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  Apple Watch: The Disappointments "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-10 16:29 -0400
    Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-03-13 12:08 -0700
      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-03-13 15:57 -0400
        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-03-13 16:01 -0700
      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 09:11 -0400
        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 07:31 -0700
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 10:46 -0400
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-14 14:29 -0700
              Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 16:14 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-15 12:07 +1200
                Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-14 17:22 -0700
                  Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-15 15:14 +0000
                    Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 11:56 -0700
                      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 03:19 +0000
              Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 19:25 -0400
        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-14 07:52 -0700
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 11:01 -0400
        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-14 14:26 -0700
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 19:24 -0400
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-14 17:24 -0700
              Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-16 18:46 -0400
      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-16 10:56 -0700
        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-16 11:17 -0700
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-17 11:07 +0000
    Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-13 14:48 -0700
      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 17:53 -0400
      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-13 15:02 -0700
        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-14 13:11 +1300
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 20:12 -0400
        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-19 02:02 +0000
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-18 22:14 -0700
      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-03-13 18:10 -0400
        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 18:18 -0400
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-13 22:25 +0000
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-13 18:31 -0400
              Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-13 22:54 +0000
                Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-13 19:22 -0400
                  Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-14 08:16 +0000
                    Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-14 05:55 -0700
                      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 07:35 -0700
                      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-14 14:59 +0000
                Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-13 23:48 +0000
                  Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-14 09:27 +0000
                Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-13 18:32 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-13 19:03 -0700
                  Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-19 14:36 -0700
                    Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-19 17:47 -0400
                    Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-03-19 16:39 -0700
                    Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-20 13:17 +1200
              Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-13 23:46 +0000
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 18:53 -0400
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-13 23:46 +0000
              Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-13 22:10 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 22:27 -0400
                  Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-14 07:13 +0000
                Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-13 19:33 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-14 07:57 +0000
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-14 07:53 +0000
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 07:33 -0700
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-03-14 00:10 -0400
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 00:50 -0400
              Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-03-14 04:34 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 08:21 -0400
                  Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-03-15 06:25 -0400
                    Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-15 09:07 -0400
                      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-03-15 16:33 -0400
                        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-15 19:10 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-14 14:25 -0700
                  Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-03-15 06:32 -0400
                    Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-15 09:19 -0400
                      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-15 07:45 -0700
                        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-15 10:56 -0400
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-13 22:12 -0700
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-14 01:20 -0400
              Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 01:22 -0400
              Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-14 18:49 +1300
              Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-14 08:07 +0000
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-14 08:04 +0000
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-14 07:50 +0000
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 07:44 -0700
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-14 14:14 -0700
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2015-03-15 07:13 +0100
              Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-15 02:22 -0400
              Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-15 15:16 +0000
                Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-15 12:35 -0400
                  Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-15 16:46 +0000
                    Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-15 12:53 -0400
                      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 11:38 -0700
                      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-15 19:27 +0000
                      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-15 19:10 -0400
                        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-15 19:30 -0400
                          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 00:32 +0000
                            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-03-16 06:18 -0700
                          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-15 22:11 -0400
                          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 19:58 -0700
                            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-16 07:01 -0400
                              Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-16 10:30 -0400
                              Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-17 10:59 +0000
                                Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-17 07:06 -0400
                          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 03:22 +0000
                    Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-15 14:02 -0400
                      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 11:38 -0700
                    Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 11:37 -0700
                      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-15 19:28 +0000
                        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 13:50 -0700
                    Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2015-03-16 07:20 +0100
                      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-16 04:28 -0700
                        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 14:47 +0000
                          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-16 20:27 -0400
                        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-16 20:24 -0400
                  Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-15 11:33 -0700
                  Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 11:37 -0700
                  Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 03:21 +0000
                    Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-15 23:23 -0400
                      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 04:35 +0000
                  Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments David Fritzinger <email@domain.com> - 2015-03-16 12:27 -0400
                    Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-17 09:10 +1200
              Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 11:36 -0700
        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-13 18:29 -0400
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-13 16:35 -0700
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-14 13:04 +1300
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-14 00:10 +0000
        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-14 07:44 +0000
        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 09:17 -0400
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 07:49 -0700
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 11:00 -0400
              Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 16:15 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-15 12:02 +1200
        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-19 14:33 -0700
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-03-19 16:36 -0700
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-03-20 12:45 +0000
      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 09:14 -0400
    Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-16 10:18 -0700
      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 17:22 +0000
        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-16 10:30 -0700
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 17:37 +0000
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-16 11:14 -0700
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-17 09:16 +1200
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-16 20:36 -0400
            Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 11:21 -0700
              Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-17 11:30 -0700
        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-16 11:14 -0700
          Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 18:17 +0000
      Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-17 11:02 +0000
        Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 11:17 -0700

