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What usenet client are you using?

Started byJohn Thornley <thornjohn@gmail.com>
First post2015-02-17 21:21 +0000
Last post2015-02-27 03:15 +0000
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  What usenet client are you using? John Thornley <thornjohn@gmail.com> - 2015-02-17 21:21 +0000
    Re: What usenet client are you using? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-17 17:36 -0500
      Re: What usenet client are you using? heron stone <heron@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-17 15:15 -0800
        Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-17 16:45 -0800
          Re: What usenet client are you using? erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-02-19 12:48 -0600
          Re: What usenet client are you using? Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2015-02-19 19:38 -0800
        Re: What usenet client are you using? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2015-02-18 22:50 +0100
      Re: What usenet client are you using? heron stone <heron@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-17 15:16 -0800
      Re: What usenet client are you using? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-18 19:05 -0800
    Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-02-18 02:40 +0000
      Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-17 20:25 -0800
        Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-02-18 04:32 +0000
    Re: What usenet client are you using? John  <email@domain.com> - 2015-02-18 00:18 -0600
      Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-17 23:05 -0800
    Re: What usenet client are you using? Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2015-02-18 12:47 +0000
      Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-18 17:53 +0000
    Re: What usenet client are you using? unfrostedpoptart <david@therogoffs.com> - 2015-02-18 11:12 -0800
      Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-18 19:16 +0000
        Re: What usenet client are you using? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-02-18 16:43 -0800
          Re: What usenet client are you using? John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-19 04:46 +0000
          Re: What usenet client are you using? Moi <moi@moimoimoi.net> - 2015-02-18 21:31 -0800
        Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 06:13 +1300
          Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-23 17:28 +0000
      Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-19 11:34 +0000
    Re: What usenet client are you using? Bob E. <bespoke@invalid.tv> - 2015-02-18 21:34 -0800
      Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-02-19 06:04 +0000
        Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 06:04 +1300
          Re: What usenet client are you using? Bob E. <bespoke@invalid.tv> - 2015-03-07 20:37 -0800
            Re: What usenet client are you using? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-08 17:49 +1300
              Re: What usenet client are you using? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-08 09:35 -0500
                Re: What usenet client are you using? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-08 09:39 -0500
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-08 18:31 +0000
                  Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-08 19:22 +0000
                    Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-08 19:39 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-09 08:56 +1300
                  Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-08 19:58 +0000
                    Re: What usenet client are you using? Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-03-08 16:42 -0400
                      Re: What usenet client are you using? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-09 13:31 +1300
                    Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-09 14:17 +0000
                      Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-10 00:18 +0000
                        Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-10 21:50 +0000
                          Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-11 04:46 +0000
                            Re: What usenet client are you using? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-11 09:21 -0400
                              Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-12 03:16 +0000
            Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-03-08 06:04 +0100
            Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-08 19:48 +1300
              Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-03-08 10:57 +0100
                Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-08 23:29 +1300
                  Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-03-08 11:36 +0100
                    Re: What usenet client are you using? christian150205@ghanart.org (Christian) - 2015-03-08 12:18 +0100
              Re: What usenet client are you using? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-09 10:48 +1300
                Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-09 14:33 +1300
    Re: What usenet client are you using? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-02-21 17:16 +0000
      Re: What usenet client are you using? Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2015-02-22 13:20 +0000
      Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 06:13 +1300
    Re: What usenet client are you using? Bill F <anon@anonumost.org> - 2015-02-22 17:56 -0500
      Re: What usenet client are you using? Me, myself and I <baiheli.pip.li@xs4all.nl> - 2015-02-23 00:05 +0100
        Re: What usenet client are you using? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-02-22 21:20 -0800
          Re: What usenet client are you using? Leonard Oglesby <email@domain.com> - 2015-02-22 21:48 -0800
      Re: What usenet client are you using? TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2015-02-22 17:07 -0600
        Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-22 23:48 -0800
          Re: What usenet client are you using? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-23 11:49 -0500
            Re: What usenet client are you using? John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2015-02-25 23:01 -0500
      Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-23 15:45 +0000
        Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 06:13 +1300
          Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-24 03:25 +0000
            Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 22:03 +1300
              Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-24 12:06 +0100
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-24 15:48 +0000
                  Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-24 08:29 -0800
                  Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-24 18:08 +0100
                    Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-25 16:09 +0000
                      Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-25 17:27 +0100
                  Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-25 11:58 +1300
                    Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-25 16:04 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-24 15:40 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-02-24 16:15 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-25 10:15 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-25 12:01 +0100
                  Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-26 03:19 +1300
                    Re: What usenet client are you using? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-25 14:31 +0000
                      Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-25 17:34 +0000
                        Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-26 08:55 +1300
                          Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-25 21:16 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-02-27 03:39 +0000
                  Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-02-27 05:10 +0000
                    Re: What usenet client are you using? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-27 09:29 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-25 07:40 -0500
              Re: What usenet client are you using? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-02-26 05:12 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-26 08:39 +0100
                  Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 08:40 -0500
                    Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 14:06 +0000
                      Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 10:22 -0500
                        Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 15:32 +0000
                          Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-26 17:30 +0000
                            Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 13:21 -0500
                            Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 18:45 +0000
                          Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 13:20 -0500
                    Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-26 15:19 +0100
                    Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-26 15:28 +0000
                      Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 15:39 +0000
                        Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-26 17:25 +0000
                          Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 18:32 +0000
                            Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-26 23:17 +0000
                              Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 23:48 +0000
                  Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 14:04 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 14:03 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-26 15:32 +0000
                  Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 13:19 -0500
                    Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-27 03:15 +0000

