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| Started by | John Thornley <thornjohn@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2015-02-17 21:21 +0000 |
| Last post | 2015-02-27 03:15 +0000 |
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What usenet client are you using? John Thornley <thornjohn@gmail.com> - 2015-02-17 21:21 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-17 17:36 -0500
Re: What usenet client are you using? heron stone <heron@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-17 15:15 -0800
Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-17 16:45 -0800
Re: What usenet client are you using? erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-02-19 12:48 -0600
Re: What usenet client are you using? Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2015-02-19 19:38 -0800
Re: What usenet client are you using? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2015-02-18 22:50 +0100
Re: What usenet client are you using? heron stone <heron@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-17 15:16 -0800
Re: What usenet client are you using? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-18 19:05 -0800
Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-02-18 02:40 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-17 20:25 -0800
Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-02-18 04:32 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? John <email@domain.com> - 2015-02-18 00:18 -0600
Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-17 23:05 -0800
Re: What usenet client are you using? Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2015-02-18 12:47 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-18 17:53 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? unfrostedpoptart <david@therogoffs.com> - 2015-02-18 11:12 -0800
Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-18 19:16 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-02-18 16:43 -0800
Re: What usenet client are you using? John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-19 04:46 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Moi <moi@moimoimoi.net> - 2015-02-18 21:31 -0800
Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 06:13 +1300
Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-23 17:28 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-19 11:34 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Bob E. <bespoke@invalid.tv> - 2015-02-18 21:34 -0800
Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-02-19 06:04 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 06:04 +1300
Re: What usenet client are you using? Bob E. <bespoke@invalid.tv> - 2015-03-07 20:37 -0800
Re: What usenet client are you using? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-08 17:49 +1300
Re: What usenet client are you using? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-08 09:35 -0500
Re: What usenet client are you using? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-08 09:39 -0500
Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-08 18:31 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-08 19:22 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-08 19:39 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-09 08:56 +1300
Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-08 19:58 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-03-08 16:42 -0400
Re: What usenet client are you using? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-09 13:31 +1300
Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-09 14:17 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-10 00:18 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-10 21:50 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-11 04:46 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-11 09:21 -0400
Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-12 03:16 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-03-08 06:04 +0100
Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-08 19:48 +1300
Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-03-08 10:57 +0100
Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-08 23:29 +1300
Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-03-08 11:36 +0100
Re: What usenet client are you using? christian150205@ghanart.org (Christian) - 2015-03-08 12:18 +0100
Re: What usenet client are you using? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-09 10:48 +1300
Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-09 14:33 +1300
Re: What usenet client are you using? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-02-21 17:16 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2015-02-22 13:20 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 06:13 +1300
Re: What usenet client are you using? Bill F <anon@anonumost.org> - 2015-02-22 17:56 -0500
Re: What usenet client are you using? Me, myself and I <baiheli.pip.li@xs4all.nl> - 2015-02-23 00:05 +0100
Re: What usenet client are you using? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-02-22 21:20 -0800
Re: What usenet client are you using? Leonard Oglesby <email@domain.com> - 2015-02-22 21:48 -0800
Re: What usenet client are you using? TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2015-02-22 17:07 -0600
Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-22 23:48 -0800
Re: What usenet client are you using? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-23 11:49 -0500
Re: What usenet client are you using? John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2015-02-25 23:01 -0500
Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-23 15:45 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 06:13 +1300
Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-24 03:25 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 22:03 +1300
Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-24 12:06 +0100
Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-24 15:48 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-24 08:29 -0800
Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-24 18:08 +0100
Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-25 16:09 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-25 17:27 +0100
Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-25 11:58 +1300
Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-25 16:04 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-24 15:40 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-02-24 16:15 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-25 10:15 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-25 12:01 +0100
Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-26 03:19 +1300
Re: What usenet client are you using? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-25 14:31 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-25 17:34 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-26 08:55 +1300
Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-25 21:16 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-02-27 03:39 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-02-27 05:10 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-27 09:29 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-25 07:40 -0500
Re: What usenet client are you using? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-02-26 05:12 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-26 08:39 +0100
Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 08:40 -0500
Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 14:06 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 10:22 -0500
Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 15:32 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-26 17:30 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 13:21 -0500
Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 18:45 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 13:20 -0500
Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-26 15:19 +0100
Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-26 15:28 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 15:39 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-26 17:25 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 18:32 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-26 23:17 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 23:48 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 14:04 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 14:03 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-26 15:32 +0000
Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 13:19 -0500
Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-27 03:15 +0000
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| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-02-25 14:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cl64mhFcvcnU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70201 |
On 2015-02-25, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> android <here@there.was> wrote:
>
>> In article <cl5llvF92rkU4@mid.individual.net>,
>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > xpn from Macports runs just fine on Mavericks under the Quartz X11 server. I
>> > just installed and tried it.
