Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]
Groups > comp.sys.mac.system > #68978 > unrolled thread
| Started by | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
|---|---|
| First post | 2015-01-25 20:46 -0500 |
| Last post | 2015-03-25 14:30 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 86 — 23 participants |
Back to article view | Back to comp.sys.mac.system
Linus rant on HFS+ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-25 20:46 -0500
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-26 02:00 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-26 12:30 -0500
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-26 17:40 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-26 17:45 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-26 17:47 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-01-27 20:52 -0800
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-01-27 21:11 -0800
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-28 15:01 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Joanna Shuttleworth <js@example.com> - 2015-01-29 08:14 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-29 15:17 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-27 22:39 -0800
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-28 14:59 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-01-28 12:21 -0500
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-28 17:32 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-25 21:13 -0500
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jerry Bishop <jerry.bishop@nowhere.nohow.com> - 2015-01-26 14:52 -0500
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-27 09:27 +1300
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-01-26 15:36 -0500
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-01-28 13:45 -0800
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-28 13:52 -0800
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-28 22:14 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-01-28 18:53 -0800
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-29 10:47 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-20 11:53 -0800
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-20 22:37 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-21 09:41 -0800
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-21 23:18 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-02-22 09:23 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2015-02-22 11:23 +0100
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-22 16:34 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-22 05:39 +0100
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-22 10:05 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-22 15:05 +0100
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-22 18:38 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-02-22 11:11 -0500
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-22 13:30 -0500
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-02-22 13:32 -0500
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-25 19:01 -0500
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-22 18:40 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-22 20:55 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Matt Simpson <usenet@news.jmatt.net> - 2015-02-25 14:59 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-25 12:33 -0500
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-03-25 08:01 -0400
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 14:11 -0700
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-25 17:16 -0400
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Wilbur Eleven <wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> - 2015-03-25 17:31 -0400
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-25 17:40 -0400
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-25 18:31 -0400
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-25 22:39 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-25 19:23 -0400
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-26 04:00 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 22:37 -0700
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-26 19:53 +1200
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2015-03-26 09:37 +0100
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-26 23:07 +1300
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-27 20:39 -0700
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-27 23:42 -0400
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2015-03-30 10:10 +0200
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 09:27 -0400
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 03:08 -0400
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-27 00:14 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-27 20:29 -0700
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 06:18 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 21:05 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-25 18:41 -0400
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 14:32 -0700
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-25 17:40 -0400
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 14:45 -0700
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-25 17:34 -0400
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 14:41 -0700
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-25 21:56 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-25 18:33 -0400
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 19:44 -0700
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-22 16:22 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-25 18:54 -0500
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-26 07:56 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 07:57 -0500
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-26 07:58 -0500
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-26 17:24 +0000
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 13:25 -0500
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-02 10:07 -0500
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-26 07:28 -0800
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-02 10:08 -0500
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-01-26 16:38 -0800
Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 14:30 -0700
Page 2 of 5 — ← Prev page 1 [2] 3 4 5 Next page →
| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-01-28 13:52 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <mablno$brq$1@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #69264 |
On 2015-01-28 21:45:56 +0000, Electric Comet said: > On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:36:47 -0500 > Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote: > > >> I'm trying to guess the percentage of Mac users who are bothered by >> this. I suspect it's somewhere near zero. My advice to Torvalds is "If > > I wonder how many. Eight. Including Torvalds himself, there are 8 people who are bothered by this. You can trust me on this... > >> you don't like the Mac OS, don't use it. You've got an OS named after > > I think he does use it. > >> you and it's got the GIMP and a bunch of great server software. Revel >> in that and ignore the moviemakers, the musicians, the artists." > > This is funny. > > > > > > >
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-01-28 22:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cit59rFcubvU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #69264 |
On 2015-01-28, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:36:47 -0500
> Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
>
>
>> I'm trying to guess the percentage of Mac users who are bothered by
>> this. I suspect it's somewhere near zero. My advice to Torvalds is "If
>
> I wonder how many.
>
>> you don't like the Mac OS, don't use it. You've got an OS named after
>
> I think he does use it.
No he doesn't. He runs Linux on a Macbook Air.
--
Today is Pungenday, the 28th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem. If you have a problem with my attitude,
that's your problem.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-01-28 18:53 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <mac7g1$tg9$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69266 |
On 28 Jan 2015 22:14:19 GMT Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > No he doesn't. He runs Linux on a Macbook Air. I read an article a while ago and he seemed to allude to using it. Something like "at some point everyone just gets tired of configuring their environment so why bother" not an exact quote and maybe I read too much into it but it sounded like he was saying I just use macosx because I don't want hassle with all the config Maybe a dual-boot or vm
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-01-29 10:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ciuhe8Fn5krU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #69298 |
On 2015-01-29, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> On 28 Jan 2015 22:14:19 GMT
> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>
>> No he doesn't. He runs Linux on a Macbook Air.
