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A page of quotes on the software quality question

Started bynmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello)
First post2015-01-22 21:43 -0700
Last post2015-01-26 14:42 +0000
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  A page of quotes on the software quality question nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-01-22 21:43 -0700
    Re: A page of quotes on the software quality question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-23 18:15 +1300
    Re: A page of quotes on the software quality question billy@MIX.COM - 2015-01-23 20:01 +0000
      Re: A page of quotes on the software quality question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-23 15:05 -0500
        Re: A page of quotes on the software quality question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 20:17 +0000
          Re: A page of quotes on the software quality question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-26 11:15 +0000
            Re: A page of quotes on the software quality question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-26 14:42 +0000

#68731 — A page of quotes on the software quality question

Fromnmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello)
Date2015-01-22 21:43 -0700
SubjectA page of quotes on the software quality question
Message-ID<1lyo5s7.h2gt15m0qbeiN%nmassello@yahoo.com>
collected by Michael Tsai: 

<http://mjtsai.com/blog/2015/01/06/apples-software-quality-continued/>

Of course, these people are all hysterics or Apple haters or short
sellers, right? 

My own attitude is best expressed by Kirk McElhearn: "I no longer want
to be the first to install an update to iOS or OS X, because I simply
don't trust that Apple will get it right."

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#68733

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2015-01-23 18:15 +1300
Message-ID<230120151815560416%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#68731
In article <1lyo5s7.h2gt15m0qbeiN%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello
<nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:

> collected by Michael Tsai: 
> 
> <http://mjtsai.com/blog/2015/01/06/apples-software-quality-continued/>
> 
> Of course, these people are all hysterics or Apple haters or short
> sellers, right? 
> 
> My own attitude is best expressed by Kirk McElhearn: "I no longer want
> to be the first to install an update to iOS or OS X, because I simply
> don't trust that Apple will get it right." 

I don't want to install Windoze because I simply don't trust Microsloth
to *EVER* get it right.  :-p

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#68789

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2015-01-23 20:01 +0000
Message-ID<m9u9ai$pqa$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#68731
Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> writes:

> collected by Michael Tsai: 
> 
> <http://mjtsai.com/blog/2015/01/06/apples-software-quality-continued/>
> 
> Of course, these people are all hysterics or Apple haters or short
> sellers, right? 

No.
 
> My own attitude is best expressed by Kirk McElhearn: "I no longer want
> to be the first to install an update to iOS or OS X, because I simply
> don't trust that Apple will get it right." 

From today's email, regarding an update of a program I use -

| Thanks for your help testing.  I am confident that this version will
| work until such time as Apple decides to break it again, which they
| seem to do with almost every OS X release.

Billy Y..
-- 
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#68790

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-01-23 15:05 -0500
Message-ID<230120151505084815%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#68789
In article <m9u9ai$pqa$1@reader2.panix.com>, <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:

> 
> From today's email, regarding an update of a program I use -
> 
> | Thanks for your help testing.  I am confident that this version will
> | work until such time as Apple decides to break it again, which they
> | seem to do with almost every OS X release.

whoever authored that app needs to learn how to write better code.

there is no reason why something should break with almost every os x
release. well written apps that use publicly documented apis do *not*
break all that often, if ever.

anyone who blames apple for their own incompetence is a clue that
perhaps an alternate career path is something to consider.

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#68791

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-01-23 20:17 +0000
Message-ID<cifoi7Fr96gU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68790
On 2015-01-23, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <m9u9ai$pqa$1@reader2.panix.com>, <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:
>
>> 
>> From today's email, regarding an update of a program I use -
>> 
>> | Thanks for your help testing.  I am confident that this version will
>> | work until such time as Apple decides to break it again, which they
>> | seem to do with almost every OS X release.
>
> whoever authored that app needs to learn how to write better code.
>
> there is no reason why something should break with almost every os x
> release. well written apps that use publicly documented apis do *not*
> break all that often, if ever.

Yep. I authored one particular Mac OS X app that is fairly popular in
the scripting community, hasn't needed any OS X specific compatibility
updates since 2007, and runs just as well today as it did then.

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JR

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#69002

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-01-26 11:15 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmcc8ga.v83.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#68791
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
> On 2015-01-23, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <m9u9ai$pqa$1@reader2.panix.com>, <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>> From today's email, regarding an update of a program I use -
>>> 
>>> | Thanks for your help testing.  I am confident that this version will
>>> | work until such time as Apple decides to break it again, which they
>>> | seem to do with almost every OS X release.
>>
>> whoever authored that app needs to learn how to write better code.
>>
>> there is no reason why something should break with almost every os x
>> release. well written apps that use publicly documented apis do *not*
>> break all that often, if ever.

> Yep. I authored one particular Mac OS X app that is fairly popular in
> the scripting community, hasn't needed any OS X specific compatibility
> updates since 2007, and runs just as well today as it did then.

Have you seen this?

<http://blog.steventroughtonsmith.com/post/109040361205/mpw-carbon-and-building-classic-mac-os-apps-in-os>

You can compile for System 1.0 through 10.10!

-- 
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#69019

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-01-26 14:42 +0000
Message-ID<cin239FntefU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#69002
On 2015-01-26, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
>> On 2015-01-23, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <m9u9ai$pqa$1@reader2.panix.com>, <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 
>>>> From today's email, regarding an update of a program I use -
>>>> 
>>>> | Thanks for your help testing.  I am confident that this version will
>>>> | work until such time as Apple decides to break it again, which they
>>>> | seem to do with almost every OS X release.
>>>
>>> whoever authored that app needs to learn how to write better code.
>>>
>>> there is no reason why something should break with almost every os x
>>> release. well written apps that use publicly documented apis do *not*
>>> break all that often, if ever.
>
>> Yep. I authored one particular Mac OS X app that is fairly popular in
>> the scripting community, hasn't needed any OS X specific compatibility
>> updates since 2007, and runs just as well today as it did then.
>
> Have you seen this?
>
><http://blog.steventroughtonsmith.com/post/109040361205/mpw-carbon-and-building-classic-mac-os-apps-in-os>
>
> You can compile for System 1.0 through 10.10!

No, I didn't know anyone had bothered to do that. That's pretty damn
slick. Thanks for passing it on! Bookmarked for future playtime. : )

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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