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  Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-05 13:33 -0500
    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-05 10:47 -0800
    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-05 19:51 +0000
      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-05 21:46 +0000
        Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-05 23:44 +0000
          Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-02-05 19:00 -0500
            Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 00:05 +0000
              Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-02-05 19:11 -0500
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 00:18 +0000
                  Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:49 -0500
                    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 14:23 +0000
                      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 13:46 -0500
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:47 -0500
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Matt Simpson <usenet@news.jmatt.net> - 2015-02-06 17:24 +0000
                  Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 13:50 -0500
                    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 18:54 +0000
              Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:46 -0500
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 14:21 +0000
          Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:45 -0500
            Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 14:20 +0000
        Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:44 -0500
      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:50 -0500
        Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 14:24 +0000
          Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 13:47 -0500
            Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 18:52 +0000
              Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 15:55 -0500
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-02-07 04:41 -0800
    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-05 21:45 +0000
      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:45 -0500
    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-05 16:30 -0800
      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:50 -0500
        Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-06 08:52 -0800
          Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 13:49 -0500
            Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-06 15:25 -0800
              Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 23:41 +0000
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-02-06 20:04 -0500
                  Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-07 02:00 +0000
                    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-06 18:49 -0800
                      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-02-06 21:41 -0800
                        Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-06 21:57 -0800
                          Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-02-07 14:41 -0800
                      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-07 14:09 +0000
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-06 20:41 -0800
                  Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-07 18:13 +1300
                    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-07 06:18 -0800

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#69511 — Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list?

I was just checking the WiFi settings on this iMac and noticed that it 
is populated with SSID's that this iMac has never been close to:

- two work WiFi SSID's

- Many hotels

- A city admin centre

etc.

Those were visited by either my laptop or iPhone, but never this iMac 
unless someone's been trotting it around ...

Indeed my "home" WiFi SSID has been pushed down in the list!  (I don't 
use WiFi for this iMac, I hardwire, but connect occasionally to see 
what's going on in the 'hood (iStumbler)).

Does the cockamamie iCloud copy SSID's amongst devices in an account? 
That would (possibly) make sense for mobile devices, but certainly not 
for a 27" iMac.

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#69512

On 2015-02-05 18:33:19 +0000, Alan Browne said:

> I was just checking the WiFi settings on this iMac and noticed that it 
> is populated with SSID's that this iMac has never been close to:
> 
> - two work WiFi SSID's
> 
> - Many hotels
> 
> - A city admin centre
> 
> etc.
> 
> Those were visited by either my laptop or iPhone, but never this iMac 
> unless someone's been trotting it around ...
> 
> Indeed my "home" WiFi SSID has been pushed down in the list!  (I don't 
> use WiFi for this iMac, I hardwire, but connect occasionally to see 
> what's going on in the 'hood (iStumbler)).
> 
> Does the cockamamie iCloud copy SSID's amongst devices in an account? 
> That would (possibly) make sense for mobile devices, but certainly not 
> for a 27" iMac.

But this is cloud data synching:

The cloud is king and everyone synchs to it.

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#69513

On 2015-02-05, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
> I was just checking the WiFi settings on this iMac and noticed that it 
> is populated with SSID's that this iMac has never been close to:
>
> - two work WiFi SSID's
>
> - Many hotels
>
> - A city admin centre
>
> etc.
>
> Those were visited by either my laptop or iPhone, but never this iMac 
> unless someone's been trotting it around ...
>
> Indeed my "home" WiFi SSID has been pushed down in the list!  (I don't 
> use WiFi for this iMac, I hardwire, but connect occasionally to see 
> what's going on in the 'hood (iStumbler)).
>
> Does the cockamamie iCloud copy SSID's amongst devices in an account? 
> That would (possibly) make sense for mobile devices, but certainly not 
> for a 27" iMac.

Makes sense for laptops, though. And I'm sure someone on planet Earth
has moved a desktop computer around expecting them to be there. For the
rest of us, the delete key works fine.

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JR

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#69516

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
>> Does the cockamamie iCloud copy SSID's amongst devices in an account? 
>> That would (possibly) make sense for mobile devices, but certainly not 
>> for a 27" iMac.

> Makes sense for laptops, though. And I'm sure someone on planet Earth
> has moved a desktop computer around expecting them to be there. For the
> rest of us, the delete key works fine.

That's probably not a good idea. If you delete them, they will be
deleted off the other devices.

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#69517

On 2015-02-05, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
>>> Does the cockamamie iCloud copy SSID's amongst devices in an account? 
>>> That would (possibly) make sense for mobile devices, but certainly not 
>>> for a 27" iMac.
>
>> Makes sense for laptops, though. And I'm sure someone on planet Earth
>> has moved a desktop computer around expecting them to be there. For the
>> rest of us, the delete key works fine.
>
> That's probably not a good idea. If you delete them, they will be
> deleted off the other devices.

