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  Apple increases its navigation nous Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-17 18:24 -0400
    Re: Apple increases its navigation nous me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-05-18 20:46 +0000
      Re: Apple increases its navigation nous BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-05-18 16:02 -0500
        Re: Apple increases its navigation nous gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-05-18 14:40 -0700
          Re: Apple increases its navigation nous Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-05-19 00:14 +0000
      Re: Apple increases its navigation nous Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-18 19:28 -0400
        Re: Apple increases its navigation nous Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-18 20:00 -0400
        Re: Apple increases its navigation nous me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-05-19 06:16 +0000
          Re: Apple increases its navigation nous George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-19 10:47 -0500
          Re: Apple increases its navigation nous JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-05-19 13:35 -0400
          Re: Apple increases its navigation nous JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-05-19 13:38 -0400
          Re: Apple increases its navigation nous Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-19 19:01 -0400
            Re: Apple increases its navigation nous JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-05-20 02:36 -0400
              Re: Apple increases its navigation nous "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-05-20 17:19 +1000
      Re: Apple increases its navigation nous Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-05-19 13:43 +0000
    Re: Apple increases its navigation nous David Moorman <email@domain.com> - 2015-05-18 22:17 -0500
      Re: Apple increases its navigation nous Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-05-19 11:11 -0400
        Re: Apple increases its navigation nous Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-19 23:01 +0000
          Re: Apple increases its navigation nous me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-05-22 13:56 +0000
            Re: Apple increases its navigation nous John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-05-22 16:20 -0700
              Re: Apple increases its navigation nous me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-05-23 06:23 +0000
                Re: Apple increases its navigation nous John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-05-23 12:56 -0700
                  Re: Apple increases its navigation nous Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-23 17:58 -0400
                  Re: Apple increases its navigation nous me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-05-24 00:31 +0000
                    Re: Apple increases its navigation nous JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-05-23 21:36 -0400
                    Re: Apple increases its navigation nous John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-05-23 19:00 -0700
                      Re: Apple increases its navigation nous Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-24 10:57 -0400
                        Re: Apple increases its navigation nous John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-05-25 15:34 -0700
                          Re: Apple increases its navigation nous Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-25 19:17 -0400
                      Re: Apple increases its navigation nous me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-05-26 06:05 +0000
                        Re: Apple increases its navigation nous Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-26 09:49 -0400
              Re: Apple increases its navigation nous Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-23 08:03 -0400

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#75850 — Apple increases its navigation nous

Coherent Navigation was acquired by Apple.

Specialize in high end GPS apps (higher accuracy by various means) 
including defence, autonomous navigation and robotics.

No mention of what Apple will be doing with C.N., but with increased 
emphasis on mobility, automobile integration as well as various rumours 
around a possible foray into making automobiles (if directly or by 
acquisition) it's not surprising that they're beefing up.

NYT: http://nyti.ms/1B62SLW

(In other news they've settled an employee poaching suit brought by A123 
- a battery maker that specializes in automotive and industrial batteries).

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#75876

In comp.sys.mac.system Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> Coherent Navigation was acquired [...]
> (In other news they've settled an employee poaching suit [...]

Do you have anything on-topic to post?

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#75877

On Mon, 18 May 2015 20:46:20 +0000 (UTC), me@home.spamsucks.ca
(Király) wrote:

>In comp.sys.mac.system Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> Coherent Navigation was acquired [...]
>> (In other news they've settled an employee poaching suit [...]
>
>Do you have anything on-topic to post?

Do you?

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#75880

On 2015-05-18 21:02:33 +0000, BobbyK said:

> On Mon, 18 May 2015 20:46:20 +0000 (UTC), me@home.spamsucks.ca
> (Király) wrote:
> 
>> In comp.sys.mac.system Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> Coherent Navigation was acquired [...]
>>> (In other news they've settled an employee poaching suit [...]
>> 
>> Do you have anything on-topic to post?
> 
> Do you?

I don't.

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#75884

On 2015-05-18, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2015-05-18 21:02:33 +0000, BobbyK said:
>
>> On Mon, 18 May 2015 20:46:20 +0000 (UTC), me@home.spamsucks.ca
>> (Király) wrote:
>> 
>>> In comp.sys.mac.system Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>> Coherent Navigation was acquired [...]
>>>> (In other news they've settled an employee poaching suit [...]
>>> 
>>> Do you have anything on-topic to post?
>> 
>> Do you?
>
> I don't.

