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| Started by | nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) |
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| First post | 2015-01-19 16:50 -0700 |
| Last post | 2015-01-23 14:16 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 220 — 21 participants |
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Gassee joins the fray nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-01-19 16:50 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-20 00:01 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-19 22:18 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-20 15:43 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-20 11:16 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-20 16:28 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2015-01-20 12:39 -0600
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-21 06:18 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-01-20 14:05 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-21 06:19 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-20 19:53 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-21 02:40 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lao-Ming Liu <laomingliu@gmail.com> - 2015-01-20 20:18 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-21 04:42 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-20 22:31 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-21 21:46 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lao-Ming Liu <laomingliu@gmail.com> - 2015-01-20 22:01 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-20 23:12 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-21 09:56 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2015-01-21 09:22 -0600
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-21 15:49 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-21 10:59 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-21 16:29 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-21 16:52 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-21 17:06 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-21 13:40 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-01-21 19:02 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-21 14:09 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-21 19:23 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-21 19:19 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-21 19:46 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-21 19:50 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-21 20:43 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-21 20:55 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-21 14:00 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-21 21:09 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-21 16:14 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-21 21:19 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-21 23:53 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-22 00:06 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-21 13:55 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-21 23:55 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-21 17:41 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-21 16:13 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-21 16:10 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-21 21:12 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-21 23:57 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-01-22 15:16 +1300
Re: Gassee joins the fray Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-22 11:59 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-23 01:04 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 03:04 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-01-22 11:59 +1300
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-21 23:17 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-01-22 20:42 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-22 22:14 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 03:52 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-22 22:14 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 14:21 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-01-21 23:12 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-24 18:42 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-24 18:40 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-25 02:53 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-21 21:36 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-22 16:55 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-22 12:14 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-22 17:24 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-22 13:25 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-22 22:05 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-22 22:06 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 14:16 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-23 13:44 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-24 18:47 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-25 02:57 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-24 21:09 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-25 09:30 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-25 16:19 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-25 09:22 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-26 11:09 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-26 14:53 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-22 12:14 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-22 22:03 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-23 00:00 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-23 09:52 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 15:13 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-01-23 15:40 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-23 11:28 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-23 13:44 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-23 11:44 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-23 14:32 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-23 14:44 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-23 14:48 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-23 14:50 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 23:15 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-23 18:22 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-24 10:56 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-24 11:05 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-24 16:22 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-24 21:51 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-25 12:20 +1300
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-25 02:38 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-24 15:32 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 23:14 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-23 18:22 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-26 10:29 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-24 15:35 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-24 12:38 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-26 10:33 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-23 14:30 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-23 14:42 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-23 14:54 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-23 15:00 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-24 08:50 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-24 17:07 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-24 16:35 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-25 00:03 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-25 09:19 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 23:13 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-26 11:01 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-01-26 21:34 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 23:07 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-23 18:22 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 14:12 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-23 09:49 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 15:08 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-23 10:49 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 16:18 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-23 11:30 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 16:55 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-23 12:03 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 17:07 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-23 13:44 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-23 11:41 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-23 14:39 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-23 14:45 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-24 16:19 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-24 21:38 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-24 18:45 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-25 03:04 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-23 11:17 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-23 13:44 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 18:46 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-01-24 10:46 +1300