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#70203

FromHuge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date2015-02-25 14:31 +0000
Message-ID<cl64mhFcvcnU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#70201
On 2015-02-25, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> android <here@there.was> wrote:
>
>> In article <cl5llvF92rkU4@mid.individual.net>,
>>  Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> > xpn from Macports runs just fine on Mavericks under the Quartz X11 server. I
>> > just installed and tried it.
>> > 
>> > It's written in Python, so I imagine easy enough to tinker with if you want
>> > more features.
>> 
>> Thanks! Gonna try... I've Pan installed via Macports as a fallback:
>> sudo port -v install pan2
>
> Pan seemed ok when I last tried it years ago. No reason to switch from
> MacSOUP, but nice to have when I was bumming around in *nix OSes, and to
> know I'd have as a fallback option for OSX. Though I reckon if Stefan
> ever ended support for MacSOUP and bugginess resulted, I'd probably
> first switch to command line tin, just because I'm familiar with it and
> enjoy it's design.

FWIW, I use slrn in a Terminal window, because that's what I use on my
main desktop Linux machine and it means I can share config & Score files.


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Today is Sweetmorn, the 56th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem.  If you have a problem with my attitude,
                    that's your problem.

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#70209

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-02-25 17:34 +0000
Message-ID<cl6fdiFgucaU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#70203
On 2015-02-25, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2015-02-25, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
>> android <here@there.was> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <cl5llvF92rkU4@mid.individual.net>,
>>>  Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > xpn from Macports runs just fine on Mavericks under the Quartz X11 server. I
>>> > just installed and tried it.
>>> > 
>>> > It's written in Python, so I imagine easy enough to tinker with if you want
>>> > more features.
>>> 
>>> Thanks! Gonna try... I've Pan installed via Macports as a fallback:
>>> sudo port -v install pan2
>>
>> Pan seemed ok when I last tried it years ago. No reason to switch from
>> MacSOUP, but nice to have when I was bumming around in *nix OSes, and to
>> know I'd have as a fallback option for OSX. Though I reckon if Stefan
>> ever ended support for MacSOUP and bugginess resulted, I'd probably
>> first switch to command line tin, just because I'm familiar with it and
>> enjoy it's design.
>
> FWIW, I use slrn in a Terminal window, because that's what I use on my
> main desktop Linux machine and it means I can share config & Score files.

