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  My Browser, Video Formats gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-03-16 11:30 -0700
    Re: My Browser, Video Formats Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 19:27 +0000
      Re: My Browser, Video Formats gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-03-16 19:37 -0700
        Re: My Browser, Video Formats Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 03:02 +0000
        Re: My Browser, Video Formats JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-17 00:14 -0400
        Re: My Browser, Video Formats tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-19 02:50 +0000
          Re: My Browser, Video Formats gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-03-18 21:05 -0700
            Re: My Browser, Video Formats Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-19 13:24 +0000
              Re: My Browser, Video Formats gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-03-19 09:01 -0700
                Re: My Browser, Video Formats tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-20 01:00 +0000
      Re: My Browser, Video Formats gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-03-17 16:24 -0700
        Re: My Browser, Video Formats David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-03-17 18:58 -0500
          Re: My Browser, Video Formats gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-03-17 18:14 -0700
        Re: My Browser, Video Formats Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-18 00:29 +0000
          Re: My Browser, Video Formats gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-03-17 18:15 -0700
    Re: My Browser, Video Formats gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-03-17 18:15 -0700

#71299 — My Browser, Video Formats

OS 10.10.2
Safari 8.0.3

About 80% of the time I go to YouTube I get a dark display (within the 
YouTube's frame) with the following message.

	Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available.
	Click here to visit our frequently aksed questions about HTML5 video.

No, play, mute or other tools.

If I click somewhere in the frame in usually goes away and I continue 
as always.  If I trigger a page refresh it gives me the correct display 
maybe half the time.  Sometimes I have to do it a few times.  It's a 
pain.

Others getting this?  Can anything be done other than changing to 
another browser?

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#71305

On 2015-03-16, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> OS 10.10.2
> Safari 8.0.3
>
> About 80% of the time I go to YouTube I get a dark display (within the 
> YouTube's frame) with the following message.
>
> 	Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available.
> 	Click here to visit our frequently aksed questions about HTML5 video.
>
> No, play, mute or other tools.
>
> If I click somewhere in the frame in usually goes away and I continue 
> as always.  If I trigger a page refresh it gives me the correct display 
> maybe half the time.  Sometimes I have to do it a few times.  It's a 
> pain.
>
> Others getting this?  Can anything be done other than changing to 
> another browser?

Give us a couple example URLs and we'll see.

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#71335

On 2015-03-16 19:27:10 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2015-03-16, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> OS 10.10.2
>> Safari 8.0.3
>> 
>> About 80% of the time I go to YouTube I get a dark display (within the
>> YouTube's frame) with the following message.
>> 
>> 	Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available.
>> 	Click here to visit our frequently aksed questions about HTML5 video.
>> 
>> No, play, mute or other tools.
>> 
>> If I click somewhere in the frame in usually goes away and I continue
>> as always.  If I trigger a page refresh it gives me the correct display
>> maybe half the time.  Sometimes I have to do it a few times.  It's a
>> pain.
>> 
>> Others getting this?  Can anything be done other than changing to
>> another browser?
> 
> Give us a couple example URLs and we'll see.

Type any text string into google preceded by "youtube", click any 
result.  I just went to find an "example" and *everything* comes up 
flashing that message (above), but then quickly reverts to displaying 
the HTML5 icon.  My issue is that sometimes it just sits on that page.

I'll wait till one hangs to provide here, but as I say above, with a 
refresh it usually goes away.

In sum, this is apparently happening to no one else?

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#71336

On 2015-03-17, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2015-03-16 19:27:10 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>> Give us a couple example URLs and we'll see.
>
> Type any text string into google preceded by "youtube", click any 
> result.  I just went to find an "example" and *everything* comes up 
> flashing that message (above), but then quickly reverts to displaying 
> the HTML5 icon.

That's normal behavior for me.

> My issue is that sometimes it just sits on that page.

That's not normal for me.

> I'll wait till one hangs to provide here, but as I say above, with a 
> refresh it usually goes away.
>
> In sum, this is apparently happening to no one else?

Not yet...

You might try methodically disabling Safari extensions to see if one of
them is in play.

