -0500
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. "Mongoose" <mongoose@rikkitikkitavi.com> - 2016-10-03 16:08 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-03 16:31 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-03 16:46 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. "Mongoose" <mongoose@rikkitikkitavi.com> - 2016-10-03 18:26 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-03 18:38 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-03 22:25 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-03 21:08 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-04 09:24 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-04 14:22 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-05 01:40 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-05 11:05 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-05 16:18 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-05 22:45 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-05 16:50 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-05 16:53 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-05 17:15 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-05 22:48 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-06 09:22 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-06 09:50 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-05 23:07 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-05 17:08 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-05 23:17 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-05 17:22 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-05 22:48 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-05 18:05 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-05 22:48 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-06 11:07 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-06 15:33 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-06 16:22 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-06 09:44 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-06 09:47 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-06 10:08 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-06 15:07 +0100
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-06 11:08 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-06 10:33 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-06 16:43 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-06 16:48 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-06 14:56 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-06 18:53 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-06 16:04 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-06 18:59 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-06 16:08 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-06 19:31 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-06 16:43 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-07 00:44 +0100
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-07 06:40 -0500
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-06 19:45 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-06 19:12 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-06 22:19 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-07 12:25 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-06 19:09 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-05 17:18 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-05 23:21 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-05 17:34 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-05 23:42 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-05 17:53 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-06 00:17 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-05 18:26 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-06 00:45 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-06 09:09 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-06 15:22 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 09:34 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-06 10:02 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-06 00:32 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-05 19:03 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-06 00:30 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-06 00:46 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-06 00:58 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-05 22:48 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-06 09:54 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-06 09:57 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-06 10:14 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-06 15:33 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-06 16:56 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-06 16:24 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-06 18:54 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-06 11:13 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-06 15:33 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-06 23:49 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-06 15:00 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-07 00:05 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-06 15:31 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-06 19:15 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-06 22:19 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-07 00:01 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-07 12:28 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-05 23:23 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-10-05 16:40 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-05 20:29 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-05 22:48 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-05 18:02 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-05 22:48 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-06 11:19 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-05 16:51 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-05 23:04 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-05 17:05 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-05 17:16 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-05 23:16 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-05 18:10 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-05 22:48 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-06 11:21 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-06 15:33 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-06 16:27 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-06 15:33 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-06 19:00 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-06 16:09 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-06 19:36 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-06 16:42 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-06 19:20 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-06 22:19 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-07 12:31 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-07 14:43 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-05 22:07 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-06 11:22 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-06 10:36 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-06 16:32 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-05 18:01 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-06 09:42 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-06 16:20 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-06 19:28 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2016-10-06 21:03 -0500
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2016-10-06 19:18 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-06 19:27 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-07 12:33 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-07 20:41 +0200
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-07 13:37 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-07 00:00 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-03 22:32 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-04 09:42 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-03 15:59 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-03 22:16 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-03 22:51 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-03 23:51 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-03 23:55 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-04 09:21 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-04 10:29 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-03 10:26 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-03 14:09 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-03 11:19 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-03 14:27 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-03 11:35 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-03 14:56 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-03 11:59 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-03 15:01 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-03 12:07 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-03 15:35 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-03 12:43 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-10-03 15:36 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-03 12:45 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-03 20:54 +0000
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-03 17:17 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-03 16:48 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-03 22:55 +0000
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-03 19:04 -0400
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-03 23:17 +0000
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-03 19:30 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-10-03 16:01 -0600
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-10-17 10:00 -0700
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 20:16 +0100
Re: Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-04 14:51 -0500
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-10-04 10:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <041020161029203518%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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In article <M1OIz.16374$tB2.1994@fx12.iad>, Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Read the Washington Post articles on the issue. On August 30, 2016, WP > reported: > "Apple paid a tax rate of 1 percent or even less ‹ 0.0005 percent, in > some years ‹..." so did google, facebook, intel and others. your issue is with *ireland*, not apple. > > WP also reports (repeatedly) that Ireland made a special deal with > Apple. don't believe everything you read. google, facebook, intel and others are benefiting from this supposed apple deal. the reality is that it's the tax code and it would be foolish to *not* take advantage of it.
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 10:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <nsu4ba$q8l$3@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #95107 |
On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: > > > "Jolly Roger" wrote in message news:e5febgF4d7fU1@mid.individual.net... > > Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote: >> Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the patent >> holding and security software company VirnetX > >> Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for siding with patent >> trolls gives Apple a slap on the wrist for doing nothing wrong. > > You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you without vaseline, and > you bend over for more. How do they do that: by making products that people want and selling them at prices those people are willing to pay? > >> $300 >> million is a drop in the bucket for a company that takes in over $18 >> billion a quarter. Apple makes enough money in profit to pay this fine >> in a >> couple days. Big deal. > > Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. Bullshit. > >> Laughably lame troll brought to you by Fritz Wuehler. Try c.s.m.a. next >> time, dummy. > > Confused, fangurl This is CSMA. Try not to worry so much. We know the > courts decision was a blow to you. > >
