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  More Apple quality problems? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-12-30 21:06 -0700
    Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-31 13:54 +0000
      Re: More Apple quality problems? billy@MIX.COM - 2014-12-31 14:23 +0000
        Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-31 14:54 +0000
          Re: More Apple quality problems? billy@MIX.COM - 2014-12-31 21:39 +0000
            Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-31 21:44 +0000
        Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-12-31 16:55 -0500
          Re: More Apple quality problems? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-12-31 17:11 -0500
            Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-31 22:13 +0000
            Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-12-31 17:45 -0500
              Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-31 23:09 +0000
                Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-12-31 18:16 -0500
                  Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-01 00:06 +0000
                    Re: More Apple quality problems? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-12-31 19:15 -0500
                      Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-01 00:23 +0000
                        Re: More Apple quality problems? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-01 14:04 +0000
                          Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-01 16:09 +0000
                      Re: More Apple quality problems? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-01-01 09:25 +0000
                        Re: More Apple quality problems? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-01 14:20 +0000
                          Re: More Apple quality problems? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-01-01 15:49 +0000
                            Re: More Apple quality problems? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-01 23:35 +0000
                              Re: More Apple quality problems? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-01-02 09:30 +0000
                                Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-02 06:24 -0500
                                Re: More Apple quality problems? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-03 03:59 +0000
                    Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-01 01:13 -0500
                      Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-01 16:05 +0000
                        Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-01 18:01 -0500
                          Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-01 23:31 +0000
                            Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-01 18:51 -0500
                              Re: More Apple quality problems? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-02 13:57 +1300
                      Re: More Apple quality problems? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-02 09:38 +1300
                Re: More Apple quality problems? billy@MIX.COM - 2015-01-01 03:20 +0000
                  Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-01 04:26 +0000
                Re: More Apple quality problems? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-01 14:01 +0000
                  Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-01 16:06 +0000
              Re: More Apple quality problems? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-12-31 18:24 -0500
              Re: More Apple quality problems? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-01-01 15:14 -0700
          Re: More Apple quality problems? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-12-31 14:37 -0800
            Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-12-31 17:48 -0500
              Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-31 23:08 +0000
    Re: More Apple quality problems? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-02 17:48 -0800
    Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-17 20:21 -0500
      Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-18 01:27 +0000
        Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-18 10:49 -0500
          Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-18 16:16 +0000
            Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-18 12:16 -0500
              Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-18 17:23 +0000
              Re: More Apple quality problems? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-18 18:19 +0000
                Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-18 15:33 -0500
                  Re: More Apple quality problems? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-18 20:50 +0000
                    Re: More Apple quality problems? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-18 23:15 +0000
                      Re: More Apple quality problems? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-01-18 23:33 +0000
                        Re: More Apple quality problems? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-01-18 19:59 -0800
                          Re: More Apple quality problems? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-19 19:24 +0000
                        Re: More Apple quality problems? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-19 19:23 +0000
                      Re: More Apple quality problems? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-18 19:03 -0500
                        Re: More Apple quality problems? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-19 19:21 +0000
                          Re: More Apple quality problems? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-19 14:37 -0500
                            Re: More Apple quality problems? unfrostedpoptart <david@therogoffs.com> - 2015-01-19 12:05 -0800
                              Re: More Apple quality problems? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-19 15:11 -0500
                      Re: More Apple quality problems? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-19 11:04 -0500
                        Re: More Apple quality problems? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-19 19:19 +0000
                        Re: More Apple quality problems? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-20 09:19 +1300
                  Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-18 23:23 +0000
                  Re: More Apple quality problems? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-18 20:56 -0700
                    Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-19 09:28 -0500
                  Re: More Apple quality problems? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-21 21:20 -0800
                    Re: More Apple quality problems? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-22 00:52 -0500

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#68108

On 2014-12-31 04:06:30 +0000, Neill Massello said:

> Graphics driver (and perhaps cooling) problems with the new Mac Pro:
> 
> <http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/12/30/apples-latest-mac-pro-continues-to-cause-problems-for-professional-users> 
> 

Maybe it's a GPU heat sink issue, which plagued an earlier generation 
of Mac Pro owners as well as several Apple laptops.

