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  MacBook Pro is bolshy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-24 18:41 -0800
    Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-25 16:11 +1300
      Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-25 16:39 -0800
        Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 00:59 +0000
    Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-02-24 23:17 -0500
    Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-25 00:12 -0500
      Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-25 07:33 -0500
        Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-25 16:33 -0800
      Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-25 16:42 -0800
        Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 01:01 +0000
          Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-25 17:05 -0800
    Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-02-25 19:35 -0800
      Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-25 21:49 -0800
        Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-26 18:56 +1300
          Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 08:07 -0500
            Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-26 07:26 -0800
              Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 11:59 -0500
                Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-27 11:12 -0800
                  Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-02-27 14:13 -0500
                    Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-27 11:30 -0800
                      Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-27 20:13 +0000
                        Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-27 14:02 -0800
                          Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-28 02:23 +0000
                  Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-27 20:13 +0000
                    Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-27 14:01 -0800
          Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-26 07:41 -0800
        Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-02-26 19:03 -0800
          Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-27 11:14 -0800
            Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-27 16:13 -0500
              Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-27 14:13 -0800
                Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-03 16:29 -0800
                  Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-03 19:40 -0500
                    Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-04 16:15 +1300
                      Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-04 05:55 -0500
                        Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-04 16:02 +0000
                          Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-04 13:06 -0500
                            Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-04 19:06 +0000
                              Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-04 14:28 -0500
                  Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-03 19:56 -0500
                  Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-04 16:49 +1300
                    Re: MacBook Pro is bolshy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-03 21:54 -0800

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#70305

On 2015-02-27, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 2/27/15   PDT 11:13 AM, nospam wrote:
>> In article <mcqfh3$8dn$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams
>> <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>    Even though it said "Volume repair complete", the next line says
>>> "Updating boot support partitions for the volume as required". Followed
>>> by "Error: Disk Utility can't repair this disk. backup as many of your
>>> files as possible, reformat the disk, and restore your backed up files."-
>>> Which also shows up in a popup dialog, with the only choice being "OK".
>>>
>>> Running fsck -fy eventually returns "The volume MBP500 could not be
>>> verified completely".
>>
>> get disk warrior.
>>
> I knew that would come up sooner or later. Don't want to spend $100 or 
> so for a small possibility. Not a problem if it would work.

Better to spend that money on a backup drive anyway so that next time
you won't be caught off guard. ; )

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#70310

On 2/27/15   PDT 12:13 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-02-27, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 2/27/15   PDT 11:13 AM, nospam wrote:
>>> In article <mcqfh3$8dn$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams
>>> <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Even though it said "Volume repair complete", the next line says
>>>> "Updating boot support partitions for the volume as required". Followed
>>>> by "Error: Disk Utility can't repair this disk. backup as many of your
>>>> files as possible, reformat the disk, and restore your backed up files."-
>>>> Which also shows up in a popup dialog, with the only choice being "OK".
>>>>
>>>> Running fsck -fy eventually returns "The volume MBP500 could not be
>>>> verified completely".
>>>
>>> get disk warrior.
>>>
>> I knew that would come up sooner or later. Don't want to spend $100 or
>> so for a small possibility. Not a problem if it would work.
>
> Better to spend that money on a backup drive anyway so that next time
> you won't be caught off guard. ; )
>
Back up drives he has, and I have. It's getting him to use same. This 
will help.

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#70319

On 2015-02-27, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 2/27/15   PDT 12:13 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2015-02-27, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> On 2/27/15   PDT 11:13 AM, nospam wrote:
>>>> In article <mcqfh3$8dn$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams
>>>> <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>     Even though it said "Volume repair complete", the next line says
>>>>> "Updating boot support partitions for the volume as required". Followed
>>>>> by "Error: Disk Utility can't repair this disk. backup as many of your
>>>>> files as possible, reformat the disk, and restore your backed up files."-
>>>>> Which also shows up in a popup dialog, with the only choice being "OK".
>>>>>
>>>>> Running fsck -fy eventually returns "The volume MBP500 could not be
>>>>> verified completely".
>>>>
>>>> get disk warrior.
>>>>
>>> I knew that would come up sooner or later. Don't want to spend $100 or
>>> so for a small possibility. Not a problem if it would work.
>>
>> Better to spend that money on a backup drive anyway so that next time
>> you won't be caught off guard. ; )
>>
> Back up drives he has, and I have. It's getting him to use same. This 
> will help.