Re: Gassee joins the fray Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-24 10:54 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-24 13:55 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-24 10:42 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-24 16:14 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-25 03:54 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-23 17:34 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 17:49 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-23 18:05 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 18:37 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-23 11:41 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 18:43 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-23 14:13 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-23 12:23 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 19:28 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-26 10:58 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-26 10:58 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-26 14:46 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-23 20:46 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-24 10:17 +1300
Re: Gassee joins the fray Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-23 14:05 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 19:08 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-23 11:20 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-23 14:40 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-23 18:23 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-23 18:21 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-23 20:50 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-24 10:15 +1300
Re: Gassee joins the fray sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-23 23:19 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-24 13:16 +1300
Re: Gassee joins the fray Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-24 08:48 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-01-24 09:20 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-01-23 15:38 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-23 14:36 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-23 14:45 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 23:17 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-24 17:14 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-24 22:37 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-25 12:24 +1300
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-26 10:40 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-26 13:39 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-23 18:22 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-23 18:22 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-23 18:21 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-23 22:05 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-23 20:46 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-23 19:55 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-23 21:05 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-23 20:57 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-23 21:01 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-24 00:12 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-24 18:31 +1300
Re: Gassee joins the fray Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-23 23:17 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-24 08:52 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-24 18:40 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-25 03:03 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-25 09:27 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-26 01:50 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-25 22:25 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-25 14:56 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-25 20:19 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-01-26 21:55 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-23 20:07 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-23 23:57 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-26 10:45 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-01-26 21:52 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-26 10:37 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-01-26 21:49 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-23 11:26 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-24 10:20 +1300
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-23 14:43 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-23 14:48 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-26 10:56 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-23 13:44 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-01-22 20:37 -0500
Re: Gassee joins the fray nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-01-22 20:55 -0700
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 03:59 +0000
Re: Gassee joins the fray Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-22 22:09 -0800
Re: Gassee joins the fray Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-23 14:16 +0000
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-24 10:17 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <240120151017082757%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #68768 |
In article <m9u2gh$le4$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 17:49:16 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: > > > > I hate to break it to you, but Dunkin Donuts serves the same crap coffee > > bean blends as everyone else. People who truly appreciate a good cup of > > coffee or espresso brew it themselves at home with quality beans that > > are not only cheaper, but also are fresh roasted and not prepackaged > > sitting on a shelf for who knows how long. Tons of "real people" > > wouldn't know a truly good cup of coffee from shit, and the lines in > > front of Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts are proof of that.. > > Here in Austin, there are many "gourmet" coffee roasters who charge up to > $20 for a 12oz bag of beans. My wife and I tend to like the Dunkin > beans, we grind them ourselves. We are not "hipsters", just retired > farts who drink too much coffee at home, requiring more moderately priced > coffee. I have to say, Dunkin Donuts coffee is much better than Chock > full O' Nuts! There all the same "beans" ... just squirrel poo collected from the local park. ;-)
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-23 14:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54c29b86$0$24477$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #68767 |
In article <ciffsrFlcqdU14@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > I hate to break it to you, but Dunkin Donuts serves the same crap coffee > bean blends as everyone else. People who truly appreciate a good cup of > coffee or espresso brew it themselves at home with quality beans that > are not only cheaper, but also are fresh roasted and not prepackaged > sitting on a shelf for who knows how long. Tons of "real people" > wouldn't know a truly good cup of coffee from shit, and the lines in > front of Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts are proof of that.. I brew my coffee in a locally-sourced earthenware pot from beans grown by a Druid lesbian commune in Guatemala ... -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-23 19:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cifki3Fq9ctU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #68782 |
On 2015-01-23, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <ciffsrFlcqdU14@mid.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> I hate to break it to you, but Dunkin Donuts serves the same crap coffee >> bean blends as everyone else. People who truly appreciate a good cup of >> coffee or espresso brew it themselves at home with quality beans that >> are not only cheaper, but also are fresh roasted and not prepackaged >> sitting on a shelf for who knows how long. Tons of "real people" >> wouldn't know a truly good cup of coffee from shit, and the lines in >> front of Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts are proof of that.. > > I brew my coffee in a locally-sourced earthenware pot from beans grown > by a Druid lesbian commune in Guatemala ... Like I said, lots of people don't know good coffee from shit. : ) -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-01-23 11:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <230120151120155211%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #68766 |
In article <m9u0ma$ldu$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > Real people get their coffee from Dunkin Donuts. No, they get their coffee here: <http://www.heartwingcoffee.com>
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| From | Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-23 14:40 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <m9uikq$8k1$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68770 |
On 2015-01-23 18:20:15 +0000, Michelle Steiner said: > In article <m9u0ma$ldu$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 > <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > >> Real people get their coffee from Dunkin Donuts. > > No, they get their coffee here: > <http://www.heartwingcoffee.com> Real people make their own coffee.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-01-23 18:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <230120151823510280%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #68806 |
In article <m9uikq$8k1$2@dont-email.me>, Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote: > On 2015-01-23 18:20:15 +0000, Michelle Steiner said: > > > In article <m9u0ma$ldu$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 > > <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > > > >> Real people get their coffee from Dunkin Donuts. > > > > No, they get their coffee here: > > <http://www.heartwingcoffee.com> > > Real people make their own coffee. By "make", do you mean "grow"?
