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  Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-05 13:33 -0500
    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-05 10:47 -0800
    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-05 19:51 +0000
      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-05 21:46 +0000
        Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-05 23:44 +0000
          Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-02-05 19:00 -0500
            Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 00:05 +0000
              Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-02-05 19:11 -0500
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 00:18 +0000
                  Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:49 -0500
                    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 14:23 +0000
                      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 13:46 -0500
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:47 -0500
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Matt Simpson <usenet@news.jmatt.net> - 2015-02-06 17:24 +0000
                  Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 13:50 -0500
                    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 18:54 +0000
              Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:46 -0500
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 14:21 +0000
          Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:45 -0500
            Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 14:20 +0000
        Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:44 -0500
      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:50 -0500
        Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 14:24 +0000
          Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 13:47 -0500
            Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 18:52 +0000
              Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 15:55 -0500
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-02-07 04:41 -0800
    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-05 21:45 +0000
      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:45 -0500
    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-05 16:30 -0800
      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:50 -0500
        Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-06 08:52 -0800
          Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 13:49 -0500
            Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-06 15:25 -0800
              Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 23:41 +0000
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-02-06 20:04 -0500
                  Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-07 02:00 +0000
                    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-06 18:49 -0800
                      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-02-06 21:41 -0800
                        Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-06 21:57 -0800
                          Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-02-07 14:41 -0800
                      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-07 14:09 +0000
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-06 20:41 -0800
                  Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-07 18:13 +1300
                    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-07 06:18 -0800

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#69526

On 2015.02.05 16:46 , Lewis wrote:
> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
>>> Does the cockamamie iCloud copy SSID's amongst devices in an account?
>>> That would (possibly) make sense for mobile devices, but certainly not
>>> for a 27" iMac.
>
>> Makes sense for laptops, though. And I'm sure someone on planet Earth
>> has moved a desktop computer around expecting them to be there. For the
>> rest of us, the delete key works fine.
>
> That's probably not a good idea. If you delete them, they will be
> deleted off the other devices.

Did that - did not delete them from my iPhone or work MBA.


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#69533

On 2015.02.05 14:51 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-02-05, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>> I was just checking the WiFi settings on this iMac and noticed that it
>> is populated with SSID's that this iMac has never been close to:
>>
>> - two work WiFi SSID's
>>
>> - Many hotels
>>
>> - A city admin centre
>>
>> etc.
>>
>> Those were visited by either my laptop or iPhone, but never this iMac
>> unless someone's been trotting it around ...
>>
>> Indeed my "home" WiFi SSID has been pushed down in the list!  (I don't
>> use WiFi for this iMac, I hardwire, but connect occasionally to see
>> what's going on in the 'hood (iStumbler)).
>>
>> Does the cockamamie iCloud copy SSID's amongst devices in an account?
>> That would (possibly) make sense for mobile devices, but certainly not
>> for a 27" iMac.
>
> Makes sense for laptops, though. And I'm sure someone on planet Earth
> has moved a desktop computer around expecting them to be there. For the
> rest of us, the delete key works fine.

Another maintenance task to do.  And not convinced it's all that much of 
a benefit for laptops.  By the time I return to one of those hotels (if 
ever) the password will have changed in any case (or access codes go via 
a web page).  Better to start fresh each time.


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  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
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#69537

On 2015-02-06, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2015.02.05 14:51 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>
>> Makes sense for laptops, though. And I'm sure someone on planet Earth
>> has moved a desktop computer around expecting them to be there. For the
>> rest of us, the delete key works fine.
>
> Another maintenance task to do.  And not convinced it's all that much of 
> a benefit for laptops.  By the time I return to one of those hotels (if 
> ever) the password will have changed in any case (or access codes go via 
> a web page).  Better to start fresh each time.

I agree there should be more ways to control it.