If you use Time Machine, connecting it to the computer is all that is
needed. If you don't leave it connected all the time, plugging it in
once a day or once a week would be better than nothing.

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#70304

On 2015-02-27, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 2/26/15   PDT 8:59 AM, Warren Oates wrote:
>>
>> What MacBook Pro is it? Or what year, if you're not sure? If it's got a
>> firewire 800 port, it's probably new enough to also boot from a USB stick.
>
> Can't access the about this Mac, but it has the large square removable 
> battery on the bottom.

It's simple to find out the name of the exact model you have:

1. Get the serial number off the bottom of the computer.
2. Go to this web page in a web browser: http://support.apple.com/specs/
3. Click "Browse By Product" at the top of the page.
4. Paste your serial number into the search field and click Search.

The technical specifications for your model will be displayed. The
official name of the model is something like "Mac Pro (Early 2008)", for
instance. 

If you further want the official model identifier, you can then head
over to http://www.everymac.com and search for the model name you just
obtained. For the previous Mac Pro example, that would bring you to this
page, where you can see the model number is A1186 and the model ID is
MacPro3,1:

<http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/specs/mac-pro-eight-core-2.8-2008-specs.html>

When someone asks you what model you have, that's the type of
information they want.

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#70309

On 2/27/15   PDT 12:13 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-02-27, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 2/26/15   PDT 8:59 AM, Warren Oates wrote:
>>>
>>> What MacBook Pro is it? Or what year, if you're not sure? If it's got a
>>> firewire 800 port, it's probably new enough to also boot from a USB stick.
>>
>> Can't access the about this Mac, but it has the large square removable
>> battery on the bottom.
>
> It's simple to find out the name of the exact model you have:
>
> 1. Get the serial number off the bottom of the computer.
> 2. Go to this web page in a web browser: http://support.apple.com/specs/
> 3. Click "Browse By Product" at the top of the page.
> 4. Paste your serial number into the search field and click Search.
>
> The technical specifications for your model will be displayed. The
> official name of the model is something like "Mac Pro (Early 2008)", for
> instance.
>
> If you further want the official model identifier, you can then head
> over to http://www.everymac.com and search for the model name you just
> obtained. For the previous Mac Pro example, that would bring you to this
> page, where you can see the model number is A1186 and the model ID is
> MacPro3,1:
>
> <http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/specs/mac-pro-eight-core-2.8-2008-specs.html>
>
> When someone asks you what model you have, that's the type of
> information they want.
>
Thanks. I think I knew there was a way but was too tired to pursue it. 
Now I know.

