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Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list?

Started byAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
First post2015-02-05 13:33 -0500
Last post2015-02-07 06:18 -0800
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  Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-05 13:33 -0500
    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-05 10:47 -0800
    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-05 19:51 +0000
      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-05 21:46 +0000
        Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-05 23:44 +0000
          Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-02-05 19:00 -0500
            Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 00:05 +0000
              Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-02-05 19:11 -0500
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 00:18 +0000
                  Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:49 -0500
                    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 14:23 +0000
                      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 13:46 -0500
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:47 -0500
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Matt Simpson <usenet@news.jmatt.net> - 2015-02-06 17:24 +0000
                  Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 13:50 -0500
                    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 18:54 +0000
              Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:46 -0500
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 14:21 +0000
          Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:45 -0500
            Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 14:20 +0000
        Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:44 -0500
      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:50 -0500
        Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 14:24 +0000
          Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 13:47 -0500
            Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 18:52 +0000
              Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 15:55 -0500
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-02-07 04:41 -0800
    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-05 21:45 +0000
      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:45 -0500
    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-05 16:30 -0800
      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 08:50 -0500
        Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-06 08:52 -0800
          Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-06 13:49 -0500
            Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-06 15:25 -0800
              Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-06 23:41 +0000
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-02-06 20:04 -0500
                  Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-07 02:00 +0000
                    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-06 18:49 -0800
                      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-02-06 21:41 -0800
                        Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-06 21:57 -0800
                          Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-02-07 14:41 -0800
                      Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-07 14:09 +0000
                Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-06 20:41 -0800
                  Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-07 18:13 +1300
                    Re: Why are WiFi SSID's my iMac has never been near in my WiFi list? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-07 06:18 -0800

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#69574

FromKevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us>
Date2015-02-07 14:41 -0800
Message-ID<mcmurtrie-A5C676.14412507022015@news.sonic.net>
In reply to#69560
In article <mb49g5$uhf$1@news.datemas.de>,
 Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:

> On 2015-02-07 05:41:58 +0000, Kevin McMurtrie said:
> 
> > In article <mb3ufk$c59$1@news.datemas.de>,
> >  Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 2015-02-07 02:00:05 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
> >> 
> >>> On 2015-02-07, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> >>>> In article <cjl1q4FkbajU1@mid.individual.net>,
> >>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On 2015-02-06, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 13:49:31 -0500
> >>>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> ... because I used a spell checker.  When I first misspelled it,
> >>>>>>> Thunderbird undersquiggled it.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I misread then, maybe I was projecting my fear of spelling it wrong.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Nothing can be worse.  (I may regret saying that).
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Maybe you won't have to regret it but just live to see it disproved
> >>>>>> wait that the same?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> the cloud's too, well, cloudy for me, I like sunshine
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> The cloud is nothing but the internet; and it's been around for a long,
> >>>>> long time.
> >>>> 
> >>>> "The cloud" is not just the Internet. It's a particular way that the
> >>>> Internet is used, to store data used by client applications, and update
> >>>> and retrieve it automatically and transparently as needed.
> >>> 
> >>> People have been storing data from client applications and so on with
> >>> the internet long before than the term "the cloud" became popular.
> >> 
> >> "The cloud" is a useful term.
> > 
> > Not any more.  It now usually means "privately owned database," which is
> > very different from the original meaning.  Mail, web sites, and torrents
> > are about the only true cloud services.  The technology exists for there
> > to be many more but most ISPs severely restrict usage by customers -
> > slow speeds, no static IP addresses, no home servers allowed, blocked
> > ports, and bandwidth caps.
> 
> I don't recall this "privately owned database" usage. Do you have any 
> examples?

How about the totally obvious answer like Apple's "cloud" platform.  It 
has has proprietary access, it can not be expanded except by Apple, and 
has suffered mass outages due to single operational mistakes.


Compare that to DNS, mail, web pages, web services, torrents/file 
servers, message boards, etc. that can be accessed by URL and expanded 
upon by anyone.  Many hosted data stores can be considered cloud 
services because clients can perform their own replication and sharding 
across unlimited systems using common public APIs.

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#69564

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-02-07 14:09 +0000
Message-ID<cjmkl7F1lhgU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#69554
On 2015-02-07, Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
> On 2015-02-07 02:00:05 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>> On 2015-02-07, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>> In article <cjl1q4FkbajU1@mid.individual.net>,
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2015-02-06, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 13:49:31 -0500
>>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> ... because I used a spell checker.  When I first misspelled it,
>>>>>> Thunderbird undersquiggled it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I misread then, maybe I was projecting my fear of spelling it wrong.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nothing can be worse.  (I may regret saying that).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe you won't have to regret it but just live to see it disproved
>>>>> wait that the same?
>>>>> 
>>>>> the cloud's too, well, cloudy for me, I like sunshine
>>>> 
>>>> The cloud is nothing but the internet; and it's been around for a long,
>>>> long time.
>>> 
>>> "The cloud" is not just the Internet. It's a particular way that the
>>> Internet is used, to store data used by client applications, and update
>>> and retrieve it automatically and transparently as needed.
>> 
>> People have been storing data from client applications and so on with
>> the internet long before than the term "the cloud" became popular.
>
> "The cloud" is a useful term.

It's also go strange stigmas attached for some folks who don't realize
it's just the fucking internet.

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#69555

FromElectric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid>
Date2015-02-06 20:41 -0800
Message-ID<mb458p$900$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#69550
On 6 Feb 2015 23:41:56 GMT
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> The cloud is nothing but the internet; and it's been around for a
> long, long time. 

See the name worked, right choice.

> It was obviously a mistake to call it the cloud due to some people's
> strange paranoia.

too late to change it now







  


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#69558

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2015-02-07 18:13 +1300
Message-ID<070220151813164991%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#69555
In article <mb458p$900$1@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet
<electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> On 6 Feb 2015 23:41:56 GMT
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > 
> > The cloud is nothing but the internet; and it's been around for a
> > long, long time. 
> 
> See the name worked, right choice.
> 
> > It was obviously a mistake to call it the cloud due to some people's
> > strange paranoia.
> 
> too late to change it now

Some places don't call it "cloud" (e.g. DropBox, Box, Google Drive,
Microsloth OneDrive), but many of them do still use a cloud symbol as
part of the logo.

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#69566

FromElectric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid>
Date2015-02-07 06:18 -0800
Message-ID<mb571u$avb$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#69558
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 18:13:16 +1300
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> Some places don't call it "cloud" (e.g. DropBox, Box, Google Drive,
> Microsloth OneDrive), but many of them do still use a cloud symbol as
> part of the logo.

it's fluffy and white







 

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