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#69543

On 2015.02.06 09:24 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-02-06, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2015.02.05 14:51 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>
>>> Makes sense for laptops, though. And I'm sure someone on planet Earth
>>> has moved a desktop computer around expecting them to be there. For the
>>> rest of us, the delete key works fine.
>>
>> Another maintenance task to do.  And not convinced it's all that much of
>> a benefit for laptops.  By the time I return to one of those hotels (if
>> ever) the password will have changed in any case (or access codes go via
>> a web page).  Better to start fresh each time.
>
> I agree there should be more ways to control it.

Fer Christ's sakes JR, don't agree with me.

People will get the wrong impression!   ;-[]


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  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
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#69546

On 2015-02-06, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2015.02.06 09:24 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2015-02-06, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2015.02.05 14:51 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Makes sense for laptops, though. And I'm sure someone on planet Earth
>>>> has moved a desktop computer around expecting them to be there. For the
>>>> rest of us, the delete key works fine.
>>>
>>> Another maintenance task to do.  And not convinced it's all that much of
>>> a benefit for laptops.  By the time I return to one of those hotels (if
>>> ever) the password will have changed in any case (or access codes go via
>>> a web page).  Better to start fresh each time.
>>
>> I agree there should be more ways to control it.
>
> Fer Christ's sakes JR, don't agree with me.
>
> People will get the wrong impression!   ;-[]

Wait, are you saying dinner is off?

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#69548

On 2015.02.06 13:52 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-02-06, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2015.02.06 09:24 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2015-02-06, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>> On 2015.02.05 14:51 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Makes sense for laptops, though. And I'm sure someone on planet Earth
>>>>> has moved a desktop computer around expecting them to be there. For the
>>>>> rest of us, the delete key works fine.
>>>>
>>>> Another maintenance task to do.  And not convinced it's all that much of
>>>> a benefit for laptops.  By the time I return to one of those hotels (if
>>>> ever) the password will have changed in any case (or access codes go via
>>>> a web page).  Better to start fresh each time.
>>>
>>> I agree there should be more ways to control it.
>>
>> Fer Christ's sakes JR, don't agree with me.
>>
>> People will get the wrong impression!   ;-[]
>
> Wait, are you saying dinner is off?

... uh, can't remember who was buying ...


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  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
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#69561

On 2/6/2015 12:55 PM, Alan Browne wrote:

>> Wait, are you saying dinner is off?
>
> ... uh, can't remember who was buying ...

You. :P
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#69515

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> was all, like:

> Those were visited by either my laptop or iPhone, but never this iMac 
> unless someone's been trotting it around ...

It got them from your other devices.

> Does the cockamamie iCloud copy SSID's amongst devices in an account? 
> That would (possibly) make sense for mobile devices, but certainly not 
> for a 27" iMac.

It was awfully convenient when I had to take my Mini into the office.

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#69527

On 2015.02.05 16:45 , Lewis wrote:
> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> was all, like:
>
>> Those were visited by either my laptop or iPhone, but never this iMac
>> unless someone's been trotting it around ...
>
> It got them from your other devices.
>
>> Does the cockamamie iCloud copy SSID's amongst devices in an account?
>> That would (possibly) make sense for mobile devices, but certainly not
>> for a 27" iMac.
>
> It was awfully convenient when I had to take my Mini into the office.

Pretty unlikely that I'd drag my 27" iMac there - and if I had to the 
bother of entering a password would be nothing much to worry about.


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  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
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#69523

On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 13:33:19 -0500
Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> 
> Does the cockamamie iCloud copy SSID's amongst devices in an account? 

Always wondered how cockamamie was spelled.

> That would (possibly) make sense for mobile devices, but certainly
> not for a 27" iMac.

Everything makes sense in the cloud








 

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#69532

On 2015.02.05 19:30 , Electric Comet wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 13:33:19 -0500
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>> Does the cockamamie iCloud copy SSID's amongst devices in an account?
>
> Always wondered how cockamamie was spelled.

I needed a spell checker.

>
>> That would (possibly) make sense for mobile devices, but certainly
>> not for a 27" iMac.
>
> Everything makes sense in the cloud

Thanks.  Code broken:


				iCloud is the new RDF.