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| From | Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 14:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nsu6sd$687$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #95114 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: > On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: >> >> >> "Jolly Roger" wrote in message >> news:e5febgF4d7fU1@mid.individual.net... >> >> Fritz Wuehler >> <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote: >>> Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the patent >>> holding and security software company VirnetX >> >>> Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for siding >>> with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the wrist for doing >>> nothing wrong. >> >> You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you without >> vaseline, and you bend over for more. > > How do they do that: by making products that people want and > selling them at prices those people are willing to pay? Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb people out there willing to buy it as a fashion statement. >>> $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that takes >>> in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough money in >>> profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big deal. >> >> Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. > > Bullshit. It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and they've been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United States. Try to pause your fanboyism for a day to look it up. - -- Silver Slimer Islam is a disease -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJX8p7bAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+u4DMH/j4I2l7As5aIYqT3yujwmjxQ suiHzziqKLDQ44wFwkEyAfjZP4i6/Ok0XudONEkOwVhYNHKIG7Cao/vAQjvDPl2Y SRLoP+OpDI56zSuvollTG/Ct5z9sxR4oV2I98hvjuXdO44hsZ4IqVLU7sQlK1o3Y 3mYHqjhFO3xQsYKFxX53z/CJIljlgCd63ygqGsLeYG25kk0SewFPfVRMIQ8NfRwG n/JSRJX0WLNzlkq3E7WwPX69AJzLHzYSIFgv8haSOcUXAZToEEPMuN2wsHp+ZX0+ g87lMiyJxdCIDT5A8/xFtdHBoi+R8et8+MHqBUQxK2jP9k0BgrbU4jnNLvB09kA= =r8jr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 11:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <nsu7fa$1ks$1@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #95117 |
On 2016-10-03 11:09 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >> On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Jolly Roger" wrote in message >>> news:e5febgF4d7fU1@mid.individual.net... >>> >>> Fritz Wuehler >>> <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote: >>>> Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the patent >>>> holding and security software company VirnetX >>> >>>> Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for siding >>>> with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the wrist for doing >>>> nothing wrong. >>> >>> You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you without >>> vaseline, and you bend over for more. >> >> How do they do that: by making products that people want and >> selling them at prices those people are willing to pay? > > Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at exorbitant > prices knowing that there are enough dumb people out there willing to > buy it as a fashion statement. In your limited opinion... > >>>> $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that takes >>>> in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough money in >>>> profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big deal. >>> >>> Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. >> >> Bullshit. > > It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and they've > been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. They went to court > over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank > why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United States. Try to pause your > fanboyism for a day to look it up. > Apple pays a HUGE amount in taxes, and they use legal means to avoid paying more than they have to. 'It’s the third thing that’s so interesting though. About this shifting of cash flows and tax debts through time. Last year Apple made provisions for tax of $8.283 billion (Provision for income taxes 8,283). Which was indeed 24.2% of their profits declared in that year. Now, in this trading year they’ve actually paid over $7.682 billion.' <http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/11/01/so-how-much-tax-did-apple-pay/#36b183145fa9> Now let's see a cite for your claim.
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| From | Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 14:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nsu7tu$ast$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #95118 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 2:19 PM, Alan Baker wrote: > On 2016-10-03 11:09 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >> >> On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>> On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Jolly Roger" wrote in message >>>> news:e5febgF4d7fU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> >>>> Fritz Wuehler >>>> <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the patent >>>>> holding and security software company VirnetX >>>> >>>>> Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for >>>>> siding with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the wrist >>>>> for doing nothing wrong. >>>> >>>> You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you without >>>> vaseline, and you bend over for more. >>> >>> How do they do that: by making products that people want and >>> selling them at prices those people are willing to pay? >> >> Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at >> exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb people out >> there willing to buy it as a fashion statement. > > In your limited opinion... > >> >>>>> $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that >>>>> takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough >>>>> money in profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big >>>>> deal. >>>> >>>> Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. >>> >>> Bullshit. >> >> It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and >> they've been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. They >> went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was >> asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United >> States. Try to pause your fanboyism for a day to look it up. >> > > Apple pays a HUGE amount in taxes, and they use legal means to > avoid paying more than they have to. > > 'It’s the third thing that’s so interesting though. About this > shifting of cash flows and tax debts through time. Last year Apple > made provisions for tax of $8.283 billion (Provision for income > taxes 8,283). Which was indeed 24.2% of their profits declared in > that year. Now, in this trading year they’ve actually paid over > $7.682 billion.' > > <http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/11/01/so-how-much-tax-di d-apple-pay/#36b183145fa9> Apple > pays a lot but also avoids paying a lot. To be fair, I would probably do the same in their position since the United States have taken it upon themselves to tax the crap out of corporations to the extent that none of them want to do business in your country anymore but it's still unethical for an American company to do so. > Now let's see a cite for your claim. <http://abcnews.go.com/Business/apple-ceo-tim-cook-testifies/story?id=19 219178> - -- Silver Slimer Islam is a disease -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJX8qMLAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+u7G0H/3GalkFfde2UVFFohktSKFw2 DdZ2bLXMgCKqV4pabqvyKksUycFHZFGWLYHVvp179FMpI6AtHh45AZpYj6muPa9T doddgQVlxc7h1PSQLL2JdJ8JS/70sufc+5qGGUIXwyNirsTV/zTyK9nlHA3EyP8d WtcpDuirpZtrfgC3Md2U5qLHXj6cl/wK8udADeucB7fCTI/63JXvCN5D/n2KR+CH LMm9lOLEdTmkj2lyYx8eL0V/ahubiV8sfOMb0m348DVlrIg6Ul7vYRe1Ub+vKwQK EhC5d2xd+SYuAPcPXbgycO3D1ST9K61u3wySHpNJ7AhQN5Bz1asmwoS88xxO2sM= =BSOi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 11:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <nsu8ee$3jo$1@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #95119 |
On 2016-10-03 11:27 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 2016-10-03 2:19 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >> On 2016-10-03 11:09 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >>> >>> On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>>> On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Jolly Roger" wrote in message >>>>> news:e5febgF4d7fU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> >>>>> Fritz Wuehler >>>>> <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the patent >>>>>> holding and security software company VirnetX >>>>> >>>>>> Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for >>>>>> siding with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the wrist >>>>>> for doing nothing wrong. >>>>> >>>>> You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you without >>>>> vaseline, and you bend over for more. >>>> >>>> How do they do that: by making products that people want and >>>> selling them at prices those people are willing to pay? >>> >>> Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at >>> exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb people out >>> there willing to buy it as a fashion statement. >> >> In your limited opinion... >> >>> >>>>>> $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that >>>>>> takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough >>>>>> money in profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big >>>>>> deal. >>>>> >>>>> Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. >>>> >>>> Bullshit. >>> >>> It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and >>> they've been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. They >>> went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was >>> asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United >>> States. Try to pause your fanboyism for a day to look it up. >>> >> >> Apple pays a HUGE amount in taxes, and they use legal means to >> avoid paying more than they have to. >> >> 'It’s the third thing that’s so interesting though. About this >> shifting of cash flows and tax debts through time. Last year Apple >> made provisions for tax of $8.283 billion (Provision for income >> taxes 8,283). Which was indeed 24.2% of their profits declared in >> that year. Now, in this trading year they’ve actually paid over >> $7.682 billion.' >> >> <http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/11/01/so-how-much-tax-di > d-apple-pay/#36b183145fa9> > > Apple >> > pays a lot but also avoids paying a lot. To be fair, I would > probably do the same in their position since the United States have > taken it upon themselves to tax the crap out of corporations to the > extent that none of them want to do business in your country anymore > but it's still unethical for an American company to do so. > >> Now let's see a cite for your claim. > > <http://abcnews.go.com/Business/apple-ceo-tim-cook-testifies/story?id=19 > 219178> Your claim was: 'They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death' A congressional subcommittee hearing is not a court.
