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  Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-20 11:53 -0800
    Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-20 22:37 +0000
      Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-21 09:41 -0800
        Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-21 23:18 +0000
          Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-02-22 09:23 +0000
            Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2015-02-22 11:23 +0100
            Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-22 16:34 +0000
    Re: Linus rant on HFS+ android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-22 05:39 +0100
      Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-22 10:05 +0000
        Re: Linus rant on HFS+ android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-22 15:05 +0100
          Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-22 18:38 +0000
        Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-02-22 11:11 -0500
          Re: Linus rant on HFS+ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-22 13:30 -0500
            Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-02-22 13:32 -0500
              Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-25 19:01 -0500
            Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-22 18:40 +0000
            Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-22 20:55 +0000
            Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Matt Simpson <usenet@news.jmatt.net> - 2015-02-25 14:59 +0000
              Re: Linus rant on HFS+ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-25 12:33 -0500
          Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-03-25 08:01 -0400
            Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 14:11 -0700
              Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-25 17:16 -0400
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Wilbur Eleven <wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> - 2015-03-25 17:31 -0400
                  Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-25 17:40 -0400
                    Re: Linus rant on HFS+ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-25 18:31 -0400
                      Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-25 22:39 +0000
                        Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-25 19:23 -0400
                          Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-26 04:00 +0000
                            Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 22:37 -0700
                              Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-26 19:53 +1200
                                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2015-03-26 09:37 +0100
                                  Re: Linus rant on HFS+ dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-26 23:07 +1300
                                  Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-27 20:39 -0700
                                    Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-27 23:42 -0400
                                      Re: Linus rant on HFS+ befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2015-03-30 10:10 +0200
                                        Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 09:27 -0400
                              Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 03:08 -0400
                              Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-27 00:14 +0000
                                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-27 20:29 -0700
                                  Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 06:18 +0000
                                  Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 21:05 +0000
                      Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-25 18:41 -0400
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 14:32 -0700
                  Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-25 17:40 -0400
                    Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 14:45 -0700
              Re: Linus rant on HFS+ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-25 17:34 -0400
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 14:41 -0700
                  Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-25 21:56 +0000
                  Re: Linus rant on HFS+ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-25 18:33 -0400
                    Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 19:44 -0700
        Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-22 16:22 +0000
        Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-25 18:54 -0500
          Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-26 07:56 +0000
            Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 07:57 -0500
            Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-26 07:58 -0500
              Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-26 17:24 +0000
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 13:25 -0500
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-02 10:07 -0500
          Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-26 07:28 -0800
            Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-02 10:08 -0500

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#72255

On 2015-03-28, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 00:14:22 +0000 (UTC)
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
>> [Still unable to post properly, I see. What a dipshit]
>
> you deteriorate so quickly into personal attacks and foul
> language like many others here

When someone does something that is considered rude, over and over
again, despite multiple people asking them to stop, you should expect
people to be upset. If you dislike it, change your bad behavior. Every
single post you make has tons of empty lines that people must actively
trim whenever they reply to you. It's rude. It's stupid. If you dislike
the reactions you are getting, make a change.

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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

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#72078

In article <55133741$0$44744$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> > the batteries are rated to last 5 years with 80% capacity. most people
> > replace their computer every 3-4 years. 
> 
> That is rather optimistic. lithium ion battery chemistry degrades over
> time.  Apple still has to live within the rules of physics and chemistry.

it's what apple states the user can expect and real world experience
matches it.

> My MacBookPro had severely degraded after 4 years. Not even close to
> having kept 80% over 5 years.

it's an average. just because *your* battery didn't doesn't mean they
all will. some batteries might not last as long while others will last
longer than expected. *most* people will have 5 year lifetime.

> > plus, it's not just apple with internal batteries either. 
> > it's a complete non-issue.
>
> Which is why there is no point in making unreal claims about Apple's
> batteries lasting longer than lithium ion batteries. Everyone on same
> footing here.

apple's batteries *are* lithium ion batteries or lithium polymer.

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#72061

On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 17:16:00 -0400
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> the batteries will outlast the laptop so it makes no difference.

see the other thread about batt. replacement
seems to contradict you


















 

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#72064

In article <mev9h4$jo2$5@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet
<electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:

> > the batteries will outlast the laptop so it makes no difference.
> 
> see the other thread about batt. replacement
> seems to contradict you

what other thread?

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#72067

On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 17:40:37 -0400
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> what other thread?

not this one and not one that doesn't mention batt. replacemebt















 

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#72062

On 15-03-25 17:11, Electric Comet wrote:

> my big worry with these new laptops is changing out batteries, etc.
> does it require special tools or can I DIY

www.ifixit.com provides you with a source for parts AND detailed
instructions for what you need to do to replace parts, and what tools
you need.