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#70995

In article <550364b9$0$27017$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <mdvn7i$ho3$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > I have a Seiko Kinetic that winds itself.  I have another Seiko that 
> > charges itself by ambient light sources.
> 
> I have a Swiss Army Watch, the battery lasts about 2 years. It's deadly 
> accurate (once you set if from a deadly accurate source -- it has that 
> "hacking" thing going on). I can go down to 100 metres underwater 
> wearing it, if I don't stay down there too long. 
> 
> I also have 2 worthless Rolexes (trust me, there are such things) one of 
> which was probably water*proof* back in 1957.

Only two years ... that's pathetic. :-) 
I think my Casio watch battery is claimed for five years and has
actually lasts a lot longer than that.

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#70997

On 2015-03-14, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> In article <550364b9$0$27017$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com>,
> Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <mdvn7i$ho3$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > I have a Seiko Kinetic that winds itself.  I have another Seiko that 
>> > charges itself by ambient light sources.
>> 
>> I have a Swiss Army Watch, the battery lasts about 2 years. It's deadly 
>> accurate (once you set if from a deadly accurate source -- it has that 
>> "hacking" thing going on). I can go down to 100 metres underwater 
>> wearing it, if I don't stay down there too long. 
>> 
>> I also have 2 worthless Rolexes (trust me, there are such things) one of 
>> which was probably water*proof* back in 1957.
>
> Only two years ... that's pathetic. :-) 
> I think my Casio watch battery is claimed for five years and has
> actually lasts a lot longer than that.

I have you all beat. My steel sundial will last until Sol becomes a red
giant and swallows the Earth. Clearly this means the Apple Watch will
fail miserably.

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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#71012

Okay, so one time? In band camp? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> was all, like:
> On 2015-03-13 21:48:15 +0000, Oregonian Haruspex 
> <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> said:

>> A watch with an 18 hour battery life is not exactly that great.  I feel 
>> that even calling it a watch is a bit of a misnomer - it's a second 
>> screen for the iPhone.

> Marie Antoinette had a watch that provided it's own energy to run continuously.

> I have a Seiko Kinetic that winds itself.  I have another Seiko that 
> charges itself by ambient light sources.

> I can't understand why Apple, who usually are the innovators, didn't do 
> a better job on this.

The amount of power required for a smartwatch far exceeds what could
easily be generated kinetically or via a solar cell.

> If you forget to charge this every day, all you have is a paperweight...

It charges pretty quickly.

I will be curious how much charge it uses from 100% at bedtime to the
next morning. I would be far more likely to charge a watch during the
day or in the evening than over night (based on when I charge my Pebble,
which goes completely dead at least 3 times a month because I forget to
charge it up every few days).


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#71027

On 2015-03-13 18:10, FPP wrote:
> On 2015-03-13 21:48:15 +0000, Oregonian Haruspex
> <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> said:
>
>> A watch with an 18 hour battery life is not exactly that great.  I
>> feel that even calling it a watch is a bit of a misnomer - it's a
>> second screen for the iPhone.
>
> Marie Antoinette had a watch that provided it's own energy to run
> continuously.
>
> I have a Seiko Kinetic that winds itself.  I have another Seiko that
> charges itself by ambient light sources.
>
> I can't understand why Apple, who usually are the innovators, didn't do
> a better job on this.
>
> If you forget to charge this every day, all you have is a paperweight...

Since the Watch will do a million fold more than the watches you 
describe it's like comparing a canoe to a racing yacht.  The former 
doesn't need fuel other than the user, the later needs fuel to do its thing.

As usual, those who didn't get the iPhone when it came out are those who 
don't get the Watch now.

In a sense calling one an iPhone and the other a Watch just confuses 
those with little imagination.

