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  Safari's Storage of Bookmarks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-01 16:21 -0700
    Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-01 19:31 -0400
      Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-01 17:09 -0700
    Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-06-01 18:45 -0500
      Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-06-01 19:58 -0400
      Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-01 17:11 -0700
      Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-06-02 02:39 +0000
        Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-06-02 08:48 -0400
          Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-06-02 10:15 -0400
            Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-06-02 11:01 -0400
              Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-06-02 11:22 -0400
                Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-06-02 09:14 -0700
                  Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2015-06-02 15:02 -0700
                    Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-06-02 15:59 -0700
                    Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-06-02 20:29 -0400
                    Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-06-04 18:46 +1200
                Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-06-04 18:46 +1200
                Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2015-06-06 08:55 -0500
            Newsreader settings (was Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-06-02 18:11 +0000
              Re: Newsreader settings (was Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks) Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-06-02 14:53 -0400
    Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-06-02 02:37 +0000

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#76039 — Safari's Storage of Bookmarks

I have a few hundred bookmarks in a few score categories and managed to 
delete a boatload of them.

What file can I snatch from Time Machine to get yesterday's bookmarks back?

Thanks for any aid!

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#76040

In article <2015060116211142553-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> I have a few hundred bookmarks in a few score categories and managed to 
> delete a boatload of them.
> 
> What file can I snatch from Time Machine to get yesterday's bookmarks back?

that depends on which browser

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#76043

On 2015-06-01 23:31:56 +0000, nospam said:

> In article <2015060116211142553-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> 
>> I have a few hundred bookmarks in a few score categories and managed to
>> delete a boatload of them.
>> 
>> What file can I snatch from Time Machine to get yesterday's bookmarks back?
> 
> that depends on which browser

So sorry--I'm using Safari 8.06 with Mac OS 10.10.3.

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#76041

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On Monday, 01 June 2015 16:21 -0700, 
 in article <2015060116211142553-xxx@yyyzzz>, 
 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> I have a few hundred bookmarks in a few score categories and managed 
> to delete a boatload of them.

You forgot to mention what browser you're using.

> What file can I snatch from Time Machine to get yesterday's 
> bookmarks back?

Before turning to your Time Machine backsup, your previous bookmarks 
may still be hanging around, as these may get backed up by your web 
browser.

Firefox:
/Users/$USER/Library/Application\ Support/Firefox/Profiles/[something_with_epoch_date]/bookmarkbackups/

Goole Chrome:

/Users/$USER/Library/Application\ Support/Google/Chrome/Default/Bookmarks
/Users/$USER/Library/Application\ Support/Google/Chrome/Default/Bookmarks.bak

You'll need to access your backups, if you're dealing with Safari.

/Users/$USER/Library/Safari/Bookmarks.plist

> Thanks for any aid!

HTH.

-- 
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
 Be kind to animals; kiss a shark.

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#76042

In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1506011835040.66720@mako.ath.cx>,
 David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> 
> On Monday, 01 June 2015 16:21 -0700, 
>  in article <2015060116211142553-xxx@yyyzzz>, 
>  gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> 
> > I have a few hundred bookmarks in a few score categories and managed 
> > to delete a boatload of them.
> 
> You forgot to mention what browser you're using.

Subject: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#76044

On 2015-06-01 23:45:42 +0000, David Ritz said:

> /Users/$USER/Library/Safari/Bookmarks.plist

Cool--thanks!

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#76047

On 2015-06-01, David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> On Monday, 01 June 2015 16:21 -0700, 
>  in article <2015060116211142553-xxx@yyyzzz>, 
>  gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>
>> I have a few hundred bookmarks in a few score categories and managed 
>> to delete a boatload of them.
>
> You forgot to mention what browser you're using.

