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| Started by | henry999@eircom.net (Henry) |
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| First post | 2015-01-12 08:28 +0200 |
| Last post | 2015-01-13 11:40 +1300 |
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Hidden applications running? henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2015-01-12 08:28 +0200
Re: Hidden applications running? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-11 23:59 -0800
Re: Hidden applications running? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-12 12:15 +0000
Re: Hidden applications running? henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2015-01-12 18:51 +0200
Re: Hidden applications running? D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2015-01-12 13:42 +0000
Re: Hidden applications running? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-12 13:46 +0000
Re: Hidden applications running? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-12 13:49 +0000
Re: Hidden applications running? henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2015-01-12 18:51 +0200
Re: Hidden applications running? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-12 17:14 +0000
Re: Hidden applications running? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-12 17:15 +0000
Re: Hidden applications running? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-12 13:21 -0500
Re: Hidden applications running? henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2015-01-13 06:34 +0200
Re: Hidden applications running? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-12 20:42 -0800
Re: Hidden applications running? henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2015-01-13 11:16 +0200
Re: Hidden applications running? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-13 16:36 +0000
Re: Hidden applications running? Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-01-12 10:01 -0500
Re: Hidden applications running? Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-01-12 15:38 +0000
Re: Hidden applications running? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-12 13:18 -0500
Re: Hidden applications running? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-12 18:41 +0000
Re: Hidden applications running? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-01-13 09:46 +1300
Re: Hidden applications running? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-12 21:55 +0000
Re: Hidden applications running? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-01-13 11:40 +1300
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-12 21:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <chiu64F55hkU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #68319 |
On 2015-01-12, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> On 2015-01-12, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >> > On 15-01-12 10:38, Doc O'Leary wrote: >> > >> >> lsof | grep "No. 2" >> > >> > >> > Shouldn't a normal user have to use sudo for this command to see other >> > people/processes files which are in use ? or does lsof elevate its own >> > privs so that sudo is not necessary ? >> >> Yes, but it's doubtful that another user account has files open on the >> OP's removable drive. > > It is possible that a system process is the culprit I didn't say it was impossible. Also, Spotlight indexing processes like mdworker run under the user account of the logged in user. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2015-01-13 11:40 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <1ly6pm1.1kclrab72mkbvN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #68324 |
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2015-01-12, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > > >> On 2015-01-12, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > >> > On 15-01-12 10:38, Doc O'Leary wrote: > >> > > >> >> lsof | grep "No. 2" > >> > > >> > > >> > Shouldn't a normal user have to use sudo for this command to see other > >> > people/processes files which are in use ? or does lsof elevate its own > >> > privs so that sudo is not necessary ? > >> > >> Yes, but it's doubtful that another user account has files open on the > >> OP's removable drive. > > > > It is possible that a system process is the culprit > > I didn't say it was impossible. Also, Spotlight indexing processes like > mdworker run under the user account of the logged in user. On my system right now I have multiple instances of mdworker running, most owned by me, but one is running under the _spotlight account. There are also other md* processes running as root, though I haven't investigated which of them might be involved in indexing. (mds, mds_stores, mdflagwriter.) I happen to have an SD card mounted, which contains a bootable OS X system. lsof shows nothing for my account, but sudo lsof shows over 100 open files for the root account, including Spotlight indexes opened by mds_store, many folders opened by notifyd, one by kextd, some more by mds, and revisiond has the DocumentRevisions hierarchy open. With this much noise, if I was having trouble ejecting that drive it would be hard to spot the cause. Definitely worth using plain lsof first to rule out low hanging fruit. Mounted HFS+ volumes with no bootable system on them still have a few items open as root from mds and revisiond. A FAT32 volume just has mds owned by root with the top-level folder on the volume open (twice). -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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