You'd think that they would get these things to at least last until the 
Applecare expires these days.

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#68495

More bad press for Apple:


Editorials
Apple’s Frequent Update Experiment Has Failed – It’s Time for Another
Snow Leopard

> http://www.tekrevue.com/yosemite-bugs-time-for-another-snow-leopard/?utm_content=bufferd9569&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

While some of it may be exagerated, it brings up a recurring theme: time
for apple to stop with yearly releases and focus on getting stuff to work.

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#68498

On 2015-01-18, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> More bad press for Apple:
>
>
> Editorials
> Apple’s Frequent Update Experiment Has Failed – It’s Time for Another
> Snow Leopard
>
>> http://www.tekrevue.com/yosemite-bugs-time-for-another-snow-leopard/?utm_content=bufferd9569&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
>
> While some of it may be exagerated, it brings up a recurring theme: time
> for apple to stop with yearly releases and focus on getting stuff to work.

In your opinion. I trust Apple to have a better handle on the situation
than you or any of your sudden magical Apple internet "experts".

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#68506

On 15-01-17 20:27, Jolly Roger wrote:

> In your opinion. I trust Apple to have a better handle on the situation
> than you or any of your sudden magical Apple internet "experts".


So you are of the opinion that Apple can continue with agressive yearly
OS-X releases and maintain software reliability to what it was at Snow
Leopard ?

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#68509

On 2015-01-18, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 15-01-17 20:27, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> In your opinion. I trust Apple to have a better handle on the situation
>> than you or any of your sudden magical Apple internet "experts".
>
> So you are of the opinion that Apple can continue with agressive yearly
> OS-X releases and maintain software reliability to what it was at Snow
> Leopard ?

I am of the opinion Apple knows better than you.

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#68511

On 15-01-18 11:16, Jolly Roger wrote:

> 
> I am of the opinion Apple knows better than you.
> 

So you have no opinion on whereher the marketing department at Apple
might be imposing unrealistic demands onto the software engineering dept ?

When you consider what happened to Forstall, it would not surprise me to
find out that Federighi (sp?) does not want to stand up against Shiller
and friends to say "no" to all their demands. But the end result in
inferior product despite all the new features.

Remember that Apple is able to charge a premium because of its image of
high quality products. Those bugs and especially media reports of said
bugs erode that ability to charge a premium.

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#68512

On 2015-01-18, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 15-01-18 11:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> I am of the opinion Apple knows better than you.
>
> So you have no opinion on whereher the marketing department at Apple
> might be imposing unrealistic demands onto the software engineering dept ?

I am of the opinion your outsider perspective of ignorance doesn't allow
you to have a realistic opinion on the internal functions of various
Apple departments. Again, my opinion is Apple knows better than you.

> When you consider what happened to Forstall, it would not surprise me to
> find out that Federighi (sp?) does not want to stand up against Shiller
> and friends to say "no" to all their demands. But the end result in
> inferior product despite all the new features.

Pure conjecture based mostly on ignorance. The fact is you have no idea
what the conditions are inside of Apple. You're blowing hot air.

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#68513

Okay, so one time? In band camp? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> was all, like:
> On 15-01-18 11:16, Jolly Roger wrote:

>> 
>> I am of the opinion Apple knows better than you.
>> 

> So you have no opinion on whereher the marketing department at Apple
> might be imposing unrealistic demands onto the software engineering dept ?

People who say shit like this have absolutely no knowledge or
understanding of Apple.

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#68515

On 15-01-18 13:19, Lewis wrote:

> People who say shit like this have absolutely no knowledge or
> understanding of Apple.

Perhaps then, you should take the time to respond/write to those media
outlets who publish those articles that say that software quality at
Apple has gone down, in part due to the push to deliver so much each year.