Yeah, me neither.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#75881

On 2015-05-18 16:46, Király wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.system Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> Coherent Navigation was acquired [...]
>> (In other news they've settled an employee poaching suit [...]
>
> Do you have anything on-topic to post?

QUOTE

Top 5 Washington state localities that sound like somebody vomiting:

5. Hoquiam
4. Yakima
3. Puyallup
2. Walla Walla
1. Wenatchee

-- K.

Lang may your lum reek.

UNQUOTE.

So not only are you preaching from the whorehouse, you don't even have a 
newsreader that inserts sigs properly.

On that note, you're too late for netcop school graduation.  Try again 
in 2016.

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#75882

In article <A_2dnXxYjaoo6MfInZ2dnUU7-X2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2015-05-18 16:46, Király wrote:
> > In comp.sys.mac.system Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> 
> > wrote:
> >> Coherent Navigation was acquired [...]
> >> (In other news they've settled an employee poaching suit [...]
> >
> > Do you have anything on-topic to post?
> 
> QUOTE
> 
> Top 5 Washington state localities that sound like somebody vomiting:
> 
> 5. Hoquiam
> 4. Yakima
> 3. Puyallup
> 2. Walla Walla
> 1. Wenatchee
> 
> -- K.
> 
> Lang may your lum reek.
> 
> UNQUOTE.
> 
> So not only are you preaching from the whorehouse, you don't even have a 
> newsreader that inserts sigs properly.
> 
> On that note, you're too late for netcop school graduation.  Try again 
> in 2016.

Who was the writer who had a character name "Yakima Shorty?" All I find 
on Goodgdell is a bake-shop there. I'm thinking Dashiell Hammett.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#75889

In comp.sys.mac.system Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> QUOTE
> 
> Top 5 Washington state localities that sound like somebody vomiting:

Apparently you don't understand the difference between posting in a 
thread that has wandered off-topic, and deliberately *starting* one.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#75893

On 5/19/15 1:16 AM, in article mjekfe$ot2$1@dont-email.me, "Király"
<me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote:

> In comp.sys.mac.system Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> QUOTE
>> 
>> Top 5 Washington state localities that sound like somebody vomiting:
> 
> Apparently you don't understand the difference between posting in a
> thread that has wandered off-topic, and deliberately *starting* one.

Someone piss in your Cheerios?!?

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#75894

On 15-05-19 02:16, Király wrote:

> Apparently you don't understand the difference between posting in a 
> thread that has wandered off-topic, and deliberately *starting* one.

Thread started on topic. Someone complained it wasn't. I figured it was
a joke since none of the other current threads are on topic so for the
one thread that was on topic a guy complained.

Tempest in a tea cup.

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#75895

Apple has probably found it more efficient to buy companies instead of
poaching employees from them and then have the resulting legal, problems.

Hiring employees from a company that does X does not mean that Apple
intends to do X. They have GIS expertise and apple needs GIS expertise.

It could also have been simply to prevent some other mapping outfit from
getting their hands on that company and its employees.

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#75898

On 2015-05-19 02:16, Király wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.system Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> QUOTE
>>
>> Top 5 Washington state localities that sound like somebody vomiting:
>
> Apparently you don't understand the difference between posting in a
> thread that has wandered off-topic, and deliberately *starting* one.

Apparently you don't understand the purpose of thread killing or 
resisting the urge to netcop.

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#75903

Additional tidbit:

Nokia is merging with Alcatel. And it has apparently put its "Here" maps
unit up for sale (Uber taxi is apparently interested, but also some
german car manufacturers).

Nokia's map system is apparently second after Google.

So Apple may have to ramp up its map product.

This is especially true if rumour of the iCar are true and any self
driving iCar will need to have reliable precise mapping tech which
Apple's nascent mapping product is far from having.

I don't think Apple will want to restrict sales of its iCar to only
areas where its map product is accurate.


Note that Google Street Vew data is used for self driving cars as that
product also scans for road signs (although often blurred in the
consumer product, not for the software that builds the true mapping used
by the Google car.

Without street view, I am not sure Apple can get self driving cars
working reliably.