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#71337

On 15-03-16 22:37, gtr wrote:

>>> 	Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available.
>>> 	Click here to visit our frequently aksed questions about HTML5 video.

Youtube really tries flash first.  It is possible that you have flash
installed but disabled and that your browser's javascript tells youtube
you have flash, so youtube gives you html that tries to load flash
content which then fails.

Once, I tried to force html5 and it took serious efforts to get the
browser to report I didn't have flash installed so youtube would revert
to html5.

There may be some profile ways when you login to tell youtube to use
html5 by default for your username. Not sure.

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#71547

On 2015-03-17, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> 
>> Give us a couple example URLs and we'll see.
>
> Type any text string into google preceded by "youtube", click any 
> result.  I just went to find an "example" and *everything* comes up 
> flashing that message (above), but then quickly reverts to displaying 
> the HTML5 icon.  My issue is that sometimes it just sits on that page.
>
> I'll wait till one hangs to provide here, but as I say above, with a 
> refresh it usually goes away.
>
> In sum, this is apparently happening to no one else?
>

Yep.. just saw the same behavior.. as soon as I disabled "ClickToFlash" the
problem went away.


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is that it can always be sacrificed to expediency.
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#71552

On 2015-03-19 02:50:37 +0000, tmo1138 said:

> On 2015-03-17, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> 
>>> Give us a couple example URLs and we'll see.
>> 
>> Type any text string into google preceded by "youtube", click any
>> result.  I just went to find an "example" and *everything* comes up
>> flashing that message (above), but then quickly reverts to displaying
>> the HTML5 icon.  My issue is that sometimes it just sits on that page.
>> 
>> I'll wait till one hangs to provide here, but as I say above, with a
>> refresh it usually goes away.
>> 
>> In sum, this is apparently happening to no one else?
>> 
> 
> Yep.. just saw the same behavior.. as soon as I disabled "ClickToFlash" the
> problem went away.

Interesting.  I do in fact have ClickToFlash plugged in.

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#71597

On 2015-03-19, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2015-03-19 02:50:37 +0000, tmo1138 said:
>
>> On 2015-03-17, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Give us a couple example URLs and we'll see.
>>> 
>>> Type any text string into google preceded by "youtube", click any
>>> result.  I just went to find an "example" and *everything* comes up
>>> flashing that message (above), but then quickly reverts to displaying
>>> the HTML5 icon.  My issue is that sometimes it just sits on that page.
>>> 
>>> I'll wait till one hangs to provide here, but as I say above, with a
>>> refresh it usually goes away.
>>> 
>>> In sum, this is apparently happening to no one else?
>>> 
>> 
>> Yep.. just saw the same behavior.. as soon as I disabled "ClickToFlash" the
>> problem went away.
>
> Interesting.  I do in fact have ClickToFlash plugged in.

Yeah, well that behavior wouldn't be enough to make me stop using
ClickToFlash. I prefer my browsing experience the way it is, even if it
means having to occasionally click twice on a video to load it. : )

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#71614

On 2015-03-19 13:24:05 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

>>> Yep.. just saw the same behavior.. as soon as I disabled "ClickToFlash" the
>>> problem went away.
>> 
>> Interesting.  I do in fact have ClickToFlash plugged in.
> 
> Yeah, well that behavior wouldn't be enough to make me stop using
> ClickToFlash. I prefer my browsing experience the way it is, even if it
> means having to occasionally click twice on a video to load it. : )

Agreed.

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#71652

On 2015-03-19, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2015-03-19 13:24:05 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>>>> Yep.. just saw the same behavior.. as soon as I disabled "ClickToFlash" the
>>>> problem went away.
>>> 
>>> Interesting.  I do in fact have ClickToFlash plugged in.
>> 
>> Yeah, well that behavior wouldn't be enough to make me stop using
>> ClickToFlash. I prefer my browsing experience the way it is, even if it
>> means having to occasionally click twice on a video to load it. : )
>
> Agreed.
>

+1

Any inconvience is negated by the fact I don't have to deal with flash.. :)

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The only certainty is that nothing is certain.
		-- Pliny the Elder