Yeah, he should have mentioned the browser name in the body; but it was
in the subject, "Safari's Storage of Bookmarks". ; )

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#76048

On 6/1/15 10:39 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-06-01, David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, 01 June 2015 16:21 -0700,
>>   in article <2015060116211142553-xxx@yyyzzz>,
>>   gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a few hundred bookmarks in a few score categories and managed
>>> to delete a boatload of them.
>>
>> You forgot to mention what browser you're using.
>
> Yeah, he should have mentioned the browser name in the body; but it was
> in the subject, "Safari's Storage of Bookmarks". ; )
>

Kinda pointless, really, when it's in the Subject Line, dontcha' think?

If one's attention span doesn't last from there to the text in the body 
of the post, it's probably not to be in a public forum;-)

-- 
When is this relentless grilling of the presumptive Democratic 
Presidential nominee by the mainstream media going to stop? C'mon, give 
her a break!
					- @patsajak

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#76051

In article <mkk8nh$q41$1@news.albasani.net>,
 Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:

> On 6/1/15 10:39 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> > On 2015-06-01, David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Monday, 01 June 2015 16:21 -0700,
> >>   in article <2015060116211142553-xxx@yyyzzz>,
> >>   gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have a few hundred bookmarks in a few score categories and managed
> >>> to delete a boatload of them.
> >>
> >> You forgot to mention what browser you're using.
> >
> > Yeah, he should have mentioned the browser name in the body; but it was
> > in the subject, "Safari's Storage of Bookmarks". ; )
> >
> 
> Kinda pointless, really, when it's in the Subject Line, dontcha' think?
> 
> If one's attention span doesn't last from there to the text in the body 
> of the post, it's probably not to be in a public forum;-)

For some reason, some people apparently have their newsreaders 
configured not to show the subjects by default, they just step through 
the messages sequentially. But surely there's a command to show the 
header when they need to see it, and they'd use that when they run into 
confusing (to them) posts like this.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#76054

On 6/2/15 10:15 AM, Barry Margolin wrote:
> In article <mkk8nh$q41$1@news.albasani.net>,
>   Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
>
>> On 6/1/15 10:39 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2015-06-01, David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, 01 June 2015 16:21 -0700,
>>>>    in article <2015060116211142553-xxx@yyyzzz>,
>>>>    gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a few hundred bookmarks in a few score categories and managed
>>>>> to delete a boatload of them.
>>>>
>>>> You forgot to mention what browser you're using.
>>>
>>> Yeah, he should have mentioned the browser name in the body; but it was
>>> in the subject, "Safari's Storage of Bookmarks". ; )
>>>
>>
>> Kinda pointless, really, when it's in the Subject Line, dontcha' think?
>>
>> If one's attention span doesn't last from there to the text in the body
>> of the post, it's probably not good to be in a public forum;-)
>
> For some reason, some people apparently have their newsreaders
> configured not to show the subjects by default, they just step through
> the messages sequentially. But surely there's a command to show the
> header when they need to see it, and they'd use that when they run into
> confusing (to them) posts like this.
>

Hmmmm, that would explain it-- but I'm thinking that if they do 
something like that, they're probably "low-information" voters as well...

-- 
Mess with me and you mess with the whole trailer park.

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#76055

In article <mkkgg3$ffg$1@news.albasani.net>,
 Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:

> On 6/2/15 10:15 AM, Barry Margolin wrote:
> > In article <mkk8nh$q41$1@news.albasani.net>,
> >   Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 6/1/15 10:39 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> >>> On 2015-06-01, David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Monday, 01 June 2015 16:21 -0700,
> >>>>    in article <2015060116211142553-xxx@yyyzzz>,
> >>>>    gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I have a few hundred bookmarks in a few score categories and managed
> >>>>> to delete a boatload of them.
> >>>>
> >>>> You forgot to mention what browser you're using.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, he should have mentioned the browser name in the body; but it was
> >>> in the subject, "Safari's Storage of Bookmarks". ; )
> >>>
> >>
> >> Kinda pointless, really, when it's in the Subject Line, dontcha' think?
> >>
> >> If one's attention span doesn't last from there to the text in the body
> >> of the post, it's probably not good to be in a public forum;-)
> >
> > For some reason, some people apparently have their newsreaders
> > configured not to show the subjects by default, they just step through
> > the messages sequentially. But surely there's a command to show the
> > header when they need to see it, and they'd use that when they run into
> > confusing (to them) posts like this.
> >
> 
> Hmmmm, that would explain it-- but I'm thinking that if they do 
> something like that, they're probably "low-information" voters as well...