Insulting me does nothing. But writing to the media outlets to inform
them that they have no knowledge or understanding of Apple might do
something ?

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#68516

Okay, so one time? In band camp? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> was all, like:
> On 15-01-18 13:19, Lewis wrote:

>> People who say shit like this have absolutely no knowledge or
>> understanding of Apple.

> Perhaps then, you should take the time to respond/write to those media
> outlets who publish those articles that say that software quality at
> Apple has gone down, in part due to the push to deliver so much each year.

Why would I do that? The shitbags int he media have been writing
anti-Apple crap since at least 1990. It's never had much to do with
reality.

> Insulting me does nothing. But writing to the media outlets to inform
> them that they have no knowledge or understanding of Apple might do
> something ?

They already know they have no knowledge or understanding of Apple.
They are just writing headlines to get links.

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#68520

On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 20:50:39 +0000, Lewis wrote:

> Okay, so one time? In band camp? JF Mezei
> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> was all, like:
>> On 15-01-18 13:19, Lewis wrote:
> 
>>> People who say shit like this have absolutely no knowledge or
>>> understanding of Apple.
> 
>> Perhaps then, you should take the time to respond/write to those media
>> outlets who publish those articles that say that software quality at
>> Apple has gone down, in part due to the push to deliver so much each
>> year.
> 
> Why would I do that? The shitbags int he media have been writing
> anti-Apple crap since at least 1990. It's never had much to do with
> reality.

The damned media were doing that job on OS/2 forever.  The media were 
responsible for killing that great operating system.

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#68524

In article <m9heq6$abg$2@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
<sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 20:50:39 +0000, Lewis wrote:
>
>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? JF Mezei
>> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> was all, like:
>>> On 15-01-18 13:19, Lewis wrote:
>> 
>>>> People who say shit like this have absolutely no knowledge or
>>>> understanding of Apple.
>> 
>>> Perhaps then, you should take the time to respond/write to those media
>>> outlets who publish those articles that say that software quality at
>>> Apple has gone down, in part due to the push to deliver so much each
>>> year.
>> 
>> Why would I do that? The shitbags int he media have been writing
>> anti-Apple crap since at least 1990. It's never had much to do with
>> reality.
>
>The damned media were doing that job on OS/2 forever.  The media were 
>responsible for killing that great operating system.

More likely them falling out with MicroSoft wouldn't you say, and
having no or few applications? Not that I actually know much about it.

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a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web,
when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another
computer, another word processor, or another network. -- Tim Berners-Lee

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#68527

On 2015-01-18 23:33:05 +0000, Tim Streater said:

> In article <m9heq6$abg$2@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
> <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 20:50:39 +0000, Lewis wrote:
>> 
>>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? JF Mezei
>>> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> was all, like:
>>>> On 15-01-18 13:19, Lewis wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> People who say shit like this have absolutely no knowledge or
>>>>> understanding of Apple.
>>> 
>>>> Perhaps then, you should take the time to respond/write to those media
>>>> outlets who publish those articles that say that software quality at
>>>> Apple has gone down, in part due to the push to deliver so much each
>>>> year.
>>> 
>>> Why would I do that? The shitbags int he media have been writing
>>> anti-Apple crap since at least 1990. It's never had much to do with
>>> reality.
>> 
>> The damned media were doing that job on OS/2 forever.  The media were 
>> responsible for killing that great operating system.
> 
> More likely them falling out with MicroSoft wouldn't you say, and
> having no or few applications? Not that I actually know much about it.

If it's not the media's fault, it would have to be Obama's fault.

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#68544

On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 19:59:37 -0800, gtr wrote:


>>> The damned media were doing that job on OS/2 forever.  The media were
>>> responsible for killing that great operating system.
>> 
>> More likely them falling out with MicroSoft wouldn't you say, and
>> having no or few applications? Not that I actually know much about it.
> 
> If it's not the media's fault, it would have to be Obama's fault.