I use slrn as well, and love it. : )

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#70215

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2015-02-26 08:55 +1300
Message-ID<1m0fzwo.1soxu3y15uo5woN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#70209
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-02-25, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> > On 2015-02-25, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> >> android <here@there.was> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In article <cl5llvF92rkU4@mid.individual.net>,
> >>>  Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> > xpn from Macports runs just fine on Mavericks under the Quartz X11
> >>> > server. I just installed and tried it.
> >>> > 
> >>> > It's written in Python, so I imagine easy enough to tinker with if
> >>> > you want more features.
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks! Gonna try... I've Pan installed via Macports as a fallback:
> >>> sudo port -v install pan2
> >>
> >> Pan seemed ok when I last tried it years ago. No reason to switch from
> >> MacSOUP, but nice to have when I was bumming around in *nix OSes, and to
> >> know I'd have as a fallback option for OSX. Though I reckon if Stefan
> >> ever ended support for MacSOUP and bugginess resulted, I'd probably
> >> first switch to command line tin, just because I'm familiar with it and
> >> enjoy it's design.
> >
> > FWIW, I use slrn in a Terminal window, because that's what I use on my
> > main desktop Linux machine and it means I can share config & Score files.
> 
> I use slrn as well, and love it. : )

Before I got an iOS device and bought NewsTap I used to like a command
line client like tin, because I could easily connect to my home Mac from
elsewhere and run tin over SSH, with all my preferences. NewsTap may be
a bit lacking, but since getting it I've not felt the need to 'phone
home'. Besides, with no syncing between MacSOUP and tin or NewsTap, it's
not like I save myself any trouble. That would be one reason to switch
completely to tin - I could run it via SSH with all my prefs, history,
and saved messages back home, from a terminal app on an iOS device or
desktop computer.

Still, for now I enjoy MacSOUP too much, and I don't travel enough to
make that worth my while.

I realise of course, I can VPN back home and use graphical clients on my
home Mac. But since I'm usually just on someone else's computer, or a
small screen iOS device, I find that is rarely a suitable option. Plus
internet here outside cities can still be really crappy.

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#70217

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-02-25 21:16 +0000
Message-ID<cl6sebFdr3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#70215
On 2015-02-25, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> I use slrn as well, and love it. : )
>
> Before I got an iOS device and bought NewsTap I used to like a command
> line client like tin, because I could easily connect to my home Mac from
> elsewhere and run tin over SSH, with all my preferences. NewsTap may be
> a bit lacking, but since getting it I've not felt the need to 'phone
> home'. Besides, with no syncing between MacSOUP and tin or NewsTap, it's
> not like I save myself any trouble. That would be one reason to switch
> completely to tin - I could run it via SSH with all my prefs, history,
> and saved messages back home, from a terminal app on an iOS device or
> desktop computer.

That's exactly why I prefer slrn. I used to use MT-NewsWatcher's "Shared
newsrc" feature to share my newsrc file via FTP, which allowed me to run
MT-NW on any machine on my LAN, or even outside of my LAN, to read news
with all read counts and so on synchronized. Now that I can't use MT-NW,
I use slrn, which only requires an SSH connection in a terminal window,
which I am very comfortable with and usually have open anyway. As a
bonus, all of my score settings and editor settings are also now shared
among any machine I use to access slrn. I can even use a WYSIWYG editor
like TextWrangler to write posts if I like, complete with automatic
correction, spell checking, and so on (though I prefer vim). It
certainly ain't for everyone, but for someone like me who is at home on
the command line, it's great. : )

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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#70271

Fromtmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com>
Date2015-02-27 03:39 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmevpo2.1nmm.tmo1138@davidjr-macpro.local>
In reply to#70192
On 2015-02-25, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> xpn from Macports runs just fine on Mavericks under the Quartz X11 server. I
> just installed and tried it.
>
> It's written in Python, so I imagine easy enough to tinker with if you want
> more features.
>

I use Homebrew, so it makes mixing with Macports kind of a pain in the arse.
I'll keep that in mind tho.