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#70252

On 2/25/15   PDT 9:56 PM, Your Name wrote:
> In article <mcmc4c$9g6$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams
> <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 2/25/15   PDT 7:35 PM, Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
>>> In article <mcjcmm$skr$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>    John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My son's MBP doesn't boot up.
>>>>
>>>> I have run Disk Utility many times, fsck -fy several times, tried Target
>>>> Mode but it doesn't show up on any of three different Macs, and all
>>>> messages seem to say the HD is bad, recover all the files you can, and
>>>> get a new HDD. OK, but I don't see how I can access said files. It will
>>>> boot into recovery mode, but still no visibility of files on the HDD.
>>>> He's overloaded it, with only 10 Gigs free out of 500. Several years ago
>>>> I put in a combo drive (part SS, part HD), and I cannot say what exact
>>>> model it is, but it has the big battery door on the bottom. FW800 port,
>>>> optical drive (which is also Bolshevik).
>>>>
>>>> I am out of ideas short of taking it to the Apple geniuses. Oh, it does
>>>> boot into verbose mode, but a minute or two later it shuts down by itself.
>>>>
>>>> Prayers,  guidance, smart remarks, mostly appreciative will I be.
>>>
>>> The disk is probably scrambled by the MBP suffering from hardware
>>> failure.  Move the disk to a new computer, repair it, and recover files.
>>
>> The disk spins up in situ, but is unreadable in Target Mode or via the
>> Recovery Partition. I can't quite see how stripping it out and trying to
>> mount it elsewhere would help. Could you please elaborate?
>
> Potentially if the problem is with the MacBook Pro's hardware itself
> (e.g. I/O, motherboard, etc.), then taking the drive out and putting it
> into a USB enclosure may mean it works when plugged into another Mac.
> It's unlikely, but could be worth a try if you have an enclosure or
> hard drive dock (or a Mac Pro tower model), or can get one cheaply.

The fact that it boots off the recovery partition suggest to me that 
it's not the motherboard. And it could be software only, with the SSD 
and HDD not playing together, giving a hardware error message.

That it boots into Target mode but isn't readable is a bit baffling, but 
who knows.... The Shadow??

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#70267

In article <mcmc4c$9g6$1@dont-email.me>,
 John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 2/25/15   PDT 7:35 PM, Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
> > In article <mcjcmm$skr$1@dont-email.me>,
> >   John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> My son's MBP doesn't boot up.
> >>
> >> I have run Disk Utility many times, fsck -fy several times, tried Target
> >> Mode but it doesn't show up on any of three different Macs, and all
> >> messages seem to say the HD is bad, recover all the files you can, and
> >> get a new HDD. OK, but I don't see how I can access said files. It will
> >> boot into recovery mode, but still no visibility of files on the HDD.
> >> He's overloaded it, with only 10 Gigs free out of 500. Several years ago
> >> I put in a combo drive (part SS, part HD), and I cannot say what exact
> >> model it is, but it has the big battery door on the bottom. FW800 port,
> >> optical drive (which is also Bolshevik).
> >>
> >> I am out of ideas short of taking it to the Apple geniuses. Oh, it does
> >> boot into verbose mode, but a minute or two later it shuts down by itself.
> >>
> >> Prayers,  guidance, smart remarks, mostly appreciative will I be.
> >
> > The disk is probably scrambled by the MBP suffering from hardware
> > failure.  Move the disk to a new computer, repair it, and recover files.
> 
> The disk spins up in situ, but is unreadable in Target Mode or via the 
> Recovery Partition. I can't quite see how stripping it out and trying to 
> mount it elsewhere would help. Could you please elaborate?

Yes, it could be the drive but it's very suspicious that the computer 
reboots itself.  Drive failures usually cause panics, app crashes, and 
lockups.

Target Mode mode needs all the main computer hardware working.  It's not 
a direct hookup that bypasses everything.