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| From | Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 14:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nsu9lc$fu2$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #95120 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote: > On 2016-10-03 11:27 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >> >> On 2016-10-03 2:19 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>> On 2016-10-03 11:09 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >>>> >>>> On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>> On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Jolly Roger" wrote in message >>>>>> news:e5febgF4d7fU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> >>>>>> Fritz Wuehler >>>>>> <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the >>>>>>> patent holding and security software company VirnetX >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for >>>>>>> siding with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the >>>>>>> wrist for doing nothing wrong. >>>>>> >>>>>> You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you >>>>>> without vaseline, and you bend over for more. >>>>> >>>>> How do they do that: by making products that people want >>>>> and selling them at prices those people are willing to >>>>> pay? >>>> >>>> Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at >>>> exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb people >>>> out there willing to buy it as a fashion statement. >>> >>> In your limited opinion... >>> >>>> >>>>>>> $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company >>>>>>> that takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes >>>>>>> enough money in profit to pay this fine in a couple >>>>>>> days. Big deal. >>>>>> >>>>>> Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. >>>>> >>>>> Bullshit. >>>> >>>> It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and >>>> they've been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. >>>> They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim >>>> Cook was asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying taxes in >>>> the United States. Try to pause your fanboyism for a day to >>>> look it up. >>>> >>> >>> Apple pays a HUGE amount in taxes, and they use legal means to >>> avoid paying more than they have to. >>> >>> 'It’s the third thing that’s so interesting though. About this >>> shifting of cash flows and tax debts through time. Last year >>> Apple made provisions for tax of $8.283 billion (Provision for >>> income taxes 8,283). Which was indeed 24.2% of their profits >>> declared in that year. Now, in this trading year they’ve >>> actually paid over $7.682 billion.' >>> >>> <http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/11/01/so-how-much-tax- di >> >>> d-apple-pay/#36b183145fa9> >> >> Apple >>> >> pays a lot but also avoids paying a lot. To be fair, I would >> probably do the same in their position since the United States >> have taken it upon themselves to tax the crap out of corporations >> to the extent that none of them want to do business in your >> country anymore but it's still unethical for an American company >> to do so. >> >>> Now let's see a cite for your claim. >> >> <http://abcnews.go.com/Business/apple-ceo-tim-cook-testifies/story?id =19 >> >> 219178> > > Your claim was: > > 'They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death' > > A congressional subcommittee hearing is not a court. And yet Apple received a _court_ order. <https://secure.marketwatch.com/story/tim-cook-apple-court-order-threate ns-the-security-of-customers-2016-02-17> Geez, stop being a retarded fanboy. - -- Silver Slimer Islam is a disease -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJX8qn6AAoJEIwFfgf/rr+ukk4H/0dl9Sd2bM731V7eY6NluX1R a3leaq5Vol47A1dh6FkF81MFO8+FFGUSqIBL8g7wLTGPLGYqU1bc9Wbn5sEoN4We DnXgaS0dvq8wNBt2j337Km73pJsNQ7Vy+RGzxORMTSjJocHC4ldSE49Ws1iWDgBN O7fv0+4i3NHkytgp4QF+zVgclqrzCAqMRrUcUN5G+KJYoCw2f7QGHck8IE4OCvhO bVqpdNC9s8+8ZiKWsCh5vKVvQS1kKWfDrHHlPYj03Iibxa4FNvrYi5kOvYPr0zvv SNnDZ195ju3vRABFvbs060IK2yHhHkwPQeYwNCSqBuAh26fgWztIYSnt5hhe78U= =viEB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 11:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <nsu9qb$6lq$1@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #95121 |
On 2016-10-03 11:56 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 2016-10-03 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >> On 2016-10-03 11:27 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >>> >>> On 2016-10-03 2:19 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>>> On 2016-10-03 11:09 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >>>>> >>>>> On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>>> On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Jolly Roger" wrote in message >>>>>>> news:e5febgF4d7fU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fritz Wuehler >>>>>>> <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the >>>>>>>> patent holding and security software company VirnetX >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for >>>>>>>> siding with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the >>>>>>>> wrist for doing nothing wrong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you >>>>>>> without vaseline, and you bend over for more. >>>>>> >>>>>> How do they do that: by making products that people want >>>>>> and selling them at prices those people are willing to >>>>>> pay? >>>>> >>>>> Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at >>>>> exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb people >>>>> out there willing to buy it as a fashion statement. >>>> >>>> In your limited opinion... >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company >>>>>>>> that takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes >>>>>>>> enough money in profit to pay this fine in a couple >>>>>>>> days. Big deal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bullshit. >>>>> >>>>> It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and >>>>> they've been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. >>>>> They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim >>>>> Cook was asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying taxes in >>>>> the United States. Try to pause your fanboyism for a day to >>>>> look it up. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Apple pays a HUGE amount in taxes, and they use legal means to >>>> avoid paying more than they have to. >>>> >>>> 'It’s the third thing that’s so interesting though. About this >>>> shifting of cash flows and tax debts through time. Last year >>>> Apple made provisions for tax of $8.283 billion (Provision for >>>> income taxes 8,283). Which was indeed 24.2% of their profits >>>> declared in that year. Now, in this trading year they’ve >>>> actually paid over $7.682 billion.' >>>> >>>> <http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/11/01/so-how-much-tax- > di >>> >>>> > d-apple-pay/#36b183145fa9> >>> >>> Apple >>>> >>> pays a lot but also avoids paying a lot. To be fair, I would >>> probably do the same in their position since the United States >>> have taken it upon themselves to tax the crap out of corporations >>> to the extent that none of them want to do business in your >>> country anymore but it's still unethical for an American company >>> to do so. >>> >>>> Now let's see a cite for your claim. >>> >>> <http://abcnews.go.com/Business/apple-ceo-tim-cook-testifies/story?id > =19 >>> >>> > 219178> >> >> Your claim was: >> >> 'They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death' >> >> A congressional subcommittee hearing is not a court. > > And yet Apple received a _court_ order. > > <https://secure.marketwatch.com/story/tim-cook-apple-court-order-threate > ns-the-security-of-customers-2016-02-17> > Which has nothing whatsoever to do with Apple's taxes... ...nor did they even receive it at roughly the same time as your earlier cite. > Geez, stop being a retarded fanboy. > Irony.