So we'll see what else Apple does to improve its mapping. Google is
years ahead of Apple (sinply because they started years before), so it
is a challenge for Apple to catch up.

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#75904

JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote

> Additional tidbit:

> Nokia is merging with Alcatel.

No, Nokia bought Alcatel-Lucent

> And it has apparently put its "Here" maps unit up for sale

Yes.

> (Uber taxi is apparently interested, but
> also some german car manufacturers).

> Nokia's map system is apparently second after Google.

Second in what sense ?

> So Apple may have to ramp up its map product.

Nope, Here is irrelevant to Apple.

> This is especially true if rumour of the iCar are true and any self
> driving iCar will need to have reliable precise mapping tech

Or just use one of the available ones.

> which Apple's nascent mapping product is far from having.

Bullshit.

> I don't think Apple will want to restrict sales of its
> iCar to only areas where its map product is accurate.

You don’t know that there will ever be any iCar.

> Note that Google Street Vew data is used for self
> driving cars as that product also scans for road signs
> (although often blurred in the consumer product,

No they are not.

> not for the software that builds the
> true mapping used by the Google car.

You don’t know that either.

> Without street view, I am not sure Apple
> can get self driving cars working reliably.

More fool you. The system can obviously read the signs itself.

Number plate recognition has been around and very reliable
for a long time now. Road signs are much easier to do.

> So we'll see what else Apple does to improve its mapping.

You don’t know that it is doing anything yet.

> Google is years ahead of Apple

Yes. In spades with using amendments people provide.

> (sinply because they started years before),

No, because they are much better at it.

> so it is a challenge for Apple to catch up.

You don’t know that Apple needs to do that. 

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#75890

On 2015-05-18, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.system Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> Coherent Navigation was acquired [...]
>> (In other news they've settled an employee poaching suit [...]
>
> Do you have anything on-topic to post?

I'm not sure I understand how you think GPS navigation technology
(mapping) is somehow off topic for iPhones and Macs. At the very least
it's somewhat on topic, and at most very relevant to both platforms in
different ways. Same goes for the A123 poaching suit news, which relates
to Apple's battery technologies. Personally, I don't mind seeing blips
of such news items here in these groups (minus silly speculations of
doom and gloom from resident Apple haters).

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#75887

On 2015-05-17 22:24:53 +0000, Alan Browne said:

> Coherent Navigation was acquired by Apple.
> 
> Specialize in high end GPS apps (higher accuracy by various means) 
> including defence, autonomous navigation and robotics.
> 
> No mention of what Apple will be doing with C.N., but with increased 
> emphasis on mobility, automobile integration as well as various rumours 
> around a possible foray into making automobiles (if directly or by 
> acquisition) it's not surprising that they're beefing up.
> 
> NYT: http://nyti.ms/1B62SLW
> 
> (In other news they've settled an employee poaching suit brought by 
> A123 - a battery maker that specializes in automotive and industrial 
> batteries).

The Apple map app could use a boost.  

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#75891

David Moorman:
> The Apple map app could use a boost.

One doesn't often see restrained and intentional understatement here.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#75899

In message <190520151111125569%star@sky.net> 
  Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
> David Moorman:
>> The Apple map app could use a boost.

> One doesn't often see restrained and intentional understatement here.

 Apple Maps is just as good (or not good) for routing as Google Maps and
 has been for a long time.


-- 
I take my advice from the advertising world, "Treat me nice," says the
party girl. Coke adds life where there isn't any

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#75913

Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>  Apple Maps is just as good (or not good) for routing as Google Maps and
>  has been for a long time.

Not really. Just try to get it to plot directions between two locations 
you select on the map, neither of which are your current location. 
Google Maps can do that easily.

It astounds me that such a basic functionality of a mapping software 
could be missing.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#75920

On 5/22/15   PDT 6:56 AM, Király wrote:
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>   Apple Maps is just as good (or not good) for routing as Google Maps and
>>   has been for a long time.
>
> Not really. Just try to get it to plot directions between two locations
> you select on the map, neither of which are your current location.
> Google Maps can do that easily.
>
> It astounds me that such a basic functionality of a mapping software
> could be missing.

It astounds me that anyone would have a problem with that. I was doing 
it this morning for an upcoming trip.

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