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#70301

On 2/26/15   PDT 7:03 PM, Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
> In article <mcmc4c$9g6$1@dont-email.me>,
>   John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> On 2/25/15   PDT 7:35 PM, Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
>>> In article <mcjcmm$skr$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>    John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My son's MBP doesn't boot up.
>>>>
>>>> I have run Disk Utility many times, fsck -fy several times, tried Target
>>>> Mode but it doesn't show up on any of three different Macs, and all
>>>> messages seem to say the HD is bad, recover all the files you can, and
>>>> get a new HDD. OK, but I don't see how I can access said files. It will
>>>> boot into recovery mode, but still no visibility of files on the HDD.
>>>> He's overloaded it, with only 10 Gigs free out of 500. Several years ago
>>>> I put in a combo drive (part SS, part HD), and I cannot say what exact
>>>> model it is, but it has the big battery door on the bottom. FW800 port,
>>>> optical drive (which is also Bolshevik).
>>>>
>>>> I am out of ideas short of taking it to the Apple geniuses. Oh, it does
>>>> boot into verbose mode, but a minute or two later it shuts down by itself.
>>>>
>>>> Prayers,  guidance, smart remarks, mostly appreciative will I be.
>>>
>>> The disk is probably scrambled by the MBP suffering from hardware
>>> failure.  Move the disk to a new computer, repair it, and recover files.
>>
>> The disk spins up in situ, but is unreadable in Target Mode or via the
>> Recovery Partition. I can't quite see how stripping it out and trying to
>> mount it elsewhere would help. Could you please elaborate?
>
> Yes, it could be the drive but it's very suspicious that the computer
> reboots itself.  Drive failures usually cause panics, app crashes, and
> lockups.

It doesn't reboot itself, but merely shuts down with no dialog.
>
> Target Mode mode needs all the main computer hardware working.  It's not
> a direct hookup that bypasses everything.

It seems to me it could be software, but either way, while the screen 
gives the Target Mode graphic, nothing is able to access that which is 
targeted.

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#70307

In article <mcqfm7$8dn$2@dont-email.me>,
 John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:

> It seems to me it could be software, but either way, while the screen 
> gives the Target Mode graphic, nothing is able to access that which is 
> targeted.

You mean that the drive on the MBP doesn't show up on the connected Mac? 
I'm just checking.
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Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#70311

On 2/27/15   PDT 1:13 PM, Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <mcqfm7$8dn$2@dont-email.me>,
> John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> It seems to me it could be software, but either way, while the screen
>> gives the Target Mode graphic, nothing is able to access that which is
>> targeted.
>
> You mean that the drive on the MBP doesn't show up on the connected Mac?
> I'm just checking.

  Keeee-rect! And not on the other two Macs with which I checked. Nor 
did booting - or trying to boot—via a USB stick work.

I tried to set up a fire wire drive by installing Yosemite on a 
partition, but the install stalled and told me that it wasn't formatted 
to snuff, needing GUID, but DU wouldn't let me change it. This message 
appeared on a couple of different install attempts on different HDs, all 
of which are partitioned.

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#70421

On 2/27/15   PDT 2:13 PM, John McWilliams wrote:
> On 2/27/15   PDT 1:13 PM, Warren Oates wrote:
>> In article <mcqfm7$8dn$2@dont-email.me>,
>> John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> It seems to me it could be software, but either way, while the screen
>>> gives the Target Mode graphic, nothing is able to access that which is
>>> targeted.
>>
>> You mean that the drive on the MBP doesn't show up on the connected Mac?
>> I'm just checking.
>
>   Keeee-rect! And not on the other two Macs with which I checked. Nor
> did booting - or trying to boot—via a USB stick work.
>
> I tried to set up a fire wire drive by installing Yosemite on a
> partition, but the install stalled and told me that it wasn't formatted
> to snuff, needing GUID, but DU wouldn't let me change it. This message
> appeared on a couple of different install attempts on different HDs, all
> of which are partitioned.

Oh my heavens! Success fou!

Well, some at any rate. On a bit of a guess, I erased an older FW800 
drive and installed Yosemite, after trying to boot off a large flash 
drive with Yosemite installed.  It was able to boot the old Mac and 
access its drive. Copying files now. Still not sure what the G.U.I.D. 
message was nor why DU wouldn't fix it as the Yosemite installer dialog 
said it would.

Thanks all for the ideas and help.

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#70422

In article <md5jj6$m1q$1@dont-email.me>,
 John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:

> Well, some at any rate. On a bit of a guess, I erased an older FW800 
> drive and installed Yosemite, after trying to boot off a large flash 
> drive with Yosemite installed.  It was able to boot the old Mac and 
> access its drive. Copying files now. Still not sure what the G.U.I.D. 
> message was nor why DU wouldn't fix it as the Yosemite installer dialog 
> said it would.