>> >
>> > It's written in Python, so I imagine easy enough to tinker with if you want
>> > more features.
>>
>> Thanks! Gonna try... I've Pan installed via Macports as a fallback:
>> sudo port -v install pan2
>
> Pan seemed ok when I last tried it years ago. No reason to switch from
> MacSOUP, but nice to have when I was bumming around in *nix OSes, and to
> know I'd have as a fallback option for OSX. Though I reckon if Stefan
> ever ended support for MacSOUP and bugginess resulted, I'd probably
> first switch to command line tin, just because I'm familiar with it and
> enjoy it's design.
FWIW, I use slrn in a Terminal window, because that's what I use on my
main desktop Linux machine and it means I can share config & Score files.
--
Today is Sweetmorn, the 56th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem. If you have a problem with my attitude,
that's your problem.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-02-25 17:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cl6fdiFgucaU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70203 |
On 2015-02-25, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > On 2015-02-25, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: >> android <here@there.was> wrote: >> >>> In article <cl5llvF92rkU4@mid.individual.net>, >>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: >>> >>> > xpn from Macports runs just fine on Mavericks under the Quartz X11 server. I >>> > just installed and tried it. >>> > >>> > It's written in Python, so I imagine easy enough to tinker with if you want >>> > more features. >>> >>> Thanks! Gonna try... I've Pan installed via Macports as a fallback: >>> sudo port -v install pan2 >> >> Pan seemed ok when I last tried it years ago. No reason to switch from >> MacSOUP, but nice to have when I was bumming around in *nix OSes, and to >> know I'd have as a fallback option for OSX. Though I reckon if Stefan >> ever ended support for MacSOUP and bugginess resulted, I'd probably >> first switch to command line tin, just because I'm familiar with it and >> enjoy it's design. > > FWIW, I use slrn in a Terminal window, because that's what I use on my > main desktop Linux machine and it means I can share config & Score files. I use slrn as well, and love it. : ) -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2015-02-26 08:55 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <1m0fzwo.1soxu3y15uo5woN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #70209 |
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2015-02-25, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > > On 2015-02-25, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > >> android <here@there.was> wrote: > >> > >>> In article <cl5llvF92rkU4@mid.individual.net>, > >>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > >>> > >>> > xpn from Macports runs just fine on Mavericks under the Quartz X11 > >>> > server. I just installed and tried it. > >>> > > >>> > It's written in Python, so I imagine easy enough to tinker with if > >>> > you want more features. > >>> > >>> Thanks! Gonna try... I've Pan installed via Macports as a fallback: > >>> sudo port -v install pan2 > >> > >> Pan seemed ok when I last tried it years ago. No reason to switch from > >> MacSOUP, but nice to have when I was bumming around in *nix OSes, and to > >> know I'd have as a fallback option for OSX. Though I reckon if Stefan > >> ever ended support for MacSOUP and bugginess resulted, I'd probably > >> first switch to command line tin, just because I'm familiar with it and > >> enjoy it's design. > > > > FWIW, I use slrn in a Terminal window, because that's what I use on my > > main desktop Linux machine and it means I can share config & Score files. > > I use slrn as well, and love it. : ) Before I got an iOS device and bought NewsTap I used to like a command line client like tin, because I could easily connect to my home Mac from elsewhere and run tin over SSH, with all my preferences. NewsTap may be a bit lacking, but since getting it I've not felt the need to 'phone home'. Besides, with no syncing between MacSOUP and tin or NewsTap, it's not like I save myself any trouble. That would be one reason to switch completely to tin - I could run it via SSH with all my prefs, history, and saved messages back home, from a terminal app on an iOS device or desktop computer. Still, for now I enjoy MacSOUP too much, and I don't travel enough to make that worth my while. I realise of course, I can VPN back home and use graphical clients on my home Mac. But since I'm usually just on someone else's computer, or a small screen iOS device, I find that is rarely a suitable option. Plus internet here outside cities can still be really crappy. -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-02-25 21:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cl6sebFdr3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70215 |