>
> I read an article a while ago and he seemed to allude to using it.
> Something like "at some point everyone just gets tired of configuring
> their environment so why bother" not an exact quote and maybe I
> read too much into it but it sounded like he was saying I just
> use macosx because I don't want hassle with all the config
>
> Maybe a dual-boot or vm
http://www.quora.com/What-Linux-distribution-does-Linus-Torvalds-use-on-his-MacBook-Air
That's a Linux desktop on his Air;
http://cdn.cultofmac.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/skitched-20120424-122922.jpg
And I agree with him about the Macbook Air;
http://www.cultofmac.com/162823/linux-creator-linus-torvalds-i-love-my-macbook-air/
Sufficiently so that I bought one. Although I am hovering on the threshold
between between keeping it on MacOS for the automatic updates & having
someone else do the support and ditching MacOS for Linux because I
prefer it.
--
Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 29th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem. If you have a problem with my attitude,
that's your problem.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-20 11:53 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <mc83jk$orj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69309 |
On 29 Jan 2015 10:47:36 GMT Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > Sufficiently so that I bought one. Although I am hovering on the > threshold between between keeping it on MacOS for the automatic > updates & having someone else do the support and ditching MacOS for > Linux because I prefer it. Are there firmware updates you would miss going to linux? Why not run macos in a vm
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-20 22:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ckpr9mF7mslU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70030 |
On 2015-02-20, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> On 29 Jan 2015 10:47:36 GMT
> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Sufficiently so that I bought one. Although I am hovering on the
>> threshold between between keeping it on MacOS for the automatic
>> updates & having someone else do the support and ditching MacOS for
>> Linux because I prefer it.
>
> Are there firmware updates you would miss going to linux?
Dunno.
> Why not run macos in a vm
The lack of physical install media (yes, I know I can create them) puts
me off.
--
Today is Sweetmorn, the 51st day of Chaos in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem. If you have a problem with my attitude,
that's your problem.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-21 09:41 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <mcag86$p7e$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #70037 |
On 20 Feb 2015 22:37:42 GMT Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > Dunno. seem to recall that firmware updates came via the software update mechanism but also recall that those can be downloaded by themselves but not sure if they can be applied inside a vm > The lack of physical install media (yes, I know I can create them) > puts me off. ok thought maybe there was some other reason that macos can't be run inside a vm
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-21 23:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cksi2oFt68jU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70061 |
On 2015-02-21, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> On 20 Feb 2015 22:37:42 GMT
> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Dunno.
>
> seem to recall that firmware updates came via the software update
> mechanism but also recall that those can be downloaded by themselves
> but not sure if they can be applied inside a vm
>
>> The lack of physical install media (yes, I know I can create them)
>> puts me off.
>
> ok thought maybe there was some other reason that macos can't be run
> inside a vm
Again, dunno. I am a newbie so far as Macs go.
--
Today is Boomtime, the 52nd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem. If you have a problem with my attitude,
that's your problem.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-22 09:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <220220150923558140%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #70076 |
In article <cksi2oFt68jU1@mid.individual.net>, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: >On 2015-02-21, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote: >> On 20 Feb 2015 22:37:42 GMT >> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: >> >>> Dunno. >> >> seem to recall that firmware updates came via the software update >> mechanism but also recall that those can be downloaded by themselves >> but not sure if they can be applied inside a vm >> >>> The lack of physical install media (yes, I know I can create them) >>> puts me off. >> >> ok thought maybe there was some other reason that macos can't be run >> inside a vm > >Again, dunno. I am a newbie so far as Macs go. Licensing issues, AIUI, preclude you from running earlier OS X versions in a VM unless they are the server version (such as Snow Leopard Server). Since later versions apparently are somehow server versions anyway, again AIUI that limitation doesn't apply to e.g. Yosemite. BICBW. -- HAL 9000: Dave. Put down those Windows disks. Dave. DAVE!