Newer macs may have fewer parts that user can replace.  For my
MacBookPro, I have replaced memory, battery and disk drive without any
problem.

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#72066

On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 17:34:42 -0400
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> www.ifixit.com provides you with a source for parts AND detailed
> instructions for what you need to do to replace parts, and what tools
> you need.


anything get done that can't be undone
or in other words does it entail any permanent alterations


> Newer macs may have fewer parts that user can replace.  For my

a trend I don't like and not just with macs













 

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#72069

On 2015-03-25, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 17:34:42 -0400
> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>> www.ifixit.com provides you with a source for parts AND detailed
>> instructions for what you need to do to replace parts, and what tools
>> you need.
>
> anything get done that can't be undone
> or in other words does it entail any permanent alterations

The web is your friend. Look for yourself on iFixit.

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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#72074

On 15-03-25 17:41, Electric Comet wrote:

> anything get done that can't be undone
> or in other words does it entail any permanent alterations

Not sure about newer MacBooks, but for my Pro, just some tiny phillips
screws, and one strange screw for the battery (used stright edge
screwdriver to get ot out, but I suspect ifixit probably sells that
screwdriver too).

No permanent damage. The unit is all done with screws, not glew, so
nicely maintanable.

Newer units, being more compact, may be less maintainable, but you
should see in iFixit when they do the teardown.

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#72086

On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 18:33:50 -0400
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> No permanent damage. The unit is all done with screws, not glew, so
> nicely maintanable.

good to know
when I look at an air I really wonder how they come apart
haven't had to chance to look hard just of quick look at the store


> Newer units, being more compact, may be less maintainable, but you
> should see in iFixit when they do the teardown.

i will check that site










 

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#70101

On 2015-02-22, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2015-02-22, android <here@there.was> wrote:
>> In article <mc83jk$orj$1@dont-email.me>,
>>  Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29 Jan 2015 10:47:36 GMT
>>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Sufficiently so that I bought one. Although I am hovering on the
>>> > threshold between between keeping it on MacOS for the automatic
>>> > updates & having someone else do the support and ditching MacOS for
>>> > Linux because I prefer it.
>>> 
>>> Are there firmware updates you would miss going to linux?
>>> Why not run macos in a vm
>>> 
>> You get a Mac because you can install software on it that's not 
>> available for Linux... 
>
> Actually, I got an Air because I needed a laptop and I loved the hardware.
> The O/S is OK, I guess, but only because there's an 'almost-Unix' hiding
> underneath.

No, Mac OS X is Unix. Period. You have a lot to learn.

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#70218

On 2015.02.22 05:05 , Huge wrote:
> On 2015-02-22, android <here@there.was> wrote:
>> In article <mc83jk$orj$1@dont-email.me>,
>>   Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29 Jan 2015 10:47:36 GMT
>>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sufficiently so that I bought one. Although I am hovering on the
>>>> threshold between between keeping it on MacOS for the automatic
>>>> updates & having someone else do the support and ditching MacOS for
>>>> Linux because I prefer it.
>>>
>>> Are there firmware updates you would miss going to linux?
>>> Why not run macos in a vm
>>>
>> You get a Mac because you can install software on it that's not
>> available for Linux...
>
> Actually, I got an Air because I needed a laptop and I loved the hardware.
> The O/S is OK, I guess, but only because there's an 'almost-Unix' hiding
> underneath.  If it wasn't for that, it would have had Linux on it like a shot.

It's Unix.  Period.  And has been so-certified since 10.5 or thereabouts 
when on intel based Macs.

http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/certificates/1201p.pdf

-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
                                   Benjamin Franklin

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#70234

On 2015-02-25, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2015.02.22 05:05 , Huge wrote:
>> On 2015-02-22, android <here@there.was> wrote:
>>> In article <mc83jk$orj$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>   Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29 Jan 2015 10:47:36 GMT
>>>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sufficiently so that I bought one. Although I am hovering on the
>>>>> threshold between between keeping it on MacOS for the automatic
>>>>> updates & having someone else do the support and ditching MacOS for
>>>>> Linux because I prefer it.
>>>>
>>>> Are there firmware updates you would miss going to linux?
>>>> Why not run macos in a vm
>>>>
>>> You get a Mac because you can install software on it that's not
>>> available for Linux...
>>
>> Actually, I got an Air because I needed a laptop and I loved the hardware.
>> The O/S is OK, I guess, but only because there's an 'almost-Unix' hiding
>> underneath.  If it wasn't for that, it would have had Linux on it like a shot.
>
> It's Unix.

Believe what you like, I don't give a shit.




-- 
Today is Boomtime, the 57th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem.  If you have a problem with my attitude,
                    that's your problem.