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| From | Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-23 18:21 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <m9uviu$6ud$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68833 |
On 2015-01-24 01:23:51 +0000, Michelle Steiner said: > In article <m9uikq$8k1$2@dont-email.me>, Oregonian Haruspex > <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On 2015-01-23 18:20:15 +0000, Michelle Steiner said: >> >>> In article <m9u0ma$ldu$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 >>> <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Real people get their coffee from Dunkin Donuts. >>> >>> No, they get their coffee here: >>> <http://www.heartwingcoffee.com> >> >> Real people make their own coffee. > > By "make", do you mean "grow"? No I just mean, fire up your coffee maker and make your own coffee, with beans that you have inspected yourself and perhaps even roasted yourself. It's not exactly difficult you know.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-01-23 20:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <230120152050308236%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #68836 |
In article <m9uviu$6ud$2@dont-email.me>, Oregonian Haruspex
<bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 2015-01-24 01:23:51 +0000, Michelle Steiner said:
>
> > In article <m9uikq$8k1$2@dont-email.me>, Oregonian Haruspex
> > <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2015-01-23 18:20:15 +0000, Michelle Steiner said:
> >>
> >>> In article <m9u0ma$ldu$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
> >>> <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Real people get their coffee from Dunkin Donuts.
> >>>
> >>> No, they get their coffee here:
> >>> <http://www.heartwingcoffee.com>
> >>
> >> Real people make their own coffee.
> >
> > By "make", do you mean "grow"?
>
> No I just mean, fire up your coffee maker and make your own coffee,
> with beans that you have inspected yourself and perhaps even roasted
> yourself.
Oh, you mean "brew".
I gather that you didn't bother to read the website at the link I
provided:
Who and what is Heartwing Roasters?
Thank you for visiting our site! This is where our business
launched in May, 2013 and where we continue to grow by roasting and
selling the freshest, best-tasting coffees you can find.
Heartwing Roasters specializes in fresh-roasting-to-order coffee
beans, then shipping them as quickly as possible so you can enjoy
better coffee. This means you order the beans you want, and let us know
how you want them roasted; light, medium, or dark. In-stock beans will
then be roasted and sent to you using two-day mail. You want fresher
coffee? I'm afraid you'll have to roast it yourself.
Fresh-roasted coffee takes a day or two to fully, "ripen." It is
then uniquely fresh in flavor and aroma for about a week. After that,
it will still taste fine, but will have lost the magic that is truly
fresh-roasted coffee. Once you receive your beans, you can put them in
the freezer for up to six months and still enjoy amazingly fresh
coffee.
My name is Luccia Rogers. I started roasting coffee at home for
myself in 2007 because I read it was the best way to get coffee one
really wanted, roasted just right, and fresher than anything in the
stores. I'm also a bit of a perfectionist and obsessive with things I
love and believe me, I love coffee. Heartwing Roasters was started
because those around me reminded me that one should always pursue one's
passions. Thanks again for visiting our site and thank you for buying
our fresh-roasted-to-order coffee beans.
