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| Started by | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| First post | 2015-01-11 09:31 -0500 |
| Last post | 2015-01-13 22:13 +0000 |
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Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-11 09:31 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-11 14:51 +0000
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-11 10:05 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-11 15:32 +0000
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-11 11:53 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-11 17:01 +0000
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-11 12:19 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-11 14:06 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-11 19:30 +0000
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-11 14:49 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-01-12 10:14 +1300
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-11 21:46 +0000
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-11 23:14 +0000
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-11 18:59 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-12 01:17 +0000
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-11 19:30 +0000
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-11 10:51 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-11 16:02 +0000
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-01-11 10:01 -0800
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-11 18:03 +0000
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-11 18:19 +0000
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-11 13:42 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-11 13:42 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-11 19:28 +0000
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-01-11 13:45 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-01-12 08:12 +1300
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-11 18:50 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-01-12 10:44 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-12 14:15 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-01-13 09:28 +0100
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-13 08:49 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-01-13 14:15 +0000
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-13 16:25 +0000
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-14 08:05 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-14 08:11 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-14 14:52 +0000
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-14 19:24 -0500
Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-13 22:13 +0000
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 09:31 -0500 |
| Subject | Curious - SMS / Mac |
| Message-ID | <rLKdnUr_GuPdFC_JnZ2dnUU7-R2dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
I forgot my iPhone at work on Friday. It's still there.
But I can still do SMS via Message on my Mac.
Does that mean, since the iPhone is connected to the WiFi at work, that
messages are flowing to/from the iPhone via the internet which then does
the SMS traffic?
More specifically via iCloud?
--
"Your net worth to the world is usually
determined by what remains after your
bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
Benjamin Franklin
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 14:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <chfh09F72aeU8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #68239 |
On 2015-01-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > > I forgot my iPhone at work on Friday. It's still there. > > But I can still do SMS via Message on my Mac. > > Does that mean, since the iPhone is connected to the WiFi at work, that > messages are flowing to/from the iPhone via the internet which then does > the SMS traffic? > > More specifically via iCloud? Yes, although the timing might not be immediate. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 10:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <z7udnSrV1MzKDC_JnZ2dnUU7-YmdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #68242 |
On 2015.01.11 09:51 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-01-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>> I forgot my iPhone at work on Friday. It's still there.
>>
>> But I can still do SMS via Message on my Mac.
>>
>> Does that mean, since the iPhone is connected to the WiFi at work, that
>> messages are flowing to/from the iPhone via the internet which then does
>> the SMS traffic?
>>
>> More specifically via iCloud?
>
> Yes, although the timing might not be immediate.
Thx.
Whatever delays are added are well below human perception while
exchanging some texts. eg: this am with a friend of mine (Android)
there was no feeling of delay at all - even with short "When?" / "Today"
/ "OK" type exchanges.
Rough path:
My Mac -> Apple (Xing international border; cc: CSIS, NSA)
Apple -> my iPhone (Xing international border; cc: NSA, CSIS)
my iPhone (SMS) -> my cellco.
my cellco -> his cellco.
his cellco -> his android.
Add to that all the little bits of protocol/encryption/decryption, etc.
The seamlessness is getting almost spooky.
--
"Your net worth to the world is usually
determined by what remains after your
bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
Benjamin Franklin
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 15:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <chfjchF877tU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #68244 |
On 2015-01-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2015.01.11 09:51 , Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2015-01-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>> >>> I forgot my iPhone at work on Friday. It's still there. >>> >>> But I can still do SMS via Message on my Mac. >>> >>> Does that mean, since the iPhone is connected to the WiFi at work, that >>> messages are flowing to/from the iPhone via the internet which then does >>> the SMS traffic? >>> >>> More specifically via iCloud? >> >> Yes, although the timing might not be immediate. > > Thx. > > Whatever delays are added are well below human perception while > exchanging some texts. eg: this am with a friend of mine (Android) > there was no feeling of delay at all - even with short "When?" / "Today" > / "OK" type exchanges. > > Rough path: > My Mac -> Apple (Xing international border; cc: CSIS, NSA) > Apple -> my iPhone (Xing international border; cc: NSA, CSIS) > my iPhone (SMS) -> my cellco. > my cellco -> his cellco. > his cellco -> his android. > > Add to that all the little bits of protocol/encryption/decryption, etc. > > The seamlessness is getting almost spooky. Yep, it's quite nice to be able to pick up your phone and continue a conversation you were having on your computer (or vice versa). -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 11:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <T62dnWqdw8XgNy_JnZ2dnUU7-aOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #68246 |
On 2015.01.11 10:32 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-01-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2015.01.11 09:51 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2015-01-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I forgot my iPhone at work on Friday. It's still there.