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#70235

In article <cl81tqF8f2aU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:

> On 2015-02-25, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> > On 2015.02.22 05:05 , Huge wrote:
> >> On 2015-02-22, android <here@there.was> wrote:
> >>> In article <mc83jk$orj$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>   Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 29 Jan 2015 10:47:36 GMT
> >>>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Sufficiently so that I bought one. Although I am hovering on the
> >>>>> threshold between between keeping it on MacOS for the automatic
> >>>>> updates & having someone else do the support and ditching MacOS for
> >>>>> Linux because I prefer it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Are there firmware updates you would miss going to linux?
> >>>> Why not run macos in a vm
> >>>>
> >>> You get a Mac because you can install software on it that's not
> >>> available for Linux...
> >>
> >> Actually, I got an Air because I needed a laptop and I loved the hardware.
> >> The O/S is OK, I guess, but only because there's an 'almost-Unix' hiding
> >> underneath.  If it wasn't for that, it would have had Linux on it like a 
> >> shot.
> >
> > It's Unix.
> 
> Believe what you like, I don't give a shit.

It's not about belief, sunshine.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#70236

On 2015.02.26 02:56 , Huge wrote:
> On 2015-02-25, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

>>> Actually, I got an Air because I needed a laptop and I loved the hardware.
>>> The O/S is OK, I guess, but only because there's an 'almost-Unix' hiding
>>> underneath.  If it wasn't for that, it would have had Linux on it like a shot.
>>
>> It's Unix.
>
> Believe what you like, I don't give a shit.

Fact - not belief.

And of course you give a shit, otherwise you would have replaced the 
"loved" hardware with Linux.  You know, the one that can't get Unix 
certification because the Bazaar does not lend itself to such.

-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
                                   Benjamin Franklin

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#70254

On 2015-02-26, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2015.02.26 02:56 , Huge wrote:
>> On 2015-02-25, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>>> Actually, I got an Air because I needed a laptop and I loved the hardware.
>>>> The O/S is OK, I guess, but only because there's an 'almost-Unix' hiding
>>>> underneath.  If it wasn't for that, it would have had Linux on it like a shot.
>>>
>>> It's Unix.
>>
>> Believe what you like, I don't give a shit.
>
> Fact - not belief.
>
> And of course you give a shit,

Don't tell me what I think.

*plonk*


-- 
Today is Boomtime, the 57th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem.  If you have a problem with my attitude,
                    that's your problem.

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#70260

In article <cl9364Fhk0bU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:

> On 2015-02-26, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> > On 2015.02.26 02:56 , Huge wrote:
> >> On 2015-02-25, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >
> >>>> Actually, I got an Air because I needed a laptop and I loved the 
> >>>> hardware.
> >>>> The O/S is OK, I guess, but only because there's an 'almost-Unix' hiding
> >>>> underneath.  If it wasn't for that, it would have had Linux on it like a 
> >>>> shot.
> >>>
> >>> It's Unix.
> >>
> >> Believe what you like, I don't give a shit.
> >
> > Fact - not belief.
> >
> > And of course you give a shit,
> 
> Don't tell me what I think.
> 
> *plonk*

Oh no Mr. Bill.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#70365

On 2015.02.26 12:24 , Huge wrote:
> On 2015-02-26, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2015.02.26 02:56 , Huge wrote:
>>> On 2015-02-25, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Actually, I got an Air because I needed a laptop and I loved the hardware.
>>>>> The O/S is OK, I guess, but only because there's an 'almost-Unix' hiding
>>>>> underneath.  If it wasn't for that, it would have had Linux on it like a shot.
>>>>
>>>> It's Unix.
>>>
>>> Believe what you like, I don't give a shit.
>>
>> Fact - not belief.
>>
>> And of course you give a shit,
>
> Don't tell me what I think.
>
> *plonk*

You forgot your ball.


-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
                                   Benjamin Franklin

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#70250

On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:54:33 -0500
Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> It's Unix.  Period.  And has been so-certified since 10.5 or
> thereabouts when on intel based Macs.

Certified is a good word

is the opengroup a committee

I know let's create a group and certify ourselves

like the academy awards! create an award plus ceremony and then
hand out awards to ourselves


but if it makes you feel good then









 

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#70366

On 2015.02.26 10:28 , Electric Comet wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:54:33 -0500
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> It's Unix.  Period.  And has been so-certified since 10.5 or
>> thereabouts when on intel based Macs.
>
> Certified is a good word
>
> is the opengroup a committee
>
> I know let's create a group and certify ourselves
>
> like the academy awards! create an award plus ceremony and then
> hand out awards to ourselves
>
>
> but if it makes you feel good then

You've said some silly and useless things before so it's no surprise 
you're topping yourself.


-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
                                   Benjamin Franklin

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