On 2015-02-25, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> I use slrn as well, and love it. : ) > > Before I got an iOS device and bought NewsTap I used to like a command > line client like tin, because I could easily connect to my home Mac from > elsewhere and run tin over SSH, with all my preferences. NewsTap may be > a bit lacking, but since getting it I've not felt the need to 'phone > home'. Besides, with no syncing between MacSOUP and tin or NewsTap, it's > not like I save myself any trouble. That would be one reason to switch > completely to tin - I could run it via SSH with all my prefs, history, > and saved messages back home, from a terminal app on an iOS device or > desktop computer. That's exactly why I prefer slrn. I used to use MT-NewsWatcher's "Shared newsrc" feature to share my newsrc file via FTP, which allowed me to run MT-NW on any machine on my LAN, or even outside of my LAN, to read news with all read counts and so on synchronized. Now that I can't use MT-NW, I use slrn, which only requires an SSH connection in a terminal window, which I am very comfortable with and usually have open anyway. As a bonus, all of my score settings and editor settings are also now shared among any machine I use to access slrn. I can even use a WYSIWYG editor like TextWrangler to write posts if I like, complete with automatic correction, spell checking, and so on (though I prefer vim). It certainly ain't for everyone, but for someone like me who is at home on the command line, it's great. : ) -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> |
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| Date | 2015-02-27 03:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmevpo2.1nmm.tmo1138@davidjr-macpro.local> |
| In reply to | #70192 |
On 2015-02-25, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > xpn from Macports runs just fine on Mavericks under the Quartz X11 server. I > just installed and tried it. > > It's written in Python, so I imagine easy enough to tinker with if you want > more features. > I use Homebrew, so it makes mixing with Macports kind of a pain in the arse. I'll keep that in mind tho. -- There are three rules for writing a novel. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are. -- Somerset Maugham
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| From | tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> |
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| Date | 2015-02-27 05:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mcou7p$hk0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #70271 |
tmo1138 wrote: > On 2015-02-25, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: >> xpn from Macports runs just fine on Mavericks under the Quartz X11 server. I >> just installed and tried it. >> >> It's written in Python, so I imagine easy enough to tinker with if you want >> more features. >> > > I use Homebrew, so it makes mixing with Macports kind of a pain in the arse. > I'll keep that in mind tho. > > Actually.. I have to take that back.. After installing the bottles for GTK and the Homebrew-python I can run it from the source project.. nice... :)
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| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-02-27 09:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <clarnrFkatU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70276 |
On 2015-02-27, tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> wrote:
> tmo1138 wrote:
>
>> On 2015-02-25, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>> xpn from Macports runs just fine on Mavericks under the Quartz X11 server. I
>>> just installed and tried it.
>>>
>>> It's written in Python, so I imagine easy enough to tinker with if you want
>>> more features.
>>>
>>
>> I use Homebrew, so it makes mixing with Macports kind of a pain in the arse.
>> I'll keep that in mind tho.
>>
>>
>
> Actually.. I have to take that back.. After installing the bottles for GTK and the Homebrew-python
> I can run it from the source project.. nice... :)
Hurrah!
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-02-25 07:40 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <jsWdnUdwX7lMX3DJnZ2dnUU7-V2dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #70168 |
On 2015.02.24 04:03 , Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> You seem to want a modern commercial Mac Usenet client without concern
> for the reality of the market. I've said it before and I'll say it
> again: you set yourself up for inevitable failure, and then couldn't
> seem to handle it when the reality both hit home and was pointed out to
> you.
!