-- 
There are three rules for writing a novel.  Unfortunately, no one knows
what they are.
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#70276

Fromtmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org>
Date2015-02-27 05:10 +0000
Message-ID<mcou7p$hk0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70271
tmo1138 wrote:

> On 2015-02-25, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> xpn from Macports runs just fine on Mavericks under the Quartz X11 server. I
>> just installed and tried it.
>>
>> It's written in Python, so I imagine easy enough to tinker with if you want
>> more features.
>>
>
> I use Homebrew, so it makes mixing with Macports kind of a pain in the arse.
> I'll keep that in mind tho.
>
>

Actually.. I have to take that back..  After installing the bottles for GTK and the Homebrew-python 
I can run it from the source project..  nice... :)

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#70279

FromHuge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date2015-02-27 09:29 +0000
Message-ID<clarnrFkatU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#70276
On 2015-02-27, tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> wrote:
> tmo1138 wrote:
>
>> On 2015-02-25, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>> xpn from Macports runs just fine on Mavericks under the Quartz X11 server. I
>>> just installed and tried it.
>>>
>>> It's written in Python, so I imagine easy enough to tinker with if you want
>>> more features.
>>>
>>
>> I use Homebrew, so it makes mixing with Macports kind of a pain in the arse.
>> I'll keep that in mind tho.
>>
>>
>
> Actually.. I have to take that back..  After installing the bottles for GTK and the Homebrew-python 
> I can run it from the source project..  nice... :)

Hurrah!


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Today is Pungenday, the 58th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem.  If you have a problem with my attitude,
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#70196

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2015-02-25 07:40 -0500
Message-ID<jsWdnUdwX7lMX3DJnZ2dnUU7-V2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#70168
On 2015.02.24 04:03 , Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:

> You seem to want a modern commercial Mac Usenet client without concern
> for the reality of the market. I've said it before and I'll say it
> again: you set yourself up for inevitable failure, and then couldn't
> seem to handle it when the reality both hit home and was pointed out to
> you.

!

-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
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#70230

Fromsctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net>
Date2015-02-26 05:12 +0000
Message-ID<mcma02$15o$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70168
On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 22:03:24 +1300, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:

>
> Or one can simply accept that Mac Usenet clients do not have a large
> enough market to justify more than current development efforts and
> developer remuneration. MacSOUP - for example - continues to be
> maintained in bugfix mode (likewise a few others) for which I'm very
> thankful (you're awesome Stefan!), and there are free open source GUI
> and CL clients.
> 
> You seem to want a modern commercial Mac Usenet client without concern
> for the reality of the market. I've said it before and I'll say it
> again: you set yourself up for inevitable failure, and then couldn't
> seem to handle it when the reality both hit home and was pointed out to
> you.

Can't Linux NNTP clients work on OSX?  I use Pan and I know of others.

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#70233

Fromandroid <here@there.was>
Date2015-02-26 08:39 +0100
Message-ID<cl80tdF8n7sU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#70230
sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> Wrote in message:
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 22:03:24 +1300, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> 
>>
>> Or one can simply accept that Mac Usenet clients do not have a large
>> enough market to justify more than current development efforts and
>> developer remuneration. MacSOUP - for example - continues to be
>> maintained in bugfix mode (likewise a few others) for which I'm very
>> thankful (you're awesome Stefan!), and there are free open source GUI
>> and CL clients.
>> 
>> You seem to want a modern commercial Mac Usenet client without concern
>> for the reality of the market. I've said it before and I'll say it
>> again: you set yourself up for inevitable failure, and then couldn't
>> seem to handle it when the reality both hit home and was pointed out to
>> you.
> 
> Can't Linux NNTP clients work on OSX?  I use Pan and I know of others.
> 
You have to get them to compile. Pan, slrn and tin can be
 installed via Macports. That's not for everybody but Thunderbird
 is a free alternative to Unison.
-- 
Bats can't tell us apart!