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#71033

On 3/14/15   PDT 6:17 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2015-03-13 18:10, FPP wrote:
>> On 2015-03-13 21:48:15 +0000, Oregonian Haruspex
>> <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> said:
>>
>>> A watch with an 18 hour battery life is not exactly that great.  I
>>> feel that even calling it a watch is a bit of a misnomer - it's a
>>> second screen for the iPhone.
>>
>> Marie Antoinette had a watch that provided it's own energy to run
>> continuously.
>>
>> I have a Seiko Kinetic that winds itself.  I have another Seiko that
>> charges itself by ambient light sources.
>>
>> I can't understand why Apple, who usually are the innovators, didn't do
>> a better job on this.
>>
>> If you forget to charge this every day, all you have is a paperweight...
>
> Since the Watch will do a million fold more than the watches you
> describe it's like comparing a canoe to a racing yacht.  The former
> doesn't need fuel other than the user, the later needs fuel to do its
> thing.

A racing yacht would be a sailboat, probably in excess of 50'.  A racing 
boat needs fuel, but ain't much of a yacht.

OTOH, a motor powered yacht ideally is in excess of 40' and has some 
brightwork and stainless steel on her. (not all plastic)

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#71036

On 2015-03-14 10:49, John McWilliams wrote:
> On 3/14/15   PDT 6:17 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2015-03-13 18:10, FPP wrote:
>>> On 2015-03-13 21:48:15 +0000, Oregonian Haruspex
>>> <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> said:
>>>
>>>> A watch with an 18 hour battery life is not exactly that great.  I
>>>> feel that even calling it a watch is a bit of a misnomer - it's a
>>>> second screen for the iPhone.
>>>
>>> Marie Antoinette had a watch that provided it's own energy to run
>>> continuously.
>>>
>>> I have a Seiko Kinetic that winds itself.  I have another Seiko that
>>> charges itself by ambient light sources.
>>>
>>> I can't understand why Apple, who usually are the innovators, didn't do
>>> a better job on this.
>>>
>>> If you forget to charge this every day, all you have is a paperweight...
>>
>> Since the Watch will do a million fold more than the watches you
>> describe it's like comparing a canoe to a racing yacht.  The former
>> doesn't need fuel other than the user, the later needs fuel to do its
>> thing.
>
> A racing yacht would be a sailboat, probably in excess of 50'.  A racing
> boat needs fuel, but ain't much of a yacht.
>
> OTOH, a motor powered yacht ideally is in excess of 40' and has some
> brightwork and stainless steel on her. (not all plastic)
>
I defer to your definitions, Sir.

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#71068

On 3/14/15   PDT 8:00 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2015-03-14 10:49, John McWilliams wrote:
>> On 3/14/15   PDT 6:17 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>> On 2015-03-13 18:10, FPP wrote:
>>>> On 2015-03-13 21:48:15 +0000, Oregonian Haruspex
>>>> <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>> A watch with an 18 hour battery life is not exactly that great.  I
>>>>> feel that even calling it a watch is a bit of a misnomer - it's a
>>>>> second screen for the iPhone.
>>>>
>>>> Marie Antoinette had a watch that provided it's own energy to run
>>>> continuously.
>>>>
>>>> I have a Seiko Kinetic that winds itself.  I have another Seiko that
>>>> charges itself by ambient light sources.
>>>>
>>>> I can't understand why Apple, who usually are the innovators, didn't do
>>>> a better job on this.
>>>>
>>>> If you forget to charge this every day, all you have is a
>>>> paperweight...
>>>
>>> Since the Watch will do a million fold more than the watches you
>>> describe it's like comparing a canoe to a racing yacht.  The former
>>> doesn't need fuel other than the user, the later needs fuel to do its
>>> thing.
>>
>> A racing yacht would be a sailboat, probably in excess of 50'.  A racing
>> boat needs fuel, but ain't much of a yacht.
>>
>> OTOH, a motor powered yacht ideally is in excess of 40' and has some
>> brightwork and stainless steel on her. (not all plastic)
>>
> I defer to your definitions, Sir.
>
That'd be Commodore, Sir!