--
"Your net worth to the world is usually
determined by what remains after your
bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
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| From | sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2015-02-26 05:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mcma02$15o$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #70168 |
On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 22:03:24 +1300, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote: > > Or one can simply accept that Mac Usenet clients do not have a large > enough market to justify more than current development efforts and > developer remuneration. MacSOUP - for example - continues to be > maintained in bugfix mode (likewise a few others) for which I'm very > thankful (you're awesome Stefan!), and there are free open source GUI > and CL clients. > > You seem to want a modern commercial Mac Usenet client without concern > for the reality of the market. I've said it before and I'll say it > again: you set yourself up for inevitable failure, and then couldn't > seem to handle it when the reality both hit home and was pointed out to > you. Can't Linux NNTP clients work on OSX? I use Pan and I know of others.
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| From | android <here@there.was> |
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| Date | 2015-02-26 08:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <cl80tdF8n7sU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70230 |
sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> Wrote in message: > On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 22:03:24 +1300, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote: > >> >> Or one can simply accept that Mac Usenet clients do not have a large >> enough market to justify more than current development efforts and >> developer remuneration. MacSOUP - for example - continues to be >> maintained in bugfix mode (likewise a few others) for which I'm very >> thankful (you're awesome Stefan!), and there are free open source GUI >> and CL clients. >> >> You seem to want a modern commercial Mac Usenet client without concern >> for the reality of the market. I've said it before and I'll say it >> again: you set yourself up for inevitable failure, and then couldn't >> seem to handle it when the reality both hit home and was pointed out to >> you. > > Can't Linux NNTP clients work on OSX? I use Pan and I know of others. > You have to get them to compile. Pan, slrn and tin can be installed via Macports. That's not for everybody but Thunderbird is a free alternative to Unison. -- Bats can't tell us apart! ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-02-26 08:40 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54ef226b$0$46561$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #70233 |
In article <cl80tdF8n7sU1@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was> wrote: > You have to get them to compile. Pan, slrn and tin can be > installed via Macports. That's not for everybody but Thunderbird > is a free alternative to Unison. slrn will compile quickly and cleanly on Yosemite, BUT you will need to compile and install s-lang first (with the out-of-the-cloud OS X developer tools, you don't need MacBrewfinks for this). http://www.jedsoft.org/slang/ http://slrn.sourceforge.net/ You can get a pretty good news setup with slrn, full-screen terminal. I haven't tried tin for years, and it's not maintained on a regular basis. I used Gnus for a while, and there's a pretty stable OS X binary of emacs available. FWIW, you should probably build gettext and glib. I've never understood gettext. I don't need the Serbo-kanji alphabet. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-02-26 14:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cl8nj0Fe6amU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70238 |
On 2015-02-26, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <cl80tdF8n7sU1@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was> > wrote: > >> You have to get them to compile. Pan, slrn and tin can be >> installed via Macports. That's not for everybody but Thunderbird >> is a free alternative to Unison. > > slrn will compile quickly and cleanly on Yosemite, BUT you will need to > compile and install s-lang first Same as you would on any other platform, yes. > (with the out-of-the-cloud OS X > developer tools, you don't need MacBrewfinks for this). > > http://www.jedsoft.org/slang/ > http://slrn.sourceforge.net/ > > You can get a pretty good news setup with slrn, full-screen terminal. It's all I use for NNTP. Works great. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-02-26 10:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54ef3a52$0$64273$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #70241 |
In article <cl8nj0Fe6amU3@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > Same as you would on any other platform, yes. Well, yes, but (aside from bloated co-systems like MacFartbrewports) OS X doesn't have a "package manager" that will download (and build possibly, depending on the distribution) the dependencies for you. So one pretty much has to run the configure script and see what it says about what you don't have. Gnu software is a bit stupid, even though it works and you need it. You want to build pkg-config, but it needs glib. So you want to build glib, and it says it can't find gettext. So you try to build gettext and it says it can't find glib. Like that. (Gettext has a built-in glib you can use to "bootstrap" the thing but it's not obvious without poring over the options). -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-02-26 15:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cl8skaFe6amU9@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70245 |