>>>>
>>>> But I can still do SMS via Message on my Mac.
>>>>
>>>> Does that mean, since the iPhone is connected to the WiFi at work, that
>>>> messages are flowing to/from the iPhone via the internet which then does
>>>> the SMS traffic?
>>>>
>>>> More specifically via iCloud?
>>>
>>> Yes, although the timing might not be immediate.
>>
>> Thx.
>>
>> Whatever delays are added are well below human perception while
>> exchanging some texts. eg: this am with a friend of mine (Android)
>> there was no feeling of delay at all - even with short "When?" / "Today"
>> / "OK" type exchanges.
>>
>> Rough path:
>> My Mac -> Apple (Xing international border; cc: CSIS, NSA)
>> Apple -> my iPhone (Xing international border; cc: NSA, CSIS)
>> my iPhone (SMS) -> my cellco.
>> my cellco -> his cellco.
>> his cellco -> his android.
>>
>> Add to that all the little bits of protocol/encryption/decryption, etc.
>>
>> The seamlessness is getting almost spooky.
>
> Yep, it's quite nice to be able to pick up your phone and continue a
> conversation you were having on your computer (or vice versa).
Well, we had that before with the Message service - as long as the other
party was using a Mac or iOS device. Now the inclusion of SMS (as long
as you have an SMSing iPhone) is the really nice part.
Also - picking up calls via the Mac is cool too!
But - I just tried calling my iPhone (which is at the office) but I
could not pick up the call on my Mac here. So I guess it either doesn't
work via the internet (LAN only?) and/or the call was being picked up on
the MBA at work.
--
"Your net worth to the world is usually
determined by what remains after your
bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
Benjamin Franklin
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 17:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <chfojpF8r10U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #68249 |
On 2015-01-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > > Also - picking up calls via the Mac is cool too! It's neat, though I wish you could transfer in-progress calls back and forth. That would be really handy. > But - I just tried calling my iPhone (which is at the office) but I > could not pick up the call on my Mac here. So I guess it either doesn't > work via the internet (LAN only?) and/or the call was being picked up on > the MBA at work. They probably both have to be on the same net/subnet. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 12:19 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <df2dnYJfv9obLS_JnZ2dnUU7-fednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #68250 |
On 2015.01.11 12:01 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-01-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Also - picking up calls via the Mac is cool too!
>
> It's neat, though I wish you could transfer in-progress calls back and
> forth. That would be really handy.
>
>> But - I just tried calling my iPhone (which is at the office) but I
>> could not pick up the call on my Mac here. So I guess it either doesn't
>> work via the internet (LAN only?) and/or the call was being picked up on
>> the MBA at work.
>
> They probably both have to be on the same net/subnet.
Makes sense. But the other should be feasible - but could have some
messy time delay issues.
--
"Your net worth to the world is usually
determined by what remains after your
bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
Benjamin Franklin
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 14:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54b2c9bd$0$39534$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #68250 |
On 15-01-11 12:01, Jolly Roger wrote: > They probably both have to be on the same net/subnet. Phone would have to take the GSM phone call, convert it to Facetime, send it to Apple, Apple then sends it to your desktop. latency would be an issue with the long hops to the Apple servers, especially overseas if the servers at in the USA. Since voice is done in-LAN, this is why I originally though that the SMS to iMessage was also done in-LAN. But there, latency is not an issue and it can hop around the world before returning to the device right next to it.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 19:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmb5js4.1lev.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #68250 |
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like: > On 2015-01-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> >> Also - picking up calls via the Mac is cool too! > It's neat, though I wish you could transfer in-progress calls back and > forth. That would be really handy. >> But - I just tried calling my iPhone (which is at the office) but I >> could not pick up the call on my Mac here. So I guess it either doesn't >> work via the internet (LAN only?) and/or the call was being picked up on >> the MBA at work. > They probably both have to be on the same net/subnet. No, just physically close to each other. -- Han : This is not going to work. Luke: Why didn't you say so before? Han : I did say so before!
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 14:49 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54b2d3ac$0$46961$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #68266 |
On 15-01-11 14:30, Lewis wrote: >> They probably both have to be on the same net/subnet. > > No, just physically close to each other. Bluetooth ?