I think they do it just so they have an excuse to make 
passive-aggressive responses, pointing out that the OP committed the 
criminal offense of putting relevant information in the Subject line.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#76056

In article <barmar-F71772.11225802062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
 Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> In article <mkkgg3$ffg$1@news.albasani.net>,
>  Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
> 
> > On 6/2/15 10:15 AM, Barry Margolin wrote:
> > > In article <mkk8nh$q41$1@news.albasani.net>,
> > >   Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 6/1/15 10:39 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> > >>> On 2015-06-01, David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Monday, 01 June 2015 16:21 -0700,
> > >>>>    in article <2015060116211142553-xxx@yyyzzz>,
> > >>>>    gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I have a few hundred bookmarks in a few score categories and managed
> > >>>>> to delete a boatload of them.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You forgot to mention what browser you're using.
> > >>>
> > >>> Yeah, he should have mentioned the browser name in the body; but it was
> > >>> in the subject, "Safari's Storage of Bookmarks". ; )
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Kinda pointless, really, when it's in the Subject Line, dontcha' think?
> > >>
> > >> If one's attention span doesn't last from there to the text in the body
> > >> of the post, it's probably not good to be in a public forum;-)
> > >
> > > For some reason, some people apparently have their newsreaders
> > > configured not to show the subjects by default, they just step through
> > > the messages sequentially. But surely there's a command to show the
> > > header when they need to see it, and they'd use that when they run into
> > > confusing (to them) posts like this.
> > >
> > 
> > Hmmmm, that would explain it-- but I'm thinking that if they do 
> > something like that, they're probably "low-information" voters as well...
> 
> I think they do it just so they have an excuse to make 
> passive-aggressive responses, pointing out that the OP committed the 
> criminal offense of putting relevant information in the Subject line.

DING DING DING DING DING! We have a winner!

Johnny, tell the folks at home what our contestant has just won!

-- 
Security provided by Mssrs Smith and/or Wesson. Brought to you by the letter Q

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#76061

Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> writes:

> In article <barmar-F71772.11225802062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
>  Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> 
> > In article <mkkgg3$ffg$1@news.albasani.net>,
> >  Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > On 6/2/15 10:15 AM, Barry Margolin wrote:
> > > > In article <mkk8nh$q41$1@news.albasani.net>,
> > > >   Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On 6/1/15 10:39 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> > > >>> On 2015-06-01, David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Monday, 01 June 2015 16:21 -0700,
> > > >>>>    in article <2015060116211142553-xxx@yyyzzz>,
> > > >>>>    gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> I have a few hundred bookmarks in a few score categories and managed
> > > >>>>> to delete a boatload of them.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> You forgot to mention what browser you're using.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Yeah, he should have mentioned the browser name in the body; but it was
> > > >>> in the subject, "Safari's Storage of Bookmarks". ; )
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> Kinda pointless, really, when it's in the Subject Line, dontcha' think?
> > > >>
> > > >> If one's attention span doesn't last from there to the text in the body
> > > >> of the post, it's probably not good to be in a public forum;-)
> > > >
> > > > For some reason, some people apparently have their newsreaders
> > > > configured not to show the subjects by default, they just step through
> > > > the messages sequentially. But surely there's a command to show the
> > > > header when they need to see it, and they'd use that when they run into
> > > > confusing (to them) posts like this.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Hmmmm, that would explain it-- but I'm thinking that if they do 
> > > something like that, they're probably "low-information" voters as well...
> > 
> > I think they do it just so they have an excuse to make 
> > passive-aggressive responses, pointing out that the OP committed the 
> > criminal offense of putting relevant information in the Subject line.
> 
> DING DING DING DING DING! We have a winner!
> 
> Johnny, tell the folks at home what our contestant has just won!