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| From | Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 15:01 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nsu9ub$fu2$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #95121 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 2:56 PM, Silver Slimer wrote: > On 2016-10-03 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >> On 2016-10-03 11:27 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >>> >>> On 2016-10-03 2:19 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>>> On 2016-10-03 11:09 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >>>>> >>>>> On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>>> On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Jolly Roger" wrote in message >>>>>>> news:e5febgF4d7fU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fritz Wuehler >>>>>>> <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the >>>>>>>> patent holding and security software company VirnetX >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known >>>>>>>> for siding with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on >>>>>>>> the wrist for doing nothing wrong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you >>>>>>> without vaseline, and you bend over for more. >>>>>> >>>>>> How do they do that: by making products that people want >>>>>> and selling them at prices those people are willing to >>>>>> pay? >>>>> >>>>> Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at >>>>> exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb people >>>>> out there willing to buy it as a fashion statement. >>>> >>>> In your limited opinion... >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company >>>>>>>> that takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes >>>>>>>> enough money in profit to pay this fine in a couple >>>>>>>> days. Big deal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bullshit. >>>>> >>>>> It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and >>>>> they've been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. >>>>> They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and >>>>> Tim Cook was asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying >>>>> taxes in the United States. Try to pause your fanboyism >>>>> for a day to look it up. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Apple pays a HUGE amount in taxes, and they use legal means >>>> to avoid paying more than they have to. >>>> >>>> 'It’s the third thing that’s so interesting though. About >>>> this shifting of cash flows and tax debts through time. Last >>>> year Apple made provisions for tax of $8.283 billion >>>> (Provision for income taxes 8,283). Which was indeed 24.2% >>>> of their profits declared in that year. Now, in this trading >>>> year they’ve actually paid over $7.682 billion.' >>>> >>>> <http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/11/01/so-how-much-tax - - > >>>> >>>> di >>> >>>> > d-apple-pay/#36b183145fa9> >>> >>> Apple >>>> >>> pays a lot but also avoids paying a lot. To be fair, I would >>> probably do the same in their position since the United States >>> have taken it upon themselves to tax the crap out of >>> corporations to the extent that none of them want to do >>> business in your country anymore but it's still unethical for >>> an American company to do so. >>> >>>> Now let's see a cite for your claim. >>> >>> <http://abcnews.go.com/Business/apple-ceo-tim-cook-testifies/story?i d > >>> >>> =19 >>> >>> > 219178> > >> Your claim was: > >> 'They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death' > >> A congressional subcommittee hearing is not a court. > > And yet Apple received a _court_ order. > > <https://secure.marketwatch.com/story/tim-cook-apple-court-order-threa te > > > ns-the-security-of-customers-2016-02-17> > > Geez, stop being a retarded fanboy. Whoops, I posted the wrong link there. One, about what's going on in the United States by Apple: <http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/14/tim-cook-addresses-apples-us-taxes-says- no-repatriation-without-fair-rate.html> ... they want a fair rate but: <http://ca.finance.ret1p.global.media.yahoo.com/news/tim-cook-attacks-eu - -tax-114817858.html> Turns out they weren't paying their fair share according to the _court_ . - -- Silver Slimer Islam is a disease -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJX8qsZAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+uc84IAIPlCO3u0N4U5gjAvwgbGSaO z/JoKZ0a8hDlMG+q6xw1vxsakOEyQd+Q0g7k/+C2/j9pTo8t7p+bxa1ZfrNE4PqB 0hXclKNNyx/h8IdBpRiclurPyMi+zwH84NcXIBXe7dyOseD305x81qLogdGra1cw Dfu757c4tjpIPp3AqYuvflmnKGh0m6wTmgwM6b2FlE9oOV7xK6NYlHyujyG0IYzr c8iQMumds/FpEypNCSHKgZJeKfcfks8BV5L6xPpjqrIqNPNeQlrVAnv1MDEXwv58 2W+quH2/injsc+R16Tb/PLifmBx63uMlxNF4GDlXAVvlI5Sl40Z1gSptsjZbCOM= =0MbM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 12:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <nsua91$7eo$1@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #95123 |
On 2016-10-03 12:01 PM, Silver Slimer wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 2016-10-03 2:56 PM, Silver Slimer wrote: >> On 2016-10-03 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>> On 2016-10-03 11:27 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >>>> >>>> On 2016-10-03 2:19 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>> On 2016-10-03 11:09 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>>>> On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Jolly Roger" wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:e5febgF4d7fU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Fritz Wuehler >>>>>>>> <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the >>>>>>>>> patent holding and security software company VirnetX >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known >>>>>>>>> for siding with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on >>>>>>>>> the wrist for doing nothing wrong. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you >>>>>>>> without vaseline, and you bend over for more. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How do they do that: by making products that people want >>>>>>> and selling them at prices those people are willing to >>>>>>> pay? >>>>>> >>>>>> Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at >>>>>> exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb people >>>>>> out there willing to buy it as a fashion statement. >>>>> >>>>> In your limited opinion... >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company >>>>>>>>> that takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes >>>>>>>>> enough money in profit to pay this fine in a couple >>>>>>>>> days. Big deal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bullshit. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and >>>>>> they've been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. >>>>>> They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and >>>>>> Tim Cook was asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying >>>>>> taxes in the United States. Try to pause your fanboyism >>>>>> for a day to look it up. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Apple pays a HUGE amount in taxes, and they use legal means >>>>> to avoid paying more than they have to. >>>>> >>>>> 'It’s the third thing that’s so interesting though. About >>>>> this shifting of cash flows and tax debts through time. Last >>>>> year Apple made provisions for tax of $8.283 billion >>>>> (Provision for income taxes 8,283). Which was indeed 24.2% >>>>> of their profits declared in that year. Now, in this trading >>>>> year they’ve actually paid over $7.682 billion.' >>>>> >>>>> <http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/11/01/so-how-much-tax > - - >> >>>>> >>>>> > di >>>> >>>>> >> d-apple-pay/#36b183145fa9> >>>> >>>> Apple >>>>> >>>> pays a lot but also avoids paying a lot. To be fair, I would >>>> probably do the same in their position since the United States >>>> have taken it upon themselves to tax the crap out of >>>> corporations to the extent that none of them want to do >>>> business in your country anymore but it's still unethical for >>>> an American company to do so. >>>> >>>>> Now let's see a cite for your claim. >>>> >>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/Business/apple-ceo-tim-cook-testifies/story?i > d >> >>>> >>>> > =19 >>>> >>>> >> 219178> >> >>> Your claim was: >> >>> 'They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death' >> >>> A congressional subcommittee hearing is not a court. >> >> And yet Apple received a _court_ order. >> >> <https://secure.marketwatch.com/story/tim-cook-apple-court-order-threa > te >> >> >> > ns-the-security-of-customers-2016-02-17> >> >> Geez, stop being a retarded fanboy. > > Whoops, I posted the wrong link there. > > One, about what's going on in the United States by Apple: > <http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/14/tim-cook-addresses-apples-us-taxes-says- > no-repatriation-without-fair-rate.html> > ... they want a fair rate but: > > <http://ca.finance.ret1p.global.media.yahoo.com/news/tim-cook-attacks-eu > - -tax-114817858.html> > > Turns out they weren't paying their fair share according to the _court_ No. The "European Commission" is not a court.