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-22 11:23 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <k9norb-tle2.ln1@news.chingola.ch> |
| In reply to | #70087 |
On 2015-02-22, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > In article <cksi2oFt68jU1@mid.individual.net>, Huge ><Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > >>On 2015-02-21, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote: >>> On 20 Feb 2015 22:37:42 GMT >>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> Dunno. >>> >>> seem to recall that firmware updates came via the software update >>> mechanism but also recall that those can be downloaded by themselves >>> but not sure if they can be applied inside a vm >>> >>>> The lack of physical install media (yes, I know I can create them) >>>> puts me off. >>> >>> ok thought maybe there was some other reason that macos can't be run >>> inside a vm >> >>Again, dunno. I am a newbie so far as Macs go. > > Licensing issues, AIUI, preclude you from running earlier OS X versions > in a VM unless they are the server version (such as Snow Leopard > Server). Since later versions apparently are somehow server versions > anyway, again AIUI that limitation doesn't apply to e.g. Yosemite. > BICBW. Yep. From IIRC Mountain Lion onwards the Server functionality comes as an app you can download rather than as a completely separate build of the OS. I've got Mountain Lion plus Server.app installed in a VM, and Yosemite too but without the server component. I looked up the licensing details at the time I did it and was happy that I was abiding by it. IIRC there's something like a limit of 2 VMs running OS X per Mac, and I've got 2 Macs to go at if that changes in a future release. -- 1972 - IBM begins development on its last tape drive (3480) ever because of the declining cost of disk drives.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-22 16:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ckuepjFc28uU8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70087 |
On 2015-02-22, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > > Licensing issues, AIUI, preclude you from running earlier OS X versions > in a VM unless they are the server version (such as Snow Leopard > Server). Since later versions apparently are somehow server versions > anyway, again AIUI that limitation doesn't apply to e.g. Yosemite. > BICBW. Meh. I have absolutely no reservations installing Mac OS X client versions in a virtual machine, considering I have purchased many Macs and many versions of Mac OS from Apple in my life time. I'm not stealing anything by doing so - only saving myself time and energy. You can install Mac OS X 10.6 (client) in VirtualBox with ease. All you need is the retail install DVD and a little patience. The rest is brain-dead easy. I've got a VirtualBox Mac OS X 10.6 image that I use often on my Mac Pro running Yosemite. It's lovely not to have to keep a separate spare machine running it. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | android <here@there.was> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-22 05:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ckt4sdF2neeU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70030 |
In article <mc83jk$orj$1@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote: > On 29 Jan 2015 10:47:36 GMT > Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > > > Sufficiently so that I bought one. Although I am hovering on the > > threshold between between keeping it on MacOS for the automatic > > updates & having someone else do the support and ditching MacOS for > > Linux because I prefer it. > > Are there firmware updates you would miss going to linux? > Why not run macos in a vm > You get a Mac because you can install software on it that's not available for Linux... Unless you're a dev that just want to test basic functionality of a port, running OSX natively is the way to go considering the blow to performance a that run virtual is. -- teleportation kills
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-22 10:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cktnuuF7a8eU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70084 |
On 2015-02-22, android <here@there.was> wrote:
> In article <mc83jk$orj$1@dont-email.me>,
> Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 29 Jan 2015 10:47:36 GMT
>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > Sufficiently so that I bought one. Although I am hovering on the
>> > threshold between between keeping it on MacOS for the automatic
>> > updates & having someone else do the support and ditching MacOS for
>> > Linux because I prefer it.
>>
>> Are there firmware updates you would miss going to linux?
>> Why not run macos in a vm
>>
> You get a Mac because you can install software on it that's not
> available for Linux...
Actually, I got an Air because I needed a laptop and I loved the hardware.
The O/S is OK, I guess, but only because there's an 'almost-Unix' hiding
underneath. If it wasn't for that, it would have had Linux on it like a shot.
--
Today is Pungenday, the 53rd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem. If you have a problem with my attitude,
that's your problem.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | android <here@there.was> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-22 15:05 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <cku60eFaubrU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70089 |
In article <cktnuuF7a8eU2@mid.individual.net>, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > On 2015-02-22, android <here@there.was> wrote: > > In article <mc83jk$orj$1@dont-email.me>, > > Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote: > > > >> On 29 Jan 2015 10:47:36 GMT > >> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > >> > >> > Sufficiently so that I bought one. Although I am hovering on the > >> > threshold between between keeping it on MacOS for the automatic > >> > updates & having someone else do the support and ditching MacOS for > >> > Linux because I prefer it. > >> > >> Are there firmware updates you would miss going to linux? > >> Why not run macos in a vm > >> > > You get a Mac because you can install software on it that's not > > available for Linux... > > Actually, I got an Air because I needed a laptop and I loved the hardware. > The O/S is OK, I guess, but only because there's an 'almost-Unix' hiding > underneath. If it wasn't for that, it would have had Linux on it like a shot. No need to tell you that you can get a Windows portable for less than USD 180... http://promotions.newegg.com/nepro/14-2487/index.html#1 -- teleportation kills
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-22 18:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ckum1tFeplsU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70094 |
On 2015-02-22, android <here@there.was> wrote:
> In article <cktnuuF7a8eU2@mid.individual.net>,
> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-02-22, android <here@there.was> wrote:
>> > In article <mc83jk$orj$1@dont-email.me>,
>> > Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 29 Jan 2015 10:47:36 GMT
>> >> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Sufficiently so that I bought one. Although I am hovering on the
>> >> > threshold between between keeping it on MacOS for the automatic
>> >> > updates & having someone else do the support and ditching MacOS for
>> >> > Linux because I prefer it.