That depends on which access points you've collected. Most of mine are
collected from trips I take while on vacation, and there's absolutely no
need to hang onto those.

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JR

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#69518

In article <cjidi7Fu0euU2@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-02-05, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> > Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was 
> > all, like:
> >>> Does the cockamamie iCloud copy SSID's amongst devices in an account? 
> >>> That would (possibly) make sense for mobile devices, but certainly not 
> >>> for a 27" iMac.
> >
> >> Makes sense for laptops, though. And I'm sure someone on planet Earth
> >> has moved a desktop computer around expecting them to be there. For the
> >> rest of us, the delete key works fine.
> >
> > That's probably not a good idea. If you delete them, they will be
> > deleted off the other devices.
> 
> That depends on which access points you've collected. Most of mine are
> collected from trips I take while on vacation, and there's absolutely no
> need to hang onto those.

It seemed like he was also suggesting removing the ones for local 
hotspots that you use with your mobile devices, e.g. Starbucks.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#69519

On 2015-02-06, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <cjidi7Fu0euU2@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-02-05, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> > Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was 
>> > all, like:
>> >>> Does the cockamamie iCloud copy SSID's amongst devices in an account? 
>> >>> That would (possibly) make sense for mobile devices, but certainly not 
>> >>> for a 27" iMac.
>> >
>> >> Makes sense for laptops, though. And I'm sure someone on planet Earth
>> >> has moved a desktop computer around expecting them to be there. For the
>> >> rest of us, the delete key works fine.
>> >
>> > That's probably not a good idea. If you delete them, they will be
>> > deleted off the other devices.
>> 
>> That depends on which access points you've collected. Most of mine are
>> collected from trips I take while on vacation, and there's absolutely no
>> need to hang onto those.
>
> It seemed like he was also suggesting removing the ones for local 
> hotspots that you use with your mobile devices, e.g. Starbucks.

If so, he'd have to reconnect to them. Big deal. Anyhow, he's in full
control. So he can do as he pleases.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#69520

In article <cjiepdFu0euU5@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-02-06, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > In article <cjidi7Fu0euU2@mid.individual.net>,
> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2015-02-05, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >> > Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was 
> >> > all, like:
> >> >>> Does the cockamamie iCloud copy SSID's amongst devices in an account? 
> >> >>> That would (possibly) make sense for mobile devices, but certainly not 
> >> >>> for a 27" iMac.
> >> >
> >> >> Makes sense for laptops, though. And I'm sure someone on planet Earth
> >> >> has moved a desktop computer around expecting them to be there. For the
> >> >> rest of us, the delete key works fine.
> >> >
> >> > That's probably not a good idea. If you delete them, they will be
> >> > deleted off the other devices.
> >> 
> >> That depends on which access points you've collected. Most of mine are
> >> collected from trips I take while on vacation, and there's absolutely no
> >> need to hang onto those.
> >
> > It seemed like he was also suggesting removing the ones for local 
> > hotspots that you use with your mobile devices, e.g. Starbucks.
> 
> If so, he'd have to reconnect to them. Big deal. Anyhow, he's in full
> control. So he can do as he pleases.

And then they'll come back on the desktop, too, when it syncs to the 
cloud. There's probably no way to keep the SSID list on the desktop 
clean.

I wonder why he even cares? It's not like you need to go into the WiFi 
network list on a desktop machine much -- just connect it and forget it.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#69521

On 2015-02-06, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <cjiepdFu0euU5@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-02-06, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> It seemed like he was also suggesting removing the ones for local 
>>> hotspots that you use with your mobile devices, e.g. Starbucks.
>> 
>> If so, he'd have to reconnect to them. Big deal. Anyhow, he's in full
>> control. So he can do as he pleases.
>
> And then they'll come back on the desktop, too, when it syncs to the 
> cloud.

Yep.

> There's probably no way to keep the SSID list on the desktop 
> clean.

It's a relatively new feature. Give it time.

> I wonder why he even cares? It's not like you need to go into the WiFi 
> network list on a desktop machine much -- just connect it and forget it.

Well, in my case, it was slowing down the amount of time it took for my
MacBook Pro to rejoin my home network upon waking it up, even though
mine was first in the list. I would open the lid, open a terminal
window, and find that network access wasn't restored until up to 10
seconds later. I noticed I had about 30 access points in the list.
Deleting the extra ones fixed the issue.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#69531

On 2015.02.05 19:18 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-02-06, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>> In article <cjiepdFu0euU5@mid.individual.net>,
>>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-02-06, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It seemed like he was also suggesting removing the ones for local
>>>> hotspots that you use with your mobile devices, e.g. Starbucks.
>>>
>>> If so, he'd have to reconnect to them. Big deal. Anyhow, he's in full
>>> control. So he can do as he pleases.
>>
>> And then they'll come back on the desktop, too, when it syncs to the
>> cloud.
>
> Yep.
>
>> There's probably no way to keep the SSID list on the desktop
>> clean.
>
> It's a relatively new feature. Give it time.
>
>> I wonder why he even cares? It's not like you need to go into the WiFi
>> network list on a desktop machine much -- just connect it and forget it.
>
> Well, in my case, it was slowing down the amount of time it took for my
> MacBook Pro to rejoin my home network upon waking it up, even though
> mine was first in the list. I would open the lid, open a terminal
> window, and find that network access wasn't restored until up to 10
> seconds later. I noticed I had about 30 access points in the list.
> Deleting the extra ones fixed the issue.