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| From | Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 15:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nsubt4$q01$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #95124 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 3:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote: > On 2016-10-03 12:01 PM, Silver Slimer wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >> >> On 2016-10-03 2:56 PM, Silver Slimer wrote: >>> On 2016-10-03 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>>> On 2016-10-03 11:27 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >>>>> >>>>> On 2016-10-03 2:19 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>>> On 2016-10-03 11:09 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: >>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Jolly Roger" wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:e5febgF4d7fU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Fritz Wuehler >>>>>>>>> <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to >>>>>>>>>> the patent holding and security software company >>>>>>>>>> VirnetX >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court >>>>>>>>>> known for siding with patent trolls gives Apple a >>>>>>>>>> slap on the wrist for doing nothing wrong. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you >>>>>>>>> without vaseline, and you bend over for more. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How do they do that: by making products that people >>>>>>>> want and selling them at prices those people are >>>>>>>> willing to pay? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware >>>>>>> at exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb >>>>>>> people out there willing to buy it as a fashion >>>>>>> statement. >>>>>> >>>>>> In your limited opinion... >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a >>>>>>>>>> company that takes in over $18 billion a quarter. >>>>>>>>>> Apple makes enough money in profit to pay this >>>>>>>>>> fine in a couple days. Big deal. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Especially in the light of they don't pay any >>>>>>>>> taxes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bullshit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere >>>>>>> and they've been avoiding giving the United States even >>>>>>> a dime. They went to court over it near and after Jobs' >>>>>>> death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank why Apple >>>>>>> avoids paying taxes in the United States. Try to pause >>>>>>> your fanboyism for a day to look it up. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple pays a HUGE amount in taxes, and they use legal >>>>>> means to avoid paying more than they have to. >>>>>> >>>>>> 'It’s the third thing that’s so interesting though. >>>>>> About this shifting of cash flows and tax debts through >>>>>> time. Last year Apple made provisions for tax of $8.283 >>>>>> billion (Provision for income taxes 8,283). Which was >>>>>> indeed 24.2% of their profits declared in that year. Now, >>>>>> in this trading year they’ve actually paid over $7.682 >>>>>> billion.' >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/11/01/so-how-much-t ax >> >>>>>> - - - >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> di >>>>> >>>>>> >>> d-apple-pay/#36b183145fa9> >>>>> >>>>> Apple >>>>>> >>>>> pays a lot but also avoids paying a lot. To be fair, I >>>>> would probably do the same in their position since the >>>>> United States have taken it upon themselves to tax the crap >>>>> out of corporations to the extent that none of them want to >>>>> do business in your country anymore but it's still >>>>> unethical for an American company to do so. >>>>> >>>>>> Now let's see a cite for your claim. >>>>> >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/Business/apple-ceo-tim-cook-testifies/story ?i >> >>>>> d >>> >>>>> >>>>> >> =19 >>>>> >>>>> >>> 219178> >>> >>>> Your claim was: >>> >>>> 'They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death' >>> >>>> A congressional subcommittee hearing is not a court. >>> >>> And yet Apple received a _court_ order. >>> >>> <https://secure.marketwatch.com/story/tim-cook-apple-court-order-thr ea >> >>> te >>> >>> >>> >> ns-the-security-of-customers-2016-02-17> >>> >>> Geez, stop being a retarded fanboy. >> >> Whoops, I posted the wrong link there. >> >> One, about what's going on in the United States by Apple: >> <http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/14/tim-cook-addresses-apples-us-taxes-sa ys- >> >> no-repatriation-without-fair-rate.html> >> ... they want a fair rate but: >> >> <http://ca.finance.ret1p.global.media.yahoo.com/news/tim-cook-attacks - -eu >> >> - - -tax-114817858.html> >> >> Turns out they weren't paying their fair share according to the >> _court_ > > No. > > The "European Commission" is not a court. And yet they were still forced to pay back taxes as would be proscribed by a _court_. - -- Silver Slimer Islam is a disease -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJX8rLyAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+uvVgH/A3y9AKQc5ZH1T+/6UzquNZk C4iW0xzm+oRGJHS6cTJBDCMNGsQHzxhBPJ+jxwXccFeKlMP2BdJ+upQ+WsuhMAz/ 63os6cT90fUrm802GhZsYKYZRbarOqubW5iCHgzU2eg55VkTid8QsV0nIggj63E4 OKHfjlzVT5A9Xo3UD3Lu38MBJIG6J95wXqiMOlB+zum1rvciUZcXQDyRijvVFoVg kuuPm7VZuglDYtb+R0T9VVu9I3JKYLcgpTEFDlqTvBf8JP49eLOctN2ydq7e3Hgg 4sbp4h80WBaBdkLrd3uvksGr1cmq98rqOusWRihMHotJkVNAqhhwKq41AxeMTHA= =KCoz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 12:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <nsucd8$bua$1@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #95128 |