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-24 10:15 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <240120151015497979%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #68766 |
In article <m9u0ma$ldu$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 15:08:52 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: > > On 2015-01-23, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > >> On 15-01-23 01:03, Oregonian Haruspex wrote: > >> > >>> I assure you this is representative of the whole system. The majority > >>> of daemons are undocumented, and the ones that are are usually older > >>> (Steve era). > >> > >> Apple is targetting the hipster Starbucks crowd, not the IT geeks who > >> know Unix. Another example of the Unix side no longer being pushed, > >> Apple no longer includes X windows with OS-X. > > > > I don't even know what a hipster is. > > Cosmo Kramer would be the example of a "hipster doofus"! Nope, he's an example of a braindead moron thanks to too much booze and drugs. > > People who get their coffee from Starbucks are suckers who don't know > > what good coffee is. > > Real people get their coffee from Dunkin Donuts. Real people don't even drink any disgusting muck called "coffee". :-)
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| From | sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2015-01-23 23:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m9ukuq$90e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68793 |
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:15:49 +1300, Your Name wrote: > In article <m9u0ma$ldu$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> > wrote: >> On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 15:08:52 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: >> > On 2015-01-23, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >> >> On 15-01-23 01:03, Oregonian Haruspex wrote: >> >> >> >>> I assure you this is representative of the whole system. The >> >>> majority of daemons are undocumented, and the ones that are are >> >>> usually older (Steve era). >> >> >> >> Apple is targetting the hipster Starbucks crowd, not the IT geeks >> >> who know Unix. Another example of the Unix side no longer being >> >> pushed, Apple no longer includes X windows with OS-X. >> > >> > I don't even know what a hipster is. >> >> Cosmo Kramer would be the example of a "hipster doofus"! > > Nope, he's an example of a braindead moron thanks to too much booze and > drugs. You must not have seen the episode where Elaine calls him a "hipster doofus". Kramer did not really drink alcohol, except in the episode where he is singing the ad for the scotch.
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-24 13:16 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <240120151316168094%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #68822 |
In article <m9ukuq$90e$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:15:49 +1300, Your Name wrote: > > > In article <m9u0ma$ldu$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> > > wrote: > >> On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 15:08:52 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: > >> > On 2015-01-23, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > >> >> On 15-01-23 01:03, Oregonian Haruspex wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> I assure you this is representative of the whole system. The > >> >>> majority of daemons are undocumented, and the ones that are are > >> >>> usually older (Steve era). > >> >> > >> >> Apple is targetting the hipster Starbucks crowd, not the IT geeks > >> >> who know Unix. Another example of the Unix side no longer being > >> >> pushed, Apple no longer includes X windows with OS-X. > >> > > >> > I don't even know what a hipster is. > >> > >> Cosmo Kramer would be the example of a "hipster doofus"! > > > > Nope, he's an example of a braindead moron thanks to too much booze and > > drugs. > > You must not have seen the episode where Elaine calls him a "hipster > doofus". Kramer did not really drink alcohol, except in the episode > where he is singing the ad for the scotch. That's because he had alread killed all his braincells long before the show's timeline started.
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-24 08:48 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54c3a2bf$0$19905$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #68822 |
In article <m9ukuq$90e$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:15:49 +1300, Your Name wrote: > > > In article <m9u0ma$ldu$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> > > wrote: > >> On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 15:08:52 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: > >> > On 2015-01-23, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > >> >> On 15-01-23 01:03, Oregonian Haruspex wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> I assure you this is representative of the whole system. The > >> >>> majority of daemons are undocumented, and the ones that are are > >> >>> usually older (Steve era). > >> >> > >> >> Apple is targetting the hipster Starbucks crowd, not the IT geeks > >> >> who know Unix. Another example of the Unix side no longer being > >> >> pushed, Apple no longer includes X windows with OS-X. > >> > > >> > I don't even know what a hipster is. > >> > >> Cosmo Kramer would be the example of a "hipster doofus"! > > > > Nope, he's an example of a braindead moron thanks to too much booze and > > drugs. > > > You must not have seen the episode where Elaine calls him a "hipster > doofus". Kramer did not really drink alcohol, except in the episode > where he is singing the ad for the scotch. Yeah, don't confuse Kramer with The Reverend Jim Ignatowski. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2015-01-24 09:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <240120150920517332%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #68766 |