Excellent! I'm pleased for you. Now, I have a Seagate Barracuda that 
won't spin up ...

... and I've got a graphics card that won't fit in the bottom slot of my 
Mac Pro. It's a wrinkle I hadn't even considered.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#70425

In article <54f6548c$0$64271$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <md5jj6$m1q$1@dont-email.me>,
>  John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Well, some at any rate. On a bit of a guess, I erased an older FW800 
> > drive and installed Yosemite, after trying to boot off a large flash 
> > drive with Yosemite installed.  It was able to boot the old Mac and 
> > access its drive. Copying files now. Still not sure what the G.U.I.D. 
> > message was nor why DU wouldn't fix it as the Yosemite installer dialog 
> > said it would.
> 
> Excellent! I'm pleased for you. Now, I have a Seagate Barracuda that 
> won't spin up ...

If it literally won't spin up then it might simply not be getting
enough power (especially USB drives or a damaged cable / connector) or
it could be something like stuck bearings or slipping motor belt which
means there's pretty much nothing you can do about it (other than an
expensive repair centre).



> ... and I've got a graphics card that won't fit in the bottom slot of my 
> Mac Pro. It's a wrinkle I hadn't even considered.

Slot extender?? Although then it may not fit at the top.

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#70435

In article <040320151615007253%YourName@YourISP.com>,
 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> > ... and I've got a graphics card that won't fit in the bottom slot of my 
> > Mac Pro. It's a wrinkle I hadn't even considered.
> 
> Slot extender?? Although then it may not fit at the top.

I'm not sure how that would work. The card won't fit into slot 1 because 
the mounting screws for the heat sink raise it above the height of the 
slot (slot 1 sits almost right on top of the "memory cage."
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#70443

On 2015-03-04, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <040320151615007253%YourName@YourISP.com>,
>  Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>
>> > ... and I've got a graphics card that won't fit in the bottom slot of my 
>> > Mac Pro. It's a wrinkle I hadn't even considered.
>> 
>> Slot extender?? Although then it may not fit at the top.
>
> I'm not sure how that would work. The card won't fit into slot 1 because 
> the mounting screws for the heat sink raise it above the height of the 
> slot (slot 1 sits almost right on top of the "memory cage."

Can you post a photo of it?

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#70456

In article <clookqFjr7nU5@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-03-04, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <040320151615007253%YourName@YourISP.com>,
> >  Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > ... and I've got a graphics card that won't fit in the bottom slot of my 
> >> > Mac Pro. It's a wrinkle I hadn't even considered.
> >> 
> >> Slot extender?? Although then it may not fit at the top.
> >
> > I'm not sure how that would work. The card won't fit into slot 1 because 
> > the mounting screws for the heat sink raise it above the height of the 
> > slot (slot 1 sits almost right on top of the "memory cage."
> 
> Can you post a photo of it?

This is a totally unrelated web site, but the guy has a picture of it 
sitting on a desk (2nd pic down); you can see how high it's sitting. 
There are four black screws holding the heat sink in place.

http://vitalikovalenko.com/2012/skype-log-out-on-crash-issue.html

Here's a bunch of pics, including a good one of the bottom of the card 
(3rd pic in the series):

<https://the620guy.com/home/asus-gt610-sl-1gd3-l-nvidia-geforce-gt-610-1g
b-64-bit-ddr3-pcie-x16-video-card/>

or:
<http://tinyurl.com/mmatjjt>
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#70457