On 2016-10-03 12:35 PM, Silver Slimer wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 2016-10-03 3:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >> On 2016-10-03 12:01 PM, Silver Slimer wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >>> >>> On 2016-10-03 2:56 PM, Silver Slimer wrote: >>>> On 2016-10-03 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>> On 2016-10-03 11:27 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2016-10-03 2:19 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>>>> On 2016-10-03 11:09 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: >>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Jolly Roger" wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:e5febgF4d7fU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fritz Wuehler >>>>>>>>>> <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to >>>>>>>>>>> the patent holding and security software company >>>>>>>>>>> VirnetX >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court >>>>>>>>>>> known for siding with patent trolls gives Apple a >>>>>>>>>>> slap on the wrist for doing nothing wrong. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you >>>>>>>>>> without vaseline, and you bend over for more. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How do they do that: by making products that people >>>>>>>>> want and selling them at prices those people are >>>>>>>>> willing to pay? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware >>>>>>>> at exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb >>>>>>>> people out there willing to buy it as a fashion >>>>>>>> statement. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In your limited opinion... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a >>>>>>>>>>> company that takes in over $18 billion a quarter. >>>>>>>>>>> Apple makes enough money in profit to pay this >>>>>>>>>>> fine in a couple days. Big deal. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Especially in the light of they don't pay any >>>>>>>>>> taxes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bullshit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere >>>>>>>> and they've been avoiding giving the United States even >>>>>>>> a dime. They went to court over it near and after Jobs' >>>>>>>> death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank why Apple >>>>>>>> avoids paying taxes in the United States. Try to pause >>>>>>>> your fanboyism for a day to look it up. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apple pays a HUGE amount in taxes, and they use legal >>>>>>> means to avoid paying more than they have to. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'It’s the third thing that’s so interesting though. >>>>>>> About this shifting of cash flows and tax debts through >>>>>>> time. Last year Apple made provisions for tax of $8.283 >>>>>>> billion (Provision for income taxes 8,283). Which was >>>>>>> indeed 24.2% of their profits declared in that year. Now, >>>>>>> in this trading year they’ve actually paid over $7.682 >>>>>>> billion.' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/11/01/so-how-much-t > ax >>> >>>>>>> > - - - >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> di >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> d-apple-pay/#36b183145fa9> >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple >>>>>>> >>>>>> pays a lot but also avoids paying a lot. To be fair, I >>>>>> would probably do the same in their position since the >>>>>> United States have taken it upon themselves to tax the crap >>>>>> out of corporations to the extent that none of them want to >>>>>> do business in your country anymore but it's still >>>>>> unethical for an American company to do so. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Now let's see a cite for your claim. >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/Business/apple-ceo-tim-cook-testifies/story > ?i >>> >>>>>> > d >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> =19 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> 219178> >>>> >>>>> Your claim was: >>>> >>>>> 'They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death' >>>> >>>>> A congressional subcommittee hearing is not a court. >>>> >>>> And yet Apple received a _court_ order. >>>> >>>> <https://secure.marketwatch.com/story/tim-cook-apple-court-order-thr > ea >>> >>>> > te >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ns-the-security-of-customers-2016-02-17> >>>> >>>> Geez, stop being a retarded fanboy. >>> >>> Whoops, I posted the wrong link there. >>> >>> One, about what's going on in the United States by Apple: >>> <http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/14/tim-cook-addresses-apples-us-taxes-sa > ys- >>> >>> > no-repatriation-without-fair-rate.html> >>> ... they want a fair rate but: >>> >>> <http://ca.finance.ret1p.global.media.yahoo.com/news/tim-cook-attacks > - -eu >>> >>> > - - -tax-114817858.html> >>> >>> Turns out they weren't paying their fair share according to the >>> _court_ >> >> No. >> >> The "European Commission" is not a court. > > And yet they were still forced to pay back taxes as would be > proscribed by a _court_. Incorrect, and a dodge. Your initial claim: 'They [Apple] went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United States.' So. 1. They didn't go to court. 2. The European Commission is not a court. 3. Apple didn't go to them either. 4. The group that asked Tim Cook "point-blank" was not the European Commission. It was a US sub-committee. 5. They didn't say that Apple avoids paying taxes in the US. 6. Apple DOES pay billions in taxes in the US. You're just digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole, here.
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| From | Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 15:36 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <gryIz.29924$nC2.18738@fx27.iad> |
| In reply to | #95124 |
On 2016-10-03 15:07, Alan Baker wrote: > The "European Commission" is not a court. Irrelevant, since a) the EU is not a Common Law jurisdiction; and b) the Commission can issue binding orders. The closest analogue in Common Law countries would be a quasi-judicial administrative law tribunal. Ireland is trying to wiggle out of the binding order re: Apple's tax obligations. -- Best, Wolf K kirkwood40.blogspot.ca
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 12:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <nsucfs$bua$2@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #95129 |
On 2016-10-03 12:36 PM, Wolf K wrote: > On 2016-10-03 15:07, Alan Baker wrote: >> The "European Commission" is not a court. > > Irrelevant, since > a) the EU is not a Common Law jurisdiction; and > b) the Commission can issue binding orders. > > The closest analogue in Common Law countries would be a quasi-judicial > administrative law tribunal. > > Ireland is trying to wiggle out of the binding order re: Apple's tax > obligations. > None of that makes "Slimer's" claims into truth. What this boils down to is GREED. The EC/EU doesn't actually CARE about this as a matter of principle: they care because they want the MONEY.