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#71448

On 2015-03-16 19:27:10 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2015-03-16, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> OS 10.10.2
>> Safari 8.0.3
>> 
>> About 80% of the time I go to YouTube I get a dark display (within the
>> YouTube's frame) with the following message.
>> 
>> 	Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available.
>> 	Click here to visit our frequently aksed questions about HTML5 video.
>> 
>> No, play, mute or other tools.
>> 
>> If I click somewhere in the frame in usually goes away and I continue
>> as always.  If I trigger a page refresh it gives me the correct display
>> maybe half the time.  Sometimes I have to do it a few times.  It's a
>> pain.
>> 
>> Others getting this?  Can anything be done other than changing to
>> another browser?
> 
> Give us a couple example URLs and we'll see.

Okay, this one:

	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25RGIv4I9yM

It hangs, and is done.  I refresh and it comes up right.

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#71453

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 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2015-03-16 19:27:10 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

>> Give us a couple example URLs and we'll see.

> Okay, this one:

> 	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25RGIv4I9yM

> It hangs, and is done.  I refresh and it comes up right.

It plays fine, for me.  The music plays from beginning to end, without 
any hang or hitch.  The video is what it is.

    00:00 - 00:03 : title
    00:03 - 00:09 : bad photo of paper title
    00:09 - 03:04 : photo of artist
    03:04 - 03:09 : same bad photo of paper title
    03:09 - 03:29 : credits

Were you expecting more action?  There certainly isn't much of it to 
miss.  The few existing transitions can't be more than two or three 
frames long; barely enough to be a subliminal message.

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 Be kind to animals; kiss a shark.

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#71471

On 2015-03-17 23:58:40 +0000, David Ritz said:

>> Okay, this one:
> 
>> 	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25RGIv4I9yM
> 
>> It hangs, and is done.  I refresh and it comes up right.
> 
> It plays fine, for me.  The music plays from beginning to end, without
> any hang or hitch.  The video is what it is.
> 
>     00:00 - 00:03 : title
>     00:03 - 00:09 : bad photo of paper title
>     00:09 - 03:04 : photo of artist
>     03:04 - 03:09 : same bad photo of paper title
>     03:09 - 03:29 : credits
> 
> Were you expecting more action?  There certainly isn't much of it to
> miss.  The few existing transitions can't be more than two or three
> frames long; barely enough to be a subliminal message.

It plays fine for me too, it just gives me the display indicated in the 
original post:

	Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available.
	Click here to visit our frequently aksed questions about HTML5 video.

And sits there.  When I refresh the page it comes up right and plays 
just like it did for you with no further problems.  Sometimes I have to 
refresh a 2nd or 3rd time, though I didn't have the problem with this 
one.

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#71469

Okay, so one time? In band camp? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> was all, like:
> 	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25RGIv4I9yM

> It hangs, and is done.  I refresh and it comes up right.

On 10.10.2 and 10.10.3b it loads up and starts to play. No hang. No
Extensions. Default settings in Safari.

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#71472

On 2015-03-18 00:29:06 +0000, Lewis said:

> Okay, so one time? In band camp? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> was all, like:
>> 	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25RGIv4I9yM
> 
>> It hangs, and is done.  I refresh and it comes up right.
> 
> On 10.10.2 and 10.10.3b it loads up and starts to play. No hang. No
> Extensions. Default settings in Safari.

Stated in my initial post:

OS 10.10.2
Safari 8.0.3

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#71473

On 2015-03-16 18:30:09 +0000, gtr said:

> OS 10.10.2
> Safari 8.0.3
> 
> About 80% of the time I go to YouTube I get a dark display (within the 
> YouTube's frame) with the following message.
> 
> 	Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available.
> 	Click here to visit our frequently aksed questions about HTML5 video.
> 
> No, play, mute or other tools.
> 
> If I click somewhere in the frame in usually goes away and I continue 
> as always.  If I trigger a page refresh it gives me the correct display 
> maybe half the time.  Sometimes I have to do it a few times.  It's a 
> pain.
> 
> Others getting this?  Can anything be done other than changing to 
> another browser?

Okay then, nobody is getting it but me.  Thanks for the input.

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