BZZZZT.

This would be something like a newspaper having an article that said
something in the headline that it didn't mention in the entire
article.  Certainly not a criminal offense -- just poor writing style, 
which clearly caused real confusion in this case.

The subject in Usenet postings is also not as conspicuous as a
headline in a newpaper because in Usenet it can be surrounded by other
information like the sender, date, newsgroups and organization
(depending on the reader).

Martin

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#76062

On Jun 2, 2015, Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu wrote
(in article<my4mmpg46e.fsf@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU>):

> Don Bruder<dakidd@sonic.net>writes:
> 
> > In article<barmar-F71772.11225802062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
> > Barry Margolin<barmar@alum.mit.edu>wrote:
> > 
> > > In article<mkkgg3$ffg$1@news.albasani.net>,
> > > Aldo Raine<apache@scalpem.net>wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On 6/2/15 10:15 AM, Barry Margolin wrote:
> > > > > In article<mkk8nh$q41$1@news.albasani.net>,
> > > > > Aldo Raine<apache@scalpem.net>wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On 6/1/15 10:39 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> > > > > > > On 2015-06-01, David Ritz<dritz@mindspring.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Monday, 01 June 2015 16:21 -0700,
> > > > > > > > in article<2015060116211142553-xxx@yyyzzz>,
> > > > > > > > gtr<xxx@yyy.zzz>wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I have a few hundred bookmarks in a few score categories and 
managed
> > > > > > > > > to delete a boatload of them.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You forgot to mention what browser you're using.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yeah, he should have mentioned the browser name in the body; but 
it was
> > > > > > > in the subject, "Safari's Storage of Bookmarks". ; )
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Kinda pointless, really, when it's in the Subject Line, dontcha' 
think?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If one's attention span doesn't last from there to the text in the 
body
> > > > > > of the post, it's probably not good to be in a public forum;-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > For some reason, some people apparently have their newsreaders
> > > > > configured not to show the subjects by default, they just step 
through
> > > > > the messages sequentially. But surely there's a command to show the
> > > > > header when they need to see it, and they'd use that when they run 
into
> > > > > confusing (to them) posts like this.
> > > > 
> > > > Hmmmm, that would explain it-- but I'm thinking that if they do
> > > > something like that, they're probably "low-information" voters as 
well...
> > > 
> > > I think they do it just so they have an excuse to make
> > > passive-aggressive responses, pointing out that the OP committed the
> > > criminal offense of putting relevant information in the Subject line.
> > 
> > DING DING DING DING DING! We have a winner!
> > 
> > Johnny, tell the folks at home what our contestant has just won!
> 
> BZZZZT.
> 
> This would be something like a newspaper having an article that said
> something in the headline that it didn't mention in the entire
> article. Certainly not a criminal offense -- just poor writing style,
> which clearly caused real confusion in this case.

Not quite. It is more like a newspaper having an article with no headline at 
all. That leaves the reader wondering what the article might have truly been 
about.

The OP provided a Subject line with appropriate unambiguous information 
regarding the browser concerned. If noted, the follow up questions regarding 
that particular information missing from the narrative would have been 
unnecessary.

…but if the Subject line was missing for those readers, it was no fault of 
the OP.

> The subject in Usenet postings is also not as conspicuous as a
> headline in a newpaper because in Usenet it can be surrounded by other
> information like the sender, date, newsgroups and organization
> (depending on the reader).

The controlling text there is “depending on the reader”.
In every Usenet client I have used there have been separate lines for 
destination news groups, Subject, and sender.
The Subject has always been reasonably conspicuous for me.