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| From | Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 20:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e5furhF8akdU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #95117 |
On 2016-10-03, Silver Slimer <> wrote: > > On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >> On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Jolly Roger" wrote in message >>> news:e5febgF4d7fU1@mid.individual.net... >>> >>> Fritz Wuehler >>> <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote: >>>> Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the patent >>>> holding and security software company VirnetX >>> >>>> Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for siding >>>> with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the wrist for doing >>>> nothing wrong. >>> >>> You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you without >>> vaseline, and you bend over for more. >> >> How do they do that: by making products that people want and >> selling them at prices those people are willing to pay? > > Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at exorbitant > prices knowing that there are enough dumb people out there willing to > buy it as a fashion statement. I wouldn't go so far as to call them dumb people but they are people who like the Apple culture, prefer the ease of use right from the moment they take the system out of the box and so forth. And Apple support is number one by far. People are willing to pay extra for that. That being said, there is nothing magical about Apple hardware or software for that matter with one exception and that is it is all controlled tightly (although that seems to be fading a bit with the last updates) so it tends to work well together. >>>> $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that takes >>>> in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough money in >>>> profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big deal. >>> >>> Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. >> >> Bullshit. > > It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and they've > been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. They went to court > over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank > why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United States. Try to pause your > fanboyism for a day to look it up. As long as Apple isn't doing anything illegal, they would be doing their shareholders a disservice if they were paying more taxes than legally required. The same goes for Trump BTW. What kind of an idiot doesn't try to reduce his taxes LEGALLY by using every line in the tax code to his advantage? Every single one of us in USA does it every year. Key word LEGALLY.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 17:17 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <031020161717198420%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #95139 |
In article <e5furhF8akdU1@mid.individual.net>, Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> wrote: > > As long as Apple isn't doing anything illegal, they would be doing their > shareholders a disservice if they were paying more taxes than legally > required. > > The same goes for Trump BTW. > What kind of an idiot doesn't try to reduce his taxes LEGALLY by using > every line in the tax code to his advantage? > > Every single one of us in USA does it every year. > Key word LEGALLY. yep. <https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Learned_Hand> Billings Learned Hand (January 27, 1872 August 18, 1961), usually called simply Learned Hand, was an American judge famous as an avid supporter of free speech and for applying economic reasoning to American tort law. He is noted as one of the most influential American judges to have never served on the Supreme Court of the United States. ... € Any one may so arrange his affairs that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which will best pay the Treasury; there is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes. € Helvering v. Gregory, 69 F.2d 809, 810-11 (2d Cir. 1934). ... € Over and over again courts have said that there is nothing sinister in so arranging one's affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everybody does so, rich or poor; and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands: taxes are enforced exactions, not voluntary contributions. To demand more in the name of morals is mere cant. € Commissioner v. Newman, 159 F2d 848 (1947).
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| From | GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 16:48 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nsun71$107$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #95139 |
On 10/03/2016 02:54 PM, Jim Polaski wrote: > On 2016-10-03, Silver Slimer <> wrote: >> >> On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>> On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Jolly Roger" wrote in message >>>> news:e5febgF4d7fU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> >>>> Fritz Wuehler >>>> <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote: >>>>> Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the patent >>>>> holding and security software company VirnetX >>>> >>>>> Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for siding >>>>> with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the wrist for doing >>>>> nothing wrong. >>>> >>>> You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you without >>>> vaseline, and you bend over for more. >>> >>> How do they do that: by making products that people want and >>> selling them at prices those people are willing to pay? >> >> Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at exorbitant >> prices knowing that there are enough dumb people out there willing to >> buy it as a fashion statement. > > I wouldn't go so far as to call them dumb people but they are people > who like the Apple culture, prefer the ease of use right from the moment > they take the system out of the box and so forth. > And Apple support is number one by far. > > People are willing to pay extra for that. > That being said, there is nothing magical about Apple hardware or > software for that matter with one exception and that is it is all > controlled tightly (although that seems to be fading a bit with the last > updates) so it tends to work well together. > > >>>>> $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that takes >>>>> in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough money in >>>>> profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big deal. >>>> >>>> Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. >>> >>> Bullshit. >> >> It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and they've >> been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. They went to court >> over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank >> why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United States. Try to pause your >> fanboyism for a day to look it up. > > As long as Apple isn't doing anything illegal, they would be doing their > shareholders a disservice if they were paying more taxes than legally > required. > > The same goes for Trump BTW. > What kind of an idiot doesn't try to reduce his taxes LEGALLY by using > every line in the tax code to his advantage? > > Every single one of us in USA does it every year. > Key word LEGALLY. > Hehehe... even Hillary uses the tax code to her advantage. She wrote off 'Used old underwear' on her return. I got this info from Hannity off of his radio network.
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| From | Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 22:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e5g5vbFa185U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #95154 |
On 2016-10-03, GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote: > On 10/03/2016 02:54 PM, Jim Polaski wrote: >> On 2016-10-03, Silver Slimer <> wrote: >>> >>> On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>>> On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Jolly Roger" wrote in message >>>>> news:e5febgF4d7fU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> >>>>> Fritz Wuehler >>>>> <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote: >>>>>> Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the patent >>>>>> holding and security software company VirnetX >>>>> >>>>>> Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for siding >>>>>> with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the wrist for doing >>>>>> nothing wrong. >>>>> >>>>> You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you without >>>>> vaseline, and you bend over for more. >>>> >>>> How do they do that: by making products that people want and >>>> selling them at prices those people are willing to pay? >>> >>> Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at exorbitant >>> prices knowing that there are enough dumb people out there willing to >>> buy it as a fashion statement. >> >> I wouldn't go so far as to call them dumb people but they are people >> who like the Apple culture, prefer the ease of use right from the moment >> they take the system out of the box and so forth. >> And Apple support is number one by far. >> >> People are willing to pay extra for that. >> That being said, there is nothing magical about Apple hardware or >> software for that matter with one exception and that is it is all >> controlled tightly (although that seems to be fading a bit with the last >> updates) so it tends to work well together. >> >> >>>>>> $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that takes >>>>>> in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough money in >>>>>> profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big deal. >>>>> >>>>> Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. >>>> >>>> Bullshit. >>> >>> It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and they've >>> been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. They went to court >>> over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank >>> why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United States. Try to pause your >>> fanboyism for a day to look it up. >> >> As long as Apple isn't doing anything illegal, they would be doing their >> shareholders a disservice if they were paying more taxes than legally >> required. >> >> The same goes for Trump BTW. >> What kind of an idiot doesn't try to reduce his taxes LEGALLY by using >> every line in the tax code to his advantage? >> >> Every single one of us in USA does it every year. >> Key word LEGALLY. >> > > Hehehe... even Hillary uses the tax code to her advantage. She wrote > off 'Used old underwear' on her return. I got this info from Hannity > off of his radio network. Probably because the local landfill refused to take it.