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/

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#70238

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-02-26 08:40 -0500
Message-ID<54ef226b$0$46561$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#70233
In article <cl80tdF8n7sU1@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was> 
wrote:

> You have to get them to compile. Pan, slrn and tin can be
>  installed via Macports. That's not for everybody but Thunderbird
>  is a free alternative to Unison.

slrn will compile quickly and cleanly on Yosemite, BUT you will need to 
compile and install s-lang first (with the out-of-the-cloud OS X 
developer tools, you don't need MacBrewfinks for this).

http://www.jedsoft.org/slang/
http://slrn.sourceforge.net/

You can get a pretty good news setup with slrn, full-screen terminal.

I haven't tried tin for years, and it's not maintained on a regular 
basis. I used Gnus for a while, and there's a pretty stable OS X binary 
of emacs available.

FWIW, you should probably build gettext and glib. I've never understood 
gettext. I don't need the Serbo-kanji alphabet.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#70241

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-02-26 14:06 +0000
Message-ID<cl8nj0Fe6amU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#70238
On 2015-02-26, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <cl80tdF8n7sU1@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was> 
> wrote:
>
>> You have to get them to compile. Pan, slrn and tin can be
>>  installed via Macports. That's not for everybody but Thunderbird
>>  is a free alternative to Unison.
>
> slrn will compile quickly and cleanly on Yosemite, BUT you will need to 
> compile and install s-lang first

Same as you would on any other platform, yes.

> (with the out-of-the-cloud OS X 
> developer tools, you don't need MacBrewfinks for this).
>
> http://www.jedsoft.org/slang/
> http://slrn.sourceforge.net/
>
> You can get a pretty good news setup with slrn, full-screen terminal.

It's all I use for NNTP. Works great.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#70245

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-02-26 10:22 -0500
Message-ID<54ef3a52$0$64273$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#70241
In article <cl8nj0Fe6amU3@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> 
> Same as you would on any other platform, yes.

Well, yes, but (aside from bloated co-systems like MacFartbrewports) OS 
X doesn't have a "package manager" that will download (and build 
possibly, depending on the distribution) the dependencies for you. So 
one pretty much has to run the configure script and see what it says 
about what you don't have.

Gnu software is a bit stupid, even though it works and you need it. You 
want to build pkg-config, but it needs glib. So you want to build glib, 
and it says it can't find gettext. So you try to build gettext and it 
says it can't find glib. Like that. (Gettext has a built-in glib you can 
use to "bootstrap" the thing but it's not obvious without poring over 
the options).
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#70248

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-02-26 15:32 +0000
Message-ID<cl8skaFe6amU9@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#70245
On 2015-02-26, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <cl8nj0Fe6amU3@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> Same as you would on any other platform, yes.
>
> Well, yes, but (aside from bloated co-systems like MacFartbrewports) OS 
> X doesn't have a "package manager" that will download (and build 
> possibly, depending on the distribution) the dependencies for you. So 
> one pretty much has to run the configure script and see what it says 
> about what you don't have.

Yes, and slang is the only dependency you need to worry about for slrn.
You configure, make and install two packages: slang, then slrn, and you
are done.

> Gnu software is a bit stupid, even though it works and you need it. You 
> want to build pkg-config, but it needs glib. So you want to build glib, 
> and it says it can't find gettext. So you try to build gettext and it 
> says it can't find glib. Like that. (Gettext has a built-in glib you can 
> use to "bootstrap" the thing but it's not obvious without poring over 
> the options).