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2015-01-12 10:14 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <1ly4rzz.de147f1s0r8smN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #68266 |
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, > like: > > On 2015-01-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >> > >> Also - picking up calls via the Mac is cool too! > > > It's neat, though I wish you could transfer in-progress calls back and > > forth. That would be really handy. > > >> But - I just tried calling my iPhone (which is at the office) but I > >> could not pick up the call on my Mac here. So I guess it either doesn't > >> work via the internet (LAN only?) and/or the call was being picked up on > >> the MBA at work. > > > They probably both have to be on the same net/subnet. > > No, just physically close to each other. For phone calling, they have to be on the same network. The iPhone requires Wi-Fi to transfer the call to another device running iOS 8 or Yosemite. Apple doesn't clarify whether the Mac can be on Ethernet (bridged to the Wi-Fi network the iPhone is using) and I don't think I have tried, but I expect this will be fine, as it really just requires a local network connection. For some reason phone calling doesn't use the Handoff or Instant Hotspot method of establishing the connection via Bluetooth then creating a point-to-point Wi-Fi network on demand. http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT6337 One piece of evidence is that the Wi-Fi calling mechanism is supported on all iPhone models which run iOS 8, including the iPhone 4S which doesn't have Bluetooth 4.0. It also works will all Macs that run Yosemite, not just those which have Bluetooth 4.0 (and which Apple has deemed worthy to support the Continuity features which require Bluetooth). http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT6555 -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 21:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <chg9a8FeceeU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #68277 |
On 2015-01-11, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > >> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, >> like: >> > On 2015-01-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> >> >> >> Also - picking up calls via the Mac is cool too! >> >> > It's neat, though I wish you could transfer in-progress calls back and >> > forth. That would be really handy. >> >> >> But - I just tried calling my iPhone (which is at the office) but I >> >> could not pick up the call on my Mac here. So I guess it either doesn't >> >> work via the internet (LAN only?) and/or the call was being picked up on >> >> the MBA at work. >> >> > They probably both have to be on the same net/subnet. >> >> No, just physically close to each other. > > For phone calling, they have to be on the same network. The iPhone > requires Wi-Fi to transfer the call to another device running iOS 8 or > Yosemite. That's what I figured. Thanks for clarifying. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 23:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmb6104.1lev.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #68277 |
Okay, so one time? In band camp? David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> was all, like: > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, >> like: >> > On 2015-01-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> >> >> >> Also - picking up calls via the Mac is cool too! >> >> > It's neat, though I wish you could transfer in-progress calls back and >> > forth. That would be really handy. >> >> >> But - I just tried calling my iPhone (which is at the office) but I >> >> could not pick up the call on my Mac here. So I guess it either doesn't >> >> work via the internet (LAN only?) and/or the call was being picked up on >> >> the MBA at work. >> >> > They probably both have to be on the same net/subnet. >> >> No, just physically close to each other. > For phone calling, they have to be on the same network. The iPhone > requires Wi-Fi to transfer the call to another device running iOS 8 or > Yosemite. Apple doesn't clarify whether the Mac can be on Ethernet > (bridged to the Wi-Fi network the iPhone is using) and I don't think I > have tried, but I expect this will be fine, as it really just requires a > local network connection. > For some reason phone calling doesn't use the Handoff or Instant Hotspot > method of establishing the connection via Bluetooth then creating a > point-to-point Wi-Fi network on demand. Ah, thanks for posting that. I thought it *did* use the adhoc hotspot to transfer the call, and I was sure I'd done that with my phone in the past. -- 'We get that in here some nights, when someone's had a few. Cosmic speculation about whether the gods exist. Next thing, there's a bolt of lightning through the door with a note wrapped round it saying, "Yes, we do" and a pair of sandals with smoke coming out.' (Small Gods)
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 18:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <NIOdnWDtyKDFky7JnZ2dnUU7-K-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #68277 |
On 2015.01.11 16:14 , David Empson wrote:
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all,
>> like:
>>> On 2015-01-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Also - picking up calls via the Mac is cool too!
>>
>>> It's neat, though I wish you could transfer in-progress calls back and
>>> forth. That would be really handy.
>>
>>>> But - I just tried calling my iPhone (which is at the office) but I
>>>> could not pick up the call on my Mac here. So I guess it either doesn't
>>>> work via the internet (LAN only?) and/or the call was being picked up on
>>>> the MBA at work.
>>
>>> They probably both have to be on the same net/subnet.
>>
>> No, just physically close to each other.
>
> For phone calling, they have to be on the same network. The iPhone
> requires Wi-Fi to transfer the call to another device running iOS 8 or
> Yosemite. Apple doesn't clarify whether the Mac can be on Ethernet
> (bridged to the Wi-Fi network the iPhone is using) and I don't think I
> have tried, but I expect this will be fine, as it really just requires a
> local network connection.
Thanks David.
And yes: phone calls do handoff to my iMac via a wired ethernet
connection when my iPhone is at home.