Maintenance one should not have to do in "it just works" land.

But on that point, I do notice since I cleaned out the work WiFi SSID 
list that it does re-connect by itself and more quickly.

-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
                                   Benjamin Franklin

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#69536

On 2015-02-06, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2015.02.05 19:18 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>
>> Well, in my case, it was slowing down the amount of time it took for my
>> MacBook Pro to rejoin my home network upon waking it up, even though
>> mine was first in the list. I would open the lid, open a terminal
>> window, and find that network access wasn't restored until up to 10
>> seconds later. I noticed I had about 30 access points in the list.
>> Deleting the extra ones fixed the issue.
>
> Maintenance one should not have to do in "it just works" land.

It's relatively new functionality. It'll take a bit to work the kinks
out.

> But on that point, I do notice since I cleaned out the work WiFi SSID 
> list that it does re-connect by itself and more quickly.

It definitely solved my problem. Ever since, I'm immediately connected
as soon as I open the lid.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#69542

On 2015.02.06 09:23 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-02-06, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2015.02.05 19:18 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, in my case, it was slowing down the amount of time it took for my
>>> MacBook Pro to rejoin my home network upon waking it up, even though
>>> mine was first in the list. I would open the lid, open a terminal
>>> window, and find that network access wasn't restored until up to 10
>>> seconds later. I noticed I had about 30 access points in the list.
>>> Deleting the extra ones fixed the issue.
>>
>> Maintenance one should not have to do in "it just works" land.
>
> It's relatively new functionality. It'll take a bit to work the kinks
> out.
>
>> But on that point, I do notice since I cleaned out the work WiFi SSID
>> list that it does re-connect by itself and more quickly.
>
> It definitely solved my problem. Ever since, I'm immediately connected
> as soon as I open the lid.

I didn't have time to dicker with it today, I'll try again on Monday to 
see how well it reconnects after it's been elsewhere.

-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
                                   Benjamin Franklin

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#69530

On 2015.02.05 19:11 , Barry Margolin wrote:
> In article <cjiepdFu0euU5@mid.individual.net>,
>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-02-06, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>> In article <cjidi7Fu0euU2@mid.individual.net>,
>>>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-02-05, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was
>>>>> all, like:
>>>>>>> Does the cockamamie iCloud copy SSID's amongst devices in an account?
>>>>>>> That would (possibly) make sense for mobile devices, but certainly not
>>>>>>> for a 27" iMac.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Makes sense for laptops, though. And I'm sure someone on planet Earth
>>>>>> has moved a desktop computer around expecting them to be there. For the
>>>>>> rest of us, the delete key works fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's probably not a good idea. If you delete them, they will be
>>>>> deleted off the other devices.
>>>>
>>>> That depends on which access points you've collected. Most of mine are
>>>> collected from trips I take while on vacation, and there's absolutely no
>>>> need to hang onto those.
>>>
>>> It seemed like he was also suggesting removing the ones for local
>>> hotspots that you use with your mobile devices, e.g. Starbucks.
>>
>> If so, he'd have to reconnect to them. Big deal. Anyhow, he's in full
>> control. So he can do as he pleases.
>
> And then they'll come back on the desktop, too, when it syncs to the
> cloud. There's probably no way to keep the SSID list on the desktop
> clean.
>
> I wonder why he even cares? It's not like you need to go into the WiFi
> network list on a desktop machine much -- just connect it and forget it.

"He" was not pleased that on "his" work laptop, the work SSID got pushed 
down out of order and it was no longer the preferred SSID.