>> >>
>> >> Are there firmware updates you would miss going to linux?
>> >> Why not run macos in a vm
>> >>
>> > You get a Mac because you can install software on it that's not
>> > available for Linux...
>>
>> Actually, I got an Air because I needed a laptop and I loved the hardware.
>> The O/S is OK, I guess, but only because there's an 'almost-Unix' hiding
>> underneath. If it wasn't for that, it would have had Linux on it like a shot.
>
> No need to tell you that you can get a Windows portable for less than
> USD 180...
> http://promotions.newegg.com/nepro/14-2487/index.html#1
Not interested. I have a Windows laptop provided by work. That's why I
wanted one that *I* chose.
And I can afford the Air, especially since it was 2nd hand on eBay.
--
Today is Pungenday, the 53rd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem. If you have a problem with my attitude,
that's your problem.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-22 11:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <220220151111163239%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #70089 |
In article <cktnuuF7a8eU2@mid.individual.net>, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > > You get a Mac because you can install software on it that's not > > available for Linux... > > Actually, I got an Air because I needed a laptop and I loved the hardware. > The O/S is OK, I guess, but only because there's an 'almost-Unix' hiding > underneath. If it wasn't for that, it would have had Linux on it like a shot. os x is not an 'almost unix'. it's certified unix. linux is an 'almost unix'.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-22 13:30 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54ea205e$0$29471$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #70100 |
On 15-02-22 11:11, nospam wrote: > os x is not an 'almost unix'. it's certified unix. Although this is correct in the "legal" sense. In real life though, I think that Linux is now the de-facto standard so Linux would be the new Unix. Of the proprietary Unixes, (Solaris, AIX, HP-UX), I am not certain which have true Unix certification. I know that DEC's Digital Unix (later Tru64 under Compaq) had the certification, but it was killed by LaCarly at HP.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-22 13:32 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <220220151332201069%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #70104 |
In article <54ea205e$0$29471$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > > os x is not an 'almost unix'. it's certified unix. > > Although this is correct in the "legal" sense. In real life though, I > think that Linux is now the de-facto standard so Linux would be the new > Unix. os x is certified unix. end of story. linux is a wannabe, in many respects.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-25 19:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <2PydnTgL6p_C_3PJnZ2dnUU7-UGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #70105 |
On 2015.02.22 13:32 , nospam wrote:
> In article <54ea205e$0$29471$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>, JF
> Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>>> os x is not an 'almost unix'. it's certified unix.
>>
>> Although this is correct in the "legal" sense. In real life though, I
>> think that Linux is now the de-facto standard so Linux would be the new
>> Unix.
>
> os x is certified unix. end of story.
>
> linux is a wannabe, in many respects.
OS X is what Linux wants to be when it grows up.
--
"Your net worth to the world is usually
determined by what remains after your
bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
Benjamin Franklin
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-22 18:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ckum5dFeplsU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70104 |
On 2015-02-22, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 15-02-22 11:11, nospam wrote:
>
>> os x is not an 'almost unix'. it's certified unix.
There's a good reason you're killfiled here; you're a idiot.
> Although this is correct in the "legal" sense.
Indeed. Not that that makes the slightest difference to me.
> In real life though, I
> think that Linux is now the de-facto standard so Linux would be the new
> Unix.
Irrelevant.
> Of the proprietary Unixes, (Solaris, AIX, HP-UX), I am not certain which
> have true Unix certification. I know that DEC's Digital Unix (later
> Tru64 under Compaq) had the certification, but it was killed by LaCarly
> at HP.
--
Today is Pungenday, the 53rd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem. If you have a problem with my attitude,
that's your problem.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
Page 2 of 5 — ← Prev page 1 [2] 3 4 5 Next page →
Back to top | Article view | comp.sys.mac.system
csiph-web