--
"Your net worth to the world is usually
determined by what remains after your
bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
Benjamin Franklin
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-12 01:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <chglljFhca4U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #68289 |
On 2015-01-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2015.01.11 16:14 , David Empson wrote: >> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >> >>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, >>> like: >>>> On 2015-01-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Also - picking up calls via the Mac is cool too! >>> >>>> It's neat, though I wish you could transfer in-progress calls back and >>>> forth. That would be really handy. >>> >>>>> But - I just tried calling my iPhone (which is at the office) but I >>>>> could not pick up the call on my Mac here. So I guess it either doesn't >>>>> work via the internet (LAN only?) and/or the call was being picked up on >>>>> the MBA at work. >>> >>>> They probably both have to be on the same net/subnet. >>> >>> No, just physically close to each other. >> >> For phone calling, they have to be on the same network. The iPhone >> requires Wi-Fi to transfer the call to another device running iOS 8 or >> Yosemite. Apple doesn't clarify whether the Mac can be on Ethernet >> (bridged to the Wi-Fi network the iPhone is using) and I don't think I >> have tried, but I expect this will be fine, as it really just requires a >> local network connection. > > Thanks David. > > And yes: phone calls do handoff to my iMac via a wired ethernet > connection when my iPhone is at home. Same here. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 19:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmb5jr1.1lev.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #68249 |
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> was all, like: > But - I just tried calling my iPhone (which is at the office) but I > could not pick up the call on my Mac here. Call pickup requires proximity. -- The truth isn't easily pinned to a page. In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than soap, and much more difficult to find...
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 10:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54b29c11$0$58677$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #68244 |
On 15-01-11 10:05, Alan Browne wrote: > Rough path: > My Mac -> Apple (Xing international border; cc: CSIS, NSA) > Apple -> my iPhone (Xing international border; cc: NSA, CSIS) > my iPhone (SMS) -> my cellco. > my cellco -> his cellco. > his cellco -> his android. Is it documented that the flow goes through the Apple servers instead of the Mac connecting directly to the iPhone ? I was thinking that the Mac and iPhone would get to know about each other's IP address via Bonjour on the LAN and then exchange data directly. However, if it worked with a phone outside of the LAN, I guess Apple is involved in some way.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 16:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <chfl4tF8iruU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #68247 |
On 2015-01-11, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 15-01-11 10:05, Alan Browne wrote: > >> Rough path: >> My Mac -> Apple (Xing international border; cc: CSIS, NSA) >> Apple -> my iPhone (Xing international border; cc: NSA, CSIS) >> my iPhone (SMS) -> my cellco. >> my cellco -> his cellco. >> his cellco -> his android. > > Is it documented that the flow goes through the Apple servers instead of > the Mac connecting directly to the iPhone ? > > I was thinking that the Mac and iPhone would get to know about each > other's IP address via Bonjour on the LAN and then exchange data directly. > > However, if it worked with a phone outside of the LAN, I guess Apple is > involved in some way. It does go through Apple, and it is encrypted. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 10:01 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <w9idncXezqr9Jy_JnZ2dnUU7-UudnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #68248 |
On 1/11/2015 8:02 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> Rough path:
>>> My Mac -> Apple (Xing international border; cc: CSIS, NSA)
>>> Apple -> my iPhone (Xing international border; cc: NSA, CSIS)
>>> my iPhone (SMS) -> my cellco.
>>> my cellco -> his cellco.
>>> his cellco -> his android.
>>
>> Is it documented that the flow goes through the Apple servers instead of
>> the Mac connecting directly to the iPhone ?
>>
>> I was thinking that the Mac and iPhone would get to know about each
>> other's IP address via Bonjour on the LAN and then exchange data directly.
>>
>> However, if it worked with a phone outside of the LAN, I guess Apple is
>> involved in some way.
>
> It does go through Apple, and it is encrypted.
But does Apple have access to them even with warrants?
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-11 18:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <chfs7oFap3sU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #68254 |
On 2015-01-11, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote: > On 1/11/2015 8:02 AM, Jolly Roger wrote: > >>>> Rough path: >>>> My Mac -> Apple (Xing international border; cc: CSIS, NSA) >>>> Apple -> my iPhone (Xing international border; cc: NSA, CSIS) >>>> my iPhone (SMS) -> my cellco. >>>> my cellco -> his cellco. >>>> his cellco -> his android. >>> >>> Is it documented that the flow goes through the Apple servers instead of >>> the Mac connecting directly to the iPhone ? >>> >>> I was thinking that the Mac and iPhone would get to know about each >>> other's IP address via Bonjour on the LAN and then exchange data directly. >>> >>> However, if it worked with a phone outside of the LAN, I guess Apple is >>> involved in some way. >> >> It does go through Apple, and it is encrypted. > > But does Apple have access to them even with warrants? <http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/27/apple-explains-exactly-how-secure-imessage-really-is/> -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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