-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
                                   Benjamin Franklin

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#69540

Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
 
> And then they'll come back on the desktop, too, when it syncs to the  
> cloud. There's probably no way to keep the SSID list on the desktop  
> clean. 
>  

I think there is a way.  I believe the SSID syncing is a part of the 
iCloud Keychain sync which can be disabled in iCloud preferences.  If you 
disable it, it will also disable syncing of other passwords.  That may or 
not be a problem, depending on how much you rely on that feature.  It 
would be nice if there was additional control over what kind of keychain 
entries get synced,

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#69545

On 2015.02.06 12:24 , Matt Simpson wrote:
> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> And then they'll come back on the desktop, too, when it syncs to the
>> cloud. There's probably no way to keep the SSID list on the desktop
>> clean.
>>
>
> I think there is a way.  I believe the SSID syncing is a part of the
> iCloud Keychain sync which can be disabled in iCloud preferences.  If you
> disable it, it will also disable syncing of other passwords.  That may or
> not be a problem, depending on how much you rely on that feature.  It
> would be nice if there was additional control over what kind of keychain
> entries get synced,

A checkbox for SSID's would be quite welcome even if it's against the 
simplicity ethos of Apple.  (Actually things have gotten quite so crazy 
complex of late ...)



-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
                                   Benjamin Franklin

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#69547

On 2015-02-06, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2015.02.06 12:24 , Matt Simpson wrote:
>> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> And then they'll come back on the desktop, too, when it syncs to the
>>> cloud. There's probably no way to keep the SSID list on the desktop
>>> clean.
>>
>> I think there is a way.  I believe the SSID syncing is a part of the
>> iCloud Keychain sync which can be disabled in iCloud preferences.  If you
>> disable it, it will also disable syncing of other passwords.  That may or
>> not be a problem, depending on how much you rely on that feature.  It
>> would be nice if there was additional control over what kind of keychain
>> entries get synced,
>
> A checkbox for SSID's would be quite welcome even if it's against the 
> simplicity ethos of Apple.  (Actually things have gotten quite so crazy 
> complex of late ...)

They have, but to be fair, we're in the middle of several large
transitions and the introductions of new technologies like iCloud,
Continuity and so on. It'll take a bit for things to level out,
naturally.

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#69529

On 2015.02.05 19:05 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-02-06, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>> In article <cjidi7Fu0euU2@mid.individual.net>,
>>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-02-05, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was
>>>> all, like:
>>>>>> Does the cockamamie iCloud copy SSID's amongst devices in an account?
>>>>>> That would (possibly) make sense for mobile devices, but certainly not
>>>>>> for a 27" iMac.
>>>>
>>>>> Makes sense for laptops, though. And I'm sure someone on planet Earth
>>>>> has moved a desktop computer around expecting them to be there. For the
>>>>> rest of us, the delete key works fine.
>>>>
>>>> That's probably not a good idea. If you delete them, they will be
>>>> deleted off the other devices.
>>>
>>> That depends on which access points you've collected. Most of mine are
>>> collected from trips I take while on vacation, and there's absolutely no
>>> need to hang onto those.
>>
>> It seemed like he was also suggesting removing the ones for local
>> hotspots that you use with your mobile devices, e.g. Starbucks.
>
> If so, he'd have to reconnect to them. Big deal. Anyhow, he's in full
> control. So he can do as he pleases.

I'd rather not have to.  I'd rather the WiFi SSID manager (whatever it 
is or called) keeps things local to the device.


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#69535

On 2015-02-06, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2015.02.05 19:05 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2015-02-06, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>> In article <cjidi7Fu0euU2@mid.individual.net>,
>>>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-02-05, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was
>>>>> all, like:
>>>>>>> Does the cockamamie iCloud copy SSID's amongst devices in an account?
>>>>>>> That would (possibly) make sense for mobile devices, but certainly not
>>>>>>> for a 27" iMac.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Makes sense for laptops, though. And I'm sure someone on planet Earth
>>>>>> has moved a desktop computer around expecting them to be there. For the
>>>>>> rest of us, the delete key works fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's probably not a good idea. If you delete them, they will be
>>>>> deleted off the other devices.
>>>>
>>>> That depends on which access points you've collected. Most of mine are
>>>> collected from trips I take while on vacation, and there's absolutely no
>>>> need to hang onto those.
>>>
>>> It seemed like he was also suggesting removing the ones for local
>>> hotspots that you use with your mobile devices, e.g. Starbucks.
>>
>> If so, he'd have to reconnect to them. Big deal. Anyhow, he's in full
>> control. So he can do as he pleases.
>
> I'd rather not have to.  I'd rather the WiFi SSID manager (whatever it 
> is or called) keeps things local to the device.

I'm sure eventually we'll see a control for that if enough customers
want it.

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#69528

On 2015.02.05 18:44 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> That depends on which access points you've collected. Most of mine are
> collected from trips I take while on vacation, and there's absolutely no
> need to hang onto those.

Even less so to propagate them to other devices.

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#69534

On 2015-02-06, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2015.02.05 18:44 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>> That depends on which access points you've collected. Most of mine are
>> collected from trips I take while on vacation, and there's absolutely no
>> need to hang onto those.
>
> Even less so to propagate them to other devices.

I wouldn't go that far. I've found it very handy while on trips that
once I connected to a hotel network on one device, it showed up on my
other devices.

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