--

Regards,
Savageduck

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#76063

In article <my4mmpg46e.fsf@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU>,
 Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu 
 <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote:

> This would be something like a newspaper having an article that said
> something in the headline that it didn't mention in the entire
> article.  Certainly not a criminal offense -- just poor writing style, 
> which clearly caused real confusion in this case.

I like to put my conclusions in footnotes.
-- 
The passive voice should never be used.

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#76097

Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu
<nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote:

> Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> writes:
> 
> > In article <barmar-F71772.11225802062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
> >  Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <mkkgg3$ffg$1@news.albasani.net>,
> > >  Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On 6/2/15 10:15 AM, Barry Margolin wrote:
> > > > > In article <mkk8nh$q41$1@news.albasani.net>,
> > > > >   Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On 6/1/15 10:39 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> > > > >>> On 2015-06-01, David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Monday, 01 June 2015 16:21 -0700,
> > > > >>>>    in article <2015060116211142553-xxx@yyyzzz>,
> > > > >>>>    gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> I have a few hundred bookmarks in a few score categories and
> > > > >>>>> managed to delete a boatload of them.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> You forgot to mention what browser you're using.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Yeah, he should have mentioned the browser name in the body; but
> > > > >>> it was in the subject, "Safari's Storage of Bookmarks". ; )
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Kinda pointless, really, when it's in the Subject Line, dontcha'
> > > > >>think?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If one's attention span doesn't last from there to the text in
> > > > >> the body of the post, it's probably not good to be in a public
> > > > >> forum;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > For some reason, some people apparently have their newsreaders
> > > > > configured not to show the subjects by default, they just step
> > > > > through the messages sequentially. But surely there's a command to
> > > > > show the header when they need to see it, and they'd use that when
> > > > > they run into confusing (to them) posts like this.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Hmmmm, that would explain it-- but I'm thinking that if they do
> > > > something like that, they're probably "low-information" voters as
> > > > well...
> > > 
> > > I think they do it just so they have an excuse to make
> > > passive-aggressive responses, pointing out that the OP committed the
> > > criminal offense of putting relevant information in the Subject line.
> > 
> > DING DING DING DING DING! We have a winner!
> > 
> > Johnny, tell the folks at home what our contestant has just won!
> 
> BZZZZT.
> 
> This would be something like a newspaper having an article that said
> something in the headline that it didn't mention in the entire
> article.  Certainly not a criminal offense -- just poor writing style,
> which clearly caused real confusion in this case.
> 
> The subject in Usenet postings is also not as conspicuous as a
> headline in a newpaper because in Usenet it can be surrounded by other
> information like the sender, date, newsgroups and organization
> (depending on the reader).
> 
> Martin

Well, I know I sometimes write posts and emails starting in the subject
and continuing in the body, or with the subject alone responsible for
informing readers as to the topic at hand.

Sometimes I also duplicate the subject's information in the body. But I
generally expect - and I did not think this was an unreasonable
expectation - people to read the subject, else why did they start
reading the thread in the first place? And if they are confused as to
the topic, wouldn't the subject be the first place to look? :-)