On 2015-02-26, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <cl8nj0Fe6amU3@mid.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> Same as you would on any other platform, yes. > > Well, yes, but (aside from bloated co-systems like MacFartbrewports) OS > X doesn't have a "package manager" that will download (and build > possibly, depending on the distribution) the dependencies for you. So > one pretty much has to run the configure script and see what it says > about what you don't have. Yes, and slang is the only dependency you need to worry about for slrn. You configure, make and install two packages: slang, then slrn, and you are done. > Gnu software is a bit stupid, even though it works and you need it. You > want to build pkg-config, but it needs glib. So you want to build glib, > and it says it can't find gettext. So you try to build gettext and it > says it can't find glib. Like that. (Gettext has a built-in glib you can > use to "bootstrap" the thing but it's not obvious without poring over > the options). None of that is required for slrn. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-02-26 17:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmeum3q.27j6.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #70248 |
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like: > On 2015-02-26, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: >> In article <cl8nj0Fe6amU3@mid.individual.net>, >> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >>> Same as you would on any other platform, yes. >> >> Well, yes, but (aside from bloated co-systems like MacFartbrewports) OS >> X doesn't have a "package manager" that will download (and build >> possibly, depending on the distribution) the dependencies for you. So >> one pretty much has to run the configure script and see what it says >> about what you don't have. > Yes, and slang is the only dependency you need to worry about for slrn. > You configure, make and install two packages: slang, then slrn, and you > are done. I think you need pcre, libiconv, and ... that might be all. Of course, you probably already have those. -- http://2blog.kreme.com THEY ARE LAUGHING AT ME, NOT WITH ME Bart chalkboard Ep. 7G12
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-02-26 13:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54ef641a$0$44198$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #70256 |
In article <slrnmeum3q.27j6.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > I think you need pcre, libiconv, and ... that might be all. Of course, > you probably already have those. Yeah, those were all happily found in the base system. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-02-26 18:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cl97u9FiodtU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70256 |
On 2015-02-26, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like: >> On 2015-02-26, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: >>> In article <cl8nj0Fe6amU3@mid.individual.net>, >>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Same as you would on any other platform, yes. >>> >>> Well, yes, but (aside from bloated co-systems like MacFartbrewports) OS >>> X doesn't have a "package manager" that will download (and build >>> possibly, depending on the distribution) the dependencies for you. So >>> one pretty much has to run the configure script and see what it says >>> about what you don't have. > >> Yes, and slang is the only dependency you need to worry about for slrn. >> You configure, make and install two packages: slang, then slrn, and you >> are done. > > I think you need pcre, libiconv, and ... that might be all. Of course, > you probably already have those. *sigh* I'm talking about packages that are not available on the base system install. Sheesh. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-02-26 13:20 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54ef63f6$0$27441$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #70248 |
In article <cl8skaFe6amU9@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > None of that is required for slrn. No, but slrn _will_ look for gettext and use it if it finds it. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
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| From | android <here@there.was> |
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| Date | 2015-02-26 15:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <cl8oanFepefU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70238 |
In article <54ef226b$0$46561$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <cl80tdF8n7sU1@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was> > wrote: > > > You have to get them to compile. Pan, slrn and tin can be > > installed via Macports. That's not for everybody but Thunderbird > > is a free alternative to Unison. > > slrn will compile quickly and cleanly on Yosemite, BUT you will need to > compile and install s-lang first (with the out-of-the-cloud OS X > developer tools, you don't need MacBrewfinks for this). > > http://www.jedsoft.org/slang/ > http://slrn.sourceforge.net/ > > You can get a pretty good news setup with slrn, full-screen terminal. > > I haven't tried tin for years, and it's not maintained on a regular > basis. I used Gnus for a while, and there's a pretty stable OS X binary > of emacs available. > > FWIW, you should probably build gettext and glib. I've never understood > gettext. I don't need the Serbo-kanji alphabet. Macports build all the dependencies for the user before the port itself. It compiles the ports locally like Gentoo Linux, I think... It's not downloading precompiled packages like Debian or Red Hat Linux. -- teleportation kills http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-02-26 15:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmeueub.2376.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #70238 |
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> was all, like: [snip] Quick unrelated question, is it possible to get the command-line developer tools installed and working properly WITHOUT installing the many GB of XCode? I don't care on my main system, but on my laptop Xcode represents 10% of my SSD. -- http://2blog.kreme.com Why live in the world when you can live in your head?
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