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  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
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#69538

On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 08:50:16 -0500
Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> I needed a spell checker.

You spelled it right I just realized I never noticed seeing the word in
writing before.  Serendipity or a glitch in the matrix? The book I was
reading used the word after I'd read it here.

> 				iCloud is the new RDF.

Isn't it worse than that.

 
> "Your net worth to the world is usually
>   determined by what remains after your
>   bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
>                                    Benjamin Franklin

Sounds about right.




 
 

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#69544

On 2015.02.06 11:52 , Electric Comet wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 08:50:16 -0500
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> I needed a spell checker.
>
> You spelled it right

... because I used a spell checker.  When I first misspelled it, 
Thunderbird undersquiggled it.


I just realized I never noticed seeing the word in
> writing before.  Serendipity or a glitch in the matrix? The book I was
> reading used the word after I'd read it here.
>
>> 				iCloud is the new RDF.
>
> Isn't it worse than that.

Nothing can be worse.  (I may regret saying that).


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"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
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#69549

On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 13:49:31 -0500
Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> ... because I used a spell checker.  When I first misspelled it, 
> Thunderbird undersquiggled it.

I misread then, maybe I was projecting my fear of spelling it wrong.

> Nothing can be worse.  (I may regret saying that).

Maybe you won't have to regret it but just live to see it disproved
wait that the same?


the cloud's too, well, cloudy for me, I like sunshine
they probably voted against calling it sunshine because it would
have made people question it, be suspicious of it



 

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#69550

On 2015-02-06, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 13:49:31 -0500
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> ... because I used a spell checker.  When I first misspelled it, 
>> Thunderbird undersquiggled it.
>
> I misread then, maybe I was projecting my fear of spelling it wrong.
>
>> Nothing can be worse.  (I may regret saying that).
>
> Maybe you won't have to regret it but just live to see it disproved
> wait that the same?
>
> the cloud's too, well, cloudy for me, I like sunshine

The cloud is nothing but the internet; and it's been around for a long,
long time. 

> they probably voted against calling it sunshine because it would
> have made people question it, be suspicious of it

It was obviously a mistake to call it the cloud due to some people's
strange paranoia.

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#69551

In article <cjl1q4FkbajU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-02-06, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> > On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 13:49:31 -0500
> > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> ... because I used a spell checker.  When I first misspelled it, 
> >> Thunderbird undersquiggled it.
> >
> > I misread then, maybe I was projecting my fear of spelling it wrong.
> >
> >> Nothing can be worse.  (I may regret saying that).
> >
> > Maybe you won't have to regret it but just live to see it disproved
> > wait that the same?
> >
> > the cloud's too, well, cloudy for me, I like sunshine
> 
> The cloud is nothing but the internet; and it's been around for a long,
> long time. 

"The cloud" is not just the Internet. It's a particular way that the 
Internet is used, to store data used by client applications, and update 
and retrieve it automatically and transparently as needed.

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#69553

On 2015-02-07, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <cjl1q4FkbajU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-02-06, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
>> > On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 13:49:31 -0500
>> > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >> ... because I used a spell checker.  When I first misspelled it, 
>> >> Thunderbird undersquiggled it.
>> >
>> > I misread then, maybe I was projecting my fear of spelling it wrong.
>> >
>> >> Nothing can be worse.  (I may regret saying that).
>> >
>> > Maybe you won't have to regret it but just live to see it disproved
>> > wait that the same?
>> >
>> > the cloud's too, well, cloudy for me, I like sunshine
>> 
>> The cloud is nothing but the internet; and it's been around for a long,
>> long time. 
>
> "The cloud" is not just the Internet. It's a particular way that the 
> Internet is used, to store data used by client applications, and update 
> and retrieve it automatically and transparently as needed.

People have been storing data from client applications and so on with
the internet long before than the term "the cloud" became popular.