In article <m9u0ma$ldu$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: >On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 15:08:52 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: > >> On 2015-01-23, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >>> On 15-01-23 01:03, Oregonian Haruspex wrote: >>> >>>> I assure you this is representative of the whole system. The majority >>>> of daemons are undocumented, and the ones that are are usually older >>>> (Steve era). >>> >>> Apple is targetting the hipster Starbucks crowd, not the IT geeks who >>> know Unix. Another example of the Unix side no longer being pushed, >>> Apple no longer includes X windows with OS-X. >> >> I don't even know what a hipster is. > >Cosmo Kramer would be the example of a "hipster doofus"! Who's he? And is that even a real name? > People who get their coffee from >> Starbucks are suckers who don't know what good coffee is. > >Real people get their coffee from Dunkin Donuts. Real people make their own fucking coffee. -- "A committee is a cul-de-sac down which ideas are lured and then quietly strangled." - Sir Barnett Cocks (1907-1989)
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2015-01-23 15:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <230120151538353147%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #68749 |
In article <54c25f87$0$1156$b1db1813$7968482@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >On 15-01-23 01:03, Oregonian Haruspex wrote: > >> I assure you this is representative of the whole system. The majority >> of daemons are undocumented, and the ones that are are usually older >> (Steve era). > >Apple is targetting the hipster Starbucks crowd, not the IT geeks who >know Unix. Another example of the Unix side no longer being pushed, >Apple no longer includes X windows with OS-X. Good thing too. -- HAL 9000: Dave. Put down those Windows disks. Dave. DAVE!
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| From | Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-23 14:36 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <m9uict$83v$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68753 |
On 2015-01-23 15:38:35 +0000, Tim Streater said: > In article <54c25f87$0$1156$b1db1813$7968482@news.astraweb.com>, JF > Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > >> On 15-01-23 01:03, Oregonian Haruspex wrote: >> >>> I assure you this is representative of the whole system. The majority >>> of daemons are undocumented, and the ones that are are usually older >>> (Steve era). >> >> Apple is targetting the hipster Starbucks crowd, not the IT geeks who >> know Unix. Another example of the Unix side no longer being pushed, >> Apple no longer includes X windows with OS-X. > > Good thing too. It was the Unix geek that bought an OS X machine before anybody else did. It was a Unix geek that wrote the programs, it was a Unix geek that got hired at Apple to improve the system, it was a Unix geek that got his whole family onto OS X, and it will be a Unix geek who undoes Apple's hopes of growing its desktop market share, if Apple doesn't get its shit together. Apple didn't have to put a user-accessible Unix into OS X (or any Unix at all). This was a deliberate decision by Steve to court the computer geeks out there, because they - not the Starbucks hipsters - are the ones who initiate the long-term trends in the computer world.
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2015-01-23 14:45 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <m9uiu1$uiq$1@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #68804 |
On 2015-01-23 22:36:44 +0000, Oregonian Haruspex said: > On 2015-01-23 15:38:35 +0000, Tim Streater said: > >> In article <54c25f87$0$1156$b1db1813$7968482@news.astraweb.com>, JF >> Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >> >>> On 15-01-23 01:03, Oregonian Haruspex wrote: >>> >>>> I assure you this is representative of the whole system. The majority >>>> of daemons are undocumented, and the ones that are are usually older >>>> (Steve era). >>> >>> Apple is targetting the hipster Starbucks crowd, not the IT geeks who >>> know Unix. Another example of the Unix side no longer being pushed, >>> Apple no longer includes X windows with OS-X. >> >> Good thing too. > > It was the Unix geek that bought an OS X machine before anybody else did. No, it wasn't. > It was a Unix geek that wrote the programs, Nope. > it was a Unix geek that got hired at Apple to improve the system, Sometimes. > it was a Unix geek that got his whole family onto OS X, Nope. > and it will be a Unix geek who undoes Apple's hopes of growing its > desktop market share, if Apple doesn't get its shit together. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL > > Apple didn't have to put a user-accessible Unix into OS X (or any Unix at all). As a side-effect of it being a part of NeXT's OS, yes: they did. > This was a deliberate decision by Steve to court the computer geeks > out there, because they - not the Starbucks hipsters - are the ones who > initiate the long-term trends in the computer world. Cite?