On 2015-03-04, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <clookqFjr7nU5@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-03-04, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm not sure how that would work. The card won't fit into slot 1 because 
>> > the mounting screws for the heat sink raise it above the height of the 
>> > slot (slot 1 sits almost right on top of the "memory cage."
>> 
>> Can you post a photo of it?
>
> This is a totally unrelated web site, but the guy has a picture of it 
> sitting on a desk (2nd pic down); you can see how high it's sitting. 
> There are four black screws holding the heat sink in place.
>
> http://vitalikovalenko.com/2012/skype-log-out-on-crash-issue.html
>
> Here's a bunch of pics, including a good one of the bottom of the card 
> (3rd pic in the series):
>
><https://the620guy.com/home/asus-gt610-sl-1gd3-l-nvidia-geforce-gt-610-1g
> b-64-bit-ddr3-pcie-x16-video-card/>
>
> or:
><http://tinyurl.com/mmatjjt>

Yeah, it appears those things are fairly long...

I suppose if you were *really* intent on keeping the card, you could
look for an after-market cooling solution to install in place of the OEM
heat sink - if one exists. I installed one lie that onto a Radeon 9800
card I bought for a PowerMac G5 tower once:

<http://www.accelerateyourmac.com/Graphics/VGA_silencer_install/VGA_silencer_install.html>

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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#70459

In article <clp3dsFlpk5U1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> I suppose if you were *really* intent on keeping the card, you could
> look for an after-market cooling solution to install in place of the OEM
> heat sink - if one exists. I installed one lie that onto a Radeon 9800
> card I bought for a PowerMac G5 tower once:

No, there are versions of it with a fan and normal screws on the bottom, 
if I want that card. Also, the gt630 is a better card, again with a fan. 
It only cost $50 and BestBuy will take it back -- there's a store not 
far from here. Thanks for the thought, though.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#70423

On 2015.03.03 19:29 , John McWilliams wrote:

> Oh my heavens! Success fou!
>
> Well, some at any rate. On a bit of a guess, I erased an older FW800
> drive and installed Yosemite, after trying to boot off a large flash
> drive with Yosemite installed.  It was able to boot the old Mac and
> access its drive. Copying files now. Still not sure what the G.U.I.D.
> message was nor why DU wouldn't fix it as the Yosemite installer dialog
> said it would.

Glad to hear it.  I dread dead but try to be prepared for it.

-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
                                   Benjamin Franklin

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#70426

In article <md5jj6$m1q$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams
<jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 2/27/15   PDT 2:13 PM, John McWilliams wrote:
> > On 2/27/15   PDT 1:13 PM, Warren Oates wrote:
> >> In article <mcqfm7$8dn$2@dont-email.me>,
> >> John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> It seems to me it could be software, but either way, while the screen
> >>> gives the Target Mode graphic, nothing is able to access that which is
> >>> targeted.
> >>
> >> You mean that the drive on the MBP doesn't show up on the connected Mac?
> >> I'm just checking.
> >
> >   Keeee-rect! And not on the other two Macs with which I checked. Nor
> > did booting - or trying to boot‹via a USB stick work.
> >
> > I tried to set up a fire wire drive by installing Yosemite on a
> > partition, but the install stalled and told me that it wasn't formatted
> > to snuff, needing GUID, but DU wouldn't let me change it. This message
> > appeared on a couple of different install attempts on different HDs, all
> > of which are partitioned.
> 
> Oh my heavens! Success fou!
> 
> Well, some at any rate. On a bit of a guess, I erased an older FW800 
> drive and installed Yosemite, after trying to boot off a large flash 
> drive with Yosemite installed.  It was able to boot the old Mac and 
> access its drive. Copying files now. Still not sure what the G.U.I.D. 
> message was nor why DU wouldn't fix it as the Yosemite installer dialog 
> said it would.
> 
> Thanks all for the ideas and help.

Disk Utility isn't, and isn't meant to be, fully comprehensible disk
repair software. It's designed to fix minor day-to-day errors (and is
another reason to reboot your Mac occasionally). 

For more complex issues you need to buy one of the third-party disk
utilities, although there's no guarantee those will rescue a completely
screwed disk either.

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