-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#76096

Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> In article <mkkgg3$ffg$1@news.albasani.net>,
>  Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
> 
> > On 6/2/15 10:15 AM, Barry Margolin wrote:
> > > In article <mkk8nh$q41$1@news.albasani.net>,
> > >   Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 6/1/15 10:39 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> > >>> On 2015-06-01, David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Monday, 01 June 2015 16:21 -0700,
> > >>>>    in article <2015060116211142553-xxx@yyyzzz>,
> > >>>>    gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I have a few hundred bookmarks in a few score categories and managed
> > >>>>> to delete a boatload of them.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You forgot to mention what browser you're using.
> > >>>
> > >>> Yeah, he should have mentioned the browser name in the body; but it was
> > >>> in the subject, "Safari's Storage of Bookmarks". ; )
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Kinda pointless, really, when it's in the Subject Line, dontcha' think?
> > >>
> > >> If one's attention span doesn't last from there to the text in the body
> > >> of the post, it's probably not good to be in a public forum;-)
> > >
> > > For some reason, some people apparently have their newsreaders
> > > configured not to show the subjects by default, they just step through
> > > the messages sequentially. But surely there's a command to show the
> > > header when they need to see it, and they'd use that when they run into
> > > confusing (to them) posts like this.
> > >
> > 
> > Hmmmm, that would explain it-- but I'm thinking that if they do 
> > something like that, they're probably "low-information" voters as well...
> 
> I think they do it just so they have an excuse to make 
> passive-aggressive responses, pointing out that the OP committed the 
> criminal offense of putting relevant information in the Subject line.

Sounds about right to me. Some people look for any excuse they can to...
what? Feel superior? Ironically it only ever serves to underline their
insecurity.

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#76347

On 6/2/15 10:22 AM, in article
barmar-F71772.11225802062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu, "Barry Margolin"
<barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> In article <mkkgg3$ffg$1@news.albasani.net>,
>  Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/2/15 10:15 AM, Barry Margolin wrote:
>>> In article <mkk8nh$q41$1@news.albasani.net>,
>>>   Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 6/1/15 10:39 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-06-01, David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Monday, 01 June 2015 16:21 -0700,
>>>>>>    in article <2015060116211142553-xxx@yyyzzz>,
>>>>>>    gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have a few hundred bookmarks in a few score categories and managed
>>>>>>> to delete a boatload of them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You forgot to mention what browser you're using.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah, he should have mentioned the browser name in the body; but it was
>>>>> in the subject, "Safari's Storage of Bookmarks". ; )
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Kinda pointless, really, when it's in the Subject Line, dontcha' think?
>>>> 
>>>> If one's attention span doesn't last from there to the text in the body
>>>> of the post, it's probably not good to be in a public forum;-)
>>> 
>>> For some reason, some people apparently have their newsreaders
>>> configured not to show the subjects by default, they just step through
>>> the messages sequentially. But surely there's a command to show the
>>> header when they need to see it, and they'd use that when they run into
>>> confusing (to them) posts like this.
>>> 
>> 
>> Hmmmm, that would explain it-- but I'm thinking that if they do
>> something like that, they're probably "low-information" voters as well...
> 
> I think they do it just so they have an excuse to make
> passive-aggressive responses, pointing out that the OP committed the
> criminal offense of putting relevant information in the Subject line.

Much like Low Information Voters. You ever look at the weekend crime reports
from Chicago?

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#76058 — Newsreader settings (was Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks)

In article <barmar-D784ED.10155002062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
Barry Margolin  <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

[snip]

>For some reason, some people apparently have their newsreaders 
>configured not to show the subjects by default, they just step through 
>the messages sequentially. But surely there's a command to show the 
>header when they need to see it, and they'd use that when they run into 
>confusing (to them) posts like this.

Why would anyone want to have to click through every posting instead
of selecting just those topics that interest them?


Patty

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#76059 — Re: Newsreader settings (was Re: Safari's Storage of Bookmarks)

In article <556df1e3$0$36543$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
 Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:

> In article <barmar-D784ED.10155002062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
> Barry Margolin  <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >For some reason, some people apparently have their newsreaders 
> >configured not to show the subjects by default, they just step through 
> >the messages sequentially. But surely there's a command to show the 
> >header when they need to see it, and they'd use that when they run into 
> >confusing (to them) posts like this.
> 
> Why would anyone want to have to click through every posting instead
> of selecting just those topics that interest them?

I wonder that as well, but to each his own.

It probably works well enough for them in low-volume newsgroups. I guess 
they kill-file anything that doesn't interest them, so they don't have 
to click through them again in the future.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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