:)

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#71075

In article <me2fdu$fal$2@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams
<jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 3/14/15   PDT 8:00 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
> > On 2015-03-14 10:49, John McWilliams wrote:
> >> On 3/14/15   PDT 6:17 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
> >>> On 2015-03-13 18:10, FPP wrote:
> >>>> On 2015-03-13 21:48:15 +0000, Oregonian Haruspex
> >>>> <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> said:
> >>>>
> >>>>> A watch with an 18 hour battery life is not exactly that great.  I
> >>>>> feel that even calling it a watch is a bit of a misnomer - it's a
> >>>>> second screen for the iPhone.
> >>>>
> >>>> Marie Antoinette had a watch that provided it's own energy to run
> >>>> continuously.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a Seiko Kinetic that winds itself.  I have another Seiko that
> >>>> charges itself by ambient light sources.
> >>>>
> >>>> I can't understand why Apple, who usually are the innovators, didn't do
> >>>> a better job on this.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you forget to charge this every day, all you have is a
> >>>> paperweight...
> >>>
> >>> Since the Watch will do a million fold more than the watches you
> >>> describe it's like comparing a canoe to a racing yacht.  The former
> >>> doesn't need fuel other than the user, the later needs fuel to do its
> >>> thing.
> >>
> >> A racing yacht would be a sailboat, probably in excess of 50'.  A racing
> >> boat needs fuel, but ain't much of a yacht.
> >>
> >> OTOH, a motor powered yacht ideally is in excess of 40' and has some
> >> brightwork and stainless steel on her. (not all plastic)
> >>
> > I defer to your definitions, Sir.
> >
> That'd be Commodore, Sir!
> 
> :)

Commodore built some good computers, but was killed years ago by
incompetent management.  ;-)

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#71640

On 2015-03-13 22:10:41 +0000, FPP said:

> On 2015-03-13 21:48:15 +0000, Oregonian Haruspex 
> <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> said:
> 
>> A watch with an 18 hour battery life is not exactly that great.  I feel 
>> that even calling it a watch is a bit of a misnomer - it's a second 
>> screen for the iPhone.
> 
> Marie Antoinette had a watch that provided it's own energy to run continuously.
> 
> I have a Seiko Kinetic that winds itself.  I have another Seiko that 
> charges itself by ambient light sources.
> 
> I can't understand why Apple, who usually are the innovators, didn't do 
> a better job on this.
> 
> If you forget to charge this every day, all you have is a paperweight...

Seiko has a watch that is digitally controlled but uses a conventional 
self-winding works called the Spring Drive.

The Apple Watch is going to sell like hotcakes even though it's pretty 
silly.  I look forward to seeing the cell phone zombies trying to 
simultaneously stare at their phone's screen and their wrist all at the 
same time.  Makes walking and chewing gum seem easy!

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#71646

On 2015-03-19 21:33:13 +0000, Oregonian Haruspex said:

> The Apple Watch is going to sell like hotcakes even though it's pretty 
> silly.  I look forward to seeing the cell phone zombies trying to 
> simultaneously stare at their phone's screen and their wrist all at the 
> same time.

That's actually a pretty interesting observation.  The smartphone 
obsessives, many of the millions of them, can't seem to avoid 
participating in endless texts, tweets, and other bullshit all the day 
long.  I can't imagine the simplistic utility of the apple watch could 
replace the soul-aborbing process they are already involved in.  So 
even though they are the logical early adopters, I think they may be 
the easiest to become dissatisfied with it.

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#71666

On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 16:36:45 -0700, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

>On 2015-03-19 21:33:13 +0000, Oregonian Haruspex said:
>
>> The Apple Watch is going to sell like hotcakes even though it's pretty 
>> silly.  I look forward to seeing the cell phone zombies trying to 
>> simultaneously stare at their phone's screen and their wrist all at the 
>> same time.
>
>That's actually a pretty interesting observation.  The smartphone 
>obsessives, many of the millions of them, can't seem to avoid 
>participating in endless texts, tweets, and other bullshit all the day 
>long.  I can't imagine the simplistic utility of the apple watch could 
>replace the soul-aborbing process they are already involved in.  So 
>even though they are the logical early adopters, I think they may be 
>the easiest to become dissatisfied with it.

 Not if it does *one* thing the phones do not and "fitness" seems to
be the one "killer-app" that most of the Band/Watch makers are pushing
as *their* version of a killer.
 Phones don't tend to do "fitness" well without external sensors.
Wtches can do everything from pulse and steps to blood sugars. This
could be the niche the iWatch reigns in. 
 Or not.
 For my part I'm very sure I don't want Apple, Microsoft, Google and
the USAlien spies services knowing how bloody unfit I am. I get
sufficient nagging from my very own doctors, thank you.
                                                      J. 