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#69554

On 2015-02-07 02:00:05 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2015-02-07, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>> In article <cjl1q4FkbajU1@mid.individual.net>,
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2015-02-06, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 13:49:31 -0500
>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ... because I used a spell checker.  When I first misspelled it,
>>>>> Thunderbird undersquiggled it.
>>>> 
>>>> I misread then, maybe I was projecting my fear of spelling it wrong.
>>>> 
>>>>> Nothing can be worse.  (I may regret saying that).
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe you won't have to regret it but just live to see it disproved
>>>> wait that the same?
>>>> 
>>>> the cloud's too, well, cloudy for me, I like sunshine
>>> 
>>> The cloud is nothing but the internet; and it's been around for a long,
>>> long time.
>> 
>> "The cloud" is not just the Internet. It's a particular way that the
>> Internet is used, to store data used by client applications, and update
>> and retrieve it automatically and transparently as needed.
> 
> People have been storing data from client applications and so on with
> the internet long before than the term "the cloud" became popular.

"The cloud" is a useful term.

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#69559

In article <mb3ufk$c59$1@news.datemas.de>,
 Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:

> On 2015-02-07 02:00:05 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
> 
> > On 2015-02-07, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> >> In article <cjl1q4FkbajU1@mid.individual.net>,
> >> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On 2015-02-06, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 13:49:31 -0500
> >>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> ... because I used a spell checker.  When I first misspelled it,
> >>>>> Thunderbird undersquiggled it.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I misread then, maybe I was projecting my fear of spelling it wrong.
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Nothing can be worse.  (I may regret saying that).
> >>>> 
> >>>> Maybe you won't have to regret it but just live to see it disproved
> >>>> wait that the same?
> >>>> 
> >>>> the cloud's too, well, cloudy for me, I like sunshine
> >>> 
> >>> The cloud is nothing but the internet; and it's been around for a long,
> >>> long time.
> >> 
> >> "The cloud" is not just the Internet. It's a particular way that the
> >> Internet is used, to store data used by client applications, and update
> >> and retrieve it automatically and transparently as needed.
> > 
> > People have been storing data from client applications and so on with
> > the internet long before than the term "the cloud" became popular.
> 
> "The cloud" is a useful term.

Not any more.  It now usually means "privately owned database," which is 
very different from the original meaning.  Mail, web sites, and torrents 
are about the only true cloud services.  The technology exists for there 
to be many more but most ISPs severely restrict usage by customers - 
slow speeds, no static IP addresses, no home servers allowed, blocked 
ports, and bandwidth caps.

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On 2015-02-07 05:41:58 +0000, Kevin McMurtrie said:

> In article <mb3ufk$c59$1@news.datemas.de>,
>  Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-02-07 02:00:05 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> 
>>> On 2015-02-07, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>>> In article <cjl1q4FkbajU1@mid.individual.net>,
>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2015-02-06, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 13:49:31 -0500
>>>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ... because I used a spell checker.  When I first misspelled it,
>>>>>>> Thunderbird undersquiggled it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I misread then, maybe I was projecting my fear of spelling it wrong.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nothing can be worse.  (I may regret saying that).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maybe you won't have to regret it but just live to see it disproved
>>>>>> wait that the same?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> the cloud's too, well, cloudy for me, I like sunshine
>>>>> 
>>>>> The cloud is nothing but the internet; and it's been around for a long,
>>>>> long time.
>>>> 
>>>> "The cloud" is not just the Internet. It's a particular way that the
>>>> Internet is used, to store data used by client applications, and update
>>>> and retrieve it automatically and transparently as needed.
>>> 
>>> People have been storing data from client applications and so on with
>>> the internet long before than the term "the cloud" became popular.
>> 
>> "The cloud" is a useful term.
> 
> Not any more.  It now usually means "privately owned database," which is
> very different from the original meaning.  Mail, web sites, and torrents
> are about the only true cloud services.  The technology exists for there
> to be many more but most ISPs severely restrict usage by customers -
> slow speeds, no static IP addresses, no home servers allowed, blocked
> ports, and bandwidth caps.

I don't recall this "privately owned database" usage. Do you have any examples?

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