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Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS?

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  Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-22 17:24 +0000
    Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-22 17:35 +0000
      Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-22 17:58 +0000
        Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-22 18:07 +0000
        Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-23 08:45 +1300
          Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-01-23 00:27 +0000
            Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 03:01 +0000
              Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-01-24 03:42 +0000
                Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-24 13:47 +0000
                  Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-01-25 00:33 +0000
                    Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-25 13:42 +1300
          Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-22 18:57 -0700
        Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-01-23 16:20 +0000
          Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 16:22 +0000
            Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-01-24 21:16 +0000
              Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-24 21:28 +0000
                Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-01-25 17:00 +0000
                  Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-25 17:04 +0000
                Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-26 01:26 +0000
                  Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-26 01:53 +0000
                    Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-26 11:13 +0000
          Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-26 01:24 +0000
    Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-01-22 12:55 -0500
      Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-22 12:22 -0700
        Re: Does OSX need a Fedora-style testbed OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-23 01:06 +0000

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#69001

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
> On 2015-01-26, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
>>> On 2015-01-24, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote:
>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>> OS X underwent major transitions from 10.7 through 10.10, and it showed.
>>>>
>>>> Apple did really stupid things in 10.7 for reasons that escape me. An 
>>>> example was the decision to hide 1/3 of the information shown by Address 
>>>> Book at any given time.
>>
>>> I don't remember having (or even reading about) that issue. You're
>>> suggesting Apple did that on purpose for a reason?
>>
>>>> Thankfully 10.8 restored that. There were a ton 
>>>> of similar issues.
>>
>>> You mean bugs? Yes, 10.7 had a fair share of bugs.
>>
>> No, this was a stupid "make Contact like ios Contacts" thing. It was dumb.

> I'm not sure it had anything to do with making it more like iOS;

Well, they made it look EXACTLY like Contacts on iOS (iPad).

It's better now. I still don't like the borderless look much, bu the
functionality is mostly there.

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#68970

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> was all, like:
> sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>> 10.7 (Lion) seems to engender bad comments, I have no idea why.

> 10.7 was awful. It was Apple's Windows Vista. It was the only OS X 
> version I ever skipped, despite trying really, really hard to like and 
> use it.

It was a damn sight better than Vista, but it wasn't much of an upgrade from
10.6.8 and you gave up a lot. It's obvious Apple was planning for 10.10 from
10.6 on.A

-- 
On a scale of one to ten, it sucked.

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#68681

In article <m9rbpb$gaj$1@dont-email.me>,
 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> Reading all the controversy over Apple's release of OSX yearly, and the 
> complaints over constant new features making it into the GA, what if 
> Apple had its own Fedora-style testbed OS, where new features, kernels, 
> apps, could be put out for people who want to test the OS and want to be 
> on the bleeding edge.
> Would doing something like this lead to a more stable final release of 
> OSX?  Stuff could be tried out, tested and if passed the QA tests, roll 
> out in the next final release.

Apple does do Alpha and Beta releases of the OS. As well, application 
developers can get early releases.

But shit still happens. This is the nature of the software industry.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#68686

In article <barmar-38CD42.12553822012015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> In article <m9rbpb$gaj$1@dont-email.me>,
>  sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> 
> > Reading all the controversy over Apple's release of OSX yearly, and the 
> > complaints over constant new features making it into the GA, what if 
> > Apple had its own Fedora-style testbed OS, where new features, kernels, 
> > apps, could be put out for people who want to test the OS and want to be 
> > on the bleeding edge.
> > Would doing something like this lead to a more stable final release of 
> > OSX?  Stuff could be tried out, tested and if passed the QA tests, roll 
> > out in the next final release.
> 
> Apple does do Alpha and Beta releases of the OS. As well, application 
> developers can get early releases.

As an example, I'm running the third consumers' beta release of
10.10.2, build 14C106a.

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#68713

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> was all, like:
> In article <barmar-38CD42.12553822012015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

>> In article <m9rbpb$gaj$1@dont-email.me>,
>>  sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>> 
>> > Reading all the controversy over Apple's release of OSX yearly, and the 
>> > complaints over constant new features making it into the GA, what if 
>> > Apple had its own Fedora-style testbed OS, where new features, kernels, 
>> > apps, could be put out for people who want to test the OS and want to be 
>> > on the bleeding edge.
>> > Would doing something like this lead to a more stable final release of 
>> > OSX?  Stuff could be tried out, tested and if passed the QA tests, roll 
>> > out in the next final release.
>> 
>> Apple does do Alpha and Beta releases of the OS. As well, application 
>> developers can get early releases.

> As an example, I'm running the third consumers' beta release of
> 10.10.2, build 14C106a.

Me too. It seems finished to me, but then so did the last one. (Running
it on two machines).

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