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| From | Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 19:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nsuo57$5p8$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #95157 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 6:55 PM, Jim Polaski wrote: > On 2016-10-03, GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote: >> On 10/03/2016 02:54 PM, Jim Polaski wrote: >>> On 2016-10-03, Silver Slimer <> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>> On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Jolly Roger" wrote in message >>>>>> news:e5febgF4d7fU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> >>>>>> Fritz Wuehler >>>>>> <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the >>>>>>> patent holding and security software company VirnetX >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for >>>>>>> siding with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the >>>>>>> wrist for doing nothing wrong. >>>>>> >>>>>> You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you >>>>>> without vaseline, and you bend over for more. >>>>> >>>>> How do they do that: by making products that people want >>>>> and selling them at prices those people are willing to >>>>> pay? >>>> >>>> Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at >>>> exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb people >>>> out there willing to buy it as a fashion statement. >>> >>> I wouldn't go so far as to call them dumb people but they are >>> people who like the Apple culture, prefer the ease of use right >>> from the moment they take the system out of the box and so >>> forth. And Apple support is number one by far. >>> >>> People are willing to pay extra for that. That being said, >>> there is nothing magical about Apple hardware or software for >>> that matter with one exception and that is it is all controlled >>> tightly (although that seems to be fading a bit with the last >>> updates) so it tends to work well together. >>> >>> >>>>>>> $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that >>>>>>> takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough >>>>>>> money in profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big >>>>>>> deal. >>>>>> >>>>>> Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. >>>>> >>>>> Bullshit. >>>> >>>> It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and >>>> they've been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. >>>> They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim >>>> Cook was asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying taxes in >>>> the United States. Try to pause your fanboyism for a day to >>>> look it up. >>> >>> As long as Apple isn't doing anything illegal, they would be >>> doing their shareholders a disservice if they were paying more >>> taxes than legally required. >>> >>> The same goes for Trump BTW. What kind of an idiot doesn't try >>> to reduce his taxes LEGALLY by using every line in the tax code >>> to his advantage? >>> >>> Every single one of us in USA does it every year. Key word >>> LEGALLY. >>> >> >> Hehehe... even Hillary uses the tax code to her advantage. She >> wrote off 'Used old underwear' on her return. I got this info >> from Hannity off of his radio network. > > Probably because the local landfill refused to take it. I hear that her underwear is awesome at removing rust from metal though. - -- Silver Slimer Islam is a disease -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJX8uP0AAoJEIwFfgf/rr+uGwgH/35V/jFYWhXltV0EDndNUlyw wkGqlLEU7qzAQ0nSaRDKfXfWD6b8tQfdjWblzRgNkZ8F5gZELbmza8xIHp8xFPol qTk8K+UorufpZ5igeQJVZPlIr7MjjU3z4JACNhVBcJ69IF3dGaB0Lv19aE9D+d4j Kt4XkbdggYdYA6zjjXsjEguTRS8ziUZJkue4zrVw7u5fyW6m69HgPZ0rSlxGGY8k XCRySWjmndU++YuzaIfrR28HOI5pMzoRpR3vPM+qMTU5CUEyBI9IKXSiehK59myK 8lhNgNU767UMU1rcqgms4WR0wV5cGEeQ99D6C64/eaTg2MJ94yWfL7AIp6JxEek= =z2Mm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 23:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e5g77vFa9seU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #95162 |
On 2016-10-03, Silver Slimer <> wrote: > > On 2016-10-03 6:55 PM, Jim Polaski wrote: >> On 2016-10-03, GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote: >>> On 10/03/2016 02:54 PM, Jim Polaski wrote: >>>> On 2016-10-03, Silver Slimer <> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>>> On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Jolly Roger" wrote in message >>>>>>> news:e5febgF4d7fU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fritz Wuehler >>>>>>> <fritz@spamexpire-201610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the >>>>>>>> patent holding and security software company VirnetX >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for >>>>>>>> siding with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the >>>>>>>> wrist for doing nothing wrong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you >>>>>>> without vaseline, and you bend over for more. >>>>>> >>>>>> How do they do that: by making products that people want >>>>>> and selling them at prices those people are willing to >>>>>> pay? >>>>> >>>>> Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at >>>>> exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb people >>>>> out there willing to buy it as a fashion statement. >>>> >>>> I wouldn't go so far as to call them dumb people but they are >>>> people who like the Apple culture, prefer the ease of use right >>>> from the moment they take the system out of the box and so >>>> forth. And Apple support is number one by far. >>>> >>>> People are willing to pay extra for that. That being said, >>>> there is nothing magical about Apple hardware or software for >>>> that matter with one exception and that is it is all controlled >>>> tightly (although that seems to be fading a bit with the last >>>> updates) so it tends to work well together. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that >>>>>>>> takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough >>>>>>>> money in profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big >>>>>>>> deal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bullshit. >>>>> >>>>> It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and >>>>> they've been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. >>>>> They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim >>>>> Cook was asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying taxes in >>>>> the United States. Try to pause your fanboyism for a day to >>>>> look it up. >>>> >>>> As long as Apple isn't doing anything illegal, they would be >>>> doing their shareholders a disservice if they were paying more >>>> taxes than legally required. >>>> >>>> The same goes for Trump BTW. What kind of an idiot doesn't try >>>> to reduce his taxes LEGALLY by using every line in the tax code >>>> to his advantage? >>>> >>>> Every single one of us in USA does it every year. Key word >>>> LEGALLY. >>>> >>> >>> Hehehe... even Hillary uses the tax code to her advantage. She >>> wrote off 'Used old underwear' on her return. I got this info >>> from Hannity off of his radio network. >> >> Probably because the local landfill refused to take it. > > I hear that her underwear is awesome at removing rust from metal though. > LMAO!!
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