None of that is required for slrn.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#70256

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-02-26 17:30 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmeum3q.27j6.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#70248
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
> On 2015-02-26, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <cl8nj0Fe6amU3@mid.individual.net>,
>>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Same as you would on any other platform, yes.
>>
>> Well, yes, but (aside from bloated co-systems like MacFartbrewports) OS 
>> X doesn't have a "package manager" that will download (and build 
>> possibly, depending on the distribution) the dependencies for you. So 
>> one pretty much has to run the configure script and see what it says 
>> about what you don't have.

> Yes, and slang is the only dependency you need to worry about for slrn.
> You configure, make and install two packages: slang, then slrn, and you
> are done.

I think you need pcre, libiconv, and ... that might be all. Of course,
you probably already have those.

-- 
http://2blog.kreme.com
THEY ARE LAUGHING AT ME, NOT WITH ME Bart chalkboard Ep. 7G12

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#70259

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-02-26 13:21 -0500
Message-ID<54ef641a$0$44198$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#70256
In article <slrnmeum3q.27j6.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> I think you need pcre, libiconv, and ... that might be all. Of course,
> you probably already have those.

Yeah, those were all happily found in the base system.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#70262

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-02-26 18:45 +0000
Message-ID<cl97u9FiodtU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#70256
On 2015-02-26, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
>> On 2015-02-26, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In article <cl8nj0Fe6amU3@mid.individual.net>,
>>>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Same as you would on any other platform, yes.
>>>
>>> Well, yes, but (aside from bloated co-systems like MacFartbrewports) OS 
>>> X doesn't have a "package manager" that will download (and build 
>>> possibly, depending on the distribution) the dependencies for you. So 
>>> one pretty much has to run the configure script and see what it says 
>>> about what you don't have.
>
>> Yes, and slang is the only dependency you need to worry about for slrn.
>> You configure, make and install two packages: slang, then slrn, and you
>> are done.
>
> I think you need pcre, libiconv, and ... that might be all. Of course,
> you probably already have those.

*sigh* I'm talking about packages that are not available on the base
system install. Sheesh.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#70258

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-02-26 13:20 -0500
Message-ID<54ef63f6$0$27441$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#70248
In article <cl8skaFe6amU9@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> None of that is required for slrn.

No, but slrn _will_ look for gettext and use it if it finds it.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#70243

Fromandroid <here@there.was>
Date2015-02-26 15:19 +0100
Message-ID<cl8oanFepefU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#70238
In article <54ef226b$0$46561$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com>,
 Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <cl80tdF8n7sU1@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was> 
> wrote:
> 
> > You have to get them to compile. Pan, slrn and tin can be
> >  installed via Macports. That's not for everybody but Thunderbird
> >  is a free alternative to Unison.
> 
> slrn will compile quickly and cleanly on Yosemite, BUT you will need to 
> compile and install s-lang first (with the out-of-the-cloud OS X 
> developer tools, you don't need MacBrewfinks for this).
> 
> http://www.jedsoft.org/slang/
> http://slrn.sourceforge.net/
> 
> You can get a pretty good news setup with slrn, full-screen terminal.
> 
> I haven't tried tin for years, and it's not maintained on a regular 
> basis. I used Gnus for a while, and there's a pretty stable OS X binary 
> of emacs available.
> 
> FWIW, you should probably build gettext and glib. I've never understood 
> gettext. I don't need the Serbo-kanji alphabet.

Macports build all the dependencies for the user before the port itself. 
It compiles the ports locally like Gentoo Linux, I think... It's not 
downloading precompiled packages like Debian or Red Hat Linux.
-- 
teleportation kills
http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography

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#70247

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-02-26 15:28 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmeueub.2376.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#70238
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> was all, like:

[snip]

Quick unrelated question, is it possible to get the command-line
developer tools installed and working properly WITHOUT installing the
many GB of XCode? I don't care on my main system, but on my laptop Xcode
represents 10% of my SSD.

-- 
http://2blog.kreme.com
Why live in the world when you can live in your head?

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