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#71026

On 2015-03-13 17:48, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
> A watch with an 18 hour battery life is not exactly that great.  I feel
> that even calling it a watch is a bit of a misnomer - it's a second
> screen for the iPhone.

Not at all.  It is definitely an extension to the iPhone and they depend 
on each other for data.  The phone is both display, app host and sensor. 
  Far more than a watch of course.

As to the battery cycle I don't sleep with a watch on so if it charges 
during that time then all is well.  Though having to bring another 
charging device on travel is admittedly  a PITA.  A Y cable for charging 
both phone and watch might be useful.

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#71278

On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 16:29:50 -0400
"M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> wrote:

> http://www.newyorker.com/cartoons/daily-cartoon/daily-cartoon-tuesday-march-10th-apple-watch?


did they design and engineering and marketing teams ever stop and
ask any of their test "subjects" if they would even wear a watch

I think they forgot that one question

1. How do you like it?
Respondent: It looks nice and it's pleasing

2. Do you like the features?
Respondent: The features are very nice and useful

3. Do you like our price ranges?
Respondent: Yes it's broad enough to appeal to a lot of people

4. Do you like the colors?
Respondent: Good color options

5. Would you wear the watch regularly?
Respondent: Yes

6. Do you wear a watch?
Respondent: No


drum roll please

7. Would you buy this AAPL Watch?
Respondent: No I check time on my iPhone











 

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#71280

On 2015-03-16, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
>
> AAPL Watch

It's called an "Apple Watch". AAPL is a stock symbol. Using stock
symbols in place of actual company names is pretty silly, and doesn't
fool the rest of us into thinking you are any smarter or cooler than you
actually are.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#71281

On 16 Mar 2015 17:22:17 GMT
intravenous AAPL koolaider Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> It's called an "Apple Watch". AAPL is a stock symbol. Using stock

they need to change the name of one or the other
maybe compromise aaple or aapple


but still watch wearers are a dwindling market space not growing










 




 

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#71283

On 2015-03-16, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> On 16 Mar 2015 17:22:17 GMT
> intravenous AAPL koolaider Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> It's called an "Apple Watch". AAPL is a stock symbol. Using stock
>
> they need to change the name of one or the other

No, they don't; and neither do all the other companies on the planet.

> maybe compromise aaple or aapple

Just because you say so. Whatever.

> but still watch wearers are a dwindling market space not growing

That must be why so many companies are clamouring to get into the smart
watch market right now. 

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#71295

In article <me73v9$6ap$11@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet
<electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:

> On 16 Mar 2015 17:22:17 GMT
> intravenous AAPL koolaider Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > It's called an "Apple Watch". AAPL is a stock symbol. Using stock
> 
> they need to change the name of one or the other
> maybe compromise aaple or aapple

No, they don't.

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#71314

In article <me73v9$6ap$11@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet
<electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> On 16 Mar 2015 17:22:17 GMT
> intravenous AAPL koolaider Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > 
> > It's called an "Apple Watch". AAPL is a stock symbol. Using stock
> 
> they need to change the name of one or the other
> maybe compromise aaple or aapple
> 
> but still watch wearers are a dwindling market space not growing

You're missing the fact that the Apple Watch isn't designed to be just
a watch, or even just a watch with stopwatch and alarm functions. 

It's currently designed to basically be a secondary display / input
device for those who are too lazy to take their iPhone out of their
pocket / purse / briefcase.

Later this year Apple will be releasing the Watch Kit programming
functions that will allow developers to create Apple Watch specific
apps, which may or may not make it far more useful by itself.

The real issue with the Apple Watch is that it's simply too expensive.
If it had been released at an iPod Shuffle-like price point, then it
would have made more sense.

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#71333

On 15-03-16 13:30, Electric Comet wrote:

> but still watch wearers are a dwindling market space not growing

If your target market is rich people for whom a watch is a status
symbol, that market is not dwindling.

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#71385

On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 20:36:42 -0400
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> If your target market is rich people for whom a watch is a status
> symbol, that market is not dwindling.

Very niche

even clocks for the home market is tanking and has for a long time
I see fewer people wearing a watch
athletes wear heart mons, etc. but most people look at their phone

no one wants extra stuff to haul around, etc.

















 

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