I doubt Obama would even know about OS/2.

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#68543

On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 23:33:05 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:

> In article <m9heq6$abg$2@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net>
> wrote:
> 
>>On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 20:50:39 +0000, Lewis wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? JF Mezei
>>> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> was all, like:
>>>> On 15-01-18 13:19, Lewis wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> People who say shit like this have absolutely no knowledge or
>>>>> understanding of Apple.
>>> 
>>>> Perhaps then, you should take the time to respond/write to those
>>>> media outlets who publish those articles that say that software
>>>> quality at Apple has gone down, in part due to the push to deliver so
>>>> much each year.
>>> 
>>> Why would I do that? The shitbags int he media have been writing
>>> anti-Apple crap since at least 1990. It's never had much to do with
>>> reality.
>>
>>The damned media were doing that job on OS/2 forever.  The media were
>>responsible for killing that great operating system.
> 
> More likely them falling out with MicroSoft wouldn't you say, and having
> no or few applications? Not that I actually know much about it.

I used OS/2 from 1994 to 2008.  There were always plenty of programs for 
business/office applications.  There were plenty of Internet applications 
also.  The lack of "games" and the ability to play games was what was a 
major problem.  However, DOS games would play very well on OS/2.

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#68525

In article <m9heq6$abg$2@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
<sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> The damned media were doing that job on OS/2 forever.  The media were 
> responsible for killing that great operating system.

no they weren't.

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#68542

On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 19:03:20 -0500, nospam wrote:

> In article <m9heq6$abg$2@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> The damned media were doing that job on OS/2 forever.  The media were
>> responsible for killing that great operating system.
> 
> no they weren't.

Having used OS/2 Warp from 1994 to 2008, they were very influential in 
killing it on the desktop.  I still have an IBM PS/2 9556 running OS/2 
Warp Connect. 
You always seem to "non-answer", or "non-reply" to most statements.

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#68545

In article <m9jlg9$oio$2@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
<sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> >> The damned media were doing that job on OS/2 forever.  The media were
> >> responsible for killing that great operating system.
> > 
> > no they weren't.
> 
> Having used OS/2 Warp from 1994 to 2008, they were very influential in 
> killing it on the desktop.  I still have an IBM PS/2 9556 running OS/2 
> Warp Connect. 

the media did not kill it. microsoft did.

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#68546

On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 11:37:37 AM UTC-8, nospam wrote:
> In article <m9jlg9$oio$2@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
> <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> 
> > >> The damned media were doing that job on OS/2 forever.  The media were
> > >> responsible for killing that great operating system.
> 
> the media did not kill it. microsoft did.

Sort of.  I used it and remember the issue was that when MS went to Win32 libraries/API, IBM didn't have the license to access it in OS/2.  Only the older Win16 stuff.  So, as every new Windows program came out or migrated to 32-bit, they wouldn't run anymore under OS/2 and you were stuck with old DOS and Windows programs and what few native OS/2 programs existed.  

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#68547

In article <f86d3213-68d2-43ff-8a1b-bcc935e4adbd@googlegroups.com>,
unfrostedpoptart <david@therogoffs.com> wrote:

> > > >> The damned media were doing that job on OS/2 forever.  The media were
> > > >> responsible for killing that great operating system.
> > 
> > the media did not kill it. microsoft did.
> 
> Sort of.  I used it and remember the issue was that when MS went to Win32
> libraries/API, IBM didn't have the license to access it in OS/2.  Only the
> older Win16 stuff.  So, as every new Windows program came out or migrated to
> 32-bit, they wouldn't run anymore under OS/2 and you were stuck with old DOS
> and Windows programs and what few native OS/2 programs existed.  

microsoft made deals with the clone makers and software companies and
effectively killed the competition. that's part of why they got in
legal trouble.

the media certainly didn't do it, nor could they even if they tried,
especially back then.

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