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-23 23:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cig34gFtvaiU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #68804 |
On 2015-01-23, Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote: > > It was the Unix geek that bought an OS X machine before anybody else > did. You know no such thing. > It was a Unix geek that wrote the programs, it was a Unix geek > that got hired at Apple to improve the system, it was a Unix geek that > got his whole family onto OS X, and it will be a Unix geek who undoes > Apple's hopes of growing its desktop market share, if Apple doesn't get > its shit together. More bullshit from the bullshitter. > Apple didn't have to put a user-accessible Unix into OS X (or any Unix > at all). This was a deliberate decision by Steve to court the computer > geeks out there, because they - not the Starbucks hipsters - are the > ones who initiate the long-term trends in the computer world. Wrong. Apple's purchase of NeXT had little to do with the fact that it was Unix, and had more to do with the fact that Apple saw a way to deliver the Mac experience with that operating system under the hood. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-01-24 17:14 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54c41947$0$1182$b1db1813$7968482@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #68821 |
On 15-01-23 18:17, Jolly Roger wrote: > Wrong. Apple's purchase of NeXT had little to do with the fact that it > was Unix, and had more to do with the fact that Apple saw a way to > deliver the Mac experience with that operating system under the hood. Apple had failed to develop its own real OS and was faltering, with Windows NT soon to go to desktops with real pre-emptive multitasking. Apple had also had failed management incapable of making the decisions that would lead to Apple having its real OS. One solution was a package: Get Steve Jobs back along with rights to an OS that can be used to replace MacOS. I suspect the two cane together as a package. But getting a Unix core wasn't a compromise, it was an advantage since Apple could pursue not only the Mac Installed base but also the Next and other Unix installed bases.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-24 22:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ciil5iFjgllU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #68894 |
On 2015-01-24, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 15-01-23 18:17, Jolly Roger wrote: > >>> Apple didn't have to put a user-accessible Unix into OS X (or any >>> Unix at all). This was a deliberate decision by Steve to court the >>> computer geeks out there, because they - not the Starbucks hipsters >>> - are the ones who initiate the long-term trends in the computer >>> world. >> >> Apple's purchase of NeXT had little to do with the fact that it >> was Unix, and had more to do with the fact that Apple saw a way to >> deliver the Mac experience with that operating system under the hood. > > Apple had failed to develop its own real OS and was faltering, with > Windows NT soon to go to desktops with real pre-emptive multitasking. > > Apple had also had failed management incapable of making the decisions > that would lead to Apple having its real OS. > > One solution was a package: Get Steve Jobs back along with rights to an > OS that can be used to replace MacOS. I suspect the two cane together as > a package. Of course Steve came with NeXT, but that was after Apple considered other options, including Be OS, Windows NT, Solaris, and Pink OS. > But getting a Unix core wasn't a compromise, Never said it was a compromise - I said the decision had more to do with the fact that Apple saw a way to deliver the Mac experience with the NeXT operating system under the hood. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-25 12:24 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <250120151224062180%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #68894 |
In article <54c41947$0$1182$b1db1813$7968482@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 15-01-23 18:17, Jolly Roger wrote: > > > > Wrong. Apple's purchase of NeXT had little to do with the fact that it > > was Unix, and had more to do with the fact that Apple saw a way to > > deliver the Mac experience with that operating system under the hood. > > Apple had failed to develop its own real OS and was faltering, Apple had the only "real OS" there was, and had had it for almost two decades. > with Windows NT soon to go to desktops with real pre-emptive multitasking. Almost nobody cares about the buzzword "pre-emptive multitasking". > Apple had also had failed management incapable of making the decisions > that would lead to Apple having its real OS. > > One solution was a package: Get Steve Jobs back along with rights to an > OS that can be used to replace MacOS. I suspect the two cane together as > a package. But getting a Unix core wasn't a compromise, it was an > advantage since Apple could pursue not only the Mac Installed base but > also the Next and other Unix installed bases. Steve Jobs was a by-product. Apple had already looked at othre OSes to use, as well as continuing to developer their